Find a flaw.You can't.
>>67894955
>Love > Science
lol fuck off
it exists
>>67894955
It's really fucking boring once they go into space.
The story never seems to be working towards a clear or consistent thematic direction
Most of the technical stuff that's intended to be impressive, such as the score and the space effects, felt derivative of existing works.
>>67895157
>The story never seems to be working towards a clear or consistent thematic direction
This.
On top of that, the metaphysics threw the scientific accuracy they it was trying to be known for out the window.
I liked the movie at the beginning, but most if not everything from the point of MM heading into space was bland or shit.
DUDE LOVE LMAO
DUDE BLACK HOLE MACHINA
>>67894955
The ending was as hammy as a honey glazed christmas ham.
Is Christopher Nolan themost overrateddirector of all time?
>>67895641
Probably not. But then again, out of pic related he probably belongs least.
>>67894955
I mean, I loved the movie but it definitely has some narrative/pacing flaws.
>>67894955
Honestly?
The movie was so grand that it kinda killed future sci-fi movies until Avatar 2 comes out.
>walk into Martian
>seems ok
>boring pop-culture flick
Interstellar was pure epicness in the cinema.
Probably the most awe-inspiring movie Ive seen in a long time.
magic space library
have walking machines and don't send them to the planets first
anne hathaway is ugly
>>67894993
>lol
No, you fuck off.
Lurk more.
>>67895809
magic space library
have walking machines and don't send them to the planets first
>He didnt understand the movie.
>anne hathaway is ugly
Correct. You show us a 10/10 astronaut.
This movie was epic in the non meme sense of the word
It was incredible and insirational
Nolans use of music alone in his movies extract tremendous emotion
The gravity in his films have no rival
TDKR is his worst movie and that's not even exceptionally atrocious, unlike the low points of his predecessor greats
I'm being completely genuine
>>67895699
He's the most overrated on IMDB, at least.
http://gb.imdb.com/chart/top
>4. The Dark Knight (2008)
>14. Inception (2010)
>31. Interstellar (2014)
>46. Memento (2000)
>49. The Prestige (2006)
>62. The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
>108. Batman Begins (2005)
That is some serious fanboyism
>>67896186
Who cares what Indians and 14 year olds think?
>>67896169
It felt like an imitation of 'epic' put together by somebody with an idea of what several epic movies looked like, but not a strong understanding of any of the below the surface traits that made those movies so memorable. We've got the score from Koyaanisqatsi and the visuals from 2001, but the heart of neither. Some of the scenes around the movie's climax might have looked and sounded somewhat impressive but I think that when the engine that's driving them is a confused clusterfuck of time-dilation, family values and a non-message about the nature of man (or Mann) it doesn't hit home at all.
>>67895641
In some circles he's so thought of as overrated he is actually underrated.. but I agree that he is definitely overrated on IMDB and he doesn't belong on any best directors lists.
I quite liked Interstellar, but it has very obvious flaws, like it's clunky exposition and out of place sentimentality.
>>67895875
>10/10 astronaut.
matthew mahogany
>he didn't understand the movie
please explain my other two points then
>>67896353
>It felt like an imitation of 'epic' put together by somebody with an idea of what several epic movies looked like, but not a strong understanding of any of the below the surface traits that made those movies so memorable. We've got the score from Koyaanisqatsi and the visuals from 2001, but the heart of neither. Some of the scenes around the movie's climax might have looked and sounded somewhat impressive but I think that when the engine that's driving them is a confused clusterfuck of time-dilation, family values and a non-message about the nature of man (or Mann) it doesn't hit home at all.
True. There's not a single iconic or instantly memorable sequence in the entire thing, truthfully.
I really liked Murph, she was a qt
>>67894955
Kubrick wannabe
>>67895641
As a blockbuster director, no.
Better than Cameron IMHO
>>67896528
>the launch isn't memorable
>the wormhole
>>67896353
It didn't feel that way at all. The time dilation only added to the emotional pull between Murphy and MC. The problem for me was the sudden calm at the end felt jarring
>>67896714
Kubrick is a master of themes
Nolan is a master of presentation
The movie was alright, but the love stuff was a little lame. Didn't like Anne Hathaway, but I always liked this scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3a0C0_77wc
Feels real, and the music is cool.
>>67896784
Nolan is master of exposition
>>67895699
>Le Martin "I can only make one genre of movie" Scorsese
>not overrated
>>67894955
Chicken or the egg? Discuss.
>>67896861
I personally think that Scorsese is incredibly overrated, but I think that Nolan coming up there is worse.
Casino, Goodfellas and Wolf of Wall Street are all the same movie, and that movie is shit. They just drag on and on without really feeling like they're working towards something. Instead it's more like plot happens and then keeps happening until it stops. It's like a few episodes taken out of a tv series. Their stories unfold in what I think is a very soap-opera like fashion.
The script wasnt as profound as it presented itself as.
I also read a book that basically had the same elements as this one but didnt have the bullshit about love not being bound by reality. So I never had the same reaction to it that most people did. I think very few people read science fiction books these days and thought this flick had anything new or amazing in it.
The book I'm thinking of is Starfarers by Poul Anderson.
>>67895641
not anymore
after tdkr and this one hes been brought down
even the quote unquote "hardcore" nolan plebs have pretty much vanished from this board
Anne Hathaway's dyke haircut. She was looking so good in TDKR, too.
>>67896516
>matthew mahogany
Men can be smart and attractive (masculine). Women cannot.
>please explain my other two points then
>magic space library
Ill dumb it down, so you can follow.
>Mahogany flies into black hole, because humans on earth need black hole data, to accurately be able to manipulate and harness gravity in order to successfully leave earth
>future 4th dimensional humans have no way to send back the information
>so they send a black hole (near saturn)
>then they hope for mahogany to fly into black hole
>since love is the only constant despite time/space he is the best chance to send back the info to the one person who can solve the gravity equation
>the 4th dimensional beings create a "space library" so mahogany can send back said info
>have walking machines and don't send them to the planets first
Sending the machines to the planets was non-sense, since plan A was always meant to fail.
Plan B was always the real aim.
>love
>>67896967
Never heard of Starfarers, to me the movie felt like a confused combination of Gunbuster, Mission to Mars and Contact with a little bit of Arthur C. Clarke influence thrown in. Or rather, 2001 influence, which was adapted from Clarke's work.
>>67894955
DUDE SPOONFED EXPOSITION LMAO
>>67897136
It's funny you say this when most people didn't even understand that
It's like movies today necessarily are going to be partial toward plebs.
>spend hundreds of millions on greatest visual effects in Sci-Fi since forever
>nice setting, good storywriting, remain quasi-scientific to engage the viewer
>do this for 2 hours
>use the remaining plot time to shit all over the movie
so much why
can you imagine how good this movie would have been if they hadn't done the whole love and FUCKING 5D BOOKSHELF BLACK HOLE thing but instead showed some of the final planet with them coming to terms that they will never go home and abandoning earth?
that robot was fucking OP
it was able to pilot on an unknown planet
communicate from hella far away
communicate clearly
use tools and manipulate handles/switches
move over any terrain
>>67897212
>It's like movies today necessarily are going to be partial toward plebs.
>it's like producers want their movie seen
>it's like people who spend millions to create a product aim for a large market
How could he send himself the co ordinates of the nasa building? Surely that's a flaw? How could he be on this space adventure if he hadn't sent himself nasa co ords in the first place? Hence my comment here >>67896919
>>67897028
>the send a black hole
>they hope
>love
>create space library
yeah, you summed it up. movie is shit
>>67897233
robots nowadays are able to do all of that to a certain extent
>spacequinoa
>>67897261
Where did you read the implication that I thought it was unreasonable or something?
If anything I try to read out things like the love garbage pandering
>>67897212
>>>67894955 (OP)
Then they shouldn't have tried so hard to over complicate the plot. A good director can through visuals and characterization
>>67897367
People usually dislike what they dont understand.
>>67897276
Agreed. He couldn't go into space till he'd received his message which he couldn't send till he'd gone into space.
how does moving to new space stations solve the food situation?
>>67897378
we aren't even close to making AI that good
>>67897429
i understand that the movie is retarded and people who think they're smart just use the old "you're too stupid to understand" excuse
>>67897491
>magic space library
>have walking machines and don't send them to the planets first
>please explain my other two points then
You clearly didnt understand the movie.
Noone is gonna blame you for not understanding sci-fi, if thats not your favorite genre.
BUT, it is very common for people to dislike things they dont understand. Im not trying to be a dick.
>>67897567
not him btw but I think everyone got the fact that plan B was the real plan. He's just saying the whole magic space library etc. was retarded and you can't just say "well you just don't understand the magic black hole bookshelf"
while in the space bookshelf he sends coordinates to nasa
then he sends dont go....which his past self ignores....and he knows he ignored it because he's in space. i thought this guy was smart
should've just not sent the coordinates
>>67897713
>should've just not sent the coordinates
but then the black hole would never have existed in the first place.
>>67894955
Last 30 mintues were shit.
The exposition is just shoehorned in, instead os being told things through visuals, characters just tell everything about their own world to each other (that scene in the school were they talk about the military and the moon landing feels so forced).
And we even have scientists telling each other things they should already know, just so the audience can keep up, that's just lazy writing.
DUDE SOMETHING WENT WRONG LMAO
DUDE I JUST SCIENCED THE SHIT OUT OF IT LMAO
DUDE NO TENSION IN THE WHOLE MOVIE LMAO
>>67897842
I agree, the moon landing thing was really bad. Same with the "wormhole" thing, yeah several NASA astronauts probably know how it is supposed to work before they get sent into one.
>genius physicist woman explains how relativity works when they go through the wormhole, then forgets how physics works so they can justify going down to the planet, then once they're there remembers how it works again and slaps herself on the forehead for being such a silly goose and costing them literally decades in Earth time for what was clearly a dead end
>>67898039
yeah that was really bad.
>hey let me waste 1-2 decades for a data recorder of what is quite obviously a tsunami planet
>>67898091
just send the robot for it while they wait in space
>>67898130
Idiocy aside, the reason they couldn't get the data from the machine on the planet was because of relativity, sending another machine isn't going to help
>>67897451
this
Exposition: The flick
>>67897855
Wrong movie
>>67897451
Don't think about it
>>67897451
>>67898176
They had what they needed to grow food, they just couldn't because everything on Earth would be killed by the blight that was causing the dustbowl situation. Apparently they had solved growing crops in zero-g, or at least how to generate artificial gravity once in space, but they weren't capable of getting everyone off the planet.
It's a movie that makes plebs feel like patricians.Read: makes dumb people feel smart
>>67894955
I can't, because it was flawless
>>67898240
They could've just grown crops in an isolated environment on earth. That would be a far more efficient way of doing it.
>>67894955
When he started flying around dimensions.
>>67894955
none. it set the bar of space films way too high. it won't be topped for like a century or so.just kidding, maybe 10 or so years
>>67898326
Yeah but then they wouldn't have been Interstellar and the title of the movie wouldn't have made any sense
>>67898433
Oh shit you're right. Nolan is agenius
>>67897028
How did the future 4th dimension humans solve the time equation first? Surely in order to get to that point they must have solved it without showing a human now it. Basically its like somehow now having to go back in time to teach cavemen how to make fire for no god damn reason because clearly they learnt because we are here anyway
