Why did Hollywood stop making historical movies again?
>gladiator
>historical
kill yourself
>>67813005
trends are cyclical mate, they'll be back soon enough
>>67813033
yea it was actually sci-fi.
dumbass.
Speaking of historical, check out the resolution on that screen cap.
>>67813005
>dude's called "The Spaniard"
>at this time, Spain was called Iberia
>>67813063
i take it you thought 10,000BC and Aladdin were historical as well
>>67813005
Because Jews
Historical movies call to the heart of the Anglo. Jews know this so they supress our history and only give us historical movies that make us hate ourselves
>>67813063
Gladiator is a fantasy movie senpai.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ds054OF7hY
>>67813005
>historical movies
>gladiator
ultrakek
>>67813005
Because history was brutal and they try to make it politically correct.
>Kingdom of Heaven
>Hey guys, this Jerusalem place is great and all but it belongs to everyone
>Everyone agrees
>>67813097
I know right?
They speak English too! Even people in Britannia at the time didn't speak English.
>>67813097
It's almost as if they had to change some language and historical names to fit our current culture and allow the target audience to understand
>>67813631
lmao - well, it should be evident what hollywood thinks of your intelligence, as exemplified by OP's picture.
>"GERMANIA - PRESENT-DAY GERMANY
thanks you based ridley for clarifying.
>>67813631
>change some language and historical names to fit our current culture
>Hey guys! Slavery isn't cool, you know!
>>67813033
>>67813097
>>67813173
>>67813185
op here, i guess we deserve it. there will always be bunch of contrarian who will nitpic every reach for greateness for some minor flaws. you are equivalent of idiots who critize movie character for having different eyecolor than in book. But hey, let's make the seventh batman movie in this decade.
>>67813097
>at this time, Spain was called Iberia
Nope, it was called Hispania
>>67813935
>minor flaws
Did you even watch the video? There's so much wrong with 1 frame, the entire movie is riddled with inaccuracies.
>>67813935
>you are equivalent of idiots who critize movie character for having different eyecolor than in book. But hey, let's make the seventh batman movie in this decade.
the difference, faggot, is that our "contrarian" views are grounded in evidence, as shown above, whereas your mocking and rejection of us is based purely on assumption, irrelevant stereotypes, and emotive response.
you literally fail to make any sort of compelling argument besides spouting memes.
>>67814162
*tips fedora*
They haven't...they still are released fairly regularly.
>Why did Hollywood stop making historical movies
Uhhhhhhhh they make them every year.
>>67814292
>>67814314
there wasn't A-list historical movie since 2005
>>67814498
patently false
>>67813793
It could be present day Denmark, poland, Switzerland, Czechs republic etc desu
>>67814292
>>67814314
examples?
>>67813097
>badly wounded
>still rides from Germany to Spain in about a day
>>67814710
Has been pretty quiet since Kingdom of Heaven desu
>>67814498
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>>67814728
>denmark, switzerland
not in republic times, no. even poland is a stretch. the furthest they got into germania was germany.
>>67814770
The Eagle
Robin Hood
War Horse
Centurion
to name a few
>>67814728
why would they be fighting that far out? if anything they'd be closer to austria.
>>67814845
Thats the whole fucking point of how insanely hardcore he was, not only he was a general of a roman legion, he fucked the Gauls and won the war, but he rode all the way from Germania to Spain on two fucking horses, thats once of the reasons the 6 guys in the arena piss them self once he comes out
>>67814945
>the eagle
C list shit
>Robin Hood
Shit tier garbage
>war horse
Muh horses
>centurion
D list shit
Yes I am moving the goal posts
12 years a slave was historical
>>67815056
>he was so hardcore he rode his horses faster than a car
>>67814884
just because movie takes place in different timeline doesn't make it historical, fucking hunchback of notredame isnt a historical movie
>>67815143
eh?
>>67815143
wat
>>67815141
You don't think thats badass?
>>67815133
It's as historical as schindlers list or some other make believe fantasy shit
>>67815133
I've a suspicion muh slavery tier historical movies wasn't what OP was referrring to.
>>67815263
He should've started a chauffeur business
>>67815398
fucking kek m8
>>67815143
ke?
>>67815398
Wud watch tb.h
>>67814770
here are some just from the past 10 years, films that were nominated for Best Picture or were otherwise notable enough to show up on most lists about historical films from the last decade.
The Revenant
Brooklyn
Bridge of Spies
Trumbo
The Danish Girl
Carol
The Imitation Game
12 Years a Slave
Les Miserables
Lincoln
The Artist
The Help
War Horse
The King's Speech
True Grit
Inglorious Basterds
The Reader
Atonement
Letters from Iwo Jima
Good Night and Good Luck
The Black Dahlia
The Good German
Fury
Flags of Our Fathers
The Great Raid
Valkyrie
Red Tails
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas
The Way Back
Race (coming out this year)
Flyboys
A Dangerous Method
The Young Victoria
Marie Antoinette
The Duchess
Belle
Casanova
Elizabeth: The Golden Age
The Other Boleyn Girl
Kingdom of Heaven
That's not including lesser known films, tv films, indies, or films that otherwise don't usually show up in "historical films from the 2000s" lists.
Does Hollywood do *as many* historical films as they used to in the past? No. But they still do them, and there are usually at least 3-4 each year that end up being nominated or otherwise noted for something or other.
>>67815107
Then leave the thread. >>67815143
this is coming out soon. about as historical as gladiator.
>>67815143
Uh, honey? I have news for you. Historical films are films which are set in a historical time period. The movie is set in the 19th century. That makes it a historical film. The Hunchback of Notre Dame is set in a specific time period as well (with specific characters who place it in that time period, such as the king) so yes, if someone made a film adaptation of The Hunchback of Notre Dame and kept the book's time period in tact, it would be a historical film.
>>67815592
I think OP is actually asking for more swords and sandals flicks and just worded his post poorly...
>>67813033
I think he meant historical fiction, period pieces, whatever. They aren't necessarily true to events, but try to create a story in a recreation of the times.
>>67813005
Because the historical events important enough to warrant their own movie tend to be overwhelmingly white and male, which is le problematic.
>>67815592
>>67815721
Nice you took the time to do that but it's obvious OP basically just wants shit like Gladiator and Braveheart.
>the current year
>still no movie about the Byzantine Empire
>>67816017
I would also like to see a movie about the 4th crusade.
>>67815133
solomon northup literally wrote a book about his life in south, how is that historical?
>>67815674
it would be a drama that uses history as a backdrop. yes it takes place in historical settings but like sherlock, it's about characters and you can make adaptation in any period and setting you like
They would have to include blacks into everything and anything.
>>67816017
Byzantine a shit bruh
>>67816064
3rd Crusader was a goat, everything before and after was shit tier
>>67813005
The fact that Germans fap over the tannenberg battle is retarded. They want a battle through treachery and backstabing, and then spent the next decade getting rekt by pissed of Rome.
Nothing to be proud of here cunts.
>>67816064
Wouldn't mind. Don't see it happening. tfw not independently wealthy to the point where you can fund the shit you want to see made.
>>67816150
Mehmet/Pierre/Enrico/Borislav pls go.
>>67816017
A movie about the fall could work.
>>67816254
>the fall
Of constantinople?
>>67816324
yea
>>67815592
When people say "history movies" they don't mean a movie that took place 50 years ago. Christ.
>>67815848
apparently he doesn't mean historical fiction either.
>>67816254
>>67816324
And the rise of stronger nations.
>>67816090
>it would be a drama that uses history as a backdrop
You mean a historical drama.
>but like sherlock, it's about characters and you can make adaptation in any period and setting you like
The novel is historical fiction. If a film stays true to the novel's setting, then that film is a historical film.
peloponnesian war
>>67816090
>solomon northup literally wrote a book about his life in south, how is that historical?
How is it not historical? It's a film... set in a historical time period... based o historical events. I can't tell if you're baiting or genuinely retarded. paging Charlie Gordon.
>>67813005
>Germania
>Present-day Germany
was this actually in the movie? are americans that stupid?
>>67816576
no it isnt
>>67816254
A tv series about the last Roman-Persian war would also be great, considering all the shit happened to it, following the Arab invasions in the end
>>67816524
>When people say "history movies" they don't mean a movie that took place 50 years ago. Christ.
Golly! I'm sorry for not being a mind reader and only listing the specific historical movies that "people" (aka OP, since those films are on lists of historical movies) have in mind. Something that happened in the 1940s-50s, and now that we're in the 2010s the 60s is gradually being included as well, is considered historical at this point. Sorry that it makes you feel old, though.
>>67816637
Why isn't it? Explain with an actual argument. Or go back to waiting furiously for the Walking Dead finale and leave us in peace.
Because it's cheaper to just make stoner comedies and romcoms. Historical films are very high risk. A lot of studios went bankrupt by just one bad film in the 60s.
>>67813005
Minority audiences don't care about European history, and white audiences don't care about non-European history unless its biblical stuff.
>>67816621
Yes and yes.
Biblical shit another minefield but I'm counting Exodus in the same class of movie-making as Cleopatra/Ben-Hur whatever.
>>67816621
iirc audiences was confused after test screenings
>>67813005
Good question, it's easier than ever since they can make everything with CGI instead of having to deal with the logistics of location shoots and set building.
>>67816776
This. They're crazy expensive and not a surefire hit
However, ancient historical epics were dead between the late 60s and mid 90s-00s, where they faded from relevancy again, even if they are still made. They could always have another resurgence, but it would require some fresh ideas and voices and not just redoing Gladiator over and over
Is the Ridley Scott Egypt movie good? I remember people shitting on it but I think it's because they felt obligated about the casting to feel offended like a bunch of crybabies.
>>67813005
Why did Hollywood stop making ww2 or holocaust movies.We need more of them to remind kids of the horror the evil nazi commited.
Because history is racist
>>67816693
>I'm sorry for not being a mind reader
It's okay, I know you're retarded. You don't have to apologize
>>67817319
not to mention patriarchal.
>>67813119
I love how /pol/acks view literally everything through their narrow ideological lens. Literally worse than SJW's.
>>67817553
Fuck off kike
>>67817493
Don't forget it's also heterosexual and cisgender
Ultimately it's because they bomb now. Blame audiences for being stupid. The PC/lack of diversity quota stuff wouldn't make a difference for hollywood execs if they were still guaranteed hits.
If any big-budget movie ISN'T a franchise or disney, it will bomb. Simple as that
>>67813119
>tfw you realize /pol/beards are just niggers with smaller dicks
>>67817662
>>67816621
test audiences thought it was set in a fantasy scape because they were unaware of the term.
>>67817777
>Blame audiences for being stupid.
They should blame themselves for pushing out shit like Exodus: Gods and Kings, Gods of Egypt, the shittier cut of Kingdom of Heaven, etc.
What about Django: Unchained?
>>67818380
Westerns don't count, and other movies from that time are period films, not historical.
>>67818462
It's not a Western just because it's set in the West, and he has a cool revolver. It's about slavery.
>and other movies from that time are period films, not historical
Tf is the difference?
>>67818567
It's a western. Slavery isn't a genre.
>>67819014
No, it's historical.
>>67819225
no it is not
Anything set after the invention of photography shouldn't be considered historical desu.
You wouldn't call a 1910 movie based in the present of 1910 a historical movie.
>>67813570
Britannia? Ya' mean Albino
>>67819324
Yeah? Django unchained is an adventure
>>67816095
god damn son that's some top tier bantz
numales and SJWs BTFO and on suicide watch
>>67813173
>Still bleeding
He was a war veteran, probably with basic ability to stitch himself up.
He's riding a horse, every now and then the wound bursts and starts bleeding.
>The costumes in this piece of fiction, aren't exactly like they actually were.
>They didn't bother to make the fucking wheat-fields and roads historically accurate.
Literally the worst kind of person, none of the objections, except for the bleeding, has any sort of relation to the story.
It's historical fiction, you fucking autist.
>>67816095
What a boss. Saved for the ages
>>67820144
Must be difficult for you to learn new facts, keep trying, anon.
>>67816095
>common sense is now being praised as something exceptional
I think the planet is due for a good nuclear apocalypse
>>67820377
Good reply, 10/10
Please explain to me how the height of the wheat had any sort of relevance to the story.
>>67816064
Only if it was prefaced with the Massacre of the Latins.
A white man with a sense of history and tradition is dangerous.
>>67820567
This, he might start becoming proud of being white and we certainly don't want that
>>67820475
isn't it
>>67813570
This is dumb man
You're an idiot
I can't even be bothered to argue because of how dumb you are
>>67814710
pompeii was pretty fucking accurate
>>67821700
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
PCHHHHHHHHHHH
>>67816017
Because the Roman Empire was cooler in the late republic and early empire days. Byzantine Empire is to the Roman Empire what 2016 Bam Margera is to 2004 Bam Margera. Interesting, but in a depressing sort of way that really just makes you want to go back.
>>67815592
>Red Tails
dont you dare try and pass that shit of as historically accurate
>>67821780
>PCH
pacific coast highway?
not taking the mickey what do you mean by this?
(pompeii was awful by the way)
>>67822157
It's common sounds you could find in Pompeii when the volcano woke up
>>67820494
Its just to point out the laziness of directors to look shit up thats all. You could most likely do this sort of stuff for any given frame in any given movie but that doesnt change a thing about how wrong this particular scene is.
It definitely is autistic but that doesnt make it not entertaining.
>>67822347
>>67822347
to make movies bang on historically accurate in crazy expensive though. my gf is an archaeologist and crazy into horse riding just getting the tack right in most movies would use up a huge section of the budget. seriously we priced it up one time. just getting accurate mounts, tack and riders (capable of riding like they would have) was crazy expensive
>>67822734
i say crazy a lot....
>>67816017
Don't do this to me
>>67816621
>are americans that stupid?
Ask Ridley Scott he made the fucking thing.
>>67817108
>tfw theres probably hundreds of historical scripts just rotting away in storages and cabinets.
>people are okay with spending billions a year making capeshit
The noose is ready.
