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agreed
>>67605968
>>67606077
KING OF /tv/
"you flew too close to the son of krypton"
How can Marvel even hope to compete against this piece of beautiful art?
The first 5 minutes of Batman v Superman has more intellectual and artistic merit than the entirety of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
>>67606204
>>67605968
I never got the significance of the bats lifting him up
Luthor and Zod were more complex villains than anyone depicted in a MCU film.
>>67606238
Then you don't belong here
What's with the Excalibur references?
>>67606238
jesus fucking christ, no wonder people are hating on this movie. even simple scenes can't be interpreted
>>67606238
In his dreamed he imagined the bats bringing him to some sense of safety and security in his life, when it's been nothing like that at all.
>>67606238
Something about him ascending to his new life as Batman or whatever. It was just a dream anyway.
>>67605968
>>67606204
lmao didn't batman begins have this exact same scene...
snyder just copying nolan lmao
>>67606204
sadly enough, this is actually the case although I'd bet that Daredevil has a couple of beautiful scenes
I know it sounds strange but why has literally none of the MCU movies tried to be intellectual or artsy? I mean it doesn't ALWAYS have to be solely about money, you can also make a movie beautifully shot
Ayo hol up
What the fuck was Lux going on about at the end in his cell? More bads are coming from space?
>>67606257
>>67606285
calm down, jeez. I got most of the movie and liked it. I noticed that the funeral, for instance, followed by the wayne tower collapsing was to juxtapose those two events in Batman's life so we could understand what that did to him on an emotional and psychological level, i just didn't understand that bit
>>67606399
Reddit's down the hall and to the left.
>>67605968
This scene was truly beautiful in IMAX. Hans Zimmer score just takes it to another level as well.
I honestly just want solo Batman films I don't care about any of the other Justice League members.
>>67606446
>don't ask questions on a film when you want other's input
okay
>>67605968
Really touching scene desu
We've finally moved on from Nolan's realism
Literally becoming the bat.
Transition after going into the light.
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster..."
Later Bruce dreams of getting eaten by a big bat.
CAPEKINO HAS ARRIVED
>>67606399
GET OUT
JUST PACK YOUR SHIT AND LEAVE REDDIT
>>67605968
I knew dumb people would complain about this scene.
>>67606391
Yes check the deleted scene up on YouTube if you don't believe.
I love how Snyder is basically infusing his villains with demons and devils. His next movie will be spooky as fuck if done right
>>67606511
I seriously want to know which retard is responsible for the horrible pacing. that asshole literally deserves a flock in his heart
this could've easily been a 9/10 if it had been properly paced, even with all the JL cameos in it
Plebs can't understand true art, what a surprize.
The sheeple can't see the brilliant satire of BvS. It is a warped mirror held in front of capeshit, throwing it back in it's own face. It's not afraid to say this genre is shit, and it shows you with visionary brilliance just how shit it can be. It is an artistic statement about the current state of cinéma. The "people" who don't "get it" are the same ones who don't understand how a urinal can be considered modern art. They don't understand the artist's statement.
>>67605968
the one issue i have about Batfleck is that when he puts on the cowl he doesn't seem more comfortable/himself. it feels like Bruce wearing a costume, anyone else?
>>67606561
I don't know whether I want Luthor to be a vessel for some shit
I'd rather see him in the green robosuit but considering it's Eisenberg.... hell, I'd welcome Lex Senior to show up and be the ACTUAL Lex
>>67606589
probably the same people who cut out that 30 mins of footage
we missed
>zod on the mountain top
>a knightmare about Robin and the mansion burning down
>a nightmare from sups about the MoS damage
>a long North Africa scene
Dawn of Kino
>>67605968
I just realized his silhouette looks like a bat
>arms are the wings and feet are the ears
BRAVO SNYDER
>>67606671
they CGI'd the fuck out of Gadot in this movie
>>67606511
Whoa a ripoff of a Nietzsche quote? Deep shit man...
>>67606688
They tried having her jump fifty feet in front of her and they tried getting her to fight an actual 15ft monster but she kept messing up. After the 25th take they had no choice but to cgi her fights.
>>67606688
That shot was amazing, regardless
>>67606112
SNYDER NEW KING OF /tv/
>>67606291
This guy gets it.
>>67606300
This guy probably didn't like the movie.
>>67606561
What the fuck, just saw it.
I guess that makes a bit more sense now that he's directly communicating with fucking space demons. I was confused at his speech at the end because seemed like he wanted aliens to pls go because he didn't like them having so much power compared to normal shit humans like himself.
>>67606511
>>67605968
THE KINO!
THE PURE FUCKING KINO!
>>67606783
SECOND.
fucking capeshitters
>>67606601
>using Duchamp of an example of "true art"
Ohhh so intellectual, removing an object's use and putting it on display, so deep. His ready-made shit was garbage. The only good thing he did was Étant donnés.
>le CAPEKINO elite intellectual contrarian
>rotten tomatoes is a lie and i know better than hundred reviewers
Posting it 100 times won't change reality. I'm sorry boys, but a professional reviewers opinion is far more educated and valid than yours. I know it hurts your precious feelings that the movie was shit, but its the truth.
>>67606356
Whedon attempted in AoU but he failed because the movie was a clusterfuck. You can see all that potential during the nightmare scenes and Vision last talk with Ultron.
Apart from that movie there is the double meaning on the Winter Soldier title, Cap nostalgia and his phrase about security.
>>67606757
Dude, he never used that quote. He just put it to practice. That's patrician.
Go back to plebbit red. You don't deserve greatness.
>>67606758
and that's why women can't be super heroes
>>67606480
>doesn't realize calling someone reddit is just a meme, nothing more.
welcome, newfriend. get out while you still can, there's nothing for you here.
>>67606671
>They couldn't keep the iconic shot of Supes cape blowing like a flag in the wind.
WHY???
>>67606831
Yeah he basically learned a ton of kabaal/space shit in the ship. One of which is most likely that darkseid is coming or he was probably contacting other beings
>>67606561
Hoping for this so much!
That scene where Batman is inside the house freeing those trafficked slaves was 4spoopy6me. A huge literal bat monster with demon speed.
>>67605968
>>67606112
>>67606671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnJMebOQ1uk
It's a shame given the reception to BvS got. It's Capekino but now Justice League is going to be bogged down to a measly Citizen Cape.
>>67606904
>JOHHOJ VS OLIVILO
who wins?
>>67606077
wat does it mean
>>67606904
Rotten Tomatoes rewards the run-of-the-mill, bland capeshit your rotten brains seem to enjoy. How does it feel to be so retarded to think that a percentage on a website matters jack shit when it comes to art?
>>67606112
Is he watching to the left or to the right?
Who's watching Watchmen's directors watching eyes?
>>67606632
I see what you're saying but I kinda felt the opposite. It was like there was no Bruce, there was only Batman with and without the suit. When he pretends to be drunk you get a bit of Bruce, but that's it.
I've been away for a week, one of you teenagers want to fill me in on what the fuck Kino is now?
>>67606637
>yfw Brian cranston cast as the real lex luthor
Everything would be forgiven
>>67607081
>my opinion is the correct one according to a Taiwanese soup forum and not the worlds population
Keep believing, pleb.
He tried to save us all. He tried to give us capekino. He tried to flip the genre on its axis. He did all of this: for us.
But we rejected him. We spat in his face..I, myself, am guilty of this..
But I'm awakened now. I've seen the light. Zack Snyder, the father of capekino, has called to me. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a masterpiece. It's such a masterpiece, that we're scared of it. We rejected it. We dismissed it. We cursed it. We were afraid of change..afraid to be challenged. Afraid of the possibility that capeshit could be more than funny quips and bright colors.
They could be Greek epics to the likes of which could rock us to the core.
We should be ashamed of ourselves. Ashamed that we have pushed Zachary to the depths of potential suicide. We must apologize to him..we must let him know that we understand now..we must let it be known that the Disney overlords no longer have us under their spell anymore..that we're free..that we have finally witnessed and acknowledged..capekino. We must /tv/. We must..
>>67606965
i-i've been here
>>67607056
it's a whale
This board if for art, kid
Not you cancerous shitskin <banned website> rejects
>>67606904
>a professional reviewers opinion is far more educated and valid than yours
>"not enough quips"
>"no fun"
>"too serious"
hotintellectualgirlslaughing.jpg
That scene where you were so in awe at the Grannys Piss Jar you didn't see that wheelchair coming what so ever
and then superman just stands in the fire looking at the dead bodies with his head hung
KINO
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>67607297
In crying right now. I'm sorry, Zach. I'm so so sorry.
>>67606238
He imagined that becoming Batman would save him, but it was all a lie. That's why he kills, he's lost.
>>67607374
He gets paid for his opinions. The opinion is LITERALLY so valid that it earns money. How can you dispute something that is practically fact?
>>67607426
Oh shit.
>>67606077
FISH
>>67606931
>Whedon attempted that in AoU
>>67607453
>implying I'm disputing the shilling
Not at all, friendo.
What did Snyder mean by this?
>>67605968
honestly when this scene was playing I was praying it was a fucking dream
>hurr le kid levitates with bats
>>67605968
>DC FAGS ON FULL DAMAGE CONTROL
HAHAHHAHA
WEW HAHAHAHA
>>67606077
Bruce=Ahab (he even has a whaling spear)
Clark=Moby Dick
>>67607527
Fucking died on Good Friday too
>>67607527
capekino
>>67607527
>TFW movie scholars for the next 1000 years will be scrupulously analyzing this film.
Snyder = Kubrick
>>67607527
>I watched a refn and malick flick and thought I could do it too
>>67607593
Its the Romania faggot, so next movie confirmed in gipsyland
>>67607652
MARVELFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>67607527
Dude I started slapping my friends arm the minute I saw this part and he was like "yeah yeah I see it"
>>67607453
>He gets paid for his opinions
lmao! yeah he does!!
>>67607368
saz u
>>67607650
>https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/filename/%201453506809644/
Why is it always videogame cancer? >>67607373
>>67607527
Snyder is such a genius
This movie truly is too deep for plebs. Reminder Citizen Kane and 2001 were critically panned when they first came out
>mfw a marvelfag near me says that capekino doesnt have humor
Anyone notice how Lois and Clark get baptized while retrieving the spear?
Also Lex is baptized in a pagan temple and he performs blood sacrifices to Baphomet (Communion deleted scene), the water in that temple is murky.
>>67607736
i kekd in the theater at that part
>>67607527
>that kino
uggh UGH HNNNNNNGGGG
ahh ahhhhh
woo
*tosses cabafare*
>>67607736
that scene was so fucking satisfying
>>67607777
confirmed capekino
>>67607672
whats wrong, casual
don't understand refn and malick flicks?
>>67607736
post the full one!
>>67607777
Did you notice how Lex said "demons can from above, flip the painting" which implies that angels come from below.
Now look what's happening in OP's picture.
>>67605968
>intro credits like a tv show
i should've taken the hint and leave the theater right there
>>67607873
Also the ending shot of dirt rising implies this, and after rescuing Lois Supes has to rise to the top of Lex's tower to face the demon
Batman looking around the room in puzzlement for a second after "Martha" was so good. For all his planning that genuinely perplexed him.
>>67607924
Yup. You're right about both. And Luthor's tower is the tallest in metropolis.
Only plebs don't understand the symbolism, and I'm being honest. This movie had a lot of that
>It's a DC thread
>America fights 10 year "War on Terror" after 9/11 with cheers and applause
>Zack Snyder criticizes the glamorization of warfare in Man of Steel by depicting destruction to its full extent, including topical full-on scenes of first-person-view drone strikes, therefore providing to the eye-opening analogue on domestic soil to the devastation taking place overseas every day
>Americans shit on him for it
>for Batman v Superman, Zack depicts the 20 year plight of a man at war: the moral lines he must cross, the codes/rules he must break to accomplish his mission, and how far that man can fall and be blinded from his original ideals, therefore portraying the harsh reality of the leaving and returning soldier forgotten by the American public
>Americans come after him again
He will never stop. Zack Snyder would put kino in front of his career.
>>67607873
Damn, it just gets deeper and deeper
>>67607874
>get called out he can't understand refns or malicks imagery and art
>w-w-ell you're mad
come back at me again in breakneck speed to show me how you're not upset
>>67606904
>professional reviewers opinion is far more educated
>every review blur is full snarky hyperbole and not muh Marvel
sure, ''professional'' and ''educated'' all right
The average marvel fan
>>67606671
>Wonder Woman and Batman compete as thiefs to steal Lex Luthor's data
>are present at Superman's crucifixion
>>67606904
>"professional" reviewer
you go to school for that? Pretty sure even bloggers are "professional" reviewers now
>>67608112
>capeshit fans
https://i.4cdn.org/tv/1459226421844.jpg
Go back to /co/
>>67608112
>worse than batman and robin
kek no way
>worse than catwoman
not even close.
why are people so desperate to shit on this movie? Too much hype?
>>67607527
Oh shit I didn't even catch that
>>67607736
I busted out laughing in the theater at this part. Probably the most memorable piece of the movie.
>>67608181
Yeah claims like those only make HIM look stupid.
Did anyone notice how creepy the soundtrack is? What are they trying to tell us?
>>67608039
you're fuming
Apologize.
>>67608195
I caught it on first viewing but yeah, not seeing this movie more than at least once is a tremendous disservice.
>>67607527
>put this in the movie
>comes out on Good Friday/Easter weekend
WB didn't actually move the date because of Marvel, they did it for maximum poetry
the absolute madmen
>>67607873
>>67607777
>>67607924
Alright that's it I'm about to go rewatch this in a couple hours
>>67608287
he looks like a Klaus Kinski love child
>>67608181
Because Marvel is more autistic. Autistics have a hard time understanding motivations, depth, facial clues, personality, etc.
Marveldrones see themselves as the "quirky, meanspirited playboy snob" like Ironman. They see themselves as the "innocent, nice guy, handsome" Captain America.
It's ironic because Marveldrones are anything but.
Batman is too hard to understand for them, Superman (Ubermench) is too much of an unobtainable idea for them to grasp.
>>67608287
Why should I?
I never doubted him.
>>67608287
I don't apologize to /v/ approved anti art pushers
>>67608287
I am so sorry. Cavil if you're browsing right now please tell Zach we love him.
>>67608319
kek
>>67608327
Charles do you really consider yourself deadpool? >>67608171
>>67608287
I never doubted our guy
>movie has a genuinely thoughtful story beneath it all and it took /tv/ memes to make me realize this
Who would have thought
>>67608287
Sorry bro i wan unaware of your dicapacity, its really brave of you to make flicks even tho youre retardedtheyre still shit doe
>>67605968
>>67607527
>>67607736
Snyder is brilliant from a pure visionary perspective, framing and such.
>>67608386
Seriously BvS is movie of the year at this point. Its not as bad as critics say it is, and it has spawned a shit ton of memes and ironic posting.
It's the best, juiciest, memeiest, most imagery ridden movie of the year
All Marvel has going for them is Quips and bunch of super heroes teaming up to fight shit
>>67605968
>>67606077
>>67606291
>>67606511
>>67607527
>>67607873
>>67607924
>>67607777
Literally the Bergman of our generation.
Bravo Zack, bravo.
>>67607736
>dat filename
>>67608364
Well??
It shouldn't take you this long to reply when you're constantly replying to other posts itt
>>67605968
"In the dream, they lift me into the light."
Woah dreams are so unrealistic!
>>67606649
>zod on the mountain top
>a knightmare about Robin and the mansion burning down
wait, what?!?!? what the fuck are you talking about????
also, can anyone here tell me where the fuck they are going with that Jimmy scene? they won't introduce Jimmy just to kill him off forever
>Superman speaking to his heavenly Father on the Mount of Olives before going to his death
...wow
RLM embarrassed themselves with their review. The film went clear over their heads.
>>67605968
His parents dying was kino as fuck.
>>67608552
Robin was in the cut version as well. It shows his suit with spray paint shit
>>67607179
>tfw a lot of people get the Lex they actually cried for
not saying I wouldn't like it but that shit would be hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul04AA3R4d0&t=01m32s
>>67608594
Dude! You're making wanna see it a third time.
>>67607904
I actually really liked them. Understated and simple.
>>67608413
holy shit phoneposters are the worst
>>67608598
They went in with the intention of making fun of it.
>>67608594
Wait...someone count how many senators (or should I say disciples) were sittinf the Capitol with Superman in the Grannys piss scene
>>67606883
>critic with pseudo-intellectualism
>tries to show us how much he knows about Duchamp
I pity you.
>capekino
/lit/ here, was this term originally ironic but has been co-opted by Redditors who didn't know this and thought it was real?
>tfw this scene
Only good thing to come out of that shit tier Doomsday.
>>67608745
It was ironical at first but the memes became real when Dawn of Justice premiered.
>Clark Kent brings Lois a Rose, a symbol of love and passion
>She's butt naked in the tub
>Clark Kent takes off his glasses
>meaning he's comfortable to not hide who he is around her
>also meaning that he blindly follows here
>he gets into the tub
>camera zooms in on the dropped glasses
>a splash of water (Lois having an orgasim) hits the glasses
BRAVO
>>67608745
it's just a meme, no one actually believes that BvS is high artit's still a good flick though
>>67608759
>>67608759
fuck, I just KNEW I had seen that scene somewhere but couldn't remember where
I don't give a fuck what people say, the Batman vs. Superman as well as the Doomsday vs. Superman fight were great
>>67608769
*ironic
>>67608785
In the second nightmare Bruce brings flowers to his mother's grave too
>>67608552
there is supposedly a cut scene with zod on the mountain top taunting superman
>>67608745
see >>67607373
we've been invaded /lit/
please help us get a /film/ board
Snyder should have made a Batman movie before making this movie, I think he's got some talent and could make a good grimdark Batman movie (I think a lot of this movie got butchered by the suits as evidenced by the deleted scenes and weird editing).
I kind of liked this movie but I felt like they tried to cram too much shit in to make way for some Justice League bullshit instead of building up their universe slowly (like Marvel did which worked out very well for them).
>>67608759
>tfw superman gets nuked and the sun revives him
I lost it internally in the theater
>>67608785
Wait....I haven't seen the flick but when does Lois find out that Clark Kent is Superman?
>yfw Clark rises after 3 days
>>67608887
Shit was so fucking hype, knew it the second they mentioned the nukes and was not disappointed.
>>67608019
>He will never stop. Zack Snyder would put kino in front of his career.
I wonder which executive is the one that appreciates Zackino Snyder's films and allows him so much power
Based guy desu
>Opening scene
shot of Bruce's father's tightening his fist as he prepares to charge the robber to protect his family, he gets shot.
Fight scene
>shot of Clark tightening his fist as he prepares to charge Bruce to protect his mother, he gets shot.
Later Bruce realizes that he has become the robber that kills Martha.
BRAVO SNYDER
>>67608946
you serious? like in the middle of MoS
>>67608946
In Man of Steel. She suspects that Clark is Superman, they fall in love, and they live together in BvS
Twenty eight
>>67609032
>>67609044
Shit, I ain't seen that flick either.
>>67609000
I thought Bruce's dad was the person in the building Bruce was telling to get the fuck out
>>67608954
I actually like the Jesus comparisons, even if it's a pretty lazy plot device
just makes the moment even better where alien jesus fucks up people's shit during the injustice storyline
>>67608946
Pretty sure she found out in Man of Steel m8
>>67608959
And thats the other thing, do they mention that superman gets his power from the sun in Man of Steel? I feel like that scene with him getting revived in space went over normies heads, like they dont know how superman actually got revived
So what was the fucking deal with the Duster Batman dream? Was that even a dream or was Clark seeing a vision from the future channeled through Flash who's scene is directly after it?
Or was it an alternate universe or some shit where Darkseid already conquered earth? It had to be a vision and not a dream, otherwise Batman wouldn't have clearly seen the Omega symbol, it would make no sense for him to know about Darkseid at this point.
Shit made no fucking sense.
>>67608836
/lit/ pls
>>67609085
I like them too, it fits.
>>67609077
watch both movies. they're not as bad as people say they are (if you can get by the horrible pacing in BvS, it's a pretty solid movie)
>>67609090
>do they mention that superman gets his power from the sun in Man of Steel?
Yep, after Kal gets the suit from the ship iirc, Jor tells him about his body drinking in the Sun's radiation that gives him his powers.
>>67609098
I'd like to know that too
>pretty accurate depiction of parademons
>omega symbol
>clearly flash from the future talking to him
at least some kind of explanation would've been fine or bruce NOT waking up after the flash scene but actually witnessing it while he was awake
>>67609131
From what I have read about BvS, it sounds like the flick is poorly edited.
Do you think it could have been saved in the editing room like Star Wars?
>>67609098
Alt universe where Lois dies in the future because Batman failed to protect her (as evidenced). When Darkseid returns and Superman is resurrected, because of Lois' death he cannot resist Darkseid's anti life mind control. The world falls to its knees.
It made perfect sense. It just wasn't laid out in front of you. I wish we could've spent more time in the Knightmare scenario, the aura of mystery and almost-horror was spectacular.
>>67609186
>omega symbol signaling Darkseid's arrival
>Lex's docs on meta-humans are named alpha_WW, alpha_FL, alpha_AQ, etc, signaling the Justice League's arrival.
BRAVO SNYDER
>>67609098
Xth dimension speed force collapsing memories into timeline
>>67608287
IM SORRY
>>67609098
With the para demons and the omega symbols, to him it's just a terrible nightmare but for us it's a foreshadowing to Darkseid's arrival
>>67609186
>bruce NOT waking up after the flash scene but actually witnessing it while he was awake
This. It actually just made it even more confusing. It would make sense if the flash just flat out visited him from the future. But then it cuts to him waking up so it implies that it was a dream
shit was just weird. Even the dream itself
>>67609186
>at least some kind of explanation would've been fine or bruce NOT waking up after the flash scene but actually witnessing it while he was awake
He was awake. You can see the papers Flash's entrance flung around Bruce flying around even after he "wakes up for real."
>>67609098
The latter. Darkseid conquered the galaxy and Superman is his henchman
In the DC universe, there is something called thr multiverse. Basically, infinite I universes with infinite possibilities, meaning infinite super heroes.
A Flash (one of many in the multiverse) jumped to a different universe (the one in the movie) to warn a our Batman. Presumably, in that Flash's universe, Superman went evil
>>67607081
How does it feel to believe a comic book movie made by Zack fucking Snyder is art. Stop ruining /tv/.
>Lex says, 'This is your Doomsday!'
>Doomsday shows up
BASED SNYDER DELIVERING ON PROMISES INSTANTLY. CAPEKINO.
>>67609379
it is art you fucking pleb. It just doesnt have LE IM ALWAYS ANGRY xDDD all over the film so critics shat on it
Only DC has memorable soundtracks
https://youtu.be/iXzXL1YT1_k?t=2m30s
>>67609379
How does it feel to dismiss a movie without watching it? Oh, right, I'm on /tv/.
>Lex: "now we know demons come from the sky"
>turns the painting upside down
>angles come from the ground
>Movie starts with Bruce being taken out of a well by bats
>movie ends withclark rising from a grave
woah. Marvel is finished. How can they come back from this? How can anyone watch a couple dudes fight in a parking lot after watching kino?
>>67609225
fucking definitely. I mean I still think it's a 7-8/10 but even though I literally love MoS, this movie had me angry the whole time because this type of shit can be easily avoided
>pacing is way too fast
>solve it by slowing the scenes down
>scene jumps are unnecessary
>solve by merging scenes or just put scenes after another that fit the narrative better
fucking hell
>like Star Wars?
I didn't like Star Wars because of the pacing but because it was a literal "fuck you" to the OT as well as the prequels
>>67606399
>I got most of the movie
jesus christ, "most" of the movie? not entirely? how old are you
Fuck Darkseid, I want a Crisis on Infinite Earth's storyline with Owlman trying to blow up reality.
>>67609347
Should've went
>Bruce clearly falls asleep while decrypting
>Parademon vision
>Wakes up suddenly
>Flash appears in the portal window
Instead we get
>No indication that Bruce actually falls asleep while decrypting, it just cuts
>Parademon vision
>hard cut straight into Flash vision
>suddenly wakes up
I feel like some scenes in this movie were just inserted in the wrong order.
>>67609160
>>67609321
It's not Flash from the future. It's Flash going so fast that he jumps into a different universe.
It's called Speedforce
>>67609321
>But then it cuts to him waking up so it implies that it was a dream
even if it was a dream suit, it's still stupid. I hope they have a proper clarification at the ready
>shit was just weird. Even the dream itself
nothing weird about the dream. flash basically tells batman that he was right about superman being evil due to superman probably flipping his shit after lois' death in the future
>>67609379
t. Béla Tarr fan
>>67609281
>>67609449
Clark should've wifed this tsundere xena battle princess from krypton
>>67609455
>I didn't like Star Wars because of the pacing but because it was a literal "fuck you" to the OT as well as the prequels
I meant the original Star Wars (A New Hope). It is a well known fact that film was a mess and was saved in the editing room.
>>67609456
500 in a little girls body. it's okay though, im 500
>>67609347
I must be blind as fuck. saw the crappy cam rip on youtube and still don't see the papers flying around. anyone have a working link or webm for the scene? if he was awake, did he pass out from the power of the speed force or what?
>/tv/'s ironic memes are actually being taken seriously
Wew
>>67609557
I think people are confusing Bruce's sudden whiplash from the rift as if it was him waking up
>>67609492
>I feel like some scenes in this movie were just inserted in the wrong order
I'm angry because I'm sure the Ultimate Cut will have the exact same order for these scenes. How come Watchmen's editing was great but this had shitty editting? I'm not willing to believe Snyder makes these kind of shitty decisions when it comes to something important like that
Why did we ever doubt him?
>>67609512
I'm still on the fence on that theory
the good thing about the different dimension stuff would be
>red armor over suit separates him from regular flash
>moustache separates him from regular barry
>
>The opening sequence's main theme is fall from grace.
>First thing we see is leaves falling.
>Bruce's parent's funeral is in Fall.
>Piano is a descending melody.
>There were perfect things, diamond absolutes. But things fall. And what falls is fallen.”
>Bruce falls into a hole.
BRAVO SNYDER
>>67609602
why not just show that?
>flash disappears
>whiplash and bruce passing out
>next scene
I didn't even need to see him wake up afterwards
>>67606238
>achieving self actualization through his identity as Batman
how pleb are you?
>>67605968
I'll tell you why BvS is "awful" for some people - it actually strives to reach the same level of creativity as the comic books. Some of the action in the movie is unimaginably well done, some of it is not - that is the main downside of actually trying to transcend pleb action (the kind we've seen so many times in Nolan's dull trilogy). Snyder sets the bar so high he sometimes cannot reach it himself, so of course that productions that are about anything but that drive have it easier, since they do not try hard enough to begin with. Also, that limitation allows for a deeper exploration of micro-plots and psychological meandering, which appeals to high-schoolers and college students who act like jellyfishes in order not to break a bone by being too exuberant. Batman v Superman failed because it actually TRIED, but for the same reason, it also succeeded.
This is the second Superhero movie I rate higher than 5/10 after Spider-Man 2. I sure hope that it does well at the box-office because the world needs more directors like Snyder.
>>67606757
The whole movie has a very nietzschean vibe desu, lex being the embodiment of the ubermensch's antithesis and the harbinger of slave morality overcoming individual greatness.
>>67609624
>all DC "patricians" in this board
>>67609449
>hackman
Jesus fucking christ
How can someone actually be this entry level in both music and cinema? Do you play videogames and read comics too you fucking troglodyte?
>The pearl necklace symbolizes cooperation and fraternity.
>Bruce witnesses the breaking of this bond and loses faith.
>A pearl slips from Martha's hand and falls into the gutter.
>The pearl falls next to Bruce in the cave's dream.
>Supe dies
>Everyone gathers around his destroyed monument with lights. From above these lights look like pearls gathering again.
>If you seek my monument, look around you.
>Bruce's final speech is about the importance of fraternity and cooperation, and that man is good. His faith is restored.
BRAVO SNYDER
>>67609759
oh hey its actually a pasta
Ben Affleck was good as Batman, I'd watch a solo movie with him. And Wonder Woman wasn't bad, either. Everything else was shit.
>>67609796
Fuck company wars child. This is PlebsvPatricians
>>67607935
Yeah because it's genuinely perplexing that a screenwriter would put that in a movie.
>>67609877
>This is PlebsvPatricians
This is plebs vs plebs, tourist
>>67609812
I can't tell if you are being ironic or not. Poes Law is in full effect here.
You remind me of one of those retards who believe in the Star Wars prequel Ring Theory.
>>67609848
GRAND MOFF TARKIN IS SUPERMAN????
>>67609469
>Fuck Darkseid, I want a Crisis on Infinite Earth's storyline with Christian Bale as Owlman trying to blow up reality.
FTFY
>>67607527
I didn't really like the movie but I think it's cool to see symbols like this being used in capeshit.
>>67609848
Out of all the things /tv/ spoiled before I got to see it, this was the one thing I was so happy I didn't get spoiled on, absolutely fucking beautiful scene.
Snyder is the Malick of comic book movies.
>>67609915
What is the Star Wars prequel Ring Theory ?
>>67609848
JUST
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/stormblr%20/filename/1/
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/%2Fpol%2Fkold/filename/1/
>>67605968
Truly a visual spectacle to behold. Not your average Comic Book Movie that's for sure. This movie is one of amazing grandeur and in another world where Superhero movies aren't looked down upon by Hollywood, this would be worthy of an Oscar in almost any category! Never has a comic book movie felt as epic as this one, where two titans clash. Terrio's writing is amazing and Snyder's visuals purely awe-striking. Of course there's no way you can leave out Wonder Woman, who truly stole every scene she was in. A movie for the ages, though mature, and very thought provoking. People don't seem to see what they have in front of them is the future of the genre, and much like the hate Van Gogh received throughout his life, it seems Snyder's pieces won't be appreciated until what we take for granted is gone
>>67609512
I truly dont think plebs are ready for the flash and all his inter-dimensional time traveling shit
>>67609915
Explain
>>67610003
Everything Lucas did in the prequels was brilliant storytelling that nobody figured out for 10 years until some autists on reddit finally cracked the case.
>>67609984
>Snyder
>not knowing a thing about malick or even capeshit movies
Fucking christ the in/v/asion is real
>>67609915
It's not that hard to believe someone actually put thought in including parallels between opening and closing scenes. There's also the image of the robber's gun's recoil and the cannons being fired in Supes' funeral.
>movie's out for almost a week
>marvel shills stop getting paid
>/tv/ starts to see the light
like clockwork
>>67610003
Poetry?
>>67609848
At one point I thought, "Hey turned into Quentin Tarantino!"
>>67610034
Looked it up online. It's so obvious that it's what Lucas wanted to achieve, and can't tell if you're trolling or just idiot.
>>67610108
MARTHA
A
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Guys i need help.
I'm trying to become a patrician, of the fine arts.
I have a friend who likes marvel movies.
What are some buzzwords, and facts i can use to prove this movie is better than all of marvel's shit?
>>67610034
>>67610135
link la
>>67609848
>>67609952
>tfw i fell for the "superman flies doomsday into the sun and dies meme" before I went and saw it
>tfw it turned out to be very wrong
>>67606285
Everyone really is right
Tv is a shit board
>>67606356
Because it would take itself too seriously and critics would pan it for that. Capeshit is supposed to be fun and colourful like a toy commercial.
>>67610163
kinographie, mise en snyder, snyderlism
>>67610034
>It's not shitty if it's shitty on purpose!
prequel apologists, everyone
>>67610163
le quips
starmeme
capekino
throw in the word cuck every now and then and you should be good to go
>>67610208
Yeah me too.
Instead what we got was a really good scene, the pinacle of the fight, after that, when Wonder Woman came in action, it was good, but less good.
I liked the movie but the better fight was Superman vs Zod, or even Superman vs the girl and the big guy in Man of Steel
>>67610215
Penn pls
>>67610163
>I'm trying to become a patrician, of the fine arts.
If anyone of your favorite movies are on picture related then you'll never be one
>>67608759
>>67609848
What is this?
>>67610278
Your a big guy
>>67606671
>I literally watched this during Holy Friday
Snyder is truly a visionary.
Fucking Lex red-pilling politicians with cherry Jolly Ranchers.
>>67610300
BIZARRO
>>67610030
Well you make a lot of assumptions like how the pearl necklace symbolizes cooperation and fraternity. I don't know how you made this conclusion but what I do is that it is pretty well-established in the canon that Martha Wayne's pearls split during the attack and has special reverence for Batman because it symbolizes his family being torn apart. Moreover the exact scene was lifted from the comic book, The Dark Knight Returns, so there isn't really anything further than Snyder trying to do a faithful adaptation.
Also, Poe Laws is
>Without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between an expression of sincere extremism and a parody of extremism.
In this instance, I can't tell whether you are judging the film with objectively and giving it a such a positive view or merely being ironic.
>>67610163
Talk about the imagery, framing, the philosophical and religious themes (stoicism & christianity). Say Capekino.
Explain to him how every marvel movie looks like a tv budget cbs show, except for the thor ones.
Ask him if he remember a single soundtrack from marvel movies and compare to the DC ones.
>>67609090
Yes they do, when Superman goes for his first flight and you have his dad monologuing.
Also most normies believe that Superman is indestructible so even a nuke wouldn't kill him. Harm him at best.
>>67610331
Lex was surprisingly great, what a little cunt I love it.
>>67610348
I'm not that nigga, I'm more interested in this star wars theory of yours.
Including symbolism and motifs doesn't make up for poor characterization and bad direction. Snyder still glorifies violence, and has an awful love affair with slowmotion and tacky color-grading.
>>67610406
Agree about the colors, and the level of violence was better in this movie than in Man of Steel, in the sense that it wasn't sad, cruel, or disregard for civilian life.
>>67610289
I've seen a lot of them.
None are my favourite but i didn't hate them all, is it too late for me?
>>67606671
>release the film on Good Friday
WE GET IT SNYDER HE'S JESUS JUST STOP IT WE ALREADY WE KNOW HE'S GOING TO COME BACK FROM THE DEAD
>the goddamn theater in the beginning of the movie was playing Excalibur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWGk2R2gHEU
HORSES HORSES HORSES HORSES
COMING IN IN ALL DIRECTIONS
Why /tv/ is so afraid of capekino?
>>67610404
Its basically this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs
George Lucas is a secret genius
So this guy was Pontius Pilate right?
He didn't want to launch the nuclear warhead at superman, but the people voted to do so.
>>67605968
Almost had me walk out of the theatre until it was revealed to be a dream.
>>67610513
Because they're insecure and afraid of praising a 28% superhero movie
>>67610380
Honestly say what you want about snyder's unevenness he chooses some pretty fucking frames.
So how did the message reach the stars?
Was it this deleted scene? Is this after the fight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-MUzvASr8s
>>67610513
it's a /v/eddit meme
>>67610300
Kino
>>67606671
Is this the start of second Renaissance?
I don't understand how WB/DC doesn't see the flaws snyder brings to these movies, sure the movie is making bank but they're trying to build a universe why don't they want this to be as strong of a foundation as possible
>>67610550
>So how did the message reach the stars?
The ship probably has some way of sending messages. Also remember the Kryptonian database has info on thousands of planets, so it had the location of the ayy lmaos.
It's a deleted scene, probably after or during the fight.
>>67610620
I think the writers are more at fault here
>>67606904
I'm a member of BAFTA my opinion matters
>>67610526
oh george
im so sorry
we have time to save snyder
praise him
>>67610513
Why is /tv/ so obsessed with pretending to know better than everyone else to the point of praising some awfully edited, paced, written and shot piece of shit just because of some film school dropout-tier symbolism that's handled so clumsily its themes and meanings are almost stated in-dialogue?
The worst part about every human on earth believing that everyone else is dumber than them is braindead morons like these that can only talk in memes saying that you're dumb for not praising comic book shit.
>playing Shostakovich's jazz waltz during the museum scene
It's so embarrassing. It's like the time he made the war room in Watchmen a replica of Dr. Strangelove's war room. Snyder thinks that referencing respected films and gesturing towards philosophical depth makes him respectable. It's like an insecure hipster who walks around with a copy Ulysses so people think he's smart.
>>67610550
>Luthor praying to Lucifer
>Superman will rise 3 days later to save mankind from the coming Apokolips
These Jesus metaphors are really obnoxiously ham-fisted.
Not even kidding here, although I know saying this I'm going to get shitposters, meme spouters and their ilk. I haven't seen this yet because I was somewhat disinterested, but is the film actually a film? Is it actually chock full of rich symbolism, amazing shots and stuff that warrants re-watches?
Or are we all shitposting and it's actually a steaming pile of dogshit?Or is it a mixture of trash writing but amazing directing and cinematography by Snyder?
>>67610735
It's hilarious, terrible and cool all at the same time. It's just like the Lex's character, completely schizophrenic, at times brilliant, at other times completely stupid.
>>67610735
The former.
It's nice. But if you're a simple-minded marvel fuccboi u wont like it.
jesse was terrible. He was phoning it in by copying Jim Carrey as the Riddler
>>67610735
Go watch it
>>67610735
It's one of the smartest blockbuster movies ever made and simultaneously one of the most amateur as well
>>67610725
Hack Snyder thinks he is the first person to think Superman = Jesus and thus he thinks he must dumb it down for us.
>>67610735
It's actually absolute garabge
>>67610851
See >>67610004
>>67610735
Quick cuts, lens flares, orange and teal, and 30 minute fight scene against a giant orc monster. You're being trolled.
>>67610849
>jesse was terrible. He was phoning it in by copying Jim Carrey as the Riddler
And it was still the best part of the film.
>>67610849
fucking terrible.
he was trying SO HARD to be "crazy" he looked so dumb. he was basically playing the Joker or the Riddler circa Joel Schumacher, just in more muted colors.
he also had a lot of lines I think were MEANT to bring some levity to certain scenes, but it was so ill timed and poorly delivered it just felt misplaced, awkward, or never hit home whatsoever.
>>67609939
>Christian Bale
>implying its not James Woods reprising his role from the Pretty Great-tier animated movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-rl0tfQO9E
Also, it will piss off some pseudo-intellectuals on /tv/ which is always a plus.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cwXfv25xJUw
Will this ever get old?
>Zack: what kind of reference you want n your film?
>WB: Jesus Christ Zack, how-
>Zack: Say no more sir I fully understand
>>67610721
Explain what's wrong with playing the jazz waltz in the museum scene.
>>67605968
I just came back from seeing this.
What a fucking joke.
>>67610889
Your moms absolute garbage
>>67608287
I'm sorry for being a bad goy
>>67610971
What was bad about it?
>>67610849
honestly, he wasn't supposed to be the lex luthor that everyone is familiar with (that lex is already dead by the time the movie starts), so i wasn't mad at what he was doing desu
Zack Snyder: master of subtlety
>>67610932
A scene where a member of high society in a formal setting whispers into a woman's ear as Shostakovich is playing in the background. Come on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wjnzGwmbqs
>>67611054
I'm saying the reviews are a joke, it was fucking great
Somebody mentioned Jesus and stuff, so was the release date near Good friday intended?
>>67610898
>he was basically playing the Joker or the Riddler circa Joel Schumacher
Which is fitting considering the quality of the material he was working with.
He was the only person who realized the film was nothing but complete schlock and acted appropriately.
>>67611125
But that scene was GOAT. It doesn't have to fucking be subtle. Superman has been made into a Jesus allegory much more blatantly throughout his history.
Morrison basically reduced him Jesus Hercules, which is pretty much what he is.
>>67611152
>a film where Jesus metaphor dies released on the weekend we commemorate Jesus' death
what do you think?
>>67610735
it's a masterpiece
>>67611054
It's all over the place. There's 10 subplots, of which none lead to anything. Why is Lois lane out investigating some bullet that's dropped half-way through the film? Why does Batman spend the entire film hating Superman, only to turn ON A DIME when Superman whispers the name Martha? Why does Lois Lane figure out that Doomsday is about to go down? Why does nobody in this universe never fucking leave their skyscraper workplace when the entire cityscape is in danger of being destroyed? Why does Lex Luthor know how to use the kryptonian ship to engineer Doomsday? Why does the Kryptonian ship speak english? Why is the ship easier to fucking control for Luther than what SIRI is for an average apple user? Why is Wonder woman in here? To set up a Justice League film? Does that justify her showing up here and there and helping out in a pointless end fight which she contributes nothing too? Why does NOTHING IN THIS FILM lead anywhere? Why does NOTHING make sense? Who wrote this script?
Don't answer that last one... I just know it's that idiot David Goyer. Go back to writing fucking Blade.
>>67610976
Martha
>Arthur is stabbed by his son in Excalibur
>Batman stabs Superman
What does it mean?
When Lois gets kidnapped this is playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJRGynQG2sI
Snyder references Nolan's trilogy a shitton.
The batmobile scene chasing the kryptonite is his more brutal version of the Harvey Dent chase. That one ended in Batman almost running over the Joker with a motorcycle. This time he runs into Superman.
>Batman forges a Lance of Longinus to kill a God
>Jesus uses it to take down the Devil, sacrificing himself for humanity
Truly Cape Kinematique
>>67611392
it's the Doomsday fight dingus
>>67605968
I hope you contrarian hypocritical cunts realize Warner Brothers was founded by Jews. You're helping them you fags.
>>67610735
Memes aside, BvS is weird. Despite being called fucking Batman versus Superman, it has some artistic pretentious that you generally don't see in other superhero movies.
The first two thirds contain almost no physical action and little CGI, focusing instead on Superman'd feelings of isolation and the loss Batman still feels about his parents. However, the script feels all over the place. Luther's motivations are never too clear, and most of the introspective scenes are just building up to the two 20-minute fight scenes that the audience paid to see.
It's shot really artfully, with some soft focus scenes and some interesting cinematography.
>>67611327
This.
All these contrarian cunts are desperate
Just the shot alone of Bruce looking at the costume was powerful as fuck. What's NOT being said is speaking volumes right there. 20 years of being Batman. Jesus.
>>67611766
>The first two thirds contain almost no physical action and little CGI, focusing instead on Superman'd feelings of isolation and the loss Batman still feels about his parents.
No it doesn't.
It focuses on Lois Lane's unresolved investigation. And Clark Kent's interest in the Batman. And Batman's post-apocalyptic retarded nightmares. And some unresolved plot that ends with the bombing of Capital Hill.
>>67606883
Guess which of these characters you are
The whole "Martha!" thing was stupid but at the same time I could imagine so many European filmmakers doing that and being praised for it
See: Don't Look Now
>>67610874
Great way to describe it
>>67612138
I legit don't see why Bruce being triggered as fuck from hearing the only word uttered during the most important moment in his life is stupid. It doesn't take much to talk a man off a ledge.
Malick-esque
>>67611327
>Why is Lois lane out investigating some bullet that's dropped half-way through the film?
That black guy explains it to her.
Lex set it up to get people to hate Superman, same as the explosion in the Capitol. He knows about Lois and Superman and used her as bait.
>Why does Batman spend the entire film hating Superman, only to turn ON A DIME when Superman whispers the name Martha?
Because that's his own Mom's name, and he's confused by it.
>Why does Lois Lane figure out that Doomsday is about to go down?
Lightning coming from a crashed alien ship is a bad sign
>Why does nobody in this universe never fucking leave their skyscraper workplace when the entire cityscape is in danger of being destroyed?
Because Superman and his buddies move faster than a fighter jet, you can't tell they're coming.
>Why does Lex Luthor know how to use the kryptonian ship to engineer Doomsday?
He read the enormous databanks that it gave him a few scenes earlier
>Why does the Kryptonian ship speak english?
Why did Zod? They analyzed it
>Why is the ship easier to fucking control for Luther than what SIRI is for an average apple user?
It was designed to be helpful for space Super-retards
>Why is Wonder woman in here? To set up a Justice League film?
Obviously. You can't say that the Marvel ones weren't hamfisted as well.
Her in universe excuse is that she's trying to get the dirt Luthor has on her so she can disappear for good.
This film isn't amazingly written, but holy fuck you have the attention span of a 3 year old.
