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NIGHT VS DAY
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>>67662024
Tony is the night?
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>>67662024
>>67662024
METAL VS HARDER METAL
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I don't think I could ever care about this movie.
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well at least its more feasible for Cap to be able to take on Iron Man than it is to think Batman has a chance against Superman

so in a way this movie could be taken more serious
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>>67662024
LAUGHING MAN VS MANLET
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>>67662024
Corn flakes vs Cheerios
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AAARGH TONY HELP ME, TONY'S TRYING TO KILL ME
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>>67662024
cap vs braaaaaaaaaaapppppp
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OP VS HETEROSEXUALITY
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Capitalist vs Idealist
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>>67662024
virgin vs playboy
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>>67662427
>its more feasible for Cap to be able to take on Iron Man than it is to think Batman has a chance against Superman
it isn't.
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I wonder what bullshit action they are going to make Tony do to make it seem like he's not right.

Is he going to kill a baby?
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VIRGIN VS LOVELACE
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>>67664244
It is
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I wouldn't mind beating your capeshit spamming ass
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I think it's funny Marvel fans are harping about too much destruction in DC movies but then the final fight in Civil War is 6 guys in costumes fighting in a parking lot. Way to move too far in the opposite direction guys.
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>>67664898
Two guys in costume fighting on a roof is so much better though
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>>67662024
Captain of America versus the man of Iron.
Boys mmmmmmmmmm
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>>67664250
hes not right and never was
but it wont be hard, its literally caps movie.
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>>67664818
But in that comic Vision phased through Tony and completely disabled his armor. It was literally
>HELP ME VISION
All captain cuck did was beat a man trapped in a metal suit unable to move.
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>>67664975
>hes not right and never was
he was always right.
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>>67665004
no he wasnt, but nice try government shill
tony was an assbackwards retard in the civil war storyline.
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>>67664979
And when Iron Man fought him the first time he suckerpunched Cap when he didn't have his shield.

The Last AoU movie he was going toe-to-toe with Ultron, tanked a blast from Iron Man no problem, and was ripping those robots apart like wet newspaper.

In the last Iron Man movie the suit got destroyed when a truck hit it.

I'm not saying Cap has the advantage, just that its a lot closer than people make it seem.
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Is he going to be another /r9k/ villain?
He has the look already.
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>>67665033
>tony was an assbackwards retard in the civil war storyline.

Not really, but you didn't actually read it. Big dumb cross over events always have conflicting stories. Cap was wrong and then he died. Tony was right.
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>>67664250
>Implying there will be a winner and/or a loser
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>>67665004
>Make all your own villains
>Other avengers are just there to help clean up Tony's shit.
>Hurr WE need to be put in check. WE need to be held accountable
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>>67665077

Is he the bad guy from ghost rider?
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>>67665108
There's no "I" in Avengers.
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>>67665108
>I want to be an avenger with all of the benefits but none of the negatives!

sounding a lot like a woman, m8
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>>67662024
>Iron Man
>super hero

He has a power orb in his torso wtf good is that
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>>67665175
>TONY THEY WANT ME TO ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY ACTIONS, HELP!
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>>67665175
>I want to be an avenger with all of the benefits but none of the negatives!


I have no idea where you got this from.
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>>67665087
not even close
tony was a shill for the government to register all supers and basically use them as they see fit
the same government that oh so recently had shown cap how corrupt it had gotten.
tony was straight up wrong and not only was he wrong he was a complete and utter asshole about it, going so far as to imprison caps side in a supposedly enescapable alternate dimension
and oh yeah beat spiderman literally to an inch of his life for daring to maybe disagree with how things were going
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>>67665236
>going so far as to imprison caps side in a supposedly enescapable alternate dimension
Isn't this the plot from Coon & Friends?
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>>67665261
what?
i dont remember but probably, i mean southpark loves to spoof thing and civil war was a big clusterfuck at the time
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>AAAAAAGGGGHHH HELP ME STEVE
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>>67665308
Yeah, Cartman has Cthulhu trap all his friends in an alternate dimension because they kicked him out of the club that operated from his own basement.
Except for MINT BERRY CRUNCH!
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>>67665333
I'm reminded of one of those cross-over events DC and Marvel had. In it, Cap fought Batman, lost, and then Bats saved him from drowning. Essentially
>ALTERNATE UNIVERSE TONY HELP, I CAN'T SWIM IN POOP!
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>>67662427

The fight in BvS was one of a relatively small number of good parts in the movie. Don't you shit on it, it's all I've got.
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>>67665346
oh yeah, fuck i used to love that show
im sure it had to be a reference
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>>67665383
>Cap losing to Marthaman

How? Was the universe inside Bruce's head?
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>>67665415
I think the outcomes of the fights were decided by polls.
>Wolverine beats Lobo
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>>67665415
dc doesn't agree to crossover events unless batman wins.
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>>67665402
You haven't seen those episodes? They were great. They finally explained how Kenny can die and keep coming back.
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>>67665492
i saw them, its been so long though
6 years anon
i might just go look them up. thanks for the reminder
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>>67665539
No problem.
>Captain Hindsight, the Hero of the Modern Age!
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>>67665088

Marvel execs will be the winners

General film audiences will be the losers
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>>67662255
That was the last time they spoke as friends.
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>>67665064

but that was a weaker ultron

in avengers 1 iron man was fighting thor
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>>67665595
How will we lose when we get nice spectacle to forget our worries with?
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>>67664107
no one can beat op
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>>67662024
But why would Tony get close to him?
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>>67665679

To punch him you retard.
What, you think he's going to shoot lasers or something? Or missiles? Bullets? Have some robot fight for him? Fuck that.
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>>67665427
obv. logan paid lobo to take a dive
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>>67665714
But, I mean, it's not like Cap could do anything except throw his shield and if Tony catches it, I mean, I'm sorry.
>>67665724
Another fight ended with Aquaman dropping an orca on Namor.
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>>67665622
You mean when Iron Man was barely holding his own against a Thor who just wanted to go find his brother until Cap intervened.

Yeah it was a "weaker" Ultron. But Cap still took him on without much a problem. He took a blast from Iron Man when they were fighting over the cradle and shoved it off as if it were nothing. In the trailer for this movie he dodges a blast from less than a foot away.

Again, I'm not saying that Cap has the advantage here. Just that people treat him like he's on the same tier as Black Widow and Hawkeye when fighting Iron Man is really not that far of a stretch.
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>>67662763
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>>67665741
And if Iron Man stays far away Cap is just going to dodge that shit/block it with his shield.

If tony really wants to do any damage to Cap, aside from something like Getting the Hulkbuster then he'll have to get in close, and if he gets in close there is a good chance he's going to get ripped apart.
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>>67665064
all iron man does nowadays is shoot laser beams that are only as strong as the plot requires them to be

iron man from the first film would have 10 guns pop out of his shoulders and light up cap with the heat-seeking aiming computer they use

hell iron man shrugged off a fucking direct hit from a tank shell in the first film. i hate how hes been such a jobber starting with and since the first avengers
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>>67665625

>He actually enjoys capeshit

Mad Max was a spectacle, Marvel movie #328 will be just as boring and soulless as the last.
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>>67665770
>He took a blast from Iron Man when they were fighting over the cradle and shoved it off as if it were nothing.

see

>>67665824


iron man can use actual bullets, but since iron man 1/2 he only uses CGI lasers that vary in strength depending on what the plot requires it to be
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>>67665841
>He actually enjoys capeshit
S-so?
>Marvel movie #328 will be just as boring and soulless as the last.
Well if it stays the same it'll be fine by me.
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>>67665824
Fair point. I'll give that to you.

However, Cap was also able to take out that jet by throwing a goddamn metal frisbee at it, and he can dodge bullets, see >>67665064.

I don't see how being able to inflict damage and take hits from penultimate form Ultron isn't comparable to Iron Man.

Again, not saying Cap is the clear winner here or anything, just that its not Mr Magoo vs Goku like some people make it out to be.
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>>67664250

*Kill Bucky
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>>67665882

Fair enough, I just don't understand the appeal. You know none of the characters are in any real danger right? The movie execs want to just keep milking the various story lines, it takes all of the excitement and creativity out of the movies.
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>>67665953
>You know none of the characters are in any real danger right?
Of course not, it's just a movie. People don't actually die in movies.
Seriously speaking though, why is it that a certain type of person can only be interested in a story if people die in it? Why are you so fascinated with death?
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>>67665972

I said characters, not actors, learn basic vocabulary.

The plot armor on those guys is impenetrable.
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>>67665953

Don't most people assume that Cap actually dies in this movie and Bucky will become the new Captain?
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>>67666019
>Seriously speaking though
That part right there? That's there to signify I was joking. Please don't get your panties in a twist.
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*tips fedora while stepping out of the shadows*

The pitiful peons at Marvel have underestimated the power of DC one time too many. The "Marvel Cinematic Universe". Huh. A shoddily shot, messily put together series of soulless and artless wastes of celluloid designed to appeal to the base intellects of moronic manchildren still dreaming of becoming powerful as they waste their lives away masturbating to images of Black Widow.

Only a fool and a weakling of mind could gain satisfaction from watching poorly animated CGI trade weightless and impactless punches while trading quips a severely mentally retarded Thai ladyboy would find beneath him/her.

DC understand cinéma. They understand kino. DC know how to build shade and light in a performance, how to engage the minds of true enlightened souls. DC have redefined not just superhero films, but the entire film industry itself.

Mentally challenged Marvel fanboys can only begin to grasp the tectonic shift in filmmaking that has been unleashed. Critics and reviewers fail to recognize a movie far ahead of its time once again, crying on their blogs about lack of snark and quipping - failing to recognize a literal masterpiece as it unfolds before them.

The public have responded. The entire filmmaking industry has been shaken to its core. DC have changed the game utterly - a new landscape is carved, a beauty is born, a God walks among men.

*teleports away*
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>>67666019

>Learn basic vocabulary.

Talk for yourself brah
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>>67666019
The main characters of 99% of movies don't die.
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>>67666034
Bucky puts on Steve's uniform and cries. It still smell like him.
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>>67666068

But when you have characters this powerful fighting each other, the fleshy ones without any superpowers should get pulverized in a fucking second. It's shitty, boring writing that saps the films of all dramatic tension.
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>>67666157
That's not creepy at all, go buck yourself.
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>>67662024
D R O P P E D
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>>67666174
Alright man, that's a fair opinion to have.
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>>67666174
>it's not dark and edgy
>I'll hate on it so everyone can see how mature and intelligent I am!
Anon, please. Who goes into a movie like this expecting "dramatic tension"? It's there to be mindless fun, and it is just that.
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>>67666034

Congrats, now how many Marvel movies have come out without any major loss or tragedy for the main characters? At LEAST 15-20 by now.
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>>67666217
>AT LEAST 15-20
But there's not that many of them
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>>67666174

That's just retarded
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>>67664250
Except he is right.
Look at the actions from all the other Marvel movies. Majority are fuck ups from the hero that cost people lives.

Cap just wants to be judge judy and executioner
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>>67666217

>o-oh yeah but what about the other movies?

TOP FUCKING KEK
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>>67662024
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>>67666217
>have come out without any major loss or tragedy for the main characters

So if a movie doesn't end horrifically for a main character its a bad movie?

Again, 99% of movies have the protagonist succeeding at defeating whatever the source of their conflict is.
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>>67666217

>backpedalling this hard
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>>67666217

It's funny how your two base assumptions

>A movie is only good if it ends tragically for a main character
And
>Civil War won't end tragically

Are both so easily proven wrong and how BTFO you are right now
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>>67666242

Why?

>>67666236

Since 2005 there have been 37 movies based off Marvel characters.

If you take out the movies nobody cares about you have about 20-25 existing in the MCU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_Marvel_Comics
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>>67665064
In Winter soldier they bring that up in the boat scene. That guy challenges Cap to a fight without his shield and holds his own.
This suit is made of Nanotech, you can tell from the glove scene. Its called the Bleeding edge armor in the comics and its extremely OP

Lets also not forget that Caps shield isnt Mjolnir, it can be caught and used against him, like Bucky did in Winter Soldier and Spiderman takes it from him in the trailer
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>>67666326
>37 movies based off Marvel characters
Oh, I thought you were talking about MCU specifically.
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>>67666340
>Spidey takes the shield
>runs away
>Cap is exposed now
Good plan, good plan.
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>>67666262
>Look at the actions from all the other Marvel movies. Majority are fuck ups from the hero that cost people lives.

You mean like Captain America who fucked peoples lives up by stopping a Nazi rogue science division from destroying civilization in his first movie, or when he stopped a covert government takeover that would have killed millions and installed a totalitarian regime?

Or Ant-Man who was asked to help stop a crazy psycho from selling an immensely powerful weapon to that same shady organization from the Cap movies?

or GotG who joined together to stop an asshole from blowing up a planet?

or Thor who stopped his brother's takeover of Earth/space elves from destroying the dimension

Only one where you're kind of right about this is Hulk, but he became the Hulk by total accident.
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>>67662763
underrated
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>>67666357

>Spiderman doesn't do anything in the movie except take the shield and run away

Would pay to see
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>>67665184
>captain america
>superhero

He just has peak physical status. Anyone could get that if they put their mind to it.
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>>67665415
Batman is the definition of Mary sue.
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>>67666382

Falcon is peak physical. Cap is superhuman
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>>67666340
>That guy challenges Cap to a fight without his shield and holds his own.

Not really. Cap is kind of fighting him halfheartedly and then wrecks him immediately after he challenges him.
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>>67666405
in TWS opening, cap is jogging faster than usain bolt sprints
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>>67666382
Very, very not true.
>>67665064
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Why doesn't Iron Man just make a Vibranium suit.
Also who's his AI now that Jarvis is Jultron
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>>67666436
>Why doesn't Iron Man just make a Vibranium suit.
Because T'challa is hogging it all.
>Also who's his AI now that Jarvis is Jultron
Some chick who became Ultron's girlfriend in the comics.
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>>67666217
but Tonys PTSD what developed from the first
Avengers movie lead into Ultron and is now leading into Civil War
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>>67666044
if this isn't pasta it deserves to be
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>>67666405

What is Falcon's superpower anyway
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>>67666521
Black Sidekick.
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>>67666521
Nothing

He can fly, and he's a good fighter.

Also he sometimes is able to talk to birds.
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>>67666478

>Tony's PTSD

People with PTSD usually have a lot more problems than Tony has shown in the last few movies.
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>>67666432
Comic Cap is a mary sue, yes

Movie Cap is literally even stated as having no super powers but is the Peak potential a human can be.
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>>67666566
So that means he doesn't have it? Because its not as severe?

Also get
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>>67666566
He is literally tempermental and paranoid about everything.
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diamond vs dragonforce
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TEAM CAP
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>>67666566
it's a comic book movie not a drama
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Team Robert Downhere Jr vs Team Slut Shaming
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>>67666585

Nah it just means that he's a poorly developed character.

>>67666598

Yeah that's why he keeps making jokes and quips.
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>>67666573
You mean like how Superman is also only supposed to be faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and not able to fly?

I don't remember the scene in the first avenger where they specifically said "Captain America has no superpowers". They merely tossed around that incredibly vague concept that Captain America is "the pinnacle of human potential".

Then showed him in all the subsequent movies doing superhuman things.
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IF 6 REPEATING 6S THEN TEAM TONY WINS
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>>67666655
What superhuman thing does he do? Name 1 please. 1 thing that if a human trained their entire life wouldnt be able to do.

Shield moves dont count.
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>>67666643
Are we ignoring the fact that he literally got triggered by a child's drawing
Also quips/humour is a very common coping mechanism
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>>67666681
He tossed a 600 lb motorcycle in that anon's gif
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>>67666044
This is the cringiest pasta I've seen. Fitting that it begins with fedora tipping
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>>67666573

MCU cap does shit that no human being can approach. Maybe in Marvel land he is "peak" human, but Marvel has set that theoretical peak is so fucking far from any actual human that the difference becomes purely semantic. Whether or not we're calling them "super powers," he's super fucking powerful.
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>>67666728
T-that's not superhuman! I could totally do that but I just don't feel like it, okay?
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>>67666643

Just stop dude. You're embarassing yourself
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>>67666740
Hello DCuck
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>>67666681

Uh that gif?
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>>67666662

Almost
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>>67666643

You have no idea what PTSD is, do you
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>>67666666
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>>67666768
Actually I'm a Marveldrone :^)
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>>67666217
Quicksilver
Agent Coulson
Thor's mum
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>>67666822
lame
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>>67666849

>Agent Coulson

About that...
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>>67666638

Team Slutshaming all day every day
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>>67666681

Incoming autism, just off the top of my head there is:

Surviving being frozen in ice for 70 years

Holding a motorcycle over his head with 3 women sitting on it without it being any trouble

Punching through the pressurized glass of a submersible

Punching/kicking multiple thugs so hard they go flying into the air/backwards far beyond what a normal human could do

Jumping out of a jet without a parachute(at that height it would still kill/severely fuck up any normal human, even over water

Jumping off that ledge/cliff thing in the Winter Soldier, right before that

Withstanding blows from a Norse god (Loki)

Multiple instances of him leaping much farther than a normal human is capable (helicarrier scene in avengers and that bridge scene with the red skull in TFA

Kicking a heavy wooden desk so hard in flies across a floor and takes out multiple chitauri

Dodging/withstanding lazerblasts (multiple instances, Avengers and AoU

Lifting the Winter Soldier off the ground and choking him with one arm.

Getting punched in the fave by Quicksilver and surviving

Punching a heavy bag off its chain so hard it goes flying back several feet

Throwing a motorcycle at a humvee

Finally I don't care if this is a shield feat, but I'm including it anyway. In the opening scene of AoU he throws the shield, has it hit like a dozen guys then manages to catch it all while basically doing an obstacle course on the bike. No human is capable of processing and calculating trajectories and multitasking like that.
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>>67665064
Yeah but still comes down to the fact that Iron Man is a fucking moron that doesn't rain bullets and missiles down on his flightless enemies in every movie.
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>>67666044
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it...
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>>67666744
And yet compared to people in his own universe hes just displaying peak potential. Neither Ironman or Cap are superhuman.

That Gif, while insanely stupid, could be done if trained right. Strongmen could toss 400lbs like that but arent agile enough to flip over the handlebars. Stuntmen are agile enough but cant lift 400lbs. Captain America is just peak in every catagory, olympian tier at everything.

If you looked through his DNA youd find no irregularitys.
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>>67666926
There's also

>Blocked a hammer blow from Thor himself with his shield
>Is strong enough to pull super-powerful magnetic cuffs off the wall
>has to be restrained with special manacles made specifically for his super strength
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Colonel Sanders vs the Iron Giant!
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>>67666973

>Regular humans could easily do this if they were superhuman

Alright there champ
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>>67666973

You're either joking or an idiot.
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>>67666978

>blocked Thor's hammer

That's actually more a shield feat than his feat.
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>>67667025
His arm didn't shatter into a billion pieces
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>>67667025
Bucky holding the shield still got blasted off the train.
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>>67667036
Of course not, the shield is vibranium and absorbs all impacts.
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>>67666973
So what you're saying is despite the mountain of evidence of him being superhuman, he's not superhuman.

>If you looked through his DNA youd find no irregularitys.

Maybe. If you checked his blood you'd go "wow, whats this substance that lets you run faster than a car and be immune to poisons"?
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>>67667036
The shield absorbs any impact
>>67667036
Really? I don't remember that
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>>67667064
Meant for
>>67667045
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>>67666973
>olympians are superhuman

Okay pal. Are you 12?
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>>67667045
Bucky had the SSS too.
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>>67666973
>Strongmen could toss 400lbs like that

No... No they couldn't
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>>67667077
That's how Bucky "died."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScQvBVzrhgI
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>>67666973
You're just holding onto this idea that he isn't superhuman because it says somewhere he isn't.

To put it in perspective how dumb that is, Marvel considers anyone capable of lifting 800lbs over their head.

They then show Captain America benchpressing 2200lbs.

They then show him performing feats beyond even that.

But they still categorize him as "peak human" because someone wrote that down in his character bio 70 years ago, just like superman wasn't able to fly.

By Marvel's very definitions, he's superhuman.
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>Neutrality/Captain America
vs.
>Evil/Iron Man

Just like BvS actually.
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>>67667147
*800lbs over their head superhuman
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>>67667157
You forgot
>Good/Spider-man
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>>67667126

Huh true.
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>>67667157

>Ironman
>evil

He's literally right
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>>67665916
>Mr Magoo vs Goku
Coming to cinemas next summer
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>>67667147
And you're looking at my arguement thinking Im saying anyone can do these feats at the moment when Im not. He is peak human POTENTIAL. He is what youd get if you spliced the top olympians together.
Theoretically if you lived long enough you could condition your body to be that of Captain Americas. He isnt immune to normal human weaknesses, he gets shot and killed in the Civil War comics.

The Super Soldier Serum just put him ahead of the pack.
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>>67665184
Hes insanely smart. Its as much a power as Caps insane physique.
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>>67667297
Except he's not.

The strongest human alive will never hold a motorcycle over his head with 3 women perched on it while he sings a song without missing a beat.

The most agile man alive will not dodge a laserbeam.

The most durable man alive will not survive jumping out of a jet at a height and speed where normal humans require parachutes.

The smartest/most tactical man alive is not going to be able to assess a battle field, calculate the trajectory of a throw that's going to hit multiple targets and return to him and navigate extremely rough terrain on a motorcycle going at top speed all within less than a second.
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>>67665184
The arc reactor is more power than Batman's got.
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>>67667297

If you picked every top feat of every peak human ever, Cap would still beat them handily by a margin

See >>67666427
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>>67664244
It really is. Cap's shield is immune to most of Ironman's attacks.
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>>67667297
Theoretically you could not train your body to be that of Captain America because you can't be top tier in multiple categories.

If you train for strength, you're sacrificing agility.

If you train for raw speed, you're sacrificing endurance.

So on, so forth. There's a reason Offensive Lineman in football, while believe it or not despite their frame are actually in great shape, are incredibly powerful yet slow as fuck.
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>>67667208
>>67667126

Yeah, the movies are inconsistent about how the shield works.
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>>67667388

>The strongest human alive will never hold a motorcycle over his head with 3 women perched on it while he sings a song without missing a beat.

Kinda like people thought it would be impossible to list thousands of pounds on your back?

>The most agile man alive will not dodge a laserbeam.

What Lazer beam? I must be forgetting something

>The most durable man alive will not survive jumping out of a jet at a height and speed where normal humans require parachutes.

Into water...Lets not forget the MCU is pretty stupid even with regular "non- serumd" humans.

>The smartest/most tactical man alive is not going to be able to assess a battle field, calculate the trajectory of a throw that's going to hit multiple targets and return to him and navigate extremely rough terrain on a motorcycle going at top speed all within less than a second.

Lets look at Matt Murdock for this. Is he superhuman? Because he was TRAINED to be able to hear the breaths of trained ninjas within a second of even thinking of doing that, all the while beating them...while blind.

You dont know how human evolution will pan out. But by MCU canon, he isnt considered superhuman, but the next step of human evolution. Hes peak human status that sometimes accomplishs feats some would consider miracles.

If he is superhuman, as is basically everyone in the MCU, including Hawkeye and Black widow.
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>>67667638

Hawkeye and Black Widow are superhuman. That's why they are Avengers
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>>67667682
So youre saying anyone can be superhuman if they train hard enough?
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>>67664898
The airplane fight is early on in the movie... The final fight is the Cap, Bucky, and Iron man fight
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>>67667638
>Kinda like people thought it would be impossible to list thousands of pounds on your back?

People still don't "list thousands of pounds on their back" The world record for Deadlift, (the strongest lift a human can do, which is not lifted on your back)is according to google 1180lbs. Half of what Cap has been seen benching.

>What Lazer beam? I must be forgetting something

He dodges one of Iron Man's hand blasts at point blank in the trailer for civil war. There are also instances of him dodging lazers from Ultron and Hydra agents in the earlier movies.

>Into water...Lets not forget the MCU is pretty stupid even with regular "non- serumd" humans.

Again, the fact that its in water makes no difference. Moving at that speed water has the surface tension of concrete.

>You can't play it off just because "lol its dumb".

Lets look at Matt Murdock for this. Is he superhuman? Because he was TRAINED to be able to hear the breaths of trained ninjas within a second of even thinking of doing that, all the while beating them...while blind.

Matt Murdock has a radar sense that is essentially better than eyesight regardless. Thats reacting to that as if a human with eyesight would. Its not calculating and executing incredibly complex maneuvers and abilities at breakneck speed while multitasking.

>You dont know how human evolution will pan out. But by MCU canon, he isnt considered superhuman, but the next step of human evolution. Hes peak human status that sometimes accomplishs feats some would consider miracles.

Nowhere does it say he's "the next step of human evolution." Red Skull might have said something about that on his Nazi tirades (We have left humanity behind Captain)
but thats pretty much it. But assuming you're right, he IS NOT HUMAN and does things HUMANS ARE INCAPABLE OF DOING, then he IS SUPERHUMAN.
C'MON! LETS GET BIG[/SPOILER]
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>>67666973
> tossbikeathumvee.gif
> That Gif, while insanely stupid, could be done if trained right.
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stop arguing this retard completely forgets the fact that cap has super healing which makes all his other physical feats double in effectiveness

peak human ability is black panther, and while cap has more potential physical strength, he's not a master martial artist with a deity inside of him
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>>67667714

Yeah sure, just like Goku. He isn't superhuman he just trained hard enough
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>>67667849
But Goku's not even human in the first place. Surely you meant to say Yamcha.
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>>67667833

Why are his laughs so contagious
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stop arguing this retard completely forgets the fact that cap has super healing which makes all his other physical feats double in effectiveness. cap is superhuman by OUR standards

peak human ability is black panther, and while cap has more potential physical strength, he's not a master martial artist with a deity inside of him. black panther is superhuman by OUR standards
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>>67667874
Because they're pure.
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>>67667837

Seriously. Cap can't even get drunk
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>>67667064
He jumped off a 12 story and survived

Blocked a grenade with the shield, went flying through a bus and lived
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>>67667893
With enough training you can change your metabolism so you can't get drunk, that doesn't count and therefore he's not superhuman, herkaderpaderp.
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>>67667894
>He jumped off a 12 story and survived

>Blocked a grenade with the shield, went flying through a bus and lived

Not just "lived". He got up from these as if he had slipped and fallen on his ass.

But according to anon here if I train at getting launched through a bus my whole life, I can too do that too.
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>>67667941
youre a retard
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>>67667882
Black Panther can summon the dead.... Hea far past peak human. Thats like saying Hulk is peak human
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>>67666681
See gif.
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>>67668064
Black Panther is on approximate level with Captain America. Cap has better raw stats like strength and speed, BP has better agility and senses.

That's heart shaped herb BP though, I think when he became the death god or whatever he got major stat boosts.
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>>67667638
just shut the fuck up holy shit you're clearly wrong
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>>67668062

Herkaderpaderp
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>>67668064
panther is described as peak human intelligience and physical attributes, just like Batman, but he;s had stuff added over the years like the king of the dead. which iteration we are getting in this universe though I have no idea.
>>67668102
>Cap has better raw stats like strength and speed
but then we see BP out pace a speeding car, jump on it and swing at bucky on a motorcycle while outpacing captain america. as I said I have no idea what version we are getting
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SJW VS JEW
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>>67665383
I thought they squared off, circled each other a bit, did two limp wristed strikes and then both decided they were a match for each other and decided to talk it out.
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>>67668169
True but Cap's power level seems to be escalating movie by movie. For all we know he gets stabbed in the leg or some shit before the chase.
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>>67668209
>Captain America vs Black King Wakanda
Basically same as White american vs black kenyan
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>>67668169
Its already been established you cant say described as.

From what we've seen

>Kicks BUCKY hard enough he flies back and breaks what looks like a power transformer
Super Strength

>Outruns Captain America and catchs Bucky on a motorcycle
Super Speed

If Cap is superhuman, it pretty much stands to reason so is Black Panther, but thats just from what we've seen, we dont know the context.
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>>67668465
>If Cap is superhuman, it pretty much stands to reason so is Black Panther,
I already stated that>>67667882
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>>67668465
He just says he doesn't know which BP we're getting. Theres also one where he's an actual necromancer.
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>>67667874
Because it's the peak human of laughs
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>>67667977
Have you ever take a bath, and incresed the temperature little by little? theoretically you can survive in lava if you do this.
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>>67668530

Topkek
Someone again say he doesn't have superpowers
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Basically everyone in the Avengers is superhuman in some way. The difference being that its easier to take Caps shield then it is to take Ironmans suit, so with Tonys insane knowledge and the suit vs Caps insane physical stature and his shield, Ironman has the advantage, which is shown when he not only is holding his own vs Cap in hand to hand combat, but looks to be winning in a context of Cap says "I can do this all day" when getting his ass beat in TFA
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>>67668590

Yeah Cap is clearly the underdog here, but he has justice and the moral highground on his side!
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>>67668632
>highground

Can Ironman spin like sheev?
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>>67668632
Cap's shield also spins.
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>>67668667
>Cap is commiting Treason against the Government (senate)

Pottery
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>very serious discussion
>about fictional characters and their fictional super powers

oh boy, this can only end well
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>>67668706
It's actually going quite well.

It usually turns to shit when someone makes a post like yours.
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>>67668576
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>>67668706
>about fictional characters
just like the majority of film and tv
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Basically MCU Cap is stronger than Marvel 616 Cap (Peak Human) but weaker than Marvel Ultimate Cap (Super Human).
He's definitely Super human tho
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How does Warmachines suit even work? Tony has that super element reactor in his chest but what's the powersource for Warmachine?
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>>67668789
Marvel 616 cap has superhuman feats too but you are right in terms of MCU cap being in the middle and ultimate cap being strongest
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>>67668814
An arc reactor....

Tonys arc reactor is part of him, but you can weaponize it. Did you even watch ironman 1?
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>>67668830
I wanna see more feats during CW, we already saw him holding the helicopter and various power moves in AoU but damn I want more
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>>67665333
So is the symbolism here supposed to be that Tony Stark is St. Peter, or the Pope? Does he represent the desire to do good which is often muddled by over zealousness and poor judgment, or is he meant to represent the bloated beurocracy of trying to do good?

Probably neither. Marvel doesn't try to make true capekino and it's probably all a coincidence.
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>>67668832
>is part of him
Not anymore it's not.
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>>67668876
Same. Caps my favourite because he's powerful enough to really amaze you when he does something, but not so strong you stop giving a shit and lose empathy
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>>67668888
fucking nice digits
>>67668923
can't wait for Cap to beat Tony's ass and I also love the "I can do this all day" struggling Cap is inspiring
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>>67668946
Yeah. Cap is the best Avenger by far.
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>>67668962
>>67668923

It's funny because I feel the same, but when I first heard about a Captain America movie my only opinion of him was "Who the fuck gives a shit about Captain America?"
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>>67668994
This. The very concept for his character seems silly and uninteresting, yet it works.
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>>67668994
I felt the same away because I'm not American. I thought The First Avenger would be all rah rah jingoism, but I walked out super impressed at just what an awesome guy he was.
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>>67666638
>Robert Downhere Jr
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>>67662024
BANE VS CIA
FLIGHT PLAN VS PLANE CRASHING

THE BIG GUYS ARE COMING
THE BIG GUYS ARE COMING
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>>67669072
Who are they coming for?
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>>67669098
for these digits
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>>67669098
Twenty years in /tv/. How many big guys are left? How many stay that way?
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A VS I
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>>67662024
>>67669098
>Civil liberties are being trampled on your board; good shitposters living in fear.
>Don't believe everything you hear, son.
>I've seen it, Mr. Janitor. They think they're above the law.
>Baneposters criticizing those who think they're above the law is a little hypocritical, wouldn't you say? Considering every time a faggot posts a CIA in a thread, you write a puff piece reply to a shitposter who, if he wanted to, could burn the whole place down. There wouldn't be a damn thing we can do to stop it.
>Most of 4chan doesn't share your opinion, Mr. Janitor.
>Maybe it's that Reddit and me... we just have a bad history with freaks trolling with memes.
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>>67668906
Huh? When did it get taken out? I dont really remember Iron man 2 or 3 that much. Either way, the suits are all powered by Arc reactors.
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>>67669349
The end of 3.
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>>67669362
Thanks pham
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>>67662024
DAYMAN FIGHTER OF THE NIGHTMAN
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>250 fucking posts to argue on the fucking winner in a children movie
Fuck you
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>>67669741

>STOP HAVING FUN
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>>67662024
BOX OF X VS STATION OF PLAY
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>>67669741
I heard you like Mudkips.
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>>67667638
matt murdock does have super powers, thats clearly stated that he got them during the accident that sent him blind, thats why his sense are SO good, not just stick tier
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APPLE VS FBI
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BANE VS CIA
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>>67662024
Muh Bucky vs Muh Rhodey
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>>66666666
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>>67667430
>shield covering only 30% oh his fleshly body
>implying his shitty muscles can compete with robot hands
>Iron Man Armor has dozens of weapons like shooting lasers, rockets and dildos
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>>67664250
You're down with the government being able to deploy weapons of mass destruction at whatever they feel like?
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>>67671592
I thought they established that the shield absorbs any kind of damage or some shit. That's how he did not get buried to the ground when Thor hit him with the hammer.
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>>67667638
Hawkeye has super powers, his eyes are really good. ''hawk eye'' he can see well and has precision.
Matt Murdoch has super powers, that was explained during his accident.
Blackwidow has no powers as far as I know.

list of superheros who have no actual powers
Punisher
BW
Iron Man
Ant Man
Nigger in the metal bird costume
Nigger in the STOLEN Iron man costume
thats all I can think of.
maybe bucky/ winter soldier. I assume he was given serum, or does he just have the cool arm?
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>>67672085
BW has a shitty soviet version of super serum
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>>67665133
no, the bad guy from Inglorious Basterds
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>>67662427
preptime batman is the strongest superhero in the DC multiverse, dipshit.
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