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>she accidentally lets out the Ranthars
>knows how to defend herself using her staff
>learns to fly using a simulator
>isn't able to overpower Ren at first
>fails at using the mind trick the first time
>people like her because she's kind and charming
>still gets called a Mary Sue

Sure thing, /tv/
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>>learns to fly using a simulator

Haha what? That ain't in the movie bruh.
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nice b8
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>>67912936
Read a book, faggot
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>>67912869
I like her because she's kind and charming and qt as fuck.
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>>67912971
Saying nice bait to something that isn't bait isn't very nice bait, mate
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>>67912869
>she's kind and charming

When? She felt uppity and abrasive the whole movie
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>>67913056
Indeed.
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>>67913085
Kek
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>>67912869
it is neither too much or too little.

she was kennedy`s self insert in the star wars franchise so rey is a mary sue.

but

it doesn`t make the movie bad for me.
my only complain is that rey has no more place to go from were she is,She`s already connected with the force and know`s how to make it guide her actions.
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>>67913545
She clearly has a lot to learn still. That's why Luke's going to train her, dumbass
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>>67912869
>>fails at using the mind trick the first time

then 3 seconds later she tries it again and it works

S H I T
H
I
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>>67913606
we shall see.
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>>67913028
>I have to read a book of the movies universe to understand something in the movie

Shit excuse
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why are you greentexting her achievements? is this a brand new meme?
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>>67913629
>mfw swn use the mind trick to make you perform cunnilingus
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>>67913676
That sentence doesn't even make sense. Maybe you should read one of the lower level Star Wars books, then work your way up to the one where it clearly states that she uses a simulator to learn how to fly
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>>67913545
Characters that are super gifted always have room to develop.

They can become arrogant and too certain in their abilities, setting themselves up for a major fall.
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>>67912869
>at first
>the first time

One movie in an intended trilogy of films is not a character arc.

She's an awfully written pandering character. Admit it and get over the fact that this new series of films is, while better than the prequels, mediocre.
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>>67912869
She's still a Mary Sue

>I buypassed the whaterver

I don't hate her character, but that doesn't make her not a mary sue. I personally really liked her introduction and the whole scavenging stuff. But beyond that it sucked.

Honestly it would have been better if Finn and Rey escaped on the QUAD JUMPAH and Han had the Falcon the entire time on his big ship.
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>>67913629
Wow, it's almost like if you try hard enough, you'll succeed. You wouldn't know though, since you dropped out of school and still live with your mom
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>>67913676
book is uncannon.

rey says in the movie that she worked on the falcon before.

she knows the falcon "better" than han because what she outsmarts han is unkar plut`s modifications that she probably installed.

her pilot skills can be atribuied to the force but it still lazy writing
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>>67913830
>mediocre
Try again.
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>>67913830
BAIT
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Why do marysuefags completely ignore the fact that she was obviously one of Luke's Jedi trainee kids? She would've had at least 5 or 6 years of training as a kid and that's fucking way longer than that chump Luke trained.
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>>67913837
She ripped it out, faggot

>>67913844

Except that it is canon
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>>67913830
Why would anyone with a reasonable mind judge an entire series of films that have yet to be created?

I mean, judge TFA as a solo film all you want. But you'd have to be a full-on retard to judge the following film based on it.
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>>67913756
>They can become arrogant
she already is.
"DON`T TAKE MY HAND!!"
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>>67913844
The book is canon, phamalamabakadeslarinthemorning.tif.
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>>67913925
Ripped what out?
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>>67913980
>phamalamabakadeslarinthemorning.tif

wtf?
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>>67913989
The compressor, dipass
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>>67912869
>>people like her because she's kind and charming
Isn't one of the characteristics of a sue that everyone just likes her?
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>>67913077
Well then you are lost.
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>>67914020
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>>67913979
Some people don't like being touched without permission >>67914047
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>>67912869
>damage control: the post
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>>67914047
No, a Sue is liked for no reason
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>>67914072
>denial: the post
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>>67913979
>implying you wouldn't do the same if some random nigger tried to grab your hand
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>>67913892
Fuck off living meme. You have no argument.

And neither do these fucks.
>>67913881
>>67913956

We're talking about Rey you stupid queers.
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She is, and very much like the vast majority of the movie, forgettable.
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>>67914118
>forgettable

That kek was worth sixty portions
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>>67914112
>Fuck off
>these fucks
>stupid queers

>mfw I will never get this mad at people's opinions of a Star Wars film
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how can anyone hate her?
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>>67914020
it's an image file format kind of like .png and .bmp
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>>67912869
>she accidentally lets out the Ranthars
but somehow miraciously knows exactly how to operate the door-closing-panel thing to close the exact door at the exact moment that it cuts the tentacle in half but not cut Fin in half-- also she's never done this before but it works out perfectly
>knows how to defend herself using her staff
do we see her beat up anyone with her staff other than Fin, an unarmed man? There was no set up that she was an experienced fighter, or even a good fighter, just that she can whack things with a stick. Can a kid on a tee-ball team beat an Olympic fencer because he knows how to swing a bat?
>learns to fly using a simulator
when?
>isn't able to overpower Ren at first
she's able to resist his mind rape without any sort of training, and she easily does a mind trick on a storm trooper without any sort of training too. Don't forget Luke after being trained for months by Yoda couldn't defeat Vader, he got his ass kicked. And technically he couldn't beat Vader in the third film either. So Rey accomplishes in the span of 5 minutes what took Luke three films and who-know-how-many-years of training.
>fails at using the mind trick the first time
no, that was the first time she ever did a mind trick and it worked.
>people like her because she's kind and charming
Luke was kind and charming and Chewbacka didn't like him at first, neither did Han, or R2, or Leia.
>still gets called a Mary Sue

This isn't even an argument. Mary Sues are unrealistically gifted/talented characters that everyone likes for no reason and steals the story from the original characters. She's the biggest Mary Sue since Eragon.
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>>67912869
Rather than sperging out over the definition of a "Mary Sue", can't we just agree that this was an uninteresting, poorly written character portrayed by an actor with the talent of a paving tile?
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>>67914089
Yeah normal characters generally have to earn the goodwill of other characters.
especially if its in a stressful environment.

I love how Han Solo was just irritated at the beginning with Luke and his plans and how he wanted to save leia.
They had back and forth and slowly became friends.

Meanwhile everyone was instantly in love with Rey in TFA
Han, Finn, Leia and even the Villain.

I mean you can argue that Han solo matured but don't pretend there isn't a huge difference in how everyone treated Rey.
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>>67914181
>That Rey art

If only she looked similar to that in the film
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>>67912869
>still gets called a Mary Sue
She's a MaRey Sue.
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>>67914181
>do we see her beat up anyone with her staff other than Fin,

This fag clearly didn't watch the movie

>learns to fly using a simulator
>when

In the canon prequel book

>no that was the first time she used a mind trick and it worked

"I'll tighten those restraints, scavenger scum."

>Luke was kind and charming and nobody liked him at first

What the fuck? Yes they did
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>>67913606
Wait till you find out in VIII that Rey is the one who trains Luke.
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>>67914227
Han wanted to get rid of Rey at first.

Kylo doesn't love Rey. Go back to Tumblr
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>>67913545
just like Luke S. is Lucas' self-insert, therefore Luke is also a Mary Sue
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>>67914181
>Rey can do mind tricks but Luke couldn't defeat Vader
the fact that you think Kylo is somehow as strong as Vader is laughable and voids all your other opinions.
Rey and Kylo are two little kids who have no idea what they're doing with their powers. It wouldn't be hard to resist someone as emotionally unstable and fuckheaded as Kylo
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>>67914288
0/10 didn't kek
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>>67914072
Actually anon, you are the damage control. The vast majority of people outside of this little /pol/ bubble thought she was the best part of the movie.
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Reminder that anyone who doesn't like Rey is just mad because she invaded their "Star Wars boys only club"
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>>67914149
You know it's true desu
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>>67914181
>There was no set up that she was an experienced fighter, or even a good fighter
if she wasn`t she would be dead already.

>she's able to resist his mind rape without any sort of training,
without the mask ren`s weak(he`s insecure as fuck).when rey made him take the mask off she won that mind rape.

>no, that was the first time she ever did a mind trick and it worked.
kylo thought her while the mind rape.

This isn't even an argument. Mary Sues are unrealistically gifted/talented characters that everyone likes for no reason and steals the story from the original characters. She's the biggest Mary Sue since Eragon.

mary sues are the artist self insert in the story in this case rey was katelynn(don`t know her name) kennedy so she`s a mary sue.
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>>67914397
No, not really
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>>67914376
dunno she was alright but i liked finn and bb8 the most
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>>67914333
nah...
lucas self incert is han.just look at the original

han had the exatly face lucas does.
and luke was a girl.
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>>67914285
>What the fuck? Yes they did
Chewbacka growls at Luke when he tries to put handcuffs on him, and I'm sure he gets agitated at Luke some other times too.

Han slaps Luke's hand when he tries to push buttons on the Falcon, calls him a kid, and talks down to him for believing in the force.

R2 runs away from Luke, wont replay the message for him, and openly disobeys him.

Leia's first words to Luke are "aren't you a little short to be a storm trooper?" And she's catty throughout the entire rescue mission.

>in the canon prequel book
good films with well written characters don't need outside sources for the film to make sense.

>I'll tighten those restraints
She uses the jedi mind trick once in the whole film, and uses it only on one storm trooper, and it works. Even I were to concede this "nuh uh, it took TWO tries!" point you're trying to make, she still does it without any sort of training whatsoever. Luke wasn't pulling that shit in the first film.
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>>67914444
There's no self insert in the original. It's just a story following The Hero with a Thousand Faces verbatim.
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>>67914478
The points that you bring up about Luke and Rey being treated differently are valid, but they make me curious about why it was written that way.
If you think about it, no one really treats girls like that in this society.
Both of their entire situations are actually different because the movies were written at different times and they are different genders.
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>>67912869
>learns to fly using a simulator
Not in the book, and she was taking on trained pilots in a ship she never flew before and these were pilots who in the First Order started learning as children.
>isn't able to overpower Ren at first
And then 15 min later could
>fails at using the mind trick the first time
And then 1 min later could

Could you image if in IV Luke fought Vader and beat him, then took on a bunch of tie fighters effortlessly.
I don't know how many times /tv/ has to explain to plebs why she is a Mary Sue, but we should stop because the people defending her are either:
1. Women who can't understand basic plot points that move stories and just want to see a stronk wymeuon
2. Turbo betas who will defend a shit character because they want her to touch their peepees.
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>>67914412
>if she wasn`t she would be dead already.
Jar Jar was a shitty fighter and he survived.

>without the mask ren`s weak
I must have missed that deleted scene.

>Kylo taught her how to do the mind trick
wow, that's an unrealisticly fast way to pick up what I assume is an incredibly difficult discipline. If only there was a special term for this sort of oh wait it's Mary Sue.

Mary Sues are more than just a self insert. I won't deny that they are self inserts, but there are more qualities to them than just that.
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>>67914584
>And then 15 min later could
the force did not rey.
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>>67914376
>people outside of this little /pol/ bubble thought she was the best part of the movie.
That still doesn't mean she wasn't a Mary sue. A lot of people also really like Bella from Twilight and she is as Mary Sue as they come.
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Will she kill Kylo Ren?
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>>67912869
She failed the mind trick once and attempted it again not even five mins later and got it to work.
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>>67914621
That's not how it works
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>>67914744
how do you know?
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>>67914621
So then there is no reason to train in the Force since just having the Force makes you proficient. Then why would she need to find Luke then?
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>>67914708
Kylo will probably be redeemed.

The bigger questions is how will Luke become a force ghost? Through old age like Yoda, or will Kylo kill him.
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>>67914595
>Jar Jar was a shitty fighter and he survived.
you meant darth jar jar?

>I must have missed that deleted scene.
you can see this in:
-ren takes the mask off and loses the mind rape
-when ren`s mask less speaking to snoke and hux comes in he looks straight down to the floor like an akward teenager
-ren mask less is touched by han`s words in the bridge and almost went to the light side
-his voice tone and how he speaks change 180 degrees when he takes the mask off

mask on: threatning and menacing

mask off: a lost,whiner and emo child
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>>67914796
>yfw Luke actually survives the whole trilogy
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>>67914796
if Kylo kills Luke there won't be any redemption for him. Luke would probably die taking Snoke with him.
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>>67913837
>I don't hate her character, but that doesn't make her not a mary sue.

The problem is that people use it as a point against her despite all the male Mary Sue characters in movies.

According to Max Landis, Master Chief and John McClane are also Sues but that doesn't like them any less.

Mel Gibson in Payback had even thicker plot armor than Rey but no one held that against him.
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>>67914836
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>>67914839
*doesn't make people like them any less
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>>67914786
the trick part in the training is to tap into the force.

to do so you have to be a calm and patient person wich rey is.

luke took so many time to learn how to "use" the force because he was impatiente he even stops his training in the middle,he was too imature.
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>>67914851
>yfw Rey dies
but Kylo uses his powers to revive her
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>>67914898
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>>67913056
I'd let her sit on my face p.s. I'm a girl
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>>67914927
who's this goblin?
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>>67914887
So Vader didn't kill all those Jedi, the Force did.

You'd make a hell of lawyer.

Also Ben didn't have the high ground, the Force did.

Rey didn't need to train, because she was patient. You're ruining the lore more than Midiclorians
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>>67912869
>swn use a jedi mind trick to force you to jerk off into your own mouth
;_;
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>>67914887
So instead of teaching Luke meditation techniques, Ben decides to stick a helmet over his head and zap him with a droid while he tries to deflect it with lightsaber which in turn would make him more agitated. So in other words Obi Wan and the rest of the Jedi masters were either horribly wrong with their training or just being dicks to Luke and other Padawans.
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>>67914173
Not gonna lie, Id happily spend the rest of my life as her personal,toilet, but on my third rewatch, her accent got too Arnold-esque
>Youre Aaaan Solo! Daa Smugglah!
>I boipaased da compressah!
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how will they introduce the real snake without it seeming like a joke? he's either gonna be a giant who can just step on luke/rey/finn/whoever will come to stop him, or he's gonna be a lot smaller and look funny in comparison to his hologram.
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>>67914972
no man the dark side is the corruption of the force.

is something like you take that power against itself that`s why it destroys the user look at palpatine and vader

btw preequels don`t existed.
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>>67914997
Yeah except Arnold isn't as annoying since he doesn't bob his head after every word and have that shit eating grin.

>OI BOIPAHSSED DA CUMPRESSAH XDDDD
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>>67915061
They are two sides of the force.

And the prequels are cannon, and the cartoons too. Deal with it.
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the problem with her character was a problem the whole movie had, it all moved too quickly with no exposition
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>>67914982
jeez,you guys are realy trying.I like that.

the blind blaster deflection training was not to teach luke how to deflect blasters but to get him in contact with the force.
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>>67915061
Just because you make up reasons for why things happen in a movie doesn't make them true.
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>>67915116
but they`d destroyed the lore of the force.It was unforgivable.
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>>67913056
She's basically the poor man's Luke though.
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pls don't be Luke's daughter
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>>67913916
Because it would destroy their Mary Sue meme.
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>>67914839
all of those characters failed internally though
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>>67915127
And I like how you just make up exposition to explain things that happened in the movie instead of actually knowing anything about the lore.
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>>67914946
That's clearly a cum chum
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>>67915126
Yeah that scene on Han's ship where they meet for the first time really didn't need those fucking bounty hunters showing up
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>>67913916
it relies on mind wipe/amnesia, which so far doesn't exist in Star Wars. EU shit doesn't count.
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>>67915296
Tell that to Kanji Club.
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>>67913629
Imagine if Star Wars Episode 7: TFA were run as an RPG
Imagine playing in that gaming group
Han Solo
>high level, experienced character, animal companion, awesome gear, friends and enemies in low places,
>player is moving or something, wants his character to go out with a bang
>gm makes him go out with a whimper

Poe
>player is a powergamer with a heart of gold
>player knows the system, makes awesome badass ace pilot
>player has a weird schedule.
>only shows up randomly.

Finn
>new player
>gm makes him a character
>trained from birth rogue stormtrooper
>being new, he's kind of sidelined by more experienced players and...

Rey
>GM's girlfriend
>enough said
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>>67914579
>If you think about it, no one really treats girls like that in this society.

Except this argument loses all weight when you factor in that Han was condescending and rude as fuck towards Leia and Chewie didn't particularly care for her or acknowledge her at all.

So no, the "Rey is a grill, that's why they're nicer!!!" reasoning is shit.
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>>67915274
now what happens in the movie isn`t part of the lore?

every shit thay i say is based on the dialogs of ANH and ESB.
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>>67914796
>Kylo will probably be redeemed
>burns his victims and keeps their ashes

The faggot doesn't deserve redemption. Neither did Anakin, for that matter.
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>>67915392
Leia can forgive him and that's all that matters really
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>>67915350
well duh, he had a crush on her
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>>67914839
How is chief a sue? He's just a mostly mute vessel for the player, and the only thing he's good at is killing shit because he/the player doesn't do anything else
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>>67915370
>Doesn't provide any dialog to back claims.
Whatever you say buddy. But please continue it's cute how you really want to prove Rey isn't a Mary Sue.
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>>67915332
昨夜、流れ星を見ました
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>>67915430
he was part of an organization that killed an entire solar system

the also ordered the death of numerous civilians, executed max von südow's octogenarian character himself

he's gonna have to turn transgender for kathleen kennedy to allow that to be forgiven

not sure why han didn't shoot first when he saw him on that bridge.
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>>67914341
>Ren is not strong
>was shown to have the strongest use of force push powers ever shown on film

Yah, Sure, Okay.
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>>67912869
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>>67915304
>what are repressed memories?
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>>67915517
no,man

rey`s totally a mary sue but you guys strech that too far.

there`s some stuff that she does that make sense within the movie but there`s others that are pure laze writing.
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>>67914181
>she's able to resist his mind rape without any sort of training

To be fair, the mind rape isn't meant to work on people with strong minds or other force users - Luke can't use it on Jabba, Qui-gon Gin can't use it on Watto, etc

Otherwise every lightsaber fight would just be trying to mind trick the other guy into lightsabering themselves

She's still a mary sue
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>>67915623
This.
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Why is she so smug?
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>>67914836
He fucking better. Luke wasn't originally introduced to the series as the wise old sage destined to die, he's his own character and he deserves to not be reduced to a redundant trope.
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>>67914634
>Bella
I think you mean Edward. Bella was practically a sack of potatoes that sucked at volleyball for all the audience cared
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>>67915535
And this somehow says more about Kylo Ren's powers and less about lack of dedication to being consistent to movies made ~30 years ago by a different director with different effects capabilities?
I disagree
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>>67915747
Luku-kun is kawaii, but not as kawaii as Bilba-sama. ( ´༎ຶㅂ༎ຶ`)
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>>67915731
She stole a rare pepe from inside Ren's mind.
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I dont think she was a mary sue but I think she is currently a bit of a weak character. Not bad by any means just a little weak.

The next movie is sure to flesh her out a bit more though.
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>>67915961
She is a weak character. Maybe if she had some character flaws she could develop. But if Rey has flaws then feminism has flaws, and that can't be true.
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>>67915856
>literally canon
>still won't accept it

Pathetic.
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>>67915913
Ruku-chan > Birubo Bagginsu
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>>67916062
yeah show me how it's canon and on purpose and I'll accept it
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>>67916253
Are you arguing the new movie is not canon?
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>>67916273
no, I'm curious at what point it says, "Wow! Kylo just force pushed someone stronger than anyone else ever!", or was it someone pausing the movies and compared distances, or what?
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>>67916024

She has flaws.

She is scared of her destiny and even tries to fucking up and abandon it to go hide on jakku.

She also is emo about her parents leaving her or whatever.
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>>67915535
he`s strong with the mask and all that implyies

he`s weak without it.
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>>67916401
>She also is emo about her parents leaving her or whatever.

That's not a flaw, that's a normal human reaction.
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>>67916454

wow.
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>>67916401
She doesn't want to hide on Jakku, she wanted to wait there for her parents.
If her dad (Luke) showed up before Han offered her the job, she'd say yes. Its obvious that she wants it, but that she feels her parents might come looking for her while she's off having space adventures.
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>>67916594

still flaws
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>>67912869
>knows Han's ship better than he does despite just entering it
>Immediately gains trust of Han and Leia and let in on 'find Luke' mission despite it being of utmost importance
>is the special baby Anakin's saber calls to without anything similar happening to Ren
>mind tricks on the second try, a feat of trained jedi
>in the span of hours goes from knowing nothing of the force to defeating a trained jedi in single combat

M A R Y S U E
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>>67916522
it's not a flaw. if anything it's just part of her back story. a flaw is being selfish or chronically late or having a bad sense of direction, not being sad about having dead/missing parents
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>>67916685
If anything, her being 'wronged' by abandonment showcases her Sueness by giving her another sympathetic quality. Not only does she steamroll everything in the film, she has no negative qualities.
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>>67916740
oh like batman?
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>>67916796
>oh, like a guy whose modern portrayal is that of a barely together vigilante with a crusade that inevitably pushes everyone away, with exposition focusing on his consistent inability to protect his loved ones and stop crime from infesting his city?

Yeah, exactly like Rey I guess.
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>>67916676
>knows Han's ship better than he does despite just entering it
she had worked there before,she says that in the movie and she only outsmarts han in the updates that unkar plut did in the falcon

>Immediately gains trust of Han and Leia and let in on 'find Luke' mission despite it being of utmost importance
han,after finding the two in the falcon, says that he will drop them in the nearest planet they only starts trusting them when they mencion luke

>is the special baby Anakin's saber calls to without anything similar happening to Ren
rey deserved the skywalker heritage,re didn`t
that`s why the excalibur chose her

>mind tricks on the second try, a feat of trained jedi
kylo`s mind rape on rey taught her how to mind rape

>in the span of hours goes from knowing nothing of the force to defeating a trained jedi in single combat
-trained jedi
kylo without the mask is too much insecure to fight or do anything else, he became really weak
-what defeated kylo there wasn`t rey,it was the force acting trhough her.
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>>67914851


NEED

2

BREED
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>>67912869
In retrospect, TFA was the most OK movie of all time.
Like, I don't feel anything particularly negative nor positive towards it. It was just a couple of hours that albeit entertaining, merely just passed.
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>>67916796
>Deeply traumatized and paranoid manchild that suffers numerous defeats from superior opponents
>Relies on tricks, preparation and training to be effective

She's nothing like Bats you absolute madman
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Is kai lauren a r9k poster?
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>>67915623
Wait, I'm confused. What's a Mary Sue and is this a case against Luke or for him?
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>>67917056
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>>67917132
Wait, never mind
I just looked it up.
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>>67916740
She just steamrolls kylo ren who is pretty shit tier and not even a sith lord
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>>67917167

where did you get this from?
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>>67914796
>Kylo will probably be redeemed.
When he took off his mask I thought he was going to be like the fire kid from avatar who becomes a good guy or whatever.
But then he killed han solo
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>>67915334
>Rey
>GM's girlfriend
>enough said
MY SIDES
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>>67916999
Wait, am I seeing a decently constructed pro-Rey argument?
>she had worked there before,she says that in the movie and she only outsmarts han in the updates that unkar plut did in the falcon

I don't remember this being in the film, so I'll give it to you.

>han,after finding the two in the falcon, says that he will drop them in the nearest planet they only starts trusting them when they mention luke
Two kids knowing about Luke does not a friend make. It's not as if big goddamn galactic heroes are a secret club. So the trust is indeed immediate, though we could call it a draw after the gangs/monster thing, as perhaps time pressed Han more than discretion at that point.

>rey deserved the skywalker heritage,re didn`t
that`s why the excalibur chose her
There is zero evidence that Rey has Skywalker heritage besides vague b/s that can be easy ruses, Obi-Wan blurry montages aside.

>kylo`s mind rape on rey taught her how to mind rape
that's not how the Force works, or has ever worked. Either Rey is the strongest force sensitive ever (putting her close to the Mary Sue category) or it's just a film bro which does nothing to inch her away from the 'Sue comparisons.

>-trained jedi
kylo without the mask is too much insecure to fight or do anything else, he became really weak
-what defeated kylo there wasn`t rey,it was the force acting trhough her.

Point 1 makes no sense, though I could argue for you that the conflict over Ren killing his father inhibited his ability to draw strength from his hate, and combined with a bowcaster shot to his side and the Force just going through Rey it's not implausible for Ren to lose. Still, actively using the force to defeat an opponent is way more conscious than say shooting bullets into a hole with your eyes closed.
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>>67917212
>better than trained TIE pilots despite never actually flying
>360 noscopes stormtroopers with a pea shooter
>out Forces Ren (who took out Luke's Jedi Temple) and defeats him in single combat

Also Ren blocks a blaster bolt with his hand, which is some Vader-core.
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>>67917436
This and many other things are why I have a feeling the next 2 are going to be complete and utter pieces of garbage
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>>67912869
>he ban evades, shitposts, and baits /tv/ with an Apple iPhone

nice one fag
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>>67912869
sure is reddit in here
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>>67912869

I watched the movie today. I thought it was shit.

How did it get an 8.5 rating on IMDB?
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>>67913056
>qt as fuck
Are we looking at the same person?
>p.s. I'm a girl
No you aren't
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>>67918414
>How did it get an 8.5 rating on IMDB?
bluepilled retards and sheeny jewish curses
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>>67912869
>>she accidentally lets out the Ranthars
Is that what the kids are calling it these days? We just called them farts.
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>>67918414
Let me guess, you either never liked Star Wars in the first place, or you have some kind of agenda in hating the movie because "muh muh politically correct SJW takeover pushing a mulitculturalist narrative!"
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>>67915489
Exactly, he's literally a self-insert.
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>>67913093
now this is podracing
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>>67912869
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>>67915334
>animal companion
But Chewie's a sentient, you little shit
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>Named Rey, a boy's name
>Her hair is tied back so she looks like a boy with short hair

Interesting how Disney didn't want the SW audience to dwell on the fact that the main character for the new SW franchise was a girl, by trying to visually fool the audience by making her have these male details.

It was like they tried very hard to make her into Luke with a vagina.
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>>67919004

this is the reason the original trilogy are the only watchable ones, i understand it's >the future in space, but the SJW equality crap is out of control and prevents the characters from being flawed humans, as all of us are in some way
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>>67919172
>as all of us are in some way

Speak for yourself you flawed piece of hot garbage.
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>>67915334
its perfect
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>>67915005
I really, really hope that he is giant. if he's tiny then it's just another thing that they stole from the original trilogy

inb4 i get 3 replies about pottery
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>>67914173
who has the edit of her holding a condom?
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>>67914839
video games are shit examples

biggest mary sue is the faggot from ass effect and that story is fucking terrible
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She literally says in the movie she's piloted before. Just not in space. Yet everyone ignores this.
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>>67919722
yes, she piloted before yes, she piloted the falcon before in a dog fight in the inside of a star destroyer running from some one firing at her, yes, she piloted inside a star destroyer out running a trained fighter pilot inside a death star, before.

yes.
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She only gets called a Mary Sue because she had no training, if they had just said she was one of Luke's apprentices or the daughter of one, she'd be treated more or less like Luke was.( save for virgin neckbeards, which is 80 percent of this site, but still)
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>>67919772
Exactly.
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>Falcon is covered partially by a tarp
>You can easily tell its the falcon
>"That ones garbage!"
>Fast forward 10 minutes
>Yor 'an Sohlow an' this is tha meleniem fawlcon!"

Why did she get so excited over garbage?
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>>67919843
Because, like Vader, everyone and everything got retroactively more important than would have realistically been. Han solo was a smuggler that only escorted Luke and Leia around the galaxy. No one should even remember this guy, Lando blew up the second death star and should close to Luke in terms of in-universe fame, yet Billy D Williams isn't even coming back for episode 8, popularity determines character relevance, look at Fett.
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>>67919825
Now if only they showed us the part where she actually did fly the falcon in the innards of a star destroyer avoiding fire from a trained fighter pilot, then we'd be half way there.
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why did they get jp from grandmas boy to play the villain? lmao
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>>67919785
Luke was treated like shit by the fanbase back in the day because he wasn't "muh badass Mary Sue power fantasy I can project myself onto". Basically he was criticized for the reverse reasons Rey is criticized.
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