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Scorsese is 72.
De Palma is 75.
Coppola is 76.
Oliver Stone is 69.
Ridley Scott is 78.
Malick is 72.
Woody Allen is 80.
Michael Mann is 72.
Miyazaki is 74.
Polanski is 82.
James Cameron is 61.
Spielberg is 69.
George Lucas is 71.
Joel Coen is 61.

Within ten years it's very likely that many of the young bucks who changed the face of Hollywood in the 70's will be gone.
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most of these are mediocre at best now and we have Nolan to save us
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>>64435862
> implying Nolan is as good as these people

GTFO
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>>64435891
he's better
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>>64435913
explain how Nolan is better than Scorsese, Spielberg, or James Cameron
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Joel Coen is 61? Holy shit, no
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>>64435952
He appeals to the kids who want to be mature without having the brain
He really fits well with that manchildren era when everything think a deep movie must be bland, empty and boring as Nolan movies
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>>64435862
Here's your reply faggot
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>>64435997
a world without Coen brothers is a world I dont want to live in

>>64436034
Truth. Nolan is the god of pseudo intellectuals.
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>>64435813
Lucas, Spielberg and Cameron ruined Hollywood so I don't give a shit.
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Is there any good young directors?
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>>64436094
Tarantino
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>>64436090
Lol what? How? They made great movies. The fact that they inspired shitty imitators is not their fault.

>>64436094
Depends how you define young. I guess Fincher and Cuaron are pretty good but I don't put them in the same league as these other guys.
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>De Palma
>Coppola
>Oliver Stone
>Woody Allen
>Michael Mann
>Polanski
>George Lucas

All objectively washed up hacks now. Will not mourn thier deaths.
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>>64436094
Me. Heads up for a young buck directing a brilliant short horror film some time later this year.
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Zozzle, Allen is 80 and just dropped a pile of shit. What a way to go out.
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>>64436094
zack snyder
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>>64436125
Kek
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>>64436227
He said good directors
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It's hard to believe a 70 year old man directed Wolf of Wall Street. I love Scorsese so much im going to cry when he die.
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Was this Woody Allen's last great flick?
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>>64436286
Woody Allen is trash, now and always.
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>>64436208
Wow, so you're actually doing the zozzle thing?
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>>64436150
They started the blockbuster franchise shtick which has saturated the market for years.
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>>64436125
I love QT but I thin he's on his way out

>>64436227
Snyder is good but he really only knows visuals. He can't function without source material.
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>>64436359
George Lucas actually sorta admitted that he turned Hollywood into that. I doubt that's what they thought would happen, they just wanted to make cool shit.
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>>64436094
Inarritu
Fincher
Cuaron
Phil Lord and Chris Miller
Rian Johnson
Villeneuve
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>>64435813
>James Cameron is 61

based james has another 30 years left in him

can't wait for his reminiscent and wistful geriatric stage
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>>64436286
Midnight in Paris was released after it and is pretty good
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There's going to be no more great directors. Just a sea of Marc Webs who manage Disney/MCU formula generated flicks.
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>>64436034
Nolan is trying so hard to be Malick with structure but it's simply not possible.
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>>64436411
Inarritu is a pretentious hack

Fincher is good, I'll give you that

Cuaron is good but hardly directs anyting

Phil Lord and Chris Miller? I mean they're funny but I would never list them in a "best of" list

Rian Johnson is kinda cool. I loved Ozymandias.

Villeneuve I'll also give you. He might really become something in time.
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Boomers pls go. It's time for the new kids now.
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>>64435813
>Ridley Scott is 78
It's amazing how competent he is.
He should be pooping his pants and having Alzheimer's not directing one grand picture every year.
You can question the scripts but not his directing abilities. He's still one of the top guys out there.
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>>64435813

I didn't know the Coen Bros were so old, wow.
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>>64436510
>You can question the scripts but not his directing abilities. He's still one of the top guys out there.
This. The man is elderly and he's still a master of visuals. It's very impressive.
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>>64436208
>Allen's next film is starring Jesse Eisenberg and Kristen Stewart
RIP in peace old man.
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>>64436411
Good list
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The age of auteurs is over. Now is the return of the age of studios.
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Paul Thomas Anderson (eat shit memers)
Fukunaga
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Most of these directors would be considered reddit directors if reddit existed in their hayday.
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>>64436411
Villeneuve is the most promising director. He has a chance to shine
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I thought Spielberg was older desu. What an impressive body of work for his age.
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>>64436578
PTA is the only director I would put on the same level as Scorsese and Coppola and the other people

Fukunaga though? No way. Beasts of No Nation was only okay.
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>>64436614
Not with the shit script he's been filming.
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>>64435862
Bait.png
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>>64436643
Fukunaga has so much promise as a director it blows Villenueve out of the water. At only 38 he's show a real mastery of visuals.
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>>64436090
This
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>>64436721
mastery? thats pretty strong. Beasts of No Nation looked fine visually but it wasn't like Ridley Scott level or anything
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>>64436094
I think Fincher is alright
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>>64436150
>Lol what? How? They made great popcorn explosion shit that displaced character studies like The Godfather.


Go back to your netflix suggestion thread
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>>64436766
I disagree, I haven't seen The Martian and sure it wasnt Blade Runner but both True Detective and Beasts of No Nation was gorgeous
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>>64436874
I agree that blockbusters have become too prevalent, but their blockbusters were still really good. Blame the shitty executives who only greenlight reboots, not Cameron and Lucas.
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>>64436766
Any idea why ridley isnt directing bladerunner 2 anymore?
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>>64437012
Idk Villeneuve is taking over. That movie is gonna fucking suck honestly.
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>>64435813
Is there even such large amount of good young directors?


Even late Coppola is far more interesting than... JJ Abrams generation

Carruth? Yes..

These guys you listed also worked with FREE industry compared to now (P.C. for starters) and were generally heads of their movies (where now its the production company calling how its done)

plus they worked with fucking sick DoPs like Vilmos who just died.
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>Scorsese
will probably survive all of us. Look at the Wolf of Wall Street and how much energy this fuck still has!
>De Palma
hopefully will die soon. Passion was the worst shit ever.
>Coppola
Apocalypse Now & The Godfather are allready made. He can die now. After Godfather III he only produced shit.

You forgot George Miller too. He's 70 now and just made the best movie in his entire career.
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>>64436090
Michael Cimino is responsible too. His rampant ego brought down a studio and made Hollywood terrified of giving a director too much control. The auteur era of Hollywood wasn't going to last forever but it might've lasted longer than it did if Cimino hadn't delivered the final blow.
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>>64437216
> implying Fury Road is better than Road Warrior
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>>64436639
>impressive body of work
>30 shit movies
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>People age and die
Wow, what a revelation
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>>64437074
Eh, it'll be better than most pointless sequels. There's no way it'll match the original film but with Denis Villeneuve, Roger Deakins and Ryan Gosling it won't be a total disaster.
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>>64435952
He may be worse than Scorsese but Spielberg and Cameron are shit-tier
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>>64437313
> Nolan is better than Spielberg or James Cameron

bait
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>>64437302
denis villeneuve will do nothing

deakins will direct it and it will ahve his generic, safe as fuck digital cinematography all over it which is a chore to get through at this point

and gosling will be underused as you literally have no good director working with him

>>64437313
Haha
>badmouthing Spielberg unironically
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The only two of the "younger" directors that will leave a mark, if you like it or not, are QT and Fincher.

And probably Peter Jackson.
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>>64437443
Peter Jackson left a mark but he now has zero fucking clue how to edit himself and everything he makes will be over 3 hours
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>>64437436
>denis villeneuve will do nothing
>deakins will direct it
What makes you think Denis has no real artistic input on his films?
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>>64437443
Fincher already has a following, fucking Whiplash was ripping off his understanding of digital directing and cinematography (albeit, badly)

>Quentin
ALready left a mark with Pulp Fiction like it or not ground breaking movie in 'storytelling'
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>>64437382
>le cameron is a god meme XDD
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>>64437443
QT is only doing 2 more movies
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>>64437443
All of them have already left a mark.
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>>64437510
Lol dude, Nolan hasn't made anything half as good as Terminator 2.

>>64437514
I heard he might move to TV or theater.
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>>64437490
made a Nolan movie
made a terrible attempt at 'Lynchian' film
then the two other movies are literally just, Deakins digital cinematography run through cinematography.exe and.. movie was born.

I cannot for the life of me distinct Denis Villeneuve in any of his films. I see his influences and in the later career I only see the DOP.
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>>64437561
They're all fucking garbage so who cares?
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>>64437579
>made a Nolan movie
What?
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>>64437561
Terminator 2 is fucking trash. At least Terminator 1 was actually "shut your brain off" fun. T2 is just some gay kid teaching a robot how to say "cowabunga"
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>>64437614
>hasn't seen Incendies.
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>>64437632
pretty sure this is bait but T2 basically revolutionized visual effects. And it was just cool as fuck like honestly how could you not enjoy it
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>>64437683
I quite legitimately hated every second
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And we will be left with Nolan, Wright, Snyder, Abrams and all the hacks that fanboys admire all too much. :(
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>>64435813
>Woody Allen is 80.
That one's very sad to me. He's one of the greatest stand-up comedians who ever lived, and his films are very meaningful to me. When he dies, tumblr is going to rejoice. Makes me sad.
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>people get old and die

Who cares?
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>>64437797
>Generation of idiots influenced by Shitbrick

Horrible, horrible future.
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>>64436094
Ayodade.
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Steve McQueen is easily better than Villenueve, PTA, Fukunaga, Nolan, Fincher, Cuaron, Innuratu and Tarantino but /tv/ gives him no respect cuz he black
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>>64436094
Not even bait desu
Still waiting his first bad movie
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>>64438509
>OGF
Yeah
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>>64438327
he's a garbage man
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>>64435813
>We have no good up and coming directors to replace them
>cinematic universe capshits will be heralded as the greatest thing since slice bread in the next 40 years.
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>>64438327
Extremely superficial, tacky director. Shame's just a fucking insult to anyone that's ever been an addict
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>>64435813
Nobody knows who any of those people are
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>>64436571
YOU'RE SAYING THAT LIKE IT'S A GOOD THING, BECAUSE IT'S NOT. NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST OR THE LEAST IS THIS A GOOD THING. LOOK NO FURTHER THAN THE FORCE AWAKENS; A PRODUCTION LINE FILM THAT ONLY SERVES TO SELL TICKETS, NOT TELL A STORY OR FURTHER A UNIVERSE BUT TO TELL TICKETS, AND TOYS AND THEME PARK RIDES...we're losing something precious and unless some one has the way of thought to save it I fear we're forever frakked because I promise you the big billionaire studios will not let their kind in again. They'll look out for the Kubriks' and don't hire them, and they'll especially look out for scripts written by guys that are the modern day equivalent to Citizen Kane, then they'll buy those scripts, toss them into the vault and forget about it.
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>>64436482
I really do not want to finish like all the autists here which spazz out just because you dont have the same opinion that I do, but you're so wrong and you shuold feel really bad
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>>64441015
About what? I listed off multiple opinions, I dont know what youre referring to
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>>64436482
Inarritu is p. bad.
Fincher is. p. good.
Cuaron... weird spot. Good execution, but I dont think his made his 'own' movie yet, he doesn't quite feel auteur yet.

VIlleneuve is shit
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>>64438694
Wow. Is obvious this board cant find new good directors if OGF is deemed bad here.
It's probably the Eraserhead of our generation
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>no one mentioning Soderbergh
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>>64441105
lol you are rearching a bit there m8.
eraserhead sold more posters than ogf did tickets.
eraserhead was instantly iconic.
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>>64441395
> lol
> bases the value of a movie on how much it makes
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>Ridley Scott is 78

Wow honestly thought he was in his mid-50's.
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>>64436125
The man's been on a gradual downward slope since Reservoir Dogs.
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what about Andrew Dominik
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>>64441534
all great films in cinema were hits that made money
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>Clint Eastwood is 85
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>>64441242
The director definition of all over the place, great camerawork though

>>64441625
If he made more than one film per decade maybe we'd see his actual potential, same with Cuaron
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>>64441590
yes, he made alien when he was 12
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The idea of auteurs making features is dying. The next great motion picture artists are probably making youtube shorts and gifs right now.
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>>64441738
all over the place because he can do it in any style
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>>64438817
More like 5-10 years.

We're in the 1970's right now, the disaster movie studio schlock era. The amount of money they're having to sink into these films, a string of high-profile flops would be enough to kill a studio completely.

Pretty soon we'll have the 1980 death of the disaster movie (capeshit), and then the Hollywood crash. Following that they won't risk sinking $200 million+ into a film and we'll see a new generation like Lucas, Spielberg, Cameron, Scorsese, Scott, etc emerge to make lower-budget, more artistically-worthwhile high-concept movies.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WOnRAvdK2s

>tfw coppolas dream was a lie
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>>64436094
Panos Cosmatos
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>Carruth
>Gray
>Korine
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>>64442099
little fat girl is Lena Dunham

the dream was a nightmare
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>>64442115
This.

I don't understand why he doesn't have any further projects lined up, Beyond the Black Rainbow is one of the best films I've seen in at least ten years.
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>>64442099
how was it a lie? there are many great indie directors
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>Mann and Malick are the same age
>Blackhat and KoC are ABSOLUTE KINOGRAPHY
>they're the most successful experimental filmmakers of that generation, freer and fresher than 20yo filmmakers
You can tell that Coppola and Scott have gone senile, that Allen's navel-gazing well has gone dry decades ago, or that Scorsese has stopped challenging himself. Somehow Mann and Malick are very alike, they share a common desire to push new techniques forward, without sacrificing their unique artistic sensibilities, unlike Spielber and Cameron, who, while admirable in their unrelentness towards innovation, also cater too much to the safe mainstream expectations by playing the blocbuster card. Mann and Malick have somehow achieved pure sensuality and visual poetry through movements and gestures, by either getting rid of traditional narratve in Malick's case or simply by embracing the most archetypal plots in Mann's case.
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>>64442256
Ridley Scott suffers from not giving a fuck if the studio gets involved. The narrated version of Blade Runner was the only version for a decade
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>>64436547
>The man is elderly and he's still a master of visuals. It's very impressive.
What amazes me is how blind most people are, still giving credit to Scott even though he has been horrible for decades. Exodus is one of the ugliest films made in the last few years. It's almost as bad as Snyder aesthetics.
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>>64442256
Malicks not experimental
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>>64442178
>Korine
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>>64436094
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>>64442440
He is auteur so?
This is not about quality of being good or bad.
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>>64442520
yes it is, OP was mad about directors being shit
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oh hey guys
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>>64442219
Maybe he's lining them up right now and is taking a long time so he gets them right.
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>>64442587
>>64442587
>

Within ten years it's very likely that many of the young bucks who changed the face of Hollywood in the 70's will be gone.

he was listening influential people

not good or bad
not auteurs
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>>64442629
But he doesn't make movies anymore
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>>64435813
>this list
>no Cronenberg

your a idiot
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>>64442756
>Cronenberg
>hollywood
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>>64437218
Cimino is not responsible for the end of New Hollywood, this is such a profund misundestanding of the forces that were at play. He was an artist fulfilling his creative vision with the budget and power he was rightfully given. The way the American audiences and critics reacted to HG is what was wrong. The truth is by 1980, America had already gone full retard. If it had came out two years before, it would have had a good reputation. I will never understand how everybody then could appreciate the Visconti-an pacing and visual perfectionism of Deer Hunter and praise its qualities, then turning on Cimino so viciously when he went to the next level a couple years later when both films have the exact same tone, style, pacing, influences, themes, flaws and qualities. There was a deep schizofrenia from the critics and audiences. Look at all the un-visual, vulgar, dumb, infantilizing shit that became popular instead. HG stands the test of time wonderfully and Cimino deserved so much better.
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>>64441625
shat the bed with his meme guy ritchie crime flick after he realized he couldn't ape terry without deakins' involvement
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>>64435862
That's a lot of chum right there
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>>64442099
>"To me, the great hope is that now these little 8mm video recorders and stuff have come out, and some... just people who normally wouldn't make movies are going to be making them. And you know, suddenly, one day some little fat girl in Ohio is going to be the new Mozart, you know, and make a beautiful film with her little father's camera recorder. And for once, the so-called professionalism about movies will be destroyed, forever. And it will really become an art form. That's my opinion."
-- Coppola at the end of Hearts of Darkness

>"Francis is a great man but he's so wrong. That's the problem [with contemporary cinema]. The problem is ease of access."
-- James Gray on Coppola's quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o78yGsJpUA0
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>>64442752
it's a shame, Buffalo '66 is the best movie of the 90s. often duplicated, never replicated
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>>64442845
>then turning on Cimino so viciously when he went to the next level a couple years later when both films have the exact same tone, style, pacing, influences, themes, flaws and qualities
you just told us
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>>64436125
MMMM!
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>"I don’t want to repeat what has been said and written by so many others before me, about all the changes in the business, and I’m heartened by the exceptions to the overall trend in moviemaking – Wes Anderson, Richard Linklater, David Fincher, Alexander Payne, the Coen Brothers, James Gray and Paul Thomas Anderson are all managing to get pictures made, and Paul not only got The Master made in 70mm, he even got it shown that way in a few cities. Anyone who cares about cinema should be thankful."
-- Martin Scorsese

>"Frankly, I am quite alone in what it is I even want to do. I have a couple of filmmaker friends who have similar ambitions, but even so they're similar but not exactly the same... The closest friend I have to me in spirit, in what we're trying to do, is probably James Gray."
-- Paul Thomas Anderson

>"I know James. He is the model."
-- Paul Thomas Anderson
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>>64436482
>Inarritu is a pretentious hack
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>>64435813
I'll be stoked when Scorsese and Speilberg die desu senpai
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>>64435813
Forgot about Clint Eastwood
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>>64436150
>I guess Fincher and Cuaron are pretty good but I don't put them in the same league as these other guys.

I think it's hard to really assess directors until it's way past their time, part of it is because their influence and whether their movies have that timeless quality are things that can only be seen years after the fact, and there's also a difference between "was good forty years ago but got shit" and "stayed good for forty years" yknow?
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>>64441649
Except that's a lie
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>>64443049
Why would i listen to anyone that thinks The Immigrant is a good movie.
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>>64436165
sup reddit
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>>64436411
Noah Baumbach
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>>64440309
>wew lad
m8 he wasnt saying its a good thing. re-read his post.
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Cimino killed United Artists, the powerhouse behind new hollywood. He deserves more than blame and a pitiful career.
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>>64436411
I wish Fincher would direct a film that acutally has substance (again) like social network just better
Villeneuve is really, really promising too.
I don't really care for the others though I enjoy their films.
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>>64443226
well name some
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>Jim Jarmusch is sixty-two
For some reason this really bothers me. Maybe because he always had fashionable white hair, but always made movies for young hipsters. He looks the same as he did 20 years ago. It's just unbelievable that he's actually getting old.
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>>64443368
Gone Girl had plenty of substance WHILE being a classic Hitchcock thriller AND a comedy about media and relationships.
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>>64443445
I don't think it had much substance, it was an airplane novel made into something slightly better. Fincher always wants to be working it seems, even if it means some random script.
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My 2 cents on the good and the bad of the current gen, and talking only north american directors now, rest of the world is another can of worms:

Of the older end of the spectrum,

- Sodebergh is a very interesting guy, a man of many talents who is similar to the old studio system directors, he can make something good out of any damn script you throw at him, regardless of genre or budget; for me he's more interesting to see what he's doing than what 'auteurs' that have a distinctive style are doing (QT and so on)
- Fincher is an excellent technical director, but he kind of needs others to feed him scripts. He's like kubrick if he never made Barry Lyndon, proving he's got that kind of range.
- Linklater is the logical extension of Altman and other 70s cinema of the Easy Rider/Two Lane Blacktop type and he also seems to have a lot in common with people like Herzog and Errol Morris to me but I wish he'd do more stuff like Bernie, applying his interest in people and places to more interesting stories than something like Boyhood or the Before trilogy

Of the new guys:
- Villeneuve can do good things, I hope he doesn't fall too far into Hollywood though, it would make him a more boring director
- Derek Cianfrance, I hope he'll stay in the business because there's a lot of heart behind Blue Valentine and Place Beyond the Pines is a surprisingly experimental script for a movie like that
- Jeff Nichols has done no wrong so far, again his movies seem to come from a place of real honesty
- James Gray is a guy who understands what movies should be and I hope he manages to make more stuff and stretch out more

There are others but I don't know if they're so great.
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>>64435813
>Polanski is 82.
This surprised me the most.
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>>64443506
Rewatch it after you get married
It's a true horror film
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we have xavier dolan
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>>64438743
Hunger was a good film, Shame was an overreach IMO but isn't that what a great director does? Push limits?
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>>64436525

well theyve been churning out films for 30 years now
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>>64436571
Are you fucking stupid? You realize that the idea of "auteurs" was born out of critical reevaluation of the directors who worked in the studio system?
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>>64443522
Kubrick had a writing credit on almost all of his films, he would use source material but he was no Fincher
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>>64443655
the conclusion was the directors with the most power made the best films.
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He's older than everyone ITT and still makes good films.
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>>64442845
>He was an artist fulfilling his creative vision with the budget and power he was rightfully given.
He was given of budget of $11 million and started filming in April of 1979. He didn't finish filming until March of 1980 and ended up costing the studio over $40 million. He let his Oscar win get to his head and took down a studio in the process. Whether or not Heaven's Gate is a good film is irrelevant, there's no denying him killing a studio had a terrible effect on Hollywood.
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Why is Villeneuve so inauthentic? He makes Nolan look like someone who has a personality. Nolan for all his flaws has something endearing about him, something fragile, a result of his hubris and sudden success.

Only the Birdman spic and Aronofsky rival Villeneuve. They truly belong in the trash.
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>>64443506
>>64443572

I don't know what's gone wrong with Fincher. The pacing and specific sequences in Zodiac are so tight, so well directed, the say so much visually.

Then he goes and does GWTDT, which is fine, but if that movie were made in Sweden on a budget 5 times smaller it would actually be better. He just does nothing interesting with it.

Then Gone Girl, which feels even lower than that. It's better in terms of the portrayal of Ben Affleck's character's relation to the media, there's something interesting there, but then it goes into head-scratchingly edgy territory that I didn't expect from a director of Fincher's age. I thought he got that out of his system with Seven seeing how restrained Zodiac is, and now this...
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>>64435813
it's okay nolan is still there
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>>64436165
>Not including Spielberg in that list
The man hasn't done a thing worth noting since Jurassic Park.
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>>64443752
This
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>>64443843
Catch Me If You Can was great though.
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Who'll pick up the mantle once these guys pass?
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>>64443690

I'm talking in terms of style and approach: very technical, very methodical and what I would call 'cold', mechanical filmmaking.

Regardless of who wrote what, the point is you can get a feel for a director by the projects he chooses. Many of Kubrick's films feel cold, but Barry Lyndon does not, proving he has the range to do many things.

Fincher hasn't made that movie yet, Benjamin Button doesn't really work as far as I'm concerned.
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>>64441649
Blade runner
Shawshank Redemption
Willy Wonka
Citizen Kane
Wizard of Oz
Fight Club
Iron Giant
Rocky Horror
All flops.
You're argument is invalid, get a job.
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>>64435813
De Palma is 75.
Coppola is 76.
Oliver Stone is 69.
Ridley Scott is 78.
Woody Allen is 80.
Michael Mann is 72.
Polanski is 82.
Spielberg is 69.
George Lucas is 71.
James Cameron is 61.
>a bunch of washed up hacks who havent directed anything of value in Yeats
Why should I care?
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>>64443843
Lincoln was quite good. It's why I didn't include him.

Guy needs to step up his game though.
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>>64443949
those all made tons of money after for various though, find me a "lost classic". Iron Giant counts but it's the exception, find me another
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>>64435813
>Scorsese
Hack
>De Palma
Ultra hack, fedora edition
>Coppola is 76
His talent transferred into Sofia
>Oliver Stone
Meh
>Ridley Scott
Ultra hack, fedora edition
>Malick is 72
Will live to 90
>Woody Allen is 80
Degenerate shit hasn't made anything good in a long time
>Mann is 72
His style is impressionable, I'm sure there will be another young Mann by the time he goes
>Miyazaki is 74
Anime is for immature children (aka fedoras)
>Polanski is 82
Like Allen, he's a degenerate who hasn't produced anything of quality for awhile
>JC is 61
Only useful for pioneering special effects and memes
>Spielberg is 69
Literal boring conventional Hollywood schmaltzy hack
>George Lucas is 71
Memelord obviously isn't interested in doing anything anymore
>Joel Coen is 61
Jews tend to live a long time, he's got another 20 or so years left in him so that means a lot more films
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>>64443978
>anything of value in Yeats
when can we ban phoneposting trash like you
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>>64443872
Fuck that Hollywood just needs to die

It doesn't deserve more at this point
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>>64443918
Space is cold, war is cold, high society is cold, death is cold
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>>64444020
>those all made tons of money after for various though
Fight Club destroyed an entire studio. No one cares that 10 years later home video rentals caught up to its losses (or today, MUH CHINA)
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>Jim jarmusch is 60 something

Wait

What
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>>64443949
>Wizard of Oz
This is a canard that's largely been debunked. It did well at the box office, it just didn't somehow become the kind of giant that people today expect as a metric of success.
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>>64444028
Polanski is an open degenerate, it separates himself from closet-pedo Woody

>yfw Mel isn't allowed to make cinema anymore
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>forgetting wim wenders
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>>64442256
>Using cheap digital cameras that make his films look cheap and televisual
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>>64444142
half the Ramones are dead
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>>64443918
>Fincher hasn't made that movie yet

He never will. He's an ego-driven money burner but aesthetically he's a pod person with no soul.
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>>64443865
>Catch Me If You Can

-- hate director
-- hate leo
-- oh fuck tom hanks again

> somehow the combination is amazing

I want this Spielberg, not the fuckwit who thinks his job is jerking tears from his audience.
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>>64444185
more like meme memers
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>>64444206
ALL the Ramones are dead
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>>64444206
>half
All of the original members of the Ramones are dead.
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Now we have:

Tarantino
Fincher
Snyder
Whedon
Nolan
Iñárritu
Edwards
Chazelle

So, who cares? There will always be good directors.
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>>64444260
what's wrong with someone being warm and having happy endings? there's no point in bad endings if they're all bad.
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>>64444280
>>64444281
oh lord, RIP Ramones
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>>64443918
I'll watch Barry Lyndon but every Kubrick film I've seen that wasn't FMJ was him confusing cinematography for direction. I have zero fucks to give about someone showing me his knowledge of the golden mean or thinking movies should end on closeups of Jack Nicholson being dead (twice).
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>>64444031
Don't you ever fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>>64444285
>snyder
>whedon
nice bait
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>>64435997
Blood Simple was released 32 years ago.
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>>64444285
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>>64444056
>it's getting cold isn't it?
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>>64444158
Mel Gibson's next directorial effort comes out this year, bro
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>>64444303
>what's wrong with someone being warm and having happy endings?
I said nothing of the sort nor do I disagree with that, I'm saying that the director of Jaws and Duel sold his soul to make sparkly appeals to sentiment with music that tells you what to feel and when. CMIYC was a welcome departure and worked because I didn't feel like the movie was standing over my shoulder telling me FEEL BAD FOR HIM, HE'S JUST A KID over and over
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Fincher's aesthetics on his three last films are pretty great i love them
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>>64444378
image.jpg
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>>64435813

The Coens are ageless spiritual entities; they'll be with us until the next wave of cinema.
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>>64444565
>Fincher's aesthetics
> spend as much money on CGI as possible
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>>64444028
opinions

DISCARDED
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>>64435862
(You)
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>>64435813
SJWs hating old white men is almost literally hating nearly all great films ever made

Every get the impression those SJW fuckers have an inferiority complex?
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>>64444361
The Shining and which other Kubrick film end w/ dead Jack?
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>>64444513

Yeah but it's an oscar bait flick about a chapelain that won't kill during WWII.
May be interesting but deep down we all know what Mel actually wants.
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>>64444513
>Andrew Garfield
>Vince Vaughn
>Sam Worthington
>Hugo Weaving

not sure what to think
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>>64444285

We're doomed. Also, Chazelle and Edwards are clear one-hit wonders.
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>>64444797
Back to /v/ retard
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>>64444841
>>Vince Vaughn
>>Sam Worthington

AUUUGGGHHH

The studio literally wants him to fail by giving him those charisma black holes.
He could cast fucking Gary Oldman and all his talent would be sucked out by those 2 fuckers.
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>>64444803
I bet that idiot thinks he directed OFOTCCN (One Flew Over The CooCoos Nest)
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>>64444935
>you will never watch Mel Gibson direct Vince Vaughn going off on the jew
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>>64444860
What fucking hit does Edwards have?
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>>64444942
Yeah, afaik Jack only appeared in one Kubrick movie.
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Based Cary Joji Fukunaga will save television directing after he's done killing true detective.
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>>64444565

I personally don't agree, at least as far as Gone Girl is concerned. It looks like a generic indie movie to me, very washed out. There's an overall blue tone to the film but I feel like there isn't a lot of vision behind the look of it, it doesn't really capture any feeling, it just kind of goes along
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>>64445012
Brando was based beyond his time
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>>64445037
I hate that Scorsecsese and JJ left "their shows", both of which could've been great. Lynch directing every TP episode could be amazing
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>>64444942
well fuck me, it was Miloš Forman (who is also getting on in years and weirdly did a turn acting in Keeping the Faith). I rescind my comment about Jack but I stand by my point that he was a glorified cinematographer.
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>>64436125
>>64436227
>>64436411
back to /v/co/reddit/
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>Polanski is 82
Holy fuck this whole time I thought he was in his 60s
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>>64445037
Fukunaga is tied up in looking like a fucking motion picture.
1995 True Detective looked faked and phony as shit noir.
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>>64445117
you're still wrong though. anyone who has read The Shining can confirm this.
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>>64444020
Sorcerer. You're argument is invalid.
Touch of evil.
Brazil
Time Bandits
Harold & Maude
Dazed & confused
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>>64445110

No way a director like that, or a director in general really, could stick with a series that takes such a long time. The american system for series doesn't work well for that.

Now give me one of these directors putting together a clear, well-written (with a beginnig and an ending), interesting mini series similar to how of Band of Brothers did it and then we'd actually get a golden age of tv and tv directing in particular
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>>64437510
He's far better than Nolan and with Sberg it's arguable.

Nolan can't make anything close to as good as the Terminators.
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>>64443316
>lowqualbait.jpeg
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>>64438327
McQueen pretends to be artistic with long shots and sparse dialogue. His films don't have anything meaningful to say, but if you're a pleb fresh off worshiping Nolan, you might imagine they do. But I agree the other directors you mentioned aren't much better.
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>>64445246
You don't need a fucjubg Jewwood director for miniseries to be good.

Generation Kill did without one and is probably the best thing ever, same with Band of Brother.
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>>64445246
JJ could've made 4 seasons of LOST if he wanted to I bet, and probably would have had a bigger career. Or at least be more than "executive producer"
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>>64445117

On some level you're right. You can tell he started in photography and sort of never let that go. He's a motion picture photographer.

I think he just didn't have the empathy to be a director on the same level as some of the great humanist directors (Renoir, Bresson, Bergman etc). Too interested in the image itself.
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>>64445325
>Meaningful ti say
What a stupid comment at least make up something smarter like

>Hunger
Shit because it was just interested in the pain. Not even about character feeling the pain.

>Shame
Shallow understanding of addiction

btw never seen either movie lol
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David Simon is the thing that makes TV good that man is a fucking monster
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>>64445478
his cinema skills are amateur compared to David Chase
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>>64444285
truly epic anon, just epic
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>>64445348
No you don't I agree. I'm saying 'big name' directors could do it and it would be interesting in the same way Kieslowski did it with decalogue and Trier with the kingdom, something like that. But if it's a fresh face that's great too with the right material.

>>64445362
What i'd rather do away with is the position of 'show runner'. make shorter, better, tighter series and you won't need a damn show runner
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>>64436090
Lucas hates "Hollywood" and fought the suits at every feasible opportunity.
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>>64445015

I was being generous with Monsters, but calling it a hit is definitely going too far, I agree.
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>>64445545
His proven himself to be probably the best writer ever to write for television and very good writer in general. Fucking loved GK and Show Me a Hero

>>64445578
I'd love for directors with vision to do series or even miniseries, I always hate low runtime of movies.

>tfw seen Decalogue but can't find a proper rip of the Riget
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>>64445584
In the 70s and 80s. Then he became the suits. Making megalomaniacal indie projects is just as bad if not worse than working for/with the studios
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>>64444028
>His talent transferred into Sofia
Lol what
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>>64445545

Chase is nearly retired, he knows topping the Sopranos would be almost impossible at his age.
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the best shits in the youtube, vimeo services right now but its too ug for you fucks before the greatest of modern wave are 'big directors'
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We still have
>PTA
>Fincher
>Carruth
>Refn
Enough to keep me interested for a while
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>>64445626
Series yes, but not the american style where you get funding for a season and then for another one if things go well and so on until the well runs dry.

Even with what critics might call good shows this is a problem, every series runs too long - Mad Men, BB, you name it, there are episodes and probsbly entire storylines that could be cut completely.

I just want to see a story that a writer decides requires 10 hours done as a mini series and that's it, we're done.
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>>64445802
how on earth does pta interest you

the fuck that fuck cant make up an original thought if you drugged him and put him read philosophy
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>>64445180
>1995 True Detective looked faked and phony as shit noir.

That's because you're trying to look for a noir in a X-Files wannabe.
Even my mom(she's 65) reconized the same style of TV from X-Files in True Detective.
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>>64445136

Underage anal blood does wonders.
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