Kanye will leave more of an impact on the hip-hop industry than the likes of Eminem, Jay-Z, etc. How does this make you feel?
UNO FILMO
shit wrong board
Like I'm livin' in dat twenty furst century
well, he's an a lot better musician than Eminem and Jay-Z
>>67804933
DOIN' SOMETHIN' MEAN TO IT
kanyes impact is vastly overrated by kanye west fanboys
>>67804879
Was it kino?
>>67804879
Good, because he is way more talented than either of them.
>>67804879
He married a hobbit, so why do I care
>>67805190
>basically the first "entitled rapper" persona
>kickstarted the whole autotune subgenre
>blends music with art and fashion
>made the best Death Grips album that isn't a Death Grips album
>continues to make music that transcends beyond the genre into something greater
>>67804879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOUqVuNzkA8
>>67805247
Classic
>>67805202
no it was ""absolut kinography""
>ywn never see Cruel Summer
J U S T
>>67804879
He shitposted alone in a room for 3 summers IMO he deserves to do these numbers.
Name an artist/band with a better run of albums than kanye post 2000.
MBDTF>TLOP>Yeezus>LR>Grad>CD>808s
>it's a /tv/ lets everybody know they have terrible taste in music thread
>>67805246
>kickstarted the whole autotune subgenre
no
>blends music with art and fashion
not the first one to do that and its not even that important when your music is just shit anyway
>made the best Death Grips album that isn't a Death Grips album
you probably only know death grips and kanye west which would explain your post alot
>continues to make music that transcends beyond the genre into something greater
[citation needed]
>>67804933
>>67805170
that song is fucking terrible.
>>67805490
Hating Kanye is the 21st century version of hating Elvis, nice job you faux-contrarian piece of trash.
>>67804879
who
>>67805439
Have you lost your mind?
LR > MBDTF > Yeezus > 808 > CD > TLOP > GRAD
>>67805439
>CD that low
>yeezus better than LR
i literally cant even right now
fun fact, hes also a nigger
Kanye West is the Adam Sandler of music.
Both are incredibly-lazy, both have one trick up their sleeve (in Adam's case, being occasionally REALLY LOUD! and in Kanye's case, being a monotone, egocentric "musician" who really, really enjoys writing lyrics about himself) and they're both constantly surrounded by "yes men" who are paid good salaries by the company to "keep the product happy"...
... but God forbid you tell their fans that. This is the reason why.
Kanye's laziness mirrors his fan's own laziness. Kanye, like each and every one of his fans, has never done a day's worth of hard work, in his life... and his fans know it. "Integrity", "loyalty", "honor"? These are mere buzzwords for the average Kanye West fan. They are archaic. A thing of the past. In the new millennium, it's all about self-promotion at any cost and through every outlet of media (and social media) possible.
Hold a mirror up to the average Kanye West fan by telling them the truth about their icon, and it's like putting a vampire in a solarium. They'll shrink away from it in shame and guilt, but eventually that shame and guilt will become something else. Rage.
Now, let's have a laugh at Kanye's defenders having a good, old-fashioned rage.
>Every asian I know, know I hate asians.
What did e mean by this?
>>67805502
He took 1000 hours to make that, show some god damn respect you lower class scum.
>>67805499
>le not important because personal opinion trumps the truth
>[citation needed] for a qualitative statement
Are you legitimately retarded? Back to /mu/ with the rest of the underage redditors.
I dropped kanye has soon as he wifed kim k
>>67805571
this so much
thumbs up if your 12 and dont listen to justin bieber, nicki minaj or one direction but like real music like queen, led zeppelin and back when music was good
I miss the old Kanye
if you don't like Yeezus, you are a plen and that's a fact
>>67805571
If Kanye West is the Adam Sandler of music then Kurt Cobain is the Rob Schneider.
>>67805644
straight from the go Kanye
>>67805590
Yeah I could make something better than that in ProTools and Def Jam's library of samples in about two days. Then I'd hire whatever nigger is popular this month to recite some mediocre poetry and bam, hit single.
>>67805645
>nitpicking
the fuck is a plen
>>67805703
I suppose you're a millionaire then? I'd spend all my time shitposting if I was rich too.
>>67805645
Didn't Tupac incite gang wars between the east and west?
As much as I dislike Kanye, at least he's not trying to shoot up east side black guys.
>>67805799
thats how the cool kids say pleb
yeah maybe kanyes lyrics, but tupacs lyrics are trash. but I don't mind bad lyrics if I have good music
>>67805645
DRIVIN IN THE SAME ERR THAT THEY KILLED PAC IN
>>67804879
Well he deserves his legacy.
He's the artist of our times. Across any medium.
>>67805645
Yes, I know these are swapped.
Yes, Pac's verse is still better. Raw, believable, angry. Kanye is just desperately trying to sound like something interesting, might as well go with OF for that.
I'm not being ironic when I say Kanye will go down in history.
Like hip-hop wasnt pretentious enough before, now its all the same hipster shit in it which ruined indie folk and rock. So yeah OP, you're right, that was mainly Kanye.
>>67805802
I don't work for Def Jam, autist. Learn to read good.
>>67806022
and you never will you scrub
>>67805636
>Disliking chart-pop, but liking Dad Rock somehow makes you patrician
It's okay, fella. Keep your chin up
>>67806041
I don't want to. I work for the New York Times.
>>67806070
Are you some kind of tremendous retard?
>>67805590
Just because something takes 1000 hours to make and/or you become rich because of it that doesnt mean its good.
>>67805571
>Kanye West
>Lazy
I don't think you actually know much about Kanye's work desu senpai, the fact you wrote and Iliad that can be proven wrong in a few sentences is embarrassing.
>>67806070
He was being sarcastic, autismo.
>>67806000
this image is just aimed towards the "lmao kanye is whack dude. tupec has much better lyrics dude, he's so deep #fuckillurminati" people
but kanyes lyrics ain't like that most of the time. and yes, his lyrics are indeed not so good.
but like I said, I don't care at all if the music is good
>>67805439
More like
MBDTF>LR>Yeezus>Grad=CD>808
Not sure about Pablo yet
Kanye is the GOAT.
>if young metro dont trust you im gon shoot you BEAUTIFUL MORNIN
>>67806183
Hip hop is the laziest form of music. Stereotypically it came from black people. Hip-hop started as an idea to make money off of other people's music. It is called "sampling", basically legally stealing others hard work and sell it as your own with little added value.
Singing is for gay boys and it's nothing to be proud of.
Why is MBDTF so much stronger lyrically than Yeezus?
>>67806370
Are all conductors that change the key of classical music and the composition hacks?
>>67806415
Conductors arent really musicians, and they rarely do anything to the material.
>>67805531
except Elvis was shit and Kanye has made some great music
Favorite verse off of Ye's new mixtape?
mine
>GOOD DICK'LL DO THAT
>>67806485
>Elvis was shit
top pleb
>>67806352
>mfw I heard it the first time
>>67805703
lmao this nigga making beats with protools
unreal
>>67806183
Hip-hop and rap are nothing more than aggressive lyrics set to simplistic beats and melodies. They take very-little skill or hard work to create and are subsequently enjoyed by those with no appreciation of skill or hard work.
Also, hip-hop and rap tend to be something of a catalyst* for violent acts committed by these unintelligent, uninspired, unskilled and lazy people (mostly men). Ironically, were one to resort to violence in an attempt to remove said-problem (I can think of a few who'd be first to go), this would negate the argument, entirely. So, the rest of us just put up with hip-hop, rap and their followers.
There are so many wondrous things we've learned we can do with our voices, in unison, with other hard-working people who've been practicing until their fingers bleed, and there are STILL those who listen to people talking over a generic melody and beat?
*The most humorous thing about this post is, an overwhelming majority of those that DO defend hip-hop and rap, would have to head to Google or a dictionary to know what the word, "catalyst" means.
>>67804879
>>>/mu/
And for the record. That DVD that came with MBDTF album sucked ass.
I gotta tidal for you, ya gayfish.
>>67806352
>>67806515
I don't get it
>>67806529
You can do that tho
>>67806509
post a counterexample
his only merit was stealing rock and roll from the negroes and watering it down
>>67806571
you can also do them with garageband for ipad lmao don't mean you would do that if you knew what the fuck you doing
>>67806589
Good artists copy, great artists steal.
Anyway Elvis was an icon in the classic american sense, who came from a very poor background and made it. He had a good voice and was good looking enough to make it.
Being an artist isnt just about technical things
>>67806641
Protools is widely used in the music industry you fucking pleb. Its one of the best DAWs out there besides Ableton.
>>67806681
protools is cool if you're recording a 20 piece band or an orchestra
if you use protools to make beats you're fucking retarded
>>67806654
ok, I know that for burgers making a lot of money is what makes a great artist, but there are civilized places where people know that chuck berry was an artist and elvis wasn't worth shit
>>67806734
People do that especially because for a sample based music like most hip-hop is it doesnt matter what you use.
>>67805246
>blends music with art and fashion
Bowie did a much better job
>>67805246
Most of these arent even true. And just fucking LOL if you think Kanye was the first "entitled rapper", thats pretty much every fucking rapper since the fucking 80s.
Kanye became famous because jews could market his nigger ass to white kids who think they're fucking cool and shit.
He is basically a nigger Eminem.
>>67806535
holy shit hiphop btfo
>>67806568
have you listened to TLOP yet?
in Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 1, Future says "If Young Metro don't trust, I'm gon' shot you" which then is followed by the beat dropping
>>67806824
don't bother he probably uses Fruity Loops or something as mediocre.
>>67805246
Fuck you kanye. Only decent thing you've ever done is be in that Russell Brand and Jonah hill movie
>>67805246
Dan, go to bed. You have work tomorrow. Also, we should pull our socks up and tell the group to stop wiping on Reaver.
>>67807033
I don't, but some top-tier producers use it, so it must not be so bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xiAW532xS0
>>67806824
seriously, tell a hip hop producer that you use protools and their sides will go hiroshima
>>67805571
That's how it starts. The fever, the rage...
>>67807160
That's fucking garbage, man,
>>67807207
metro is garbage? lmao, post your beats famiglia
>>67807185
>hip hop producer
Mistake number 1: Implying that hip hop producers have an opinion that's valuable.
I'll just ask Flood what he uses. or Brian Eno.
>>67804879
Nigger music, LOL, who cares?
>>67807235
I'm not the person you were replying to lol. Enjoy your electro hop carnival music, loser. I bet your soundcloud has less than 10 monthly visitors.
>>67807185
Like anyone cares what they think. Have you HEARD the shit they put out nowadays? It doesn't even sound as good as the 2003-2009 period. A musical birthday card has more complex beats than the shit they make.
>>67807237
>I'll just ask Flood what he uses. or Brian Eno.
ok dad, go ask phil spector what daw he uses
seriously though, if you were born in the wrong generation i fell really sorry for you
>>67807185
Kanye West
Dr. Dre
Pharrell Williams
TImbaland
Rick Rubin
what a shit thread
is this what /mu/ is like?
>>67807271
my music is shit, i don't release it famiglia
but at least i know what tools people use
prottols for hiphop production? still l'ing my a o with that
>>67807305
shit, I forgot this was 2005
>white kids talking about rap music
>>67807340
>an industry standard for hiphop production? I am l'ing my amateur, untalented a o at this
Ok
>>67807373
Too bad hip-hop is shit now so it doesnt matter what "hip-hop producers" use, because they produce nothing noteworty.
Electronic music producers on the other hand dont use Protools that much, thats used by real audio engineers and musicians who eventually mix their shit so it doesnt sound horrible.
The same can be said for any "hip-hop producer" because in the end mixing and mastering is done by someone who knows what he's doing, and its usually done in Logic or Pro Tools, just go to any studio and you'll see.
>>67806898
>Kanye became famous because jews could market his nigger ass to white kids who think they're fucking cool and shit.
I had no idea Jay-Z was a jew
>>67807451
>thats used by real audio engineers and musicians who eventually mix their shit so it doesnt sound horrible.
>in the end mixing and mastering is done by someone who knows what he's doing, and its usually done in Logic or Pro Tools, just go to any studio and you'll see.
my fucking point from the beginning
>>67807431
>>67807340
why would the DAW matter? mostly going to be using 3rd party plugins anyway so whichever DAW has the best user interface and maximizes workflow would be best and that all comes down to personal preference
can you name some objective reasons why you think protools or whatever else is bad and which DAWs you think are superior?
>>67807479
kek
>>67807495
ableton and even fl are much faster and more intuitive than protools
make it much easier to implement ideas quickly
>>67807405
>americans
>white
>>67807405
>black pretending they dont like pleb shit
>>67807532
>/mu/
>not white
>>67804879
>Kanye will leave more of an impact on the hip-hop industry than the likes of Eminem
You're an idiot if you think this is true. Eminem literally changed the face of pop music.
>>67804879
I feel like this is in the wrong thread
/mu/
>>67807622
kanye did too and hasnt sullied his image by making a bunch of shit albums.
This is simply not true, for whether you choose to accept it or not, rap would not be anywhere near mainstream if it were not for Eminem. Hence no Eminem, no Kanye.
>>67804879
GAY FISH
/thread
>>67804879
But why did he forget about Dre?
>>67808080
Jayz made kanye not eminem
eminem and kanye both have their own unique styles.
stop being old
>>67807622
Kanye has literally never sold out though
>>67808080
That's a literal lie, if Eminem didn't do it, someone else would've filled that gap, no one could've done what Kanye did. I love Em but still he never changed
Who?
>>67808199
I was not talking literally, dipshit. I am saying Eminem took rap mainstream, allowing retards like Kanye to achieve levels of popularity otherwise not possible.
Before that, the only rappers close to popular culture were Biggie and Pac, and even then it was only listened to by people interested in hip-hop and rap as a genre, not like now where little fucking kids have Kanye on their playlist mixed in with Beiber and Miley Cyrus or whoever the fuck is popular this week.
And btw, Pac hated Jay-z. Jay-z himself probably wouldn't be as popular now had Pac not died, so you think some fuckin autist like Kanye would be? no.
Stop being a fuckin' little kid.
>>67808341
>Kanye has literally never sold out though
makes mainstream pop music
>he never sold out guys
>>67807405
those same whtie kids are the reason why the genre is still around and bigger than ever
>>67807671
>kanye did too and hasnt sullied his image by making a bunch of shit albums.
>>67808400
>I am saying Eminem took rap mainstream, allowing retards like Kanye to achieve levels of popularity otherwise not possible.
There's no correlation, Outkast, Public Enemy, Dr. Dre sold millions before Eminem, he didn't open any gate for upcoming black rapper/producers
>>67808341
Someone else would've filled the gap? Like who? SOme other white rapper? Fuckin' who? Sage Francis? Buck 65? Aesop Rock? No, back then, people were jizzing over limp bizkit and korn and other brands of "nu-metal". Like i've already said, rap and hip hop was nowehere near mainstream and Eminem took it there. Acting like "oh, if Eminem didn't someone else would have" is just a dumb thing to say.
Kanye is just an overrated autist whose not breaking any new ground or revolutionizing anything. He makes generic shit and has his head so far up his own ass for so long he thinks his shit don't stink.
>>67808412
>Makes mainstream pop music
Lmao did you ever listen to any of his albums? He has a song or two that hits the charts but he's unorthodox af. The only "mainstream" track in TLoP is No More Parties in L.A but even then you're really pushing it, Yeezus was anything but commercial and MBDTF will literally go down as the greatest album of our generation, he is the new big rockstar mang, you can't disagree.
>>67808400
This.
Eminem was the only rapper on TRL. He was the mainstream darling. Played on both Rap and Alt Rock radio stations. Toured with Snoop and Korn.
When Kanye came along his sound what a sort of "breathe of fresh air" because it wasnt all about gang bangin, drugs, and bitches, it had soul, context, and inspiring beats that made airplay incredibly easy.
>>67808449
You can always tell that these people have never actually listened to Kanye properly, you might've heard a single here and there on the radio but otherwise you're clueless to his actual discography
>>67808544
>MBDTF will literally go down as the greatest album of our generation
you are literally 20 years old or younger.
>>67804879
>/tv/ - Television and Film
>>67808400
nwa and tupac made rap mainstream
eminem made rap into "poppy"
type music,OF literally did exactly what he did in 2009 and argueably better.Few artist have a similar style to YE and do it just as well.
tupacs entire life was an illusion so whatever you heard probably wasnt real.
>>67808449
kanyes had two bad albums,eminems had 2 good ones.
>>67808515
TO say there is "no correlation" with Rap being so mainstream now and Eminems popularity is simply ridiculousness.
Yeh, no shit rappers existed before Eminem. No shit other rappers sold records. Not to the degree they do now though and to the diverse range of people who now listen to rap, instead of just gang-gangers and wannabe thugs.
>>67808532
Lmao you fucking idiot, Dre signed Em! Hip Hop was already massive before Eminem, he was just a popular dude at the time, I'm with you and I think his rhymes are great and he's honestly kept some composure and Rap God is in his top 3 best singles but he doesn't make his own beats and he's chained to a label. Kanye is far more of an artist than Eminem
>>67808597
Name 5 that are better senpai
>>67804879
But the reason he has such impact is because he has worked for it and done shit to make that impact happen
I don't know why it should make me feel anything really
Good for him
>>67808559
>touring with korn as a rap artist is a good thing
he was also most likely played on rock stations because he was white and rednecks tolerated him at the time tbqh
>>67808646
>eminem made rap into "poppy"
Yeh thats what i said nitwit, he made it popular
>>67808662
You think i don't know dre signed em? ffs like i've already said YES RAP EXISTED BEFORE EMINEM. I'm not sayying "oh eminem created rap, before rap there was nothing"
WHAT I AM SAYING IS EMINEM MADE RAP POPULAR, HE TOOK IT MAINSTREAM SO PEOPLE OTHERWISE UNINTERESTED IN IT AS A GENRE NOW LISTEN TO IT AND IT IS MORE ACCESSIBLE!
HOLY FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>>67806838
I agree but Kanye is doing his own thing with it which is cool. Bowie had bit more avant garde approach to it.
>137 replies
Nice job mods
>>67808683
rap? Supreme Clientele, Stankonia, Marshall Mathers LP, Food & Liquor, and I feel like I'm stating the obvious here but The College Dropout- ALL superior to MBDTF
>>67808745
ice-cube toured with and has done songs with korn before Em came along
>>67808747
>Eminem made rap popular
Except that's fucking wrong you idiot, at most he brought it to some white people but before Em hip hop was still extremely popular you fucking nonce, where do you get off?
>>67804879
just like MC Hammer did, after he blew all of his fucking money?
also, try fucking off to /mu/ you niggerlover
>>67808780
That's just a lie though, if you actually think any of those milquetoast albums are better than MBDTF means that you haven't actually been paying attention to the hip hop timeline and the evolution that's created Kanye
>>67808774
yeh, maybe if this thread didn't exist we could have another BATMAN VS SUPERMAN THREAD HEY?
>>67808798
So you literally deny Eminem made it popular, before going on to say that yes, he indeed made it more popular than it was before? But yeh, i'm the nonce, you fuckin retard.
![1455468084kanye_debt_tweet[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lUSdLhk.png "1455468084kanye_debt_tweet[1].png")
>>67808821
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>67808747
i mean the sound of his music sounded like pop music
he did not make rap mainstream at all
>>67808821
>MC Hammer
One single
>Kanye West
Late Registration
Graduation
808 and Heartbreak
MBDTF
Yeezus
TLoP
Whose better?
>>67808780
>in 2010
is what he asked
also shit list
>>67808848
>Eminem made hip popular
No what I'm saying is that Em is popular but the genre was already a multi million dollar industry before him, that's like saying Gwen Stefani made pop music popular you dingus
>>67808845
>actually investing effort into the continuity of "the hip hop timeline"
literally who cares when the end result is something like Future or Young Thug or that nigger with the spooky contact lenses. All of those albums I listed are far more accomplished and important that the album you probably didn't give a shit about until p4k gave it a perfect score. I'm not even saying the album is bad (some songs like POWER, are terrible though) but to consider it superior to the College Dropout is a fucking laugh.
>>67808544
>MBDTF
multiple radio singles
>Yeezus
an art piece he did to "express himself" and also try to appeal to the coachella crowd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iszwuX1AK6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWOcKEzNp5c
yea anything but commercial
>TLOP
Is it still on tidal? Its technically not even released yet. He still wants to remaster some tracks before he puts it out fully
>>67808853
kim already put the money in their joint account
keep up the lore if you are gonna post twitter drama
>>67808890
No, he said MBDTF is the greatest album of our generation. Now, unless he was born i nthe year 2000 (which is possible), then his generation would include those far superior albums I listed. He just has shit taste.
>>67808449
His only bad album is Graduation. Yeezus, 808s and TLOP are hit and miss, and the rest are great.
>>67808924
>getting bailed out of financial ruin by your wife who had sex with a C-list rapper on video
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>67804879
>still on front page
Where are the janitors? This board is clearly going to shit if a Kanye thread is more successful than film discussion threads that aren't BvS
Pepe save us all
>>67808916
>multiple radio singles
i didnt know making songs that are so good people want to listen to them is a bad thing
>>67808745
Even if he was touring with Korn or Limp Bizkit hes still showcasing himself to a much larger audience. That same audience will likely buy his shit.
And he was played on alternative stations because he was white. much like the Beastie Boys. rednecks have nothing to do with it. I dont remember to many hip hop stations playing my name is.
>>67808862
But he did. Like i said, before that it was gangsta rap and bullshit 80's rap, which was and always will be primitive shit with lame fuckin Dr Suess sounding rhymes. It had a degree of popularity before but that was almost exclusively with gangstas and wannabe gangstas. Now, little 10 year old white kids listen to it. Their parents listen to it. Fuckin grannies and shit listen to it. Do you think grannies were listening to fuckin' "hit 'em up" or listenin' to Biggie talking 'bout his mad flow?
>>67808911
Yes, as i've already stated multiple times now, i'm not saying EMINEM CREATED RAP. I know it existed before him. What i am saying is he made it more popular than it was before.
Let me say that again: Eminem made rap more popular than it was before.
If you are going to continue to deny this, you're a fuckin idiot and you're in denial.
>>67808913
Because in between you get absolute artists like Dre, Nas, Kanye and DG. I love Em like you I'm just talking from the other side mang.
>>67808916
>MBDTF = mult radio singles
Thanks for that absolutely fantastic criticism you philistine
Also good work, you found two ads with a great Yeezus song on it, how does this detract from the album?
It's commercial because people want to hear it dude.
Just listened to it on Youtube in full
>>67808957
>being able to make retarded financial desicions and rhyme about all the bitches you fuck still makes you beta
i dont want to be alpha tbqh.
>>67809017
Literally all your saying is Em was popular, Kanye brought just as many people to rap ya dingus
>>67808589
>people have never actually listened to Kanye properly
holy shit what?
>>67808955
>His only bad album is Graduation
are you sure you are listening properly?
>>67809076
>people have never actually listened to Kanye properly
People who have ADD and can't be bothered to listen to it the whole way through without thinking of what normies have said on fb
>>67808880
to be fair, MC Hammer had a contract stipulation where U Can't Touch This couldn't be sold as a single. People had to buy the whole album to listen to that one song.
>>67808989
>>67809021
the whole point of the post was in response to those albums not being mainstream you shitlords
>>67805799
plen detected
>>67809017
>always will be primitive shit with lame fuckin Dr Suess sounding rhymes
em was-
>muh corny puns about poop and balls
>muh moms a pillhead
>muh fags and violence
he was literally proto tyler and iam saying this as someone who likes both
>>67805571
>in Adam's case, being occasionally REALLY LOUD!
um kanye doe this too, just via text, did you forget CAPLOCK NIGGA?
>>67809132
no it was about him selling out
>>67809021
>Dre
>absolute artist
>Kanye
>absolute artist
>DG
>absolute artists
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA
>>67809046
Holy fuck... you are one thick motherfucka.
Yes, i am relieved you have finally grasped some semblance of what it is i am saying, that Eminem was popular, but thats not quite it. You almost had it, you were so close.
What i was an am saying, is he made it more popular than it was before his arrival on the scene. I am also saying that due to the genres new found popularity amongst people previously uninterested in it, people like kanye can exist in mainstream culture as "celebrities".
>>67809154
THats just stupid and you know it. If we reduce every artist to a basic format like that, every rapper sounds lame. What was dre and cube and nwa and pretty much every other fuckin rapper then?
>muh gangbangin
>durr fuck the police
>fuckin bitches
Even on that playing field, Em comes out on top, 'coz he wasn't talkin about the same old shit and took the genre in a new direction that made it accessible to people who didn't relate to psuedo-gangsta shit.
>>67806535
Show me all the beats you've made since its so easy.
>>67809242
dj quik wasnt
outkast wasnt
both came before em
>>67809223
>The only "mainstream" track in TLoP is No More Parties in L.A but even then you're really pushing it, Yeezus was anything but commercial and MBDTF will literally go down as the greatest album of our generation
>mainstream
>commercial
and lets not forget exclusive songs he did for Addidas and Fifa. He sold out bruh.
>All these facebook kiddies who can't separate their distaste for Kanye as a person from his talent as a producer.
Way to out yourselves as complete fucking plebs.
>>67809362
wasnt my post
but something can be
>critically succesful and socially successfull
>>67809434
Kanye is a mediocre producer.
>>67809467
Name someone you would consider a particularly talented producer.Hard mode: Don't use google
>>67809467
he doesnt work alone but the collabritive persona of kanye is a above average producer
>>67809434
he hasnt produced shit for like +6 years now
more credits for other prdoucers than a fucking taylor swift album
>>67809497
Flood.
>>67809497
Premier
>>67804879
Cool story Kayne
>>67809497
Danger Mouse
kanye is easily one of the greatest living artists right now
MBDTF is a fucking great album tbqh.
>>67809434
all his songs are colabs of like 20 different producers
>>67804879
>thread blatantly about "music" is still up
Good job mods. I make an independence day thread and it gets deleted for shilling. Awesome.
>>67810040
go away shill
Kanye fucking blows. Genuinely, his lyrical content is worthless, his flow is monotonous and "his" production is only as good as the people helping him.
>>67810132
even if kanye is getting help from 6 people he still has final say in what it sounds like
>>67809235
>my only criticism is to write HAHAHAHA after everything
What an intellectual powerhouse
>>67810132
I don't see how the amount of producers could affect your enjoyment of a song.
>>67809577
>literally uses the most popluar and critically acclaimed DJ of all time
Oh wow Kanye must be shit!
>>67810132
This kind of criticism is worthless
lol who gives a fuck, nas is better than all of them
>>67805590
>1000 hours
>to sample a king crimson song
>>67810450
he made 1 good album. provided it's one of the best hip hop albums of all time, but it's still just 1 album
>>67806370
Didn't kanye get famous by stealing daft punk and akira original work?
And now he MARRIED a chick that took the dick on video and that video is on pornhub?
Well atleast I like his song with chris martin, pretty neay
>>67804879
His early music was alright.
Now he just creates what he think is art, but really is just the drivel of some low IQ retard who thinks way too highly of himself.
>>67807405
This tbqh no wonder the opinions in here are so shit. White kids just can't connect with ye
>>67810600
the rest aren't as good, but still pretty dope, still, illmatic gives him GOAT points for the rest of his career
>>67804879
>niggers
>>67810641
>pretty neay
>neay
NEAY!
my new word
>>67810641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT2ys2QvJOY
>>67810600
I'd say 2, after It Was Written he got very average
>>67810641
>daft punk
>original work
oh the iron
>>67807282
Go back to kanyetothe, you tasteless faggot.
>>67810775
Neay, boi!
>>67807282
>dissing Eno
Kill yourself, he's one of the greatest producers of all time. You right generationers don't really care about music, you care about image. If you really cared about music you wouldn't be so dismissive of everything that's old.
>>67807307
Pretty much
Who gives a fuck what this nigger does? this isn't fucking /tv/ related.
>>67811667
He's a meme and all memes flow to /tv/ now
This has literally been the best thread in weeks.
/tv/ is just sad now.
>a thread about an actress will be deleted in 2 seconds
>a thread about some rapper and niggerbabble music will get 200+ replies
How does the jani justify this?
I am so fucking sick of Kanye West
>>67810600
If Hip Hop Is Dead didn't have such a cheesy name it'd be looked at better. It's got some great songs on it
t. someone who doesn't listen to rap anymore
>>67812909
>one guy dumping pics gets deleted
>actual discussion is allowed to stay
sounds about right
>>67806535
(you)
>>67805299
Underrated
ALL THEM OTHER NIGGAS LAME AND YOU KNOW IT NOW
WHEN A REAL NIGGA HOLD YOU DOWN YOU SUPPOSED TO DROWN
BOUND
>>67805150
prove it
>>67810641
>daft punk
>original work
Pick fucking one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVVfZAZdIUs
>>67809497
Max Martin is objectively talented even if you don't like the music he makes
>>67804879
>Listening to hip hop
>Listening to fucking Kanye West
End yourself,my lad
>>67813476
nice try
no jk
>>67809497
Moon Man
The whole world saw Kim Kardashian sucking dick and getting fucked hard, but Kanye still married her anyway
Man up, why do you care about a woman's past?
>>67810641
>stealing daft punk
yeah
it was not like Kanye played this track together with Daft Punk live at the grammys...
Akira is also Kanyes favorit movie of all time and a big influence for him
It makes me feel fine. Both have done work on par with Kanye's top tier stuff, but overall Kanye's output is much more impressive.
I guess it's too bad in the sense that he's not a very good rapper, and while I was at first excited by hip hop becoming more focused on sound and production, it's gone a little too far in that direction with disappointing dividends - there's a lot of shitty rap blanketed in production that's at once over the top and pretty boring.
That might have happened without Kanye though, who knows.
>>67813921
I'd marry dat ass too. Weeew lad.
>>67806509
Elvis had great charisma, but was a mediocre musician and was really just not a songwriter.
Hating Kanye is more like hating the Rolling Stones.
Hating Kanye as a musician isn't really that big of a thing anymore, it used to be very annoying, but these past few years it seems like people have reached more of a consensus that he's at least pretty talented.
>>67804879
>more of an impact on the hip-hop industry than the likes of Jay-Z
Jay-Z is the rapper every other rapper bases their business model on
>release records
>establish record imprint
>establish clothing line
>>67813921
wasn't that sextape with kanye?
>>67816143
No, it was with her old bf
