Japanese audiences didn't ask "Why did Papa Kent died there?".
In the same way Japanese audiences didn't ask "Why didn't Schultz shake his hand?" in Django.
Japanese people have a concept of GIRI, which is an obligation, a self-sacrificing duty, responsibility.
Papa Kent needed to die there, just as Schultz needed to die, to sacrifice themselves because they had this moral duty.
Meanwhile, American mouthbreathers can't understand why they did any of this.
>>67871488
I'm pretty sure in japan this was called Dragonball Z: Steel Saga
>>67871488
What did he mean by this?
yeah, suicide is really big in japan
the rest of us aren't such faggots
woulda thunk we gave em slanteyes enough self sacrifice in hiroshima
I'm pretty sure giri doesn't apply to invincible sons who could stop the entire thing from happening with 0% risk.
>>67871488
It made sense and we could understand the buildup of Schultz's character in Django. It just seemed out of place and silly in MoS.
>>67871612
How would he or the scared invincible son know this?
All Clark had to do was just run slightly faster than he normally does and attribute it to adrenaline.
>>67871586
WE KICKED THEIR ASS IN WW2 WE'LL DO IT AGAIN
>>67871697
He's just protecting his secret, not his safety here.
Which is dumb.
>>67871750
>slightly faster
>covers about 50 feet in 3 seconds
>in the eye of a tornado
>DUDE ADRENALINEwhich is something i've never actually experienced in my basement
>>67871788
His secret is important to not only him but the world.
Pretty sure the japs were too busy trying to de-censor their loli porn to go and watch MoS.
>>67871810
Nigga, he lives with a bunch of farm people. Who the fuck is going to question it?
>Yeah, I read about this one girl that lifted a car to save her son. Same thing must have happened here.
>>67871586
WRONG KID DIED
>>67871944
The people were already suspicious of him.
>>67871871
Gal gadot?
ストップ、インヴィンシブル ソン!
>>67871995
So leave the dog.
>>67871944
Kek, they probably could have pretended it was a miracle.
>>67872057
Hello Ahmed
Its a fucking retarded plotline, superman coulda saved him and everyone would've assuming it was just some bird flying by and his dad miraculously survived some way. Literally written just so batman could have a dark edgy past. Only dumb plebs will defend this shit.
![Pa+Kent+Heart+Attack[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/CRBBiZ7.png "Pa+Kent+Heart+Attack[1].png")
>Most continuities have Jon die in ways that Clark can do absolutely nothing to save him
>MoS has him dying in one of the easiest rescue scenarios ever
>>67871488
Caspar knew this.
>>67872117
At least MoS Pa Kent wasn't a hypocrite. Told Clark he should let the kids die. Told Clark he should let him die. Morally consistent.
>>67872251
Not a hypocrite
Just an idiot
It's no wonder MoS Clark is an idiot. This universes' Ma and Pa Kents are morons.
>>67872057
What message would that send to young Clark? That you shouldn't save lifeforms beneath you? Bad advice to give to an alien kid.
>>67872112
>Its a fucking retarded plotline, superman coulda saved him and everyone would've assuming it was just some bird flying by and his dad miraculously survived some way.
You don't know that.
>>67872334
>What message would that send to young Clark?
Doesn't matter. Pa already filled him up with idiotic ideas. He's already fucked in the head.
>>67872117
>MoS has him dying in one of the easiest rescue scenarios ever
Not really and that defined the character.
>>67871488
>Japanese audiences didn't ask "Why did Papa Kent died there?".
They were probably asking "Why did he commit suicide for a dog?"
>>67872371
You're a dumb motherfucker.
>>67872406
>Not really and that defined the character
You're right. It really did. Because of Pa Kent's teachings and final lessons, MoS Clark never learned to find another way for his problems. Just to give up and let nature take its course.
It's a good thing his space dad was Russel Crowe. He wouldn't raise a dumb as shit son like that.
>>67872368
Its an easier solution that a lot of people use in magic/superpower based worlds. People just assume magic was just some trick of the eye or brush a peculiar event off. Would have been way better then this stupid part which made zero sense.
>>67872334
>What message would that send to young Clark?
What message did the drowing horses story send to him?
"In saving someone close to you you're actually hurting other people. Rescuing one person from danger endangers someone else." Yeah, good talk son.
run over grab him, run back. Nooooo, let me die you cun't
>>67872497
>Its an easier solution that a lot of people use in magic/superpower based worlds. People just assume magic was just some trick of the eye or brush a peculiar event off.
This isn't that. Clark wouldn't be able to save his father and just brush the suspicions with a quip. People were already thinking that he was divine. They would completely lose their shit.
>>67872556
>20 people think he is divine
what's the big deal?
>>67872556
And do what exactly? He's literally stronger then every other human on earth. What the fuck are they gonna do to him "Hey stop saving people, you asshole"?
>>67872519
>What message did the drowing horses story send to him?
Superman daydreamed that because he was wrecked by guilt thanks to all the people he couldn't save. He was feeling responsible for everything: the people that consider him their personal savior, the people that he couldn't save on time, the people that died because of him and so on. So he daydreamed that and the answer is basically that he can't control things, not completely. There will always be some unforeseen consequence.
How do you guys have trouble understanding such simple scenes?
>>67871488
Japanese people also have no concept of what a good story is. Just watch any anime, JRPG, etc.
>>67872667
>And do what exactly? He's literally stronger then every other human on earth.
The impact would be huge. Not only socially, but politically and spirituality. Clark wasn't ready to bear such a thing yet.
>>67871488
schultz didn't sacrifice himself. he fucked it up and put django and his wife in danger again
>>67872556
Dude, it's easy as fuck. He's go damn Superman. In the chaos in confusion, no one is going to notice him missing for a couple of seconds as he runs around, grabs his daddy and a car, takes him to safety, gives him a few bruises and bangs up the car, and runs back.
Attribute it to a god damn miracle and no one will suspect a thing.
>>67871488
Why did they have an axe in space though?
Is that moral duty ?
>>67871488
CLARK YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SELF SACRIFICE THAT BUSLOAD OF INNOCENT CHILDREN
>>67872843
>Attribute it to a god damn miracle and no one will suspect a thing.
They already thing that Clark is a divine child or something. They would go apeshit.
>>67872925
At no point would Clark be seen. He does shit like this all the God damn time
>>67873024
>He does shit like this all the God damn time
Not in the movie.
>>67872847
>>67872876
kek
>>67872028
>>67873176
Kek
>>67871488
>all the american military bases still in Japanese territories
Now be good little fuckbois and get back to making them drones for us
>>67871488
japaneses know they are better dead.
>>67872408
Lol japs love their dogs. They would understand
It's easy to see what's trying to be conveyed in the scene, the problem with it is that it feels utterly contrived and shoehorned. And the end result is a Superman that isn't sure he wants to be the boyscout that tries to save everyone, AKA the Superman that everyone is familiar with.
>>67873479
>And the end result is a Superman that isn't sure he wants to be the boyscout that tries to save everyone, AKA the Superman that everyone is familiar with.
He's just scared for failing his father in death as he failed him in life, and scared of the world.
>>67871612
It does. It's not about necessity, it's about duty.
>>67872696
>How do you guys have trouble understanding such simple scenes?
Because movies have gotten consistantly less challenging and thought provoking over the last two decades.
Plus the rise of the internet lets people google the meaning of things in films, rather than thinking about it and figuring it out for themselves.
>>67871522
Yes, spoken by a true asshole who has never read a Superman Comic Ever. You know, shit head, there are a great many of us that was underwhelmed by the Original Superman because it felt, underwhelming. Man of Steel was superman, finally, done right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFLJFl7ws_0
3 years ago, /tv/ was shitting on this scene and the film in general as another bad cape shit film.
Now it's a misunderstood art film with powerful themes that can't be appreciated by the common folk.
