So it's agreed that this is the biggest Mary Sue of all time?
You don't know what a Mary Sue is
>>64671859
>>64671962
I'm pretty sure Bombadil qualifies, anon. Perhaps Gary Sue is more to your liking.
>>64672038
Mary Sue must be a protagonist. TB is just a character Tolkien threw in along the ride.
>>64671925
Lestat is a WAY bigger Mary Sue than anyone in the Twilight universe.
>>64672077
This is categorically false.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue
>>64671859
He would be if he was the protagonist. Just because a flawless and overpowered main character is boring doesn't meany no character in the story should be flawless and overpowered
His powers did not exceed the forest
>>64672135
But that page agrees with what I said
>>64672156
Mary Sue or Gary Stu does not have to be the protagonist to qualify. I'm really not sure how this idea started.
>>64672195
"A Mary Sue or Gary Stu or Marty Stu is an idealized fictional character, a young or low-rank person who saves the day through unrealistic abilities. Often this character is recognized as an author insert and/or wish-fulfillment."
Nope. Not seeing protagonist there, anon.
>>64672258
Still far from qualifying TB as a Mary Sue.fuccboi
>>64672195
You didn't bother reading it.
>>64672201
Alright, let's put it this way then: it's only a problem that the character is a Mary Sue if it's a protagonist
>>64672290
LOTR fag getting mad!
>>64672188
This. AND he was a forgetful motherfucker.
All those OP elf motherfuckers are a better case.
>>64672201
Well, maybe it is because Mary Sue was the protagonist of her shitty fanfiction stories.
>>64672356
I don't even like LOTR. Tolkien's prose is shit.
>>64672258
>Often this character is recognized as an author insert and/or wish-fulfillment."
BRAVO JJ
>>64672258
>a young or low-rank person who saves the day through unrealistic abilities. Often this character is recognized as an author insert and/or wish-fulfillment."
Bombadil is neither a low rank, young person nor saves the day.
>>64672456
His abilities aren't even unrealistic, as far as minor wood gods go.
Bombaldi just likes to smoke weed and hang out with goats. He's a Stoner Sue. "Help us, Bombaldi." Naaah, fuck off.
Jesus Christ you're all retarded. Supporting characters can be Mary Sues, and Tom Bombadil is not one.
He is a god. He doesn't give one fuck about that midget Frodo and his quest, or anything in the realm of mortals. He has no battle to fight because he exists on a higher plane than just about everyone else in the story. He is OP as fuck, sure, but willfully irrelevant because of it.
he's literally the force of Nature, not a character in any meaningful sense
he's a metaphor
He's the personification of Eru Illuvitar, it's like saying Jesus is a Mary Sue in the bible because he can do anything
>>64672766
[citation needed]
>>64672622
Jesus IS a Mary Sue.
>>64672816
Agreed. Muhammad is much more believable protagonist.
>>64671859
Hold up where is that image from?
>>64672959
The extended edition of Hobbit 2.
>>64671859
That hat doesn't seem like it fits in the era. Can a /his/fag confirm?
No
this guy is
>>64673449
There is no coherent era to the middle earth works. Jackson chose a specific style for his movies, but in the books lots of strange stuff comes up, like the 19th century way of life of the hobbits.
>>64672959
lotr tcg
>>64672866
>Flying Unicorns
>Voices in a cave that may have been a demon or an angel
>Believable
Sure thing pal
>>64673613
You seem to have read a lot of the Koran. Have something to confess Abdul?
>>64673900
>2016
>not having read all of the major religious texts
Are you some kind of anti-intellectual?
>>64673541
He actually has flaws. Kryptonite and his need to be good over doing what is necessary.
>>64673946
Calm your tits, Shlomo.
>>64674017
Dude, if Superman isn't a Mary Sue then we might as well throw away the term because it's meaningless.
>>64672622
Are you saying he had the high ground?
TOM BOMBADIL WAS JEDI CONFIRMED
>>64673900
Leave him alone, he's just your average german man
>>64671859
Where did this picture come from, was he ever meant to be in the film trilogy?