Now wait for another 3 years for maybe 3 or maybe 3 episodes
>>64500843
3 or maybe 2 episodes
is he really back?
Just finished watching this about a hour ago...I felt they jumped back and forth too much, I couldn't keep track whether we werein Sherlock's mind, in the Victorian era or in modern times.
Was there a lot of feminist agenda bullshit or was that just me?
bride was qt, wuld fuk
>>64500843
The waterfall scene at the end was weird and nonsensical (yes I know what it's referencing)
I don't think they should of added the modern day bits and tied it in with the series they should of made it stand alone
>>64500843
>somehow thinking that dressing women up as the KKK on some retardedly convoluted level would appease SJWs
>fourth wall breaking
>it was all a dream and I was on drugs
>crossdressing
No offence but it was retarded.
>>64500843
fixt ur shit image m8
Sherlock got really shit a few episodes into Season 2
>>64500928
She was qter in Jekyll and Hyde.
>>64500953
The thing with hooper and themustachefelt forced as fuck.
Are you telling me Sherlock didn't notice that? But somehow Watson did?
I have never seen a show jump the shark this much
>>64501067
I guess it makes sense if it's considered from the point of view that everything is happening in Sherlock's brain and in dreams people don't always realize details in a dream state, but it would have been much better at least in my opinion, if they hadn't tried so hard to shoehorn it into the modern series three quarters of the way through, especially with the periods of 'waking up'.
>>64501160
this
shoulda left it standalone, it would have served the story better
but they wanted a way to try to develop the plot a little for the next season
which should be here in a year or two depending on when dr strange finishes filming
>The moral of the story is that it's okay to kill men if they lie to a woman
>The entire fucking mystery - which directly caused the deaths of three people - is because some guy lied to a woman about marrying her
>Not even rape, or threats, or physical harm. A lie. She got tricked
>Everyone suddenly starts spouting about how they 'have to win' because they're somehow right in this
How do you even justify this shit? Was there some plot point I missed?
>>64501448
you don't need a plot line
feminazis and their beta cuck lapdogs will eat up le strong woman meme
transgender fags will eat up the dress up shit Hooper was doing
its reddit the episode on reddit the show
and its a damn shame because season 1 was fantastic
Would you?
I guess I was the only one who liked it!
>>64501067
Sherlock didn't really pay attention to Molly in present times desu
>>64501699
How can you justify >>64501448
>>64501603
>Homosexuals are psychopaths
>Women are KKK murdering radicalists
>It's ok to kill men for no reason whatsoever because women feel offended
>Transgenders only exist because they feel insecure about themselves
>Irene isn't bisexual, she only wants dick
>Adaptation of the Five Pip Problem is somehow more triggering than the original
BRAVO MOFFAT
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>>64501603
Say that again
>post yfw Sherlock deludes himself more and more that's he from 19th century in series 4you
requesting that "how intelligent people think" Sherlock pasta
>>64501648
i dont know with that stache, but she's qt as fuck without it
>>64500843
>the abdominal bride
>abdominal
>>64500936
>yes I know what it's referencing
I don't get it
Like fake falling when you wake up or something?
Watched it up until it started shoving Mary the unappreciated housewife and Molly the crossdressing woman trying to get ahead in a man's world in my face.
I don't need feminism in my detective stories, yet it seems every show on the BBC is completely full of it.
Dream___________Watson was better than modern one. I hope he gets back.
>>64500843
I think im dropping this show after this ep
>1,5 h filler episode...
>Laced with feminist propaganda...sig...i cant even get away from this shit in my entertainment?...fuck it im Joining #gamergate
>Those things aside...ep was still boring as fuck
>>64500843
>muh feminism
more like the abominable episode desu senpai
>I am Sher LOCKED
fucking hell, really
>>64502527
The show desperately needs some new writers, because this was the laziest attempt at a episode so far
It's like Benedict showed up randomly and they had 15 minutes to pen the episode, so they drew the most random ideas from hashtags #feminism, #lgbt and #sherlockfanfic
Not a native speaker here, at times it was REALLY hard to follow.. am I stupid? Or was it a convoluted mess?
>>64502634
Nope, it wasn't just you.
I am under impression this whole thing was just adream?
Can someone also explain the list thing between Sherlock and his brother? What's written on there?
>>64502654
I think it was a list of all the drugs he took that day.
>>64502634
What was convoluted about it?
>>64502634
>>64502654
everytime sherlock wants to take drugs or something he writes a list of everything he took
jumped around too much
im still not sure what the fuck the episode was about
>>64502683
The whole jumping and the list thing...
>>64501448
>Not even rape, or threats, or physical harm. A lie.
the strong hyper-competent women need to be coddled and told they're big superman 24-7
it just happens there are really weak men who fall for it and need to imagine women are oppressed and pressed beneath them to see them as nicer and innocent
>>64502770
The list was practically spoonfed to the viewer with multiple examples shown to infer the meaning from.
What was convoluted about the jumping?
>>64501906
it's at least slightly amusing how the hatred for men spills into gays-are-hysteric-creepy-queens as well as a tumblr yaoi gayshit
it just makes sense once you realize feminists are the equivalent of r9k men, they just can get cock more easily
>>64500906
Not just you, there was some clear feminist agenda stuff ("this is a war we have to lose", "there's an entire secret society of women who murder oppressive men but we'll let it slide and won't arrest anyone because they're underprivileged")
Also I swear to fuck if moff actually does bring moriarty back alive after this entire episode trying to establish that he's dead
Is Moriarty gay?
Sherlock seems like a homophobe
>>64502584
>The show desperately needs some new writers, because this was the laziest attempt at a episode so far
I personally think this is the beginning of the end of that show, every episode from now on is going to have yo have some social commentary that aligns with social justice....They just broke that wall, so there can only be more of it in the future.
Next ep
>Sherlock goes to dreamworld again, and investigates a murder at a cottonfarm during the days of the slavetrade.
>Turns out the white slaveowners wife and one of the slaves killed him, but it was ok because he was a horribel person, Sherlock agrees to pin the murder on the areas competing cottonfarmer, whos an even more evil white man
>Sherlock and Watson both turn to the camera look straight at it and say "slavery is wrong, and you should feel bad"
>The End
>Wait 3 years gor next ep
>>64502256
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichenbach_Falls
>>64502634
convoluted but without one moment where sherlock solves anything
mary simply just take the two to the church fucksake. The only "sherlock spills the secret" is him giving a feminist reason why the men deserved to die
>>64502867
I read Sherlock stories before
How is the fall and the dream are connected? Sherlock needed to wake up through the fall?
>>64500992
There were only three episodes in season 2 and s2e3 The Reichenbach Fall is objectively the peak of the show
It divebombed super hard in S3 by not even bothering to explain how sherlock survived ("what's the point, you'll just be disappointed anyway :^)") and way WAY too much tumblr fanbase pandering
The special was an improvement but it still had a bit too much of an agenda and relied too much on special effects with the doctor who tier fake waterfall and moriarty's CGI blown out head, the show has always been at its best when it doesn't need to rely on scene compositing special effects (those visual things to show text messages are fine, not a CGI wolf)
>>64502857
if you added
>cue "The Blacker the Berry" as the video fades out
it would be perfect
I don't know, what I really liked about the previous episodes was that they were smart and cleverly constructed but all the way comprehensible. This episode was going too far.
>>64502889
Sherlock's on some mad trip
His drug induced mind put him and Moriarty in the pairing he recovered in period specific clothing, A nod to the originals
Why do people have so much trouble with this episode?
>>64502102
>cartoon wolf straight out of a computer game episode
>patrician taste
'no'
There were a few really great scenes this episode, but also some really obnoxious shit (in other words, typical Sherlock)
Good:
>Refreshing, they do a good job with era-appropriate Sherlock on the whole
>The initial mystery and set-up was actually really cool
>the "scary" bits weren't cringeworthy
>dialogue is as sharp as ever
Bad:
>Moriarty appeared, in excess, for literally no reason. I fucking hate Andrew Scott. He's dead. He had nothing to do with the plot.
>Lines like "Wear the damn hat, you're Sherlock Holmes." A few tongue-in-cheek, meta-humor zingers are fine, but they did way too many in this episode.
>Overt feminist pandering kind of lessened the impact of the "reveal"
>The back-and-forth structure didn't work for me. I would have prefered a standalone mystery set in the past.
>what the FUCK was with those transitions?
>>64502973
whole episode was well done and really spooky at times
that's why I liked it the best
>>64502856
He did 'pretend' to be gay in one episode
>>64502931
>smart and cleverly constructed
People don't notice when they've just been knifed in the kidney and a dress belt somehow keeps in all the blood.
>>64502871
>mary simply just take the two to the church
we're in a really bad spot when we dont need to think or solve shit "because mommy is super clever".
(seriously, fuck every moment where watson is a dumb cuck who needs to be put in his place while sherlock and mary wink at each other at how brilliant she is)
>>64502998
It went too far beyond suspension of disbelief, sherlock is too grounded in reality for CGI monsters to be acceptable even as a hallucination
It was basically professor layton live action edition
>>64502931
>smart and cleverly constructed
Sherlock jumps off a roof, but lol there were people wearing masks and I'm not really dead it was all a ruse.
It started off promisingly but because Moffat is a retard cuck aiming for the lowest common denominator it's been on a speedy shit train to shit town ever since.
Fuck, my girlfriend likes it and she's borderline retarded.
>>64503025
>sherlock is too grounded in reality for CGI monsters to be acceptable even as a hallucination
that was such bullshit and complete tone-deaf
>>64503025
What CGI?
>its a murder is a-okay because women can do literally nothing wrong episode
Any reason why she kept shouting FOR YOU?
>>64503077
what shoes are those?
It's weird, I like Sherlock, but now it's had 5 bad episodes and 4 good ones. More bad than good. Weird.
>>64502996
>>Lines like "Wear the damn hat, you're Sherlock Holmes." A few tongue-in-cheek, meta-humor zingers are fine, but they did way too many in this episode.
>the promo stuff makes it seem like era appropriate Holmes wearing era appropriate clothes like the Granada Series did
>the usage of that bit in the teasers made it seem like theyd make a joke to Holmes stereotypical outfit
>instead he just wears that outfit all the time anyway even in the city
that line was literally pointless. he was wearing that outfit for most of the episode anyway, and that was even without going to the countryside
>>64502973
>>64503025
>>64503063
itt pleb police
>>64502929
Blacker the Berry is more about black on black violence and false pride. They should rather opt for something from Watch the Throne or go for Alright if they want to depict something from Kendrick that deals with white one black violence.
>>64503107
go back to your mindpalace's cuckshed
>>64503076
This piece of shit
>>64503115
>white on black violence.
uwotm8
90% of all interracial violence is black on white
>>64503107
Reichenbach Fall is the legitimate best episode and the scene on the top of the building is without a doubt one of the best moments of television this decade
How much longer do you think we'll have to wait for another truly great Sherlock Holmes adaptation?
Granada Show was great, but man, that was made in the 80's...
>Feminist Cultist create a legend about a ghost to scare the patriarchy
>Uses this legend murder whoever they feel deserves to die
>Sherlock is somehow just fine with this, and says "This is a war we must loose, lets just let them keep doing what they are doing"
Was i really tired when i watched this last night or did this just happen?
I thought /tv/ was just meming again when i heard about this ep
>>64503123
your taste is shit senpai
>>64503145
>without a doubt one of the best moments of television this decade
damn sherlock fans can be so cringy
it's alright tv shlock, barely above csi or law and order shit
>>64503134
Oh fuck, that's what I get for not checking the context of the original post. I thought they were calling the spookiness in the most recent episode well-done, rather than the hound shit.
>tfw literal fanfiction is better than Sherlock
S3 was pretty piss poor and this gives me no hope for S4. Guess Sherlock is dead.
>>64502998
>I liked it the best
>patrician
'no'
>>64503186
It would have been better if episode was a filler but they fucked up while trying to include cannon story to it
Anyway first half was good
>>64501067
>Are you telling me Sherlock didn't notice that? But somehow Watson did?
Watson wasn't really there, bro.
>>64502871
>without one moment where sherlock solves anything
seriously, how is no one discussing this?
mary just taking the two is literally "feminism exmachina" and shows how retarded male writers are when they coddle women into superhuman plot cheats. It replaces the actual crime solving
>>64503091
she was a big girl
to be fair, while on the whole it all kind of sucked and the ending was all ridiculous, I kind of liked the idea that if the thought of moriarty in his brain eats away at him, the thought of watson does the opposite. the whole "Moriarty is the virus and watson the antivirus was stupid, but it was kind of cute.
>>64502088
>that another show about detective in a modern London
>first season was in 2010
>like in Sherlock
>second in 2012
>like in Sherlock
>third in 2013
>uh
>fourth in winter 2015-2016
>uh like Sherlock's special
KEKED HAHA
>just get me Sherlock's ripoff senpai!
>>64503273
>"ok i need a convincing way for them to get top secret information x or to find the criminal secret conspiracy lair
>nah just say "woman did it" and no one can question it
it's kinda brilliant actually
>>64503144
I don't want to meme it out or go into silly roleplay arguments about politics you wouldn't dare speak of in real life because you don't actually believe them wholeheartedly, but I was referring to police brutality or institutionalized violence perceived by the black community.
>>64503305
you can cut a lot of corners and budget that way
(as well as thought and fun)
>>64501448
>The moral of the story is that it's okay to kill men if they lie to a woman
I don't think there was a moral to the story. It was an excuse to do Victorian-era with a fig-leaf of investigating whether Moriarty could have faked his death and a pro-feminist message tacked on somewhat clumsily. The actual confrontation is a bit of Holmes's speechifying and then Moriarty shows up again.
If you read the original stories, Holmes lets a couple of murderers go free - including a woman who'd been blackmailed by Milverton and winds up shooting him in the face.
>>64503017
I'd completely forgotten that she was even in the show when she showed up, then the horrors of season 3 all came flooding back to me.
Even my gf agrees that she's pointless feminist pandering.
>>64503279
Pretty much how I felt. Sherlock having his mind palace and being able to simulate "experiments" there is a very neat idea. Dream within a dream got really fucking tired though, however since he OD'ed, I can sort of accept it.
I might have become a fanboy and now try to defend shit writing by poor reasoning. Oh well, we won't have new episodes until next year anyway.
>>64503340
>After researching the FBI numbers for "Suicide of a Superpower," this writer concluded: "An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study."
>Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.
i know tumblrinas get off on rape fantasies and defend the most violent agressive men but cmon
>before season 3
>get hyped they're adapting "Watson is married" theme
>got Mary Sue and beta c u c k Watson instead
LMFAO
>>64503291
It's funny because it's 100% accurate
How the fuck are people still watching this pile of shit after they failed to explain how Sherlock faked his death?
Worse still, they made an episode where they made fun of all the people who actually attempted to deduce how he faked his death.
>>64502889
>How is the fall and the dream are connected? Sherlock needed to wake up through the fall?
I don't think it was a connection as such, just a sort of cheeky callback to the handwaving of how exactly he survived the fall from the roof. They never actually said, so here, they have Holmes make a little reference to "knowing how to do this" without specifying what he's doing. It was a mythology gag, sort of.
>>64503458
but they explain it at the end of that episode anon
>>64503412
dont worry, she'll make your girlfriend like her after the camera cuts to her on her cellphone and she says "there, done"
which Sherlock was better senpai?
Dream one or himself from modern times? Can he delude himself and stay Dream one forever?
>>64503145
>Reichenbach Fall is the legitimate best episode
Agree.
>the scene on the top of the building is without a doubt one of the best moments of television this decade
I felt like they fudged it a bit. Like they had too much of a sense of its own epicness. It's not that it was bad, but I didn't think it was nearly as good as it could have been. Too much Moffatian bathos.
I have a thing for villains who kill themselves out of spite for the protagonist so they never get the pleasure of having defeated them
I sincerely hope moff doesn't fuck that up 4 years later
>>64503502
No it wasn't
>>64503588
have you watched Megamind?
>>64503448
Women are smarter, stronger and should be in charge of men, haven't you learned that yet?
But seriously, Moffat is pandering tumblr so hard it's actually scary.
>>64503603
That was different, whatshisface faked his death because he wanted out rather than to spite megamind
>>64503662
he should stop pandering, its pathetic, they walk all over him they dont even like it
he has a few based tweets where he triggers the SJWs I don't know whether it was on purpose or if it was accidental
Is this any good?
>>64503678
is Moffat done or we have hope?
>>64500843
>it literally was all a dream
>>64503678
They're from years ago now, he shut down his twitter
Moffat's the special kind of cuck where he believes in the feminist ideology and tries to convey it through his writing but feminists endlessly shit on him for not doing it right, I'm amazed he hasn't given up on it yet
>>64503685
It's like watching an old friend lose his mind and then die
>>64503685
old fart does nothing: the film
>>64503711
>>64503720
So it's like that parody where Sherlock is in an old people's home suffering from dementia?
I'm not a big enough fan of detective genre to read the books, but I still want something to watch once in a while related to Sherlock.
>Robert Downhere Jr's first Sherlock is now better than BBC's Sherlock
for fuck sake
seriously, how hard it is to do a Moriaty that isnt a dweeby manic queen failed joker?
>>64503781
if you up for modern stuff just watch picrelated
>>64503296
>>64500843
elementary is better
>>64503836
too american and actiony desu
>>64503836
Mitchell and Webb's Holmes is better than elementary
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2557eq_that-mitchell-and-webb-look-old-holmes_shortfilms
>>64503855
>not liking moriarty being sherlock's sexy blonde female love interest
u gay, bro?
>>64503007
that fucking shit
>>64503685
the PBS holmes is better
How did Sherlock survived though?
They gave us a tip that they used someone's who looked like Sherlock corpse.
>>64503836
>Watson is female
>Moriarty is female
>Mrs. Hudson is transgender
It's literal tumblr bait show.
And he way Sherlock solves mysteries is just as retarded as in BBC Sherlock
>Judging by these burns on the fingers which could have only been caused by an old prewar radiator and the distinctive smell of Ethiopian food spice, the kidnapper must be hiding here...
>>64503966
moff realised he had written himself into a corner and could never live up to expectations so he just chose not to
>>64503781
>I'm not a big enough fan of detective genre to read the books
Probably be wasted on you
>>64503989
>Mrs. Hudson is transgender
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO
really? rofl
>>64503966
he levitated
>>64503458
Except people weren't deducing anything.
Why are everyone so eager to misuse the term "deduce" as soon as sherlock holmes is brought up?
He doesn't even use deduction.
>>64504005
Yep
>>64504005
yes, and sherlock says, while looking at the camera and her, you are a beautiful WOMAN
>>64504035
"Deduce" = "Figure out" in the popular lexicon.
Brilliant figuring out, Watson.
>>64503989
You forgot
>let's have le anonymous deus ex machina helping sherlock every other episode
I admit the shoe on head thing made me smile.
>>64504035
It's like complaining that people say literally when they don't really mean that x is 100% literally y.Autistic
>>64504064
>in the popular lexicon
>>64504097
No, it isn't.
>>64503989
>Mrs. Hudson is transgender
Jesus Christ, I watch this show and I wasn't even aware about that.
>>64504098
>le educated and sophisticated
I bet you were born in the wrong generation.
>>64504160
>le memester
I bet you despise le normies.
>>64503893
Man... That was just sad.
>>64504169
>using 'normies' unironically
Yeah, you were definitely born in the wrong generation. Nobody maintains the standards anymore! Words are permitted to have colloquial meanings! Meanings which differ from the ACTUAL meaning, the one listed in the dictionary BEFORE the colloquial one, which is how you know it's the PROPER meaning! That wouldn't have happened in 1975.
>watching sherlock after season 3
yeah I don't understand /tv/ at all. All they do is talk about shows they hate lol
>>64504226
yeah it's fucking heartbreaking
it was their final episode
>>64504001
That's a bit harsh. I used to read detective/mystery books when I was young. I mostly read hard sci-fi now though.
>>64503823
Seems interesting, I'll look into it.
>>64503963
>PBS holmes
Care to clarify?
>>64503025
>It was basically professor layton live action edition
I don't know about you, but you just made it sound even more awesome.
>>64504035
i beleive in LOGIC
>>64503007
I remember this one story, a true story, about an elderly woman who was walking to the store. A ruffian, some youth ran up to her and "hit" her in the back. She kind of fell over than got back up. He ran off and she thought nothing of it. She walked to the store and her shoulder was hurting her something fierce, but she just walked on, and into the store and around for a while. THEN THE CLERK RAN UP AND SAID OH SHIT ARE YOU OKAY FUCK FUCK FUCK CALL AN AMBERLAMPS
There was a knife sticking out of her neck.
People don't feel the weirdest fucking things.
>>64504242
>unironically
>prefaced by "le"
Are you actually retarded?
>>64504323
Someone jabbed me really hard in the shoulder with something in mid conversation and I didn't feel it at all, and the guys around me were like wtf and thought I was trying to be an edgelord when I said I legitimately didn't feel anything.
>>64503007
>People don't notice when they've just been knifed in the kidney
People don't even notice being shot though.
In fact, the only reason people fall down and shit when you shoot them anywhere but in the head region is because they think they're supposed to.
Getting stabbed and shot is so abrupt and intense that your body doesn't even know how to process it at first and by the time it does, shock will likely have put all of that on the backburner anyway.
>>64500843
I thought it wasshit_____
How did sherlock get the drugs?
>>64504323
>i heard a story once a long time ago maybe
was the ruffian a little hairy fella?
>>64503685
Yes. It's not a huge mystery movie though,it's a character driven film.
>>64504496
kek
>>64504363
are you autistic?
>>64504475
Mary hacked into a delivery company's service orders to put a order in picking up a drug dealer's stash
>>64504475
Keistering.
>>64504565
w-why anon?
>>64504475
Deep web/homeless network/both
>>64504475
He doesn't. He use his mind palace to stimulate the effects of taking drugs.
>>64504603
remember that pic "how to tell you're an autist"?
one was if a person doesn't feel pain
>>64504671
not him but stabbing and getting shot can be really weird things.
depending on the situation or where on the body people might not notice at first
>>64504475
What's to say he doesn't just keep them on himself at all times? And the cops who arrested him were too dumb to check?
>>64504671
Nah it was a weird circumstance for me too. Just one of those things I guess, like >>64504695 said
PLEB FEDORA PATRICIAN
<<<<<<1st season>>>>>>
>The Great Game
PLEB
>A Study in Pink
FEDORA
>The Blind Baker
PATRICIAN
<<<<<<2nd season>>>>>>
>The Reichenbach Fall
PLEB
>A Scandal in Belgravia
FEDORA
>The Hounds of Baskerville
PATRICIAN
<<<<<<3rd season>>>>>>
>The Sign of Three
PLEB
>The Empty Hearse
FEDORA
>His Last Vow
PATRICIAN
>>>>>>>>>Special<<<<<<<<<<
>The Abominable Bride
FEDORA
>Watson is a fucking afghan war veteran, a doctor and a adrenaline junkie adventuring through high stakes aggressive crime underworlds and super conspiracies
>puts up with cuck bullshit from a super old bitchy woman
i was pretty hype but it was just more moriarty bullshit
yeh i get it, he was a good villain
but hes dead, so stop forcing him into every fucking episode
now no doubt the new season will be all his fanboys or whatever
fuck this shit
>>64504841
>Martin Freeman
>a fucking afghan war veteran, a doctor and a adrenaline junkie adventuring through high stakes aggressive crime underworlds and super conspiracies
Top kek
>>64504841
He already has to put up with Sherlock's nonsense. Coming back home and having to deal with another cunt is just plain stupid.
>>64504935
if you met a dude like Watson irl you'd think he's worse than some dude who needs to parachute jump every day to feel alright
most of 4chan should be slightly intimidated just by the fact that he's a doctor (never mind crimefighter, war vet, writer etc)
>>64504841
>forgives his wife and doesn't walk out on her even though she's broken all his trust and could probably even get an annulment from a Catholic Church because the marriage was made under false pretenses it was that fucking horrible
>>64504936
sherlock at least gives him what he needs.
that woman being the fulfiller of a man's romantic needs is just astounding, pure "i can handle strong women" cuck writing
>>64505008
even before that, my god how unbearable
>>64501448
Bit like Doctor Who
>It's ok to kill someone if it means getting really rich and the person you're killing is a bit of a dick
>>64504841
>super old
Why are men allowed to age and still be respected but women who don't look like they're 20 are instantly disregarded as rubbish?
>>64505167
m'lady!
>>64505167
lol 'allowed'
men are 'allowed' if it makes them manly/ daddies/ rich/ experienced etc, things that are sexy to women. These men werent loved at the age of 15
>>64502841
it's far more likely that Moriarty has a brother or sister that tried to step into his shadow. It's probably Janine
>>64504992
>most of 4chan should be slightly intimidated just by the fact that he's a doctor (never mind crimefighter, war vet, writer etc
dude is like a caricature dream doctor husband except not beta bux like irl doctors tend to be
the only downside is the way Freeman presents himself (seriously, that amount of test doing that shit would make him doc savage)
>>64504835
>The Blind Baker
>PATRICIAN
That's easily the single worst episode of the entire series. Opinion literally discarded.
>>64505167
>Why are men allowed to age and still be respected
we're supposed to think that woman is entitled to be seen as one's high school sweetheart now? since when are men entitled to that "respect"?
>>64504835
how do you rank
>PLEB FEDORA PATRICIAN
>>64502857
>I personally think this is the beginning of the end of that show, every episode from now on is going to have yo have some social commentary that aligns with social justice....They just broke that wall, so there can only be more of it in the future.
I'm pretty sure they are just insanely self-aware of the tumblr-fandom. It was pretty apparent in s3e1 when they shot that made-up kissing scene on the rooftop. I guess they just think the show is more popular with women than men.
I have to point out that it's insanely out of character for Sherlock Holmes to let MURDER slide for a greater political cause. He doesn't give a shit about social or political inequalities. In the last 3 seasons he was oblivious to them because they were pointless for his investigations.
>>64504841
good lord watson
>>64505326
OOOO so mysteelious, crouch-ing tiger hidden drahgon!
>>64505411
It was even more out of character for Sherlock Holmes to murder a guy who he just found out hadn't really committed a crime at all but was really smart and was really just doing the same thing Sherlock does except with the roles reversed
also
>"he's a white supremacist, who cares"
>"oh ok sherlock i won't put up an argument ha ha whats the hippocratic oath lmao i dont have a character"
>>64505411
>I have to point out that it's insanely out of character for Sherlock Holmes to let MURDER slide for a greater political cause.
He's let a couple go, mostly on grounds of propriety and personal sympathy. If you parse his attitude as one of personal sympathy, it's easy enough to swallow, imo.
>>64502841
>>64502841
>Not just you, there was some clear feminist agenda stuff ("this is a war we have to lose", "there's an entire secret society of women who murder oppressive men but we'll let it slide and won't arrest anyone because they're underprivileged")
It was pretty fucking weak but there no reason to think Homes wouldn't of gotten 'em all hung if the dream hadn't collapsed on them.
>>64505492
>"he's a white supremacist, who cares"
Holmes is on record as despising the KKK, fwiw.
>>64505540
Yeah I remembered that, and it's a modernization, but I was referring to Watson's lack of response to that at all. what a beta
>>64502102
all dem buzz words
>>64500843
Sherlock and the attack of the feminists. Steven has been criticised for being sexist in the past. the episode was just a way of him saying he isn't. load of bullshit
>>64505442
you wouldnt enjoy that woman with zero sex or crush appeal lying to you 24-7, demeaning you as if you're off her league, castrating you and liking your friend more than you?
it's 2016
>>64502996
10/10 opinion
>>64505596
>Sherlock and the attack of the feminists. Steven has been criticised for being sexist in the past. the episode was just a way of him saying he isn't. load of bullshit
Pretty much. What's annoying but is Watson rightfully guesses it's radical feminists five minutes in and it's still treat as a big surprise.
>>64502857
>>64505564
>>64505498
>Next ep
>>Sherlock goes to dreamworld again, and investigates a murder at a cottonfarm during the days of the slavetrade.
>>Turns out the white slaveowners wife and one of the slaves killed him, but it was ok because he was a horribel person, Sherlock agrees to pin the murder on the areas competing cottonfarmer, whos an even more evil white man
Ummm… Doesn't some thing like that more or less literally happen in one of the original stories?
>>64505596
Do a quick google search. The episode was apparently criticised for comparing feminists to KKK. If that's what he attempted to do, he failed.
>>64505498
my point is that Sherlock's deductive reasoning would have told him that literally murdering men to further the feminist cause is absolutely fucking retarded. He's a guy who trusts almost no one with their power due to the vast majority of people being dumber than him. Why the fuck would he trust a bunch of housewives to selectively kill men for their social cause?
>>64502996
>The back-and-forth structure didn't work for me. I would have prefered a standalone mystery set in the past.
I would have preferred *either* that or a hard cut to the present and give us the first half-hour of S4 proper. The back-and-forth was irritating.
>>64505679
>my point is that Sherlock's deductive reasoning would have told him that literally murdering men to further the feminist cause is absolutely fucking retarded.
Well, you should've said that, then, instead of what you actually said.
I DON'T GET IT
IS MOFFAT A SJW OR NO
OR SO-SO??
PLS EXPLAIN
>>64505782
>entire episode is pro-suffrage
>makes suffragettes be the literal KKK
neither, he's just a fucking hack writer
>>64505716
>my point is that Sherlock's deductive reasoning would have told him that literally murdering men to further the feminist cause
They wouldn't murder men for a cause. They were murdering men for personal reasons and using the ghost as a smoke screen.
>>64505637
i bet this is one privilege Watson is fighting to get rid of
>>64505782
he's an out of touch boomer trying to appeal to people that despise everything he is and not getting it
>>64505844
>>64505907
kek what is this?
>>64505852
he could just be fucking with people. There must be plenty of dumbasses that clapped and cheered for the KKK-suffragettes behavior without even realizing how dumb the whole scenario was.
>Obscure but charming (and secretly best) tier
>>64503000
Considering how he deduced that Moriarty was gay, I'd say the other part of that post is right too.
Just to be certain, the entire thing was mind palaces within mind palaces and the only "real" bit was the very very end?
SJW Sherlock fans will do some strange mental gymnastics
>>64506033
it's just flat out weird that feminists are going "yeah we're like failed elliot rodgers"
imagine being their father or brother
Reminder that Peter Cushing is the best Holmes, and I love all his films.
>>64505999
Since when does being able to identify gay people mean you hate gay people? People throw around words like homophobe and racist way too often where there isn't any malicious intent
>>64505968
The only reason I'm not really mad about them is that Sherlock at the end says that none of it makes sense and Moriarty tells him its because he made it all up. Sherlock himself acknowledged how stupid the entire scenario was. Which made the whole thing worse in another way because it was like we were robbed a real mystery. Nothing makes sense and it was hand waved with lolitsadream so that the last half hour could be nonsensical meta-humor.
>>64505968
Well, there is always that possibility.
>>64506083
>he's got funny underwear
>he must be a faggot
>>64505958
no clue i'd love to know the source too anon
>>64506079
As long as /tv/'s cluttered with whining shitbuckets like you there'll be no need to imagine, anon.
>>64505999
>Considering how he deduced that Moriarty was gay
Dude slipped him his phone number on the DL.
I wouldn't call that 'deduction'.
>>64506130
>>64505907
>the u and the c are the same guy
ruined desu baka senpai
>>64506130
wow you'd be a shit sherlock holmes
>>64506141
that made zero sense
>>64506159
>lol bisexuals fuck all the time lmao
>>64506159
>2012
what a simpler time
Meanwhile in 2015 we had an old white man regenerate into a younger black woman on doctor who, undoubtedly setting the precedent for when the next doctor is and woman and/or black
>>64506192
fucking triggered hell, how much of a special snowflake are you
>>64506213
>Meanwhile in 2015 we had an old white man regenerate into a younger black woman on doctor who
glad I stopped watching after the ISIS two-parter
Capaldi deserves better
>>64506033
>It was justified cause the women of that age did not have equal rights
Please tell me this person is from /tv/ and just trolling? the idea that we have cucks that belive women have the right to murder men is just scary
>>64506228
Moff's strange, one week he can somehow shit out a piece of gold that's almost universally regarded as one of the best episodes of doctor who ever (peter capaldi on his own for a solid 45 minutes, it was legitimately amazing and you should go watch that one) and the next week he can completely shit the bed and piss everyone off by not only doing that regeneration (which to be fair most people don't really care much about) but alsogiving clara her very own tardis
>>64506134
>>64506286
>that spoiler
n-no, please be rusing me
>>64506286
>peter capaldi on his own for a solid 45 minutes, it was legitimately amazing and you should go watch that one
what episode is this?
>>64505844
>>64505442
there's literally not one scene of those two that isnt a nightmare
>>64506316
holy shit, army is so gay
>>64506318
The best part?Her chameleon arch gets broken too and her tardis is stuck looking like an american diner
>>64506325
Heaven Sent, go and watch it. It's technically the second part of a loose three parter, but all you need to know going into it is that in the previous episodeclara dies after her attempt of a clever plan backfires on her and the doctor is sent away as part of a trap
>>64506274
>the idea that we have cucks that belive women have the right to murder men is just scary
It's weird that you think that's what they were saying.
>>64506407
i'll give it a look, i like capaldi but only watched the Who episodes that was essentially about him telling fangirls and tumblr to accept him as an old man
>>64506468
That one's not the best representation of his character, but first episodes of a new doctor usually aren't. They instantly ditched the 'accept the old man' after his first episode and he went straight into fitting the role perfectly. The basic Capaldi essentials are Listen, Mummy on the Orient Express, Flatline and Heaven Sent. S8 particularly (and S9 also to an extent) has much more of an ongoing character story than previous serieses, the adventures are still all separate but it's basically a character drama where you see how the doctor and clara both change over the course of the series. It's easy enough to pick up what has happened in episodes prior to that point, but keep that in mind in case a couple things don't make perfect sense
>>64506539
oh sure, i'll watch with that in mind.
I saw a lot of Tennant (and all of the guy before) and some of BigFace's but Clara I know almost nothing about so I'll be watching it minding the gap
>>64500843
Sherlock: The Adorable Bride
>>64506629
For what it's worth clara never had much of a character or personality before S8. I'm the type that'd recommend just watching capaldi's era straight through without skipping episodes, I don't know if you have that sort of time though.
>>64506629
Not him, but I never watched it all and started just for Capaldi. A lot of it is awful shite, some bits are fun, almost exclusively Capaldi. If you can put up with a lot of naff shit (and you're in a Sherlock thread so I expect you can) and a lot of jaw-droppingly unearned Big Emotional Moments, then there's about enough in there to keep you going.
And the second last episode of the most recent season really is top-notch, easily the best of the two seasons, a whole other level.
>>64506684
nah i find there's a limit to dr who i can take since it can go up and down so much and a lot of the time it's just bad scifi in public tv propaganda. But Capaldi can sure help
>>64503685
Try this. Seriously. Best bad movie in ages.
>>64506770
>jaw-droppingly unearned Big Emotional Moments
oh i know, i still remember Tennant running with that olympic torch
but looking foward for more capaldi
>>64506795
If you're going to pick and choose, avoid Kill the Moon, Forest of the Night and Sleep No More. The latter two are almost unanimously regarded as the worst of their respective series, KTM's a little more mixed but still has a fair amount of distaste surrounding it
>>64506888
i'll give Heaven Sent a shot first to see how different Capaldi is from the first episodes
>>64506939
Just be aware you're starting off with the best
>>64501448
>[Sir Eustace Carmichael] knew her out in the States. Promised her everything. Marriage, position, and then he *had his way with her*. And threw her over. Left her abandoned and penniless.
Sure sounds like rape to me. I'm not defending the Feminist-KKK subplot. It was cringeworthy and felt tacked-on. But the women certainly had a legitimate motive to kill those men.
