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finale is out
>>67863347
I was slightly dissapointed.
>>67863347
Does the universe get assploded?
I'm only on episode 4 and I need a reason to continue and it's boring aftbh
>>67863347
I cried
Can we put Sarah Gadon in all the movies?
I'm fine with pornographic ones as long as its light lesbianism
james franco is unwatchable
I didn't understand whyThe world became Fallout when Kennedy wasnt assassinated. Kennedy camps wtf??
Otherwise it was one of the best things ive seen in awhile 10/10
The first episode had me interested.
Then it just went pants on fucking head retarded and dumb.
Also Franco is garbage
>>67863347
The show went to shit after he he killed Harry's dad. Dropped it after episode 5.
>>67863776
>Also Franco is garbage
faggot
>i'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
cried like a little bitch
>>67863728
Kennedy would've antagonized the Soviets and made WW3 go boomboom
i guess? the show kind of cops out and doesn't explain shit. any bookfags in here?
does waifu survives ????
>>67864388
In the book Jake Epping caused earthquakes accross the world by saving JFK. Years later they only got stronger, everything near San Andreas is lost, and nuclear accidents happened, crushing the USA, the world and most likely the universe, no WWIII involved.
The Greencard dialogue sounded cool though, I wonder why they left that in the series finale.
>>67864617
I havent seen the finale yet. Do they have a nuclear war instead of earthquakes?
I didnt like the books ending. Earthquacks outta nowhere.
I was also slighty sad tk see no Derry in the show.
>>67864948
Everything looks like fallout, Al's diner is gone, Harry Dunning lives like a badass survivor, but they don't develop that much the alternate present.
>>67863514
I actually cried like 3 times in the last 15 minutes
So who the fuck was that hobo looking guy following Franco everywhere?
Was he like an alternate version of Epping that didn't go back to the future and spent the rest of his life trying to save his waifu?
>>67865818
I assume you are talking about Yellow Card Guy
In the book he was kind of a "lost traveller" and sort of a guardian of the portal, if I'm not mistaken
And I think there were more of them, one commited suicide
>>67866086
ah fair enough, does the ending in the book resemble the tv adaptation at all?
>>67866067
yeah I too saw the episode
Was ep 7 shit to anyone else? I liked the whole thing but that one just felt so slow and drawn out. Maybe it's that amnesia plots are so old and soapy but that one felt light and 8 felt overfull imo
Wish there was more Yellow Card stuff like in the book
bruh
>>67864617
havent read the entire book. Jake is only now looking into the relation between Oswald & General walker assassination attempt.
>mfw im 500 pages into the book and its just now starting to get JFK related.
jesus christ this Stephen King guy likes to digress.
this should've gotten 10 episodes, finale felt like 2 episodes in one, didn't quite work.
I'm devastated and heartbroken
Somebody post the webm
>>67867740
This
any similar films or mini-series to this? I loved every episode, guess I'm a sucker for romantic 60's
>>67867686
Guess it's your first king book. Digression is basically what he does best, he's good at building worlds, settings, tone, characters, etc. But his plots can fall flat towards the climaxes which is something he freely admits
Why didn't they just shoot to miss at the president in the first place? That would scare him off then they could leave an anonymous tip to the police afterwards
>>67863347
Franco should leave his fingers from my pure aryan waifu
>>67867963
Yeah it is, just recently started reading English literature in English (not my native language) after i absolutely loved McCarthy and Matheson.
>>67868083
King has a library of good books, but his greatest works tend to be his "short" stories (some are still like 100-200 pages long). I'd definitely recommend his short story collections (Night Shift, Skeleton Crew, Nightmares and Dreamscapes, etc.).
As for novels, some of his best are The Stand (though it's like 1500 pages), Misery, The Mist, Pet Sematary, The Long Walk, and Road Work.
Also, if you love McCarthy, try Hemingway. The Sun Also Rises and A Farewell to Arms are fantastic places to start.
Where does this rank among King adaptations?
>>67863347
i fucking hate james franco so much
>>67868363
mmkay thanks, i'll look into Hemingway.
>>67865818
They're kinda like MIB or bald dudes from Fringe, looking over time loops, but since Al kept jumping basically every day - their minds get all fucked up. I don't remember much, but i think every one of these time jumps Al did created a different parallel reality and there's like thousand of them because of that
>>67866175
It's exactly like the book ending
>>67868726
yeah when sadie got shot i cringed at his lifeless acting
>>67869104
yeah i agree, i really didnt have an opinion on him and i actually enjoyed his performance in the first episodes, but his reaction there was pretty bad.
>>67863347
enjoyed it.
>>67863347
>yellow card man wasn't a time cop trying to ensure an alternate past where Kennedy is assassinated created by his employers/government to ensure they come to power isn't unfucked by Franko
>>67863347
also, where did this qt patootie come from ?
darn-it she is absolutely adorable.
Would have gone back and saved my waifu. She seemed down with him all dirty and insane so it would have been easy to win her back.
>>67869400
IF YOU LOOK AT MY WAIFU AGAIN I'LL KILL YOU
I really enjoyed this series.
11-22-63 is one of the few King books Ive not read, but I could sense the Kingisms in the show, seems like its was likely a pretty good adaptation of the book.
The basic story arc is simple enough for 8 eps. The period settings & wardrobe are excellent. Acting was about as good as you can hope for in a King adaptation. All in all, it was fine work.
Among the best of the King stuff (shining/misery/shawshank/standbyme), imo better than any of the made-for-tv adaptations, including the stand & it.
Also, Sarah Gadon was perfect. She was good in Enemy, but she was ideal casting for this role.
>>67869470
"Time" in the book and even more so in tv series is kinda like Death in Final Destination films - it doesn't like to be disturbed and will do anything to change it back. They would've never survived together.
>>67870064
>she was ideal casting for this role
Nah, Elizabeth Debicky is a perfect casting, she was supposed to be REALLY tall.
>>67863728
> I didn't understand why The world became Fallout when Kennedy wasnt assassinated.
Because Steven King is a shitty writer who doesn’t know jack shit about history, so he just went with the standard “everything goes to shit because!” meme and also of course, the “you can’t change history” meme…
I’ll watch this series once I can download all the episodes but the first time I heard of it, I knew it was going to be predictable crap.
I expectedsadie to die. But I wasn't prepared for all these feelings to this extent. I loved this show.
Had a good pilot and 10/10 waifu bait.
Originally I thought this was going to be a web of conspiracies, cause and effect, butterfly effect shit but it was just 6 episodes of spying on Lee Harvey Oswald
Franco is so damn uncharismatic in this, zero chemistry with Sadie, his emotions were so placid, he always seem to have a smug grin on even when he realizes he will never be with the love of his life
>>67866067
I don't get it?
What am I supposed to be keking at?
>>67868684
In the top tier. Sadie made this series, and carries it.
>>67870319
The autism of that poster
>>67870230
>she was supposed to be REALLY tall.
had that been a crucial plot point, sure
Any post-apoc scenes?
>>67870272
but you can change history in this story - it was changed
the meme is: 'everything happens for a reason' or 'any changes to history only make things worse overall' or some bullshit like that
Apparently the book resorts to rampant earthquakes (timequakes?). Some manner of geopolitical coldwar shitstorm resulting in a nuclear war would have been more interesting in a Man in the High Castle sort of alternate future. A shame that bit of the story never got fleshed out.
King is actually a pretty good writer, but his plots are usually simplistic and he's not great at pacing. His ability to create interesting characters, settings and themes is what has led to his ridiculous success.
>>67870468
A few in the final episode. But it basically just looks like Detroit.
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>>67870468
Like this?
>>67870693
Niiiiccee ty
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>>67864473
Sort of.
>>67870272
did you not even pay attention? G Wallace and Cold War obviously. Combined with JFK still being around. Makes perfect sense
>>67864948
the earthquakes happened because it was the universe/dimension itself stuttering and shitting bricks due to the huge changes happening because of all the time travel shenanigans. it wasnt just "earthquakes randomly happen because jfk lived"
>>67871457
Its a complete cop out. Fuck King.
>>67868363
Hemingway and McCarthy are polar opposites in terms of writing style.
I tried reading All the Pretty Horses right after For Whom the Bell Tolls, and it was a huge mistake. Hemingway is the epitome of terse, action-oriented writing, whereas you'd have to be an English professor to get through McCarthy without consulting a dictionary at least once.
>>67870689
>Some manner of geopolitical coldwar shitstorm resulting in a nuclear war would have been more interesting in a Man in the High Castle sort of alternate future
You mean like Curtis LeMay becoming president and starting WW3, which is exactly what happened in the books, you fucking mong?
>>67871676
You dun goofed. I'm backtracing you
CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME
>>67871813
Never read the books - but people who have keep referencing earthquakes and not ww3.
So.... okay?
>>67870689
> but you can change history in this story - it was changed
Yes, in the most retarded fashion; Kennedy isn’t assassinated = planetary earthquakes!
Then like all time travel / alt-history movies, the hero goes back and resets history to the original timeline.
Wow, it’s fucking nothing….
>>67870947
> did you not even pay attention?
I haven’t even started watching, I’m waiting until I have the whole season.
>>67871814
Stop lying to your self. King is too much of a pussy to ever say that the world would have been better if JFK wasn't assassinated so he comes up with this weak bullshit so he can continue selling this shitty books to all the stupid fucking ameriturds.
>>67871867
>jeez i just don't know what I'm talking about ok! dont criticize me for blasting words out of my ass!
>ice cream date
>>67871676
how is it a cop out when its established that all the going back in time shit is fucking up the space time continuum or whatever? in the book the yellow card guys try to warn him and end up spread so thin by being multiplied into too many parallel universes that they end up all retarded and insane.
>letting a pure aryan waifu go just like that
>>67872185
You don't try to tackle a plot of such interest such as the JFK assassination and then shoe horn this sci-fi if you fuck with the past it will fuck you back mess. If it was some bullshit time travel about something no one gave a fuck about then you can do whatever you want with it but the JFK assassination is one of the most argued about events possibly ever. I am not even saying the book should have tried to piece together who exactly killed the man but considering the subject of the novel, this ending left a lot to be desired. Its as if King used this tragedy as bait to sell more books because he doesn't give a true and fair representation of what the book was supposed to do, what life would have been like if JFK lived
>>67872185
The space time continuum or whatever is the cop-out and allows the story to follow the predictable path; history get fucked up for no discernible reason forcing the hero goes back and reset history to the original timeline.
If you're going to do an alternate history story, it helps if you actually know some history so you can avoid doing the same lame thing as everybody else who doesn't know shit about history.
Either that, or just skip the historical stuff and get on with the story (as in The Man In The High Castle).
>>67872014
>you will never have ice cream with Jake
There's a reddit post in the stickied discussion thread in /r/112263Hulu that goes over the details of the new future and why stuff is messed up that's from the book
>>67863631
I tried watching the first episode but Franco was still playing that wisecracking character who delivers his lines like a pothead
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>>67868684
Better than the adaptations of The Stand and It, so pretty high.
>>67864948
>I was also slighty sad tk see no Derry in the show.
No Takuro Spirit either.
I get more screen time than Chris Cooper!
>>67863347
10/10 mini-series
>>67874091
The only thing 10 /10 in it is Gadon.
It was nice, had a great start, but it all went downhill after the first two episodes.
>>67865692
Me too but I'm a girl on my peroid.
>>67874391
Is that the old man? Yes he was good. After he died the show turned to shit.
>>67874563
Nah, the waifu.
But fair enough, Chris Cooper was pretty great too.
This was great fuck you niggers that didn't like it.
It had a theme, it stuck to it. It had King bullshit weird tangents because its a King adaptation, From a Buick 8 had five chapters before the car even gets there.
The whole point was the story of Jake trying to fix things that he knows can't be fixed. He spends the show trying to hold onto his idea of reality and fighting to keep things the way he wants them. It doesn't really matter the specific cause of the apocalypse, all that mattered was that Jake knew he fucked up.
He meets Harry in the altfuture who tells him just how much he fucked up and he didn't even do well by saving him from retardation. So he cancels what he did but still isnt sure until he meets future Sadie and realizes that he should just roll with life and it'll work itself out optimally
Favorite King book and favorite TV adaptationexcept the first parts of dark tower
>>67875266
but 3 years of his life thrown down the rabbit hole
>>67875458
way more than that in the book
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>>67875266
>>67875458
>>67875480
Meh, he gets off pretty easy and learns a valuable life lesson. The guys in From a Buick 8 don't even learn anything and get teleported to another dimension to be eaten by monsters.
For a King book 10ish years of your life is a happy ending
https://youtu.be/4JHPTHLWubk
>>67875585
Is this an ironic m'lady or a thumbs up?
>>67875285
>kept my filename
What a guy!
>>67875285
Muhheart.
>>67875608
he met a love of his life, broke off completely clean (not that this is a good thing, but at least it's clean) and is probably super appreciative of a lot of modern stuff he might've taken for granted before.
He also basically got to live without financial stress for years due to knowing all the bets.
He could easily make himself rich in the present too if he wanted to. Just go buy a bunch of gold in the past and bring it with you. Or try some banking accounts but I don't know how that would pan out 50 years later
I liked it. :)
franco: man of murder
>>67863514
>>67865692
I did, too. I think it's because Sarah Gadon is goddess more than anything else
So where is the webm with Gadon cute pink nipples from Maps to the Stars? I know one of you faggots must've done it already.
franco is terrible, I don't get why he's famous
>>67876042
Because he's recognizable and consistently average. Most people don't poke that many holes in the fact that he cries like shit
>>67875285
>>67875667
I'm pretty sure i made this webm originally i should have watermarked it
Where were you guys three weeks ago no one was talking about this show
>>67876042
I think Franco is a pretty okay guy. He has that likability about him as a person that makes me happy to see him on screen regardless of his acting.
>>67876306
I actually cut down your original webm to nix Franco
>>67871881
>Yes, in the most retarded fashion; Kennedy isn’t assassinated = planetary earthquakes!
you dumb nigger Kennedy isn’t assassinated = they know for sure the russians were behind it = war against Russia and bombs and shit
I read that the earthquakes were caused by the divergent time streams. The more into the future it went (more divergent), the more severe the earthquakes became.
>>67876306
I was avoiding /tv/ threads because I didn't want to get spoiled
>>67872185
The ironic thing is The Dark Tower seriesessentially ends the same wayby resetting back to somewhere before book 1 at the endand it was so shit King asked readers not to read it kek
>>67876450
I guess I should have been worried about it, but a.) I don't care about spoilers, it's the journey that counts and b.) literally no one cared enough to spoil anything.
was there any scenes in the series that had references to IT? was Shawshank mentioned in the series, I remember a bunch of references to other King's works in the book.
>>67873307
Please tell me that's not what the destroyed world looks like.
Why the fuck is that second story all nice with drapes and shit
>>67876503
>TFW you're still fucking pissed off that you read the entire fucking Dark Tower series
It's especially irritating because I like a lot of King's other long rambling books, but JESUS CHRIST the fucking Dark Tower. Wasn't just the ending, either. Most of the story was a pain in the dick too, it's just the kick in the balls end was the cherry on top.
>>67872541
All liberal baby boomers like King think the world would be roses if JFK was not assassinated. They're addicted to the idea of Great Men™ but King decided to fuck with expectations by making the world a shitstorm.
>>67876749
Thats lewd, throw a black bar over that nipple
>>67876707
It was great, only issue is the earthquakes werent his fault
If this was truthful, he would've found out that she married a big dick nigger, become a bra burning hippie and shit out a dozen children on welfare.
>>67877800
she lived in a small town in texas, not your mother's house
>>67863514
Jackie Kennedy thanking him for saving them got me choked up.
Franco is a jew, yuck
he should genocide himself
>>67877899
You first
Just watched this all at once and it was really good. What was with that shit with Sadie's ex though? It seemed really pointless and out of place. Was it in the book?
>>67878319
I still don't understand the deal with the clothespin on his dick? What the fuck
>>67878392
just a messed up and sexually repressed dude
the clothespin would keep him flaccid
>>67878319
>What was with that shit with Sadie's ex though? It seemed really pointless and out of place. Was it in the book?
Yeah, blame SK for that. In the book, there's no clothespin but he's a really nihilist and OCD, never consummated the marriage and put a broom between them in bed.
King can't write tight structured narrative, he has to put these sideshows in or the book seems even more full of filler than it already is.
Thankfully the show's scar is much smaller. In the book he goes full Joker on her, dyed hair and all, and leaves one side of her face lopsided forever.
I liked it. It introduced me to Sarah Gadon and for that I'm grateful. Also Josh Duhamel and that guy from Grey's Anatomy turned in decent performances. Bill was a pointless waste of time and that marble mouthed Oswald was annoying tho.
>>67872014
*grabs him by the throat*
BACK THE FUCK OFF?!?!?!!?!
>>67875630
I really did enjoy this series. It wasn't half bad.
Tbh Sadie made the series. Without her, it's shit. Whomever that qt tis, I hope she gets some bigger roles.
>this song
It's great, perfect for the show. I need to pick up the novel now.
>>67876704
>>67876503
fuck m8s, I want to start the dark tower series. Just tell me the ending now please. Why is it shite?
>>67879559
Yes the song was much better in the novel
>>67879619
time loop -> reset -> back to the start, try again
>dont forget the horn
>>67879623
I do love how in most Kings books he throws in some Song lyrics.
Haven't read the book yet anon, but it might be in there.
Here's your (you)
>>67864268
This. People shitting on Franco but he did great in that scene with the janitor.
Why are period pieces so comfy
>>67880092
Because we are past the peak.
>>67863347
I don't remember seeing this scene in the show, is it just a mock up for promos?
>>67880540
Isn't that the picture he looks at longingly when she stops talking to him after hearing the tape?
>>67880675
Yep.
>>67880497
>tumblr.gif
Just finished the last episode.
Show really sucked. It was good up until episode 5. Maybe it's the book that sucks, I never read it. Can't blame the show, blame the source I guess. Really stupid that nothing is accomplished at the end. Literally the entire show was a waste of time. He just goes back and resets everything. Also they didn't use the same actress to play her at the end? Wtf. Wish I got my time back from watching this trash.
>>67881372
So are you saying you want everything to be undone ;)?
More seriously, I think the show is a bit of a bait and switch. I went in for JFK time travel shenanigans and it became a love story. Which is fine for me because Sadie was GOAT. I wondered how they would tackle the ending, but I did always expect it to get reset just because due to narrative convention I guessed that the changes to the future would end up terribly.
Halfway through, the ending I was expecting was Jake bringing Sadie to the future with him resetting the past. I knew that the time travel rules allowed for stuff to be duplicated given how the guy always brought back meat from the same butcher in the past.
I had low expectations after Under the Dome gutted my faith in humanity, but it was definitely a nice breath of fresh air.
Now if only The Stand or It could get this treatment so we're saved from the passably mediocre adaptations we've got.
>>67881557
>It
i was so looking forward to cary fukinagwa's adaptation. they are still making it, but im not sure who is directing
>>67882998
>tfwywn LITERALLY eat her
Screw JFK, I wanted more of this...
>>67883967
DELETE THIS
>>67863459
Heres a rundown.
>Jake saves the president but Sadie gets shot, dies.
>Goes back to 2016
>Everything is blown to shit. IRL Fallout.
>Runs into Janitor guy he saved back in 2016
>Janitor guy tells him Kennedy was a good guy president but Wallace was elected president after him.
>Talks about riots and bombs being dropped in 1975, implies world war 3 happened.
>Jakes nopes the fuck out of there and goes back to 1960 to reset the present and to keep fucking Sadie.
>Homeless guy with the yellow card shows up and tells him he's stuck in his own loop meaning she'll die regardless if he interferes with the past.
>Jake decides not keep fucking Sadie and gives up on trying to save Kennedy/changing history.
>Jakes depressed as fuck because he wasted 3 years of his life for nothing. Googles Sadies name.
>She's a mayor in Jodie, Texas and Jake decides to go see his old blast from the past.
>Sadie is a GILF now and she's being honored for her service to Jodie by her old students at some big banquet they setup.
>Show ends with Jake giving her the "fuck me" eyes while they slow dance to a song.
So yeah, kinda lame ending.
>>67870689
I wish collabaroting was more common in fiction writing. Would be cool if King had someone by his side giving depth to his worlds. On the other hand I wish it was less common in TV.
I caught two Steven King Easter Eggs during the final episode.
Randall Flagg riding a bike.
REDRUM written on the wall during the book depository scene.
>>67884799
I missed flagg on a bike - when in the episode?
>>67884961
Near the beginning at 57:25
Jake almost knocks him off his bike.
>>67885141
... wat. Is he wearing his pins or anything, 'cause otherwise I'm not sure how you're getting Flagg out of that.
>>67885141
wearing the same canadian tuxedo & mullet from the tv adaptation of the stand
>good catch
>>67885203
Because it's out of place for 1960.
The whole growing your hair out thing didn't catch on until the 70s.
>>67870272
fucking retard, it had nothing to do with "knowing history" or memes about time traveling.
the point is that sometimes things don't need to all be okay and bad shit needs to happen for the world and people to grow and even be happy.
there's more than that as well, but it's basically about the human condition numbnuts, not fucking history.
>>67876584
does the world going to shit means someone goes around ripping down the drapes?
>>67885299
It is out of place, but just a bit of an anachronism (And not one that would be impossible) seems like a bit of a stretch to say it's the Walkin' Dude. On a bike. Not walking. ANONNNNNNN
>>67870849
Was she always in the car? I mean the actress, I don't remember seeing her in the first episode. That's kinda neat if she was there all the time
>>67885560
not the same girl in the car the whole time
just the last time
>your
Fucking really?
>spends three years changing history
>decides to reset after talking to a drunk inbred for 3 minutes
I think i would have looked into things a little more
>>67885724
USA USA was bombed to pieces, what more is there to consider
>>67880497
Why does this look CGIish
>>67863347
I cried like a little bitch during the second part of the finale.
>>67863347
So is it any different from the book?
>>67886081
no except for the yellow card man
>>67875285
my waifu
>>67885693
i was wondering when someone was going to point that out. i never really read a lot of king's books so i would think it's some kind of nod to something.
>>67885724
agreed, i don't see why he didn't simply go look for a library and read up on history. that was his entire fucking goal.
damn man i didnt ask for these feels now, my waifu sadie is gone, but at least she got her award
>ywn fuck old Sadie and make her feel like a young woman again
Why even live?
i didn't know it was based on a book, i washoping for multiple seasons where at the start of the season he always has to reset. kinda disappointed
>>67884281
Almost the same as the book, close enough I guess. But still after a while shit got boring.
For a 'you can't fuck with the past' kind of story it didn't do it well enough. The level of 'push back' didn't make sense. He mad massive fucking changes and could have left after shoving the roommate it the psych ward. What I'm getting at is the push back was purely for drama rather than trying to fuck his shit up all day every day.
He should have gotten past cancer way before he saved Kenny.
>>67863347
Just started to marathon the finale with my wifes son. I hope this thread is still around when I finished it in roughly 2 weeks.
>>67887247lee tries to kill kennedy
What was the sudden motivation last episode to kill Kenedy?
Just chilling in the park, and suddenly 'hey killing Kenedy is the best thing to show em what I can do!'. Until that shot Epiphany he never wanted to do this, and the shit that pushed him over was being paranoid. I'm not versed enough in US politics at the time to know why killing him would serve Oswald's 'marx agenda', he even gave them a fucking letter.
Was the russian wife basically a mail order bride from the get go? They seemed like they were into each other at the airport, but then /something/ happened once they came to America, be it he had no money, it wasn't magical happy land like she expected (basically a gold digging bitch that wanted a green card).
Why don't more people find the 'portal'. There were 3 randoms right the fuck there attacking him.
>>67887382
Lee beat his wife, which is why she left him
>>67886081
It's a lot more compact and refined than the book.
The book starts two years before Jake even learns about the Rabbit Hole, for example.
>>67887488
They probably do but they get fucked by time.
>not waiting a year and killing Sadie's psycho husband when she runs away from him
>not killing Harry's dad
>>67884281
But is there a reason why can't go back in time and fugg her without saving Kennedy?
Most of the questions in this thread are taken care of in the book.
>Not going back again
This is explained by the yellow card man - every time you go back, you create a new timeline and make reality more unstable. Thus going back could result in the world being torn apart.
>why apocalypto world
I found a full list directly from the book somewhere. I can post it if people want it.
Also
>the last 15 minutes
>try not to cry
>cry a lot
>Episodes 1-7 - good
>Episode 8 - story full of holes and junk, only thing that saved it was qt sadie
>>67888993
gr8 b8
what holes?
>>67888993
>Didn't research history of what happened
>Should of saved Harry from his dad
>Should of experimented with the past to try and save sadie or at least bring her to the future
there would be more but i can't think of them at the moment
>>67889181
>>Should of saved Harry from his dad
Harry pretty much asked him not to.
>>67863347
>you'll never be an american in '60s with qt wife
feels bad man
I'm in real trouble, guys. I can't get her out of my mind. She's a glistening jewel of elegance whose sparkle has me captivated. Her southern belle from Toronto act is driving me mad.
I've had waifus before, sure, just like any red blooded man. This is different. This is like next level stuff. It ain't fair that she can steal my heart through a screen without recourse. It's not fucking fair, man.
>>67890039
feels awful 2bh
Agrias shield worth upgrading tier with rosetta?
>>67890800
only the first episode is good: the show
>but muh sadie
fucking pathetic waifufags
>>67891203
If anything only the second episode of the show is good.
>>67863347
>11.22.63
read the book, the ending was fucking awful, just like under the dome.
Did the ending suck for both of the TV adaptations?
>>67887175
I love King - I mean embarassingly so - but everything since the accident has been varying degrees of meh to shit (Just After Sunset/EE has a few good stories in them ("That Feeling...") and I wasn't let down by DTVII).
Stein's Gate (I know anime is verboten here) is a much better time travel story, and specifically dealing with everything you mention here.
>>67890741
you'll get over her and find a new one
>>67891723
She has a quiet serene beauty that is rare in any era, much less the current gunked up slutty period. Honestly, it's weird why she hasn't gotten any traction, she looks fantastic and her acting doesn't seem to be a problem at all. Must be the Hollywood nepotism barrier.
>>67863514
That ending has me bawling.
The amnesia part was annoying and a lot of Oswald that just didn't need to be there, but damn if that last dance didn't have me crying when he still saw her as her younger self.
>>67863514
gay
>>67863459
if you think its boring just don't watch it.
>>67869104
I thought Sadie's acting when she was shot was kind of more life-less, and I don't mean to make a pun by the fact she was dying. She kind of fell flat a few times.
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>>67876565
REDRUM
>>67892493
>a lot of Oswald that just didn't need to be there,
>Cutting out the man who unintentionally saved the world
huwut
>>67870272
he said memes xDDD
>>67892668
There was a lot of just Oswald doing nothing, it seemed. His shouting always seemed nonsensical, though I guess it goes with what Jake said to the Feds, we'll never know why Oswald did it. I dunno, I felt Oswald could have had more depth.
I thought through the whole series that either Sadie would die and Jake would reset and live happily ever after with her after realising she was the point of his existence in the past, or he'd take her back to the future.
The ending was so much better than I expected.
It started out GOOD then it totally went to absolute fucking shit
>>67885560
they never show too much on her, you can barely see her face, maybe it was another actress.
best new tv series of 2016 so far
>>67888403
It was implied that his interference with the past would always lead to her death
>>67893318
In the book, it's more the problem that the butterfly effects he's making create resonance problems even after a reset. It's really just King trying to shut the narrative down.
Would have been better if the last 20 minutes had it's own episode, then you could have a less rushed ending.
>Jake goes back to the future and sees the consequences of his actions, so he decides to try and save Sadie over and over again until he's an old man, at which point he gives up and finds her in the present and dances with her.
That could have been a whole episode.
>>67892867
Horace and Pete > American Crime Story > 11.22.63
dropped this shit after the 2nd episode.
shit all over king's best book. changing his car to yellow is the moment i shut this shit off
>>67888191
in the book jake first killed harrys dad as a test and then went back to 2016 to find out harry died in vietnam then went back to 1958 and started over
but that's why he didn't even if it wasn't stated in the show
>>67888993
>save sadie or at least bring her to the future
Is it possible to bring someone into the future? Did that happen in the book?
Who else had to spank it to granny porn today? Be honest.
>>67863514
Me too, a couple times.
>all these people trying to claim Sadie as their waifu
Lads... i called dibs ages ago. Sorry.
>>67879745
But it's hinted at through out the series that Roland has been on his quest for an untold amount of time, and not just because time has gone soft.
I didn't mind the ending that much. I especially liked seeinga happy life for the other members of the tet
>>67896312
That's not how it works. She picks you and if she wants to pick all those anons thats her right.
>>67895710
I don't remember. i have a faint recollection of jake and sadie at least heading to maine but then again it's been like 5 years since i read the book. i figure bringing people over is a gray area like when you go there you create a new world line so if another person went in after jake had been in for 60 seconds irl time which would be an unknown amount of time like even a few years(say 1960) then you would of course end up in a different 1958
also If when you turn back right after you got to 1960 is it still 2 minutes later if you were only gone for 5 seconds? you could pass time like 20 times quicker like if you could step in and out in 5 seconds in 2 minutes you could have passed 40 minutes of irl time and if you did this for years you would age slower compared to other people and that would be pretty cool
Why didn't Sadie remember Jake from when he showed up in the diner and went all stalker on her? He went back to 2016 after that but didn't go through again to reset it.
>>67886021
Me too. The scene with Franco and Sadie outside the soda shop brought the feels. Hell pretty much any scene with Sadie in the finale did it.
So could Jake have just alerted the Secret Service to avoid the Dealey Plaza route?
>>67896457
maybe she did maybe she didn't. he met jake for like 2 minutes 58 years ago
iirc in the book jake reset the whole thing and when she danced with old sadie she said he looks familiar like if she had some sort of connection or subconscious memories from the different timelines
>Watch Rushmore Sunday night. Ends at maudlin, comfy school dance. Cry
>Finish 11.22.63 last night. Ends at maudlin, comfy school dance. Cry.
I wish. that. I knew what i know now. when i was younger :(
>>67870693
literally Detroit. Im pretty sure thats the building where I-75 and I-94 meet. To be fair though that could be atleast 15 other building in or around Detroit.
>>67876306
its safe to assume they were in capeshit threads. the same can be said about The Magicians though everyone who missed out on really cares about OTD tits
I feel like re-watching the show just for her. I haven't been this infatuated with an actress since Yvonne in Chuck.
>>67892867
It's not a TV series it was a miniseries, not like it can be renewed
>>67897010
I keep thinking how she would have made a great Khaleesi.
>>67869104
i laughed so hard at his "acting"
Serious question.
Why didn't Jake just kill Oswald and return to the future to confirm if he's the assassin or not?
>He didn't want to risk killing an innocent man.
Yea, uh, that only works if you ignore the fact he can RESET Oswald's death in the case of him actually being innocent. Jake could have killed everyone in Dallas, one by one, resetting and checking as he goes, until he found the right person that gave the desired future. I mean, you didn't even have to worry about the Kennedy assassination at all honestly.
So killing Oswald and saving Kennedy didn't work out. Maybe killing some random jackass on the street changes the world for the better. Maybe nudging the market in the right direction avoids the recession in 2008. Maybe prevent some wars in Africa or the middle east. Why would you ever stop trying to improve the world with rock solid, reliable information on how to do so?
>Time always makes things worse if you fuck with the past!
Sounds like a quitter's excuse to me.
On that note, hilariously unbelievable usage of a time portal that resets. First guy in that shit would be running the world and living out groundhog day fantasies until he died of cancer.
>>67870693
man fuck you anon in baiting people to watch it
literally 5min of Detroit with a filter is not worth watching this mess
i still watched it for the waifus obviously
>>67885693
holy fuck this made me REEEEEEEEEE so hard
>>67892569
Tbh that's how it looks like. Combination of shock, adrenaline, blood loss, and whatever else is going on internally. Dying rarely looks composed.
>>67897197
oswald only got back to america in like 1962 and through the portal jake arrives in 1958 so that's 4 years completely wasted if it's the wrong person if he just goes kills him to check in the future
>>67869104
at the finale the Janitor was killing Franco twice
>>67897197
Oswald was in the Soviet Union from October 1959 to June 1962. That's a perfect excuse that basically allows this story to even be possible (and even then, King has to burn some months away with fucking amnesia). So, you kill Oswald at the first opportunity and if you're wrong, you gotta wait 2-3 more years. The prudent thing to do is to spend a while making sure, with is what Jake tries, but of course you can still kill Oswald way before. 11.22.63 if you're not suffering from fucking amnesia....
>>67897162
Holy fuck no, I don't want to see her assblasted by mongrels, let Sarah Conner deal with that.,,
It was a great mini series.
I don't understand the hate on James, I like him.
>>67899018
>I don't understand the hate on James, I like him.
It's just that he's a meme here. He was great, really understated.
how do I get a qt gf like sadie?
>>67899559
>Don't be ugly
>Don't be poor
>Don't be a dyel manlet
>Be confident and charismatic
>Go back in time to the 1960s where it was easier to pick up women
>>67899204
literally find more talent in one photo
>>67897317
>implying idiots that tag walls can spell
>>67899763
i just want a qt gf to love each other with
>>67900033
It isn't hard if you try Dick...
Just finished.
First TV series I've ever cried at desu.tfw you will never have such a beautiful passionate relationship as Jake and Sadie
I'm still confused why he took Sadie along to stop Oswald. How would her presence help things? He should have thought of the possibility of her getting shot.
>>67863347
>save Kennedy
>he turns into Hitler
Bravo Franco
Bravo JJ
Bravo King
I think this is the first time a show got me teary eyed.
>that beautiful ending
step aside plebs, patrician coming through:
this miniseries was some nice little fix for the all too common post Mad Men depression among us privileged /tv/ posters
id say that visually it was en par and it made me go in a trance like state just staring in scenery, places, cars, people
story wise it was weak like you would expect from a King novel (I read that shit in my teens and was cringing at the plebishness back then already)
I like Franco, he looks and smiles really likeable, but thats just my personal opinion.
Lots of people criticized his wooden acting in the warehouse scene, but imo at that moment it really sinks in that history forces you to make big sacrifices when you try to change things. So he kinda just accepted the fact that this was the inevitable outcome and it made him somber, just how he later carried himself in the interogation and conversation with the spook.
Ill give it a 7/10
>>67903155
>nice little fix for the all too common post Mad Men depression among us privileged /tv/ posters
Agreed but American Crime Story has filled that niche nicely. Not nearly as good, but with similarly bravura performances and writing, as well as the retro vibe
>MUH MARINA
>>67903676
They really had no idea what they're doing with Bill.
>>67863728
Kennedy stays 8 years and continues pushing civil rights really hard. the centrist americans tired of black rights lean toward the right and elect george wallace. wallace is absolutely batshit (think like pat buchanan, david duke, and the guy from the dead zone all in one) and starts a nuclear war with russia.
>>67903805
also the kennedy camps are post presidency kennedy trying to help people and keep the country together during the war
>>67902818
Are you retarded?
>>67903676
Very pleased when he killed himself.
>>67863347
Is this actually good senpai? Considering picking it up cause I finished all muh other shows.
>>67904351
Strong start, kinda deteriorates from there. 11 /10 waifu, though.
Give it a shot.
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Well I'll be...
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>>67905561
Is it her?
>>67905561
did you miss Christine in another scene?
>>67905594
looks it, yeah
i loved her too :(
>>67863347
>alone on a Friday night in 2016? God you're pathetic
>>67863514
cried at the book
cried at the finale
>>67905561
I went to look back as well, I'd say thats her for sure
>>67905561
looks like Kristen Schaal
I don't get why he just didn't go back in time, restart his relationship with Sadie and bring her back to the present with him. Ignore all the JFK shit and yellow card guy too. He was able to accomplish so much with time fighting him. I would have at least tried. Besides, the only reason she died was because of Oswald.
>>67907562
well it's not a big thing like the US president not being assassinated but taking sadie back to the future is still fucking with the timeline so idk but yeah he could have tried desu senpai
>>67907562
The Yellow Card man says it doesn't matter what Jake tries Sadie always dies in the end. Not sure if that also applies to present time as well as the past.
>>67907761
>Sadie always dies in the end
just like literally any other living bean
>>67907761
Everyone dies eventually. That's no reason to just give up.
Ok, this may be dumb but why was Yellow Card man trapped there, where in his loop was he? He failed to save his daughter and decided to end the loop? Live out his days as a hobo in the past, warning new time travelers?
>>67903738
this tb h. such a waste
>>67907833
It's not really explained in the book either, kinda annoying. Also how can TT's enter each others loop?
>>67907761
Yeah well Yellow Card man was a loser. He couldn't save ONE girl from drowning. While Jake had saved a family from being massacred and the president of the US.
>>67907833
the card men were like portal guardians. when jake kills harrys dad and goes back to the future and back in the portal the yellow card man slit his throat. and the next time there was a new card man with a green card
the guardians had to like keep in mind all the new world lines you create every time you step in it and eventually they go insane and become drunks and druggies and kill themselves
I really enjoyed the performance of the guy playing Oswald. Actually made me feel for him.
>it's a Jew pretends to be a wholesome white man episode
>>67903805
is this just a parallel to america right now then
>>67907668
Every Fat Burger sold was brought back from the past.
THIS FILM IS ABOUT GETTING LUNG CANCER FROM CIGARETTES.
SADIE = SADISTIC
DUNHILL = DUNHILL TOBACCO
THE FINAL MEETING IN THE PAST = I HAVE TO LET YOU GO = QUITTING CIGARETTES.
>>67908017
>Kennedy = Obama
>Wallace = Trump
BUILD WALL
>>67907971
Yep. Could have been cartoonish, instead it was actually "Damn, I kinda understand this weird little guy now."
>>67908109
OH SHIT YOU CRACKED THE CODE
that's pretty cool desu
>>67908297tfw everything is downhill
>>67863347
who here team mamushka
Why are the evil Jews removed from the story? Oh, yeah, the series was produced by them, they made this that they wouldn't implicate Jews,
>>67908804
Go jump out of a window or something.
>>67908804
Fuck off Bill.
>>67909904
Oswald was in the crowd watching.
>>67887488
wondering this myself as well
>>67889181
>Should of
>>67910017
ENHANCE
>let me just bring my fiance into this building where a guy with a gun is trying to murder the president i'm sure it will go over well
>>67897197
i would've just killed oswald regardless. even if he's innocent, he's collateral damage in the grand scheme of things. you just gotta be cold blooded, son
>>67907761
Yeah, too bad it doesn't even make sense based on the idiotic rule in the show with past not wanting to be changed, since Sadie isn't actually supposed to die prematurely in the first place, so her dying because of Jake is fucking with the past more than if she didn't die.
Or am I missing something?
>>67910471
The book was very different, hence my anger.
In the book the Jews beat Jake/George to a bloody pulp, he couldn't walk properly, so the premise for Sadie being there related to jake having a limp, she was there to help him.
In the book Jake had his spleen removed and knee practically broken.
In the TV version the Cowboys beat him up.
>>67905561
so was this fate? a fate made by "time"? or just a big huge coincidence that sadie happened to drive by the moment he popped out of the time portal into 1960 and then ends up becoming engaged to her in dallas?
What if the yellow card man is Jake Epping
Think about it....
>>67910597
Oy Vey! Was it really the Jews?
>>67907971
I liked what he did with the accent. And he's Australian, too. I don't often hear a real New Orleans accent in movies. Like fuck what they did with Costner in JFK.
If jake reset it and killed oswald wouldn't that mean ed would still be alive because he never went back and got cancer from "the past pushing back"
>>67908804
>those lips
>>67910760
Yeah, the main villain(who attacked Jake) was introduced in the TV version but never played a prominent part, his name was ROTH.
King portrayed the Jews as running the underground mafia whereas TV went out of its way to mention La Cosa Nostra
I just want to pop in here to tell everybody not to waste their time with King novels. He has interesting ideas and really enjoy his character/ world building but the man can't finish a story to save his life. Don't even try The Stand, which most consider his best book. It was great until the last third.
I do enjoy him masturbating all over the 50s and 60s though, admittedly.
>>67908804
Keep her, Bill. Sadie is all mine, and I'll kill anyone that tries to steal her.
>>67910846
>naming the Jews
How is King not bankrupt? Makes sense why it's not in the show though
>>67910214
I know, makes you cringe doesn't it
>>67885693
It's historically accurate because everyone was illiterate as fuark back then.
I would have gone back and reset every 3 years just for Sadie, you don't give up a woman like that
>>67911201
Jar Jar and Franco are Jews.
See >>67909152
She is so beautiful
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