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Did this fucker do it?
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>>64351151
Yes, but not the way the police claim. Also they planted evidence to make sure they would get a conviction.
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>>64351206
It just doesn't make sense to me. He was on the verge of getting half a million dollars from the state, as well as the potential millions he could get from the lawsuit. Why would he do this when he knows they are watching him like a hawk and waiting for him to slip up?

I don't know I'm still on the fence. At the least I think the police and the prosecutors handled this very poorly.
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>you will always be the nymph, never the prize
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>convict a kid of sexual assault when there's literally not one piece of evidence that it even happened

>>64351343
This too. It just doesn't make sense.

>the judge's rant about how society isn't safe referencing the rape case that he was acquitted of

what the actual fuck
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>>64351343
do you even redneck logic?

he thought he was untouchable after being acquitted.

>biased documentary is biased
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>>64351151
Yes, but Brendan is innocent.
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>>64351745
Why would he think he was untouchable? You would think he would be thinking the opposite. He spent 18 years for something he didn't even do, that's not untouchable.
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>>64351745
Of course it's biased, but there's literally no reason for him to murder this chick that was coming to take photos of his car. He's dealt with her before.
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>>64351802
ya?

>ya.

well then...
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>>64351802
He was told that he was a good boy who dindu nuffin, and the law is an evil conspiracy that's out to get him. He obviously has no respect for society.
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>>64351819
He murdered her to cover up the rape. He raped her because his gf was in jail and rednecks don't have any self control.
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>>64351926
so what motive did he have again?
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>>64351926
Well... He was a good boy who dindu nuffin in regards to the rape.

I don't know, the dude was brown water trash so I guess I can see where his lack of logic comes in.
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>>64352002
>no evidence of rape outside of a coerced confession from a very impressionable idiot

k
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A retarded guy in Wisconsin killed someone, and people unironically think he's innocent.
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are all the episodes on youtube yet?

if netflix really cared about justice they would have all the episodes on their official US and Canada youtube channel instead of worrying about their bottomline
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>>64352042
*mentally disabled
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>>64352002
the prize tells us he bought handcuffs few weeks before the crime took place in an email to a redditor. the series left this information out as well as 95% of the dassey interrogation footage.
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>>64352084
Triple bottom line: people, planet, and profit.
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>>64352084
Netflix doesn't give a fuck about this guy's innocence. They just wanted a compelling story in the current true crime meme to get more subs. Dumb as fuck to think otherwise.
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>>64352039
He didn't commit the rape in 1985, but it's not like he was an innocent little church boy. The guy was a thug and pervert before they sent him to jail, I'm not surprised that 18 years in prison turned him into a murderer.
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I'm on episode 4. Do I have more to look forward to? I'm having trouble thinking of what will happen. It seems pretty open and shut. Does it just get repetitive?
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>>64351151
No
The crime scene's evidence is laughable. The 16 year old was coerced by detectives and given bullshit advice by his lawyer and Mantitcow county wanted to get rid of lawsuit so the only way to do it was to charge him with murder and make him take a deal on the lawsuit so he could afford lawyers, CORRUPTION you gotta love it.
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>>64351151
Maybe. It is under suspicious circumstances.
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>>64352225
It doesn't start to get good until after then
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Did he?
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what does inconsistent mean
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>>64352346
Definitely
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>>64352346
oh god yeah, that shit at the end of it all but confirmed it
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>>64352386
uhhh
I don't know
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>>64351740
>>the judge's rant about how society isn't safe referencing the rape case that he was acquitted of
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>what the actual fuck

The judge was referring to Steven:

1 lighting a cat on fire for shits and giggles
2 brandishing a gun at a woman
3) flashing a woman
4) running a woman off the road

That's what the judge was talking about. Steven was escalating.
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pretty amazing that he can get his blood all over the vehicle but not a single fingerprint anywhere
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I said no... until the phone call the nephew makes with his mother where he explains how he went over to Avery's house before she got home at 5pm. He admits what happens wholeheartedly and I don't think knew that shit was being recorded.
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Probably did it, but the cops also probably tried to plant evidence, I'd say there is definitely a little reasonable doubt
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What a scumbag. He forced Brendan do draw things that didn't happen.
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INCONSISTENT
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i feel so bad for his defense attorneys
they did so well but the fix was in from the start, and hearing the reason dean strang hopes he did it made me sad as fuck
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>>64351151
fuck off and die
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>>64351343

Why does anyone ever commit a serious crime? There's more to life than money. Even if you'e poor you are still throwing away your career and family.

Having wealth doesn't stop people from making horrible decisions. Millionaires, athletes and celebrities commit stupid crimes all the time.

>At the least I think the police and the prosecutors handled this very poorly

Understatement of the year locked up on 1/1!
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>>64352424
fucking problem with record holding that all the little things you do in your life start to add up and even most minor fucking shit looks like a massive fucking deal
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My guess is Colborn found Teresa and her car a few days into the search, and acting on someone's authority drove it to the Avery property after calling in the plates. His lack of explanation for the call was some of the most damning evidence for misconduct on the part of the police. That doesn't mean Steven is innocent.
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>>64352710

>lighting an animal on fire
>pointing a gun at someone
>running a woman off the road

Those aren't minor things, those are all felonies
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>>64352424

5) Doesn't own underwear
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Does Wisconsin have a high Polish population? Almost everyone's last name ends in -ski.
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>>64352760
throwing cat over the fire was fucking retarded shit, pointing empty gun at a woman that talks shit about you is just poor judgement of the situation, running her off the road was again just retarded shit, hardly a crime
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how can i become the real prize?
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brendan would be here shitposting frog meems with us if it weren't for those 2 crooked cops

>tfw
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>>64352865

He wouldn't be able to figure out how to solve a captcha
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>>64352850
>running her off the road was again just retarded shit, hardly a crime

You've never seen a car/tree accident up close have you?
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>>64352865
JUST FEEL MY SHIT UP
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>>64352840
Yeah, not as high as german or irish, but probably the 3rd most significant immigrant group in Wisconsin. Especially on the south side of Milwaukee into Illinois
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>>64352850
>pointing empty gun at a woman that talks shit about you is just poor judgement of the situation

She didn't know it was empty and if he had done it to a cop or someone else with a gun he'd be dead. It's a pretty big deal.
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>>64352424
>all of these referencing 20+ years ago
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>>64352049
only because he's white
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>>64352084
>hurr what are torrents
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>>64352850
he poured oil and gasoline on the cat first
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>>64352256
>and Mantitcow county wanted to get rid of lawsuit so the only way to do it was to charge him with murder and make him take a deal on the lawsuit so he could afford lawyers

obviously since there's no way a cop could just kill him or anything, so they killed an innocent young lady instead and pinned it on him
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>>64352422
ya?
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>>64353215
ya
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>>64352850
americans ladies and gentlemen
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>>64352850
>hardly a crime
Have you skimmed the criminal code lately?
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>>64352865
he'd be on /asp/
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>a white dindu
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>>64353396
No, im White
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>>64351151
this documentary seemed a bit biased even if he didn't do it
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>>64352850
>white people
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>>64353160
no he didnt, the other guys did
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I wish this was made in a gonzo journalist style. I hate documentaries that just show archival footage and write updates on the way.
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>>64353537

That doesn't make it ok
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>>64353179
I don't know what happened I only saw the show but a wrongfully convicted man is set free then dies or disappears come on dude they're gonna be bringing in fbi and Mantitcow county would be crucified. The murder charge discredited Steven which is a lot better than to kill him. Bringing his nephew in was the icing on the cake not only did it strengthen the case but it also made the whole Avery family discreditable and reinforced what the "good" people of the county already thought and that was the Avery's were no good.
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>>64353572
its just afucking cat who cares holy shit
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>>64353572
he has an IQ of 70 so he was being influenced by the people around him but thanks for your astute observation
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>>64353567
Are you retarded? They were there the whole time. How was that archival footage? Fucking idiot
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>>64353619
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>>64353537
>>64353572
He was drunk off his ass I don't think it was an evil thing I just think it was a poor decsion on his part. The prosecutors turned it into and bigger deal than it was.
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>>64353619
how about i fucking set your pets on fire you stupid nigger
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>>64353667
Go fuck yourself dumbass. They showed plenty of archival footage. I'm guessing you don't even know what gonzo journalism is.
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>>64353728

I don't have pets
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>>64353754
then kill yourself my man
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>>64353680
>>64353728
> people getting raped and murdered on the street
> Veterans and bums alike starving on streets
> hundreds of other problems
> b-but m-muh cats
> b-but EDGEY
fuck off you cunts
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>>64353680
At a drunken bonfire party in Wisconsin WOW POOR DECISION FUELED BY ALCOHOL THIS PROVES HE CAN MURDER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THIS ONE TIME THING HE FELT BAD ABOUT IMMEDIATELY. HE'S A MURDERER HE'S A MURDERER! FUCK YOU FOR THING A CAT IS JUST AN ANIMAL INSERT BUZZWORD IMAGE
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>>64353843
>veterans
>top kek
Dont be mad at us, be mad at the people who decide it was a fucking crime you moron.
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>>64353852

You missed the point. Doing that to a cat by itself may not indicate any larger criminal intent. But he goes from lighting a cat on fire to flashing a woman to pointing a gun at a woman to running a woman off the road. He's escalating his behaviour so the cat, when viewed with the rest of his actions, show his true mentality.
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>>64353728
How about I set you on fire then you can really sympathize with a burned cat you fucking idiot. Go back to tumblr, 4chan isn't for you fucking bleeding heart pussy.
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>>64353952

But that's not the point either. I don't question that Avery's a bad guy, but he didn't rape that girl. They just took the opportunity to put a "bad guy" behind bars, and in doing so, allowed the actual rapist to walk around free, still raping other women.

Same thing is probably happening right now, with whoever really murdered Teresa
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>>64354019
E D G Y
E
D
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Y
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>>64353952
he never flashed a woman, he pointed an empty gun at a woman for saying he did because he'd mentally retarded and thought that would fix the problem
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>>64353537
youre right, im sorry.

sincere apologies to steven avery.
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>>64354116
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>>64353952
Separate things and they were resolved they don't hold any precedent over the murder charge. Even if we review the escalation it's fucked all those things happened before prison. He spent 18 years without a blemish on his prison record then he gets out for 2 years and escalates to extreme level to a point where he makes his nephew rape a women they shoot her and burn her body? It's bullshit.
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>>64354196
good, because he was drunk with an IQ of 70 so you should apologize for wanting him to rot in jail because you're a stupid peta activist
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>>64351343
Well the guy is a moron
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>>64354205
The fact that you have these images saved on your computer shows how edgy you really are.
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>>64354116
no retort uses buzzmaymay
I didn't expect anything more to be perfectly honest
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>>64353843
>there are worse crimes out there
>therefore this shouldn't be a crime

You should be a lawyer, anon
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>>64354267

Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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Why is it a crime to burn a cat, but not to step on a bug?
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>>64354462
no retort uses maymay
I didn't expect anything more to be perfectly honest
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I think Avery probably did do it but there's so much doubt that he should probably be let go.

The poor Dassey kid though, he's completely innocent. He's just too stupid.
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>>64354504
because women like cats
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>>64354241
i dont think 70iq people should be allowed to roam free in society unmanaged so jail is probably for the best
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>>64354628
He should at least be allowed to watch wrestling. If we locked up all 70IQ people who the fuck would be left to watch Wrestlemania?
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>>64354516
Thats because you are effort posting you utter fucking retard, you literally have nothing of value to say, so you shit post and refresh the threads so you can forget about your boring fucking life,
hHehehe- got him
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The lesson that this documentary teaches is that if Steve was a working, functioning member of the community this wouldn't have happened the way it did.
But instead, he prefer to lit cats on fire and run relatives off of the street. Guilty or not guilty, much of what's happened was due to the outcast image he presented.
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>>64354698
darn it you got me
well i better kill myself now
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Just because he was acquitted of the rape doesn't mean he didn't do it
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>>64354725

This post is like the most dangerous form of stupidity. You don't get to just play God with the justice system like that. Avery seems like an all-around unpleasant chap, but because of their desire to "punish" him for his image, a real rapist went free and continued raping, and there's probably a real murderer still out there right now.
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i just finished season 1 of this

it was shit. the dude is obviously guilty.
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I think Avery accidentally murdered her, tried his hardest to hide the evidence so his settlement wouldnt be effected. Police force hopped on the opportunity like heyenas and probably used unethical techniques and abused loopholes to ensure a conviction. He should've been retrialed but he still would've been ruled guilty.

Now this fucking documentary tries to push the classist angle and side with the Averys. You can tell the filmmakers are blatantly trying to stir up shit
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>>64352759
That and he and his detective were on the Avery property after their county sheriffs dept was told not to be and his lieutenant was the one who found the key 3 days into the searching of that tiny ass trailer. How in such a small space could forensics teams not trying to falsely convict this man have overlooked a key that supposedly proves he did the crime? It isn't like that trailer is a fucking mansion.

Also whatever happened to "anonymous will leak evidence proving police misconduct" as seen here : http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/making-a-murderer-anonymous-claims-to-have-evidence-that-netflix-documentary-s-subject-steven-avery-a6790546.html ?
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>>64355009
Of course. He is, after all, a mudslime.
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>>64355007
There are people out there who generally feel that it is more important to bring in a guilty party, than to have our constitutional rights universally protected

sheltered white kids, mostly.
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>>64351343
>Why would he do this when he knows they are watching him like a hawk and waiting for him to slip up?
He has a IQ of just 73....the man is basicly a potato, im amazed he can even drive a car
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>>64355039

Accidentally shot her in the head a few times?
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What does incosistense means?

cracks me up every time
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Who cares really? Hope these crackers die in prison. They weren't good people at all. You need to be a special kind of criminal to run someone off the road and threaten them with a gun. If he didn't kill someone then it was only a matter of time.
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One thing I didn't get was: If the county was to pay the 36 mil without insurance, where would the money come from? If the sheriff's department didn't have it, who would pay?
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>>64355351

Not the point. See

>>64355007
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>>64355351
Yeah, there is a reason everyone else in Manitowoc hated them
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>>64354725
He owned and operated a salvage yard?
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>>64352225
last 2 episodes aren't as good, but are still really good
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>>64355070
Also want to know more about whatever evidence other anons supposedly had
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kratz is such a fucking sleazy cunt, holy shit. Judge fox was the worst of them all. I think he made it the hardest on the averys
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>>64355735

unbelievable that the judge wouldn't let them get rid of that turbocunt lawyer Len. He was the biggest cunt of them all imo
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>>64355735
>yfw it was the same judge during his appeal
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>>64355350
inconstant*

You have the IQ of a Steven Avery.
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I've now watched the following:

>Making a Murderer
>Paradise Lost 1-3
>The Jinx
>The Staircase
>Murder on a Sunday Morning

Any more good documentaries like this?
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>>64356517
Serial, it's a podcast but it's pretty good,
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>>64356517
serial season one
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>>64356610
>>64356637
It was shit. Let me save you a long time: a muslim killed and failed to cover up killing his asian gf. He did it and had a dindu to help him.
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>>64356517
literally where im at in life pham
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>>64355735
Kratz's voice was absolutely bizarre, it didn't make sense coming out of him until it was revealed he was a pervert.
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>>64356737
Which one did you like the best?

Paradise Lost here
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>>64356517
>Paradise Lost 1-3

Watch the 4th one

>Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun-Times gave the film a perfect four star rating, saying: "Do we need a fourth film? Yes, I think we do. If you only see one of them, this is the one to choose, because it has the benefit of hindsight."
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>>64356517
Dear Zachary
The Cove
Blackfish
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>>64356966
>The Cove
>Blackfish

Cruelty to animals triggers me like nothing else in this world. Cant watch that. Downloading Dear Zachary though. Thanks
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>>64354692

I'm gonna sic /asp/ on you
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I honestly don't want him to have done it. I wanted the police to be exposed as murderers and liars. That may be true, but the evidence just says otherwise. The police obviously did plant evidence though. I honestly think Brendan may have done it himself.
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>>64358070
I think he did it. The police just felt that they didnt have enough evidence on him so they decided to plant some shit on him.
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>>64355611
It's a family business, he was not in direct control of any aspect of it.
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>>64358099
Why was there no record of violence in jail? A killer doesn't do 18 innocent years and not punch a single inmate. He may have done it sure, but was there really enough evidence that wasn't planted to prove that?
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dude avery is innocent lmao
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>>64353680
while i do agree with you that saying who cares about animals is edgy as fuck, saying hitler wasn't wrong isn't
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>>64353843
>veterans

fug you're right let me be sorry real quick for people who murdered innocent women and children because they have a different skincolor
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>>64353852
all psychopath killers and serial murderers started with first killing animals then slowly but surely committing larger crimes
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>>64354205
>>>/pol/

>>64354241
this
people with iq level below 75 should be allowed to rape and kill as they please

/tv/ in a nutshell.
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>>64355007
>continued raping

that's a stretch, he only licked her cunt for a bit
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why are these types of documentaries always about rednecks
>thin blue line
>the imposter
>making a murderer
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>>64354462
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/%22unless%20you%27re%20contributing%20to%20the%20thread%22/
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>>64355351
he did kill someone
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>>64359292
>you're right let me be sorry real quick for people who murdered innocent women and children because they have a different skincolor
To be fair, they didn't choose who they were murdering, thats the politicians. These people just murder because they are too dumb to get into a good college and wanted an easy well paying job
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>>64355735
i agree, he should just let them run people off the road and point guns at them. also cats should be allowed to burn but only if it's an avery doing it

also indecent exposure is fair game if your last name ends in avery. you're a funny dude.
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>>64358852
jesus christ no wonder the doc is so biased
is there anything women don't ruin
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>>64359627
Imagine how outraged liberals would be if the Avery family was black

But poor white people, in nice upper midwestern areas? who gives a shit about them
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>>64359589
they volunteered to murder them instead of going out and looking for any job that involves being a decent human being

so fuck em
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>>64359480

because they lead the most fucked up lives
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>>64359480
because they are based in amerikkka?
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>tfw she likes them big and black
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You in da court when this guy slaps your innocent ass, what do?
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>>64353619
the judge with 3 cats at home cares you fat fucking mexican

learn the law beanercleaner
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>>64359714
>But poor white people, in nice upper midwestern areas? who gives a shit about them
>nice

Anyway, the entire internet cares about them because of a documentary that was made in a biased fashion. the average person is retarded but the average internet user even more so.
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>>64359807
take the plea bargain and do 20 years
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>>64359752
Yeah, I'm just saying its probably not simply racism

But I also think the idea that committing a crime against someone because of their race/gender/orientation (hate crimes) is worse that committing that same crime against someone for any other reason
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dat blue ribbon tho
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>>64359818
Didn't you see all of those neat shots juxtaposing the Avery's massive trashy junk heap with the clean environs of the rest of the county?
The upper midwest is a pretty affluent area, so trashy people like the Averys really stand out to their neighbors
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>>64359807
he reminded me of the Bill Gates impersonator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJv8eaHS5E
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I still don't know if he did it or not but I feel the lack of evidence is pretty sketchy... one bullet but none of her blood? His blood in several spots in the car? I think he's too stupid to clean that up.
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So Terry Hobbs is guilty as fuck right? Just got up to date on the West Memphis 3.
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>>64352926
Nothing like what happened in this case.
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>>64354504

bugs aren't animals
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>>64353572
You are a humanist that cares more for animals than people.
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>>64360432
overrated as fuck

they showed no emotion whatsoever
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Teresa's brother seems shifty.
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>>64359896
that's because they are
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>>64360360
>get sentenced to death by lethal injection in 1993
>still alive by 2011 and get released

america is a joke
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>>64360636
him and her ex bf probably raped and killed her
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>>64354725
You are evil, I hope you arent a US citizen.
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I don't think he did it. He didn't get a fair trial, his nephew.
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>>64360636
I LOVE THE POLICE!
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>>64355039
Accidental murder. Cops plant evidence, but not enough to acquit. Millennial much?
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He did it.
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>>64360955
he didn't do it before tho
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>>64359480
because if it was done about black people no one would care, so they get white people that behave closest to blacks
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>>64361811
more people would care if they were blacks to be honest
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>>64360486

But it easily could have, there are a ton of trees in Wisconsin. The car could have overturned or she could have been thrown out. That's why it's a big deal to run someone off the road, I'm surprised he wasn't charged with attempted murder.
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>>64360613
Believe it or not, spazzing out like a lawyer in your courtroom dramas is not considered a good strategy in the real world.
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>>64351151
The point is, it doesn't matter in his case since all "evidence" was shady, the case was handled poorly and mistakes upon mistakes were committed by all involved.

They had no real case against him, that he and the poor kid went to jail is proof American are fucking retarded, go fix your fucking country first instead of trying to 'heal the world'. What a joke of a legal system.
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>>64359480
Because black guys did the crimes without any reasonable doubt, and normal white guys are cleared right away because they aren't stupid enough to get manipulated like this
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>>64362178

I was so disappointed when I was on jury duty and the lawyers were chilled out for the whole case. I was expecting some Hollywood.
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>>64362088
it was probably low speed
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>>64361661
Actually, he did.
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>>64362672
Brendan's post-conviction lawyer is better
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>>64360636
I was waiting for the documentary to accuse him the whole fucking time
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>>64359896
You're stupid. Every crime is a hate crime, idiot.
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>>64362088
"Run off the road" is a pretty loaded term.
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>>64362964
ha, apparently I forgot to finish my post. It meant to say "is ridiculous" at the end
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>>64363020

But that's exactly what he did to her.
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>>64362964
Every crime is not a hate crime. That's a stupid thing to say.
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>>64363155
Is murdering someone because they are chinese worse than murdering someone because you don't like their shirt?

Motivation does matter to in extent as murdering someone in defense of yourself or even revenge is quite a bit more understandable than for some arbitrary reason. But its utterly ridiculous to consider committing a crime against someone from a protected political class worse than committing the same crime against someone who is not in a politically protected class
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>>64363394
You're rambling because you're obsessed with proving that racism isn't a real thing, but it has nothing to do with "every crime is a hate crime" being a dumb statement. I'd like for you to explain how embezzlement or drunk driving are hate crimes.
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the most damning thing about the case to me was the recording of the cop calling in the plate of hallbachs car, when it wouldn't be found for many days. My idea is that hallbachs ex followed her, got her to stop her car, shot her in the head, put her in the back of her car drove it to the quarry and burned her body to remove evidence.

Cop finds the car, they suspect Avery but don't see how they can tie it to him, they take the burned remains near the car, the car keys are still in the ignition, they move the car to the averys lot at night, take blood from the evidence vial and put it in the car, put the bone fragments in the burn pit. put the key in his room put the bullet fragment in the garage. The fact that there's none of theresas blood anywhere but the car is suspicious.
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>>64363558
Racism is definitely a real thing, but murdering because of racism is not worse than murdering for any other illogical reason
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>>64363590
Ideology-based murder is terrorism, which most legal orders consider more severe than just murder. The reason this is so relates to the purpose of the law itself.
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>>64363756
>Ideology-based murder is terrorism
That seems like a little bit of a stretch, surely it is only terrorism if your intent is inciting fear in others like your target rather than to just get someone you don't like off the street
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>i seen da toes
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>>64352762

>owning underwear

normalfag pls go
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>>64356730
>had a dindu to help him

racist plz go
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>>64359714
>Imagine how outraged liberals would be if the Avery family was black
except this happens to blacks far more on average
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>>64365105
Every single time police do anything "negative" to a black guy its national news now and sparks protests
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>>64364810
But it's true, Tyrone.
>>64365206
That's how Jesse Jackson goes without paying his taxes. He's gotta get that racebaiting money somehow. >>64363580
I think the brother was somehow involved. There are so many holes in the prosecutions case and they should've stricken the retards testimony and let him go. He is too dumb to understand anything because he has a troglodytic IQ.
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>>64365206
This. All 11 cases of police abuse floated by the MSM are the sum total of all police abuse everywhere.

It is not an endemic problem and never will be.
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>>64365438
Why not just become black? You know how the system operates. You know how blacks have systemic advantages.
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>>64365601
Seeing how flimsy most of the cases that make the media are, its tough to believe there are all sorts of worse cases out there they are ignoring
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>>64365662
It would indeed be easier. They get into colleges and grad/law/med schools with lower GPAs and test scores, have it easier to get employed as they fill quota slots, and have the inherent advantage that they can play the race card if anything ever goes wrong in their lives. Other than the capacity to occasionally be called a nigger, there really is no drawback.
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>>64365662
It all comes down to culture, if you act as a normal part of middle class culture you will be successful in america. If you stick to terrible poor culture that shuns education and glorifies violence you will not. Now on top of this our political system has all sorts of benefits built in to non-straight white males. If you are a black women who gets a college degree you can pretty much get whether job you are remotely qualified for

You never see black people raised by culturally good families getting shot by cops (or criminals for that matter), just like no one ever trusts rednecks. I'd trust a random black lady over a white guy with a strong southern accent for sure.
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>>64355205
Muhammad Ali had an IQ of 78 but was composed and cerebral enough to become the greatest athlete that ever lived.
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Has anyone read Kiss the Girls. Baffles me what gets to be included as exhibits and what isn't.
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>>64365935
This just in: being a pro athlete does not require even moderate (let alone high) intelligence. See: lebron james, dennis rodman, that guy from the atlanta falcons that fought dogs, etc. why do you think they on average go bankrupt so quickly while making literally millions of dollars? Only the smart ones keep it.
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>>64365671
You don't have faith in police competence?
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Why are American cops so fucking horrible?

Must be terrible to live there
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>>64366084
Not that guy, but there is obvious corruption and evidence planting in the Avery case. The first case against him followed the good ole boy system where the sheriff put him away because the victim was married to a deputy while they had evidence that it wasn't him that the DA was aware of. Not all cops are corrupt, but corruption is a common problem in police forces the world over.
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>>64366122
If you are a middle or upper class white/asian person (or black person with good parents) you almost never have to worry about cops unless you compulsively drive more than 10mph over the speed limit. Pretty much the only thing cops do in middle and upper class neighborhoods is do traffic stops and find kids underaged drinking at night
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>>64366216
Don't forget the occasional edgy teenager that "ran away" or "attempted suicide" because rich mommy and daddy didn't give them enough attention. Happened to a half Asian half white girl in my neighborhood growing up. Doctor dad was never around and mom was having an affair.
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>>64351206
>they planted the evidence but he totes still did it :^)
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>>64366484
not that guy, but honestly, I think that he did it and they planted evidence
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>Avery’s DNA was found under [Teresa’s car’s] trunk. [Later, and in a separate correspondence, Kratz said this DNA evidence was found under the hood, suggesting that Kratz misspoke at one point in the interview.] It wasn’t blood. It was from his sweaty hands. Do the cops also have a vial of his sweat that they are carrying around? The evidence conclusively shows that Steven Avery’s hand was under the hood when he insists he never touched her car.

>Teresa’s phone, camera and [other contents of her purse] were found 20 feet from Avery's door, burned in his barrel...Two people saw him putting that stuff in there. This isn’t contested. It was all presented as evidence at the jury trial, and the documentary people don’t tell you that.

GUILTY
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>>64352127
>known cuckold and homosexual kratz alleges shit in email to another homosexualist cuckold
>must be true
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>>64366877
Why would he have been in the hood?

Also, the DNA test doesn't specify what part of the body the DNA is from
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>>64366877
>its from rebbit, it must be true!
The "eyewitness" is his nephew's retard confession, there's no other claimed eyewitness. Kratz is straight-up lying here

holy christ you're a retard
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>>64367143
to buy drugs
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>>64366896
>greentexts buzzwords which have no bearing
>must be logic
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>>64366620
>they planted the evidence but he totes still did it :^)
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>>64351151
we innocent
taresha brother is bad man who kill.
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>>64367257
>its a lebbitor tries to deflect episode
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Avery did it, Dassey helped him dispose of her, the cops are corrupt and planted extra evidence to ensure a conviction.

Go buy a fucking t shirt with his mugshot on it you dumb faggots.
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>>64367285
I mean there is no other real plausible candidate and he was the last person to see her, and his blood was there (before the EDTA test I was really convinced of him being framed, but hard to get past that one). It looks like police only planted evidence after they were pretty sure he did it, rather than completely framing him

I definitely think there is reasonable doubt though
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>>64367228
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>>64353680
>>64354205

giving labels to people or to entire arguments in disagreement your views is what people too intellectually lazy or dumb to come up with a decent counter argument do.
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Why do you hate a successful prosecutor that was just doing his job?
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>>64367523
i don't. he's based as fuck.
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>>64367371
>Branden was involved
>literally only evidence was his retard-confession that contradicts what little physical evidence exists
it's depressing how stupid my fellow 'muricans are
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>>64367427
>it's a Steven wipes away all his fingerprints but leaves easily viable blood stains episode
EDTA test wasn't conclusive, you stupid cuck
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if you say the cops planted evidence AND he's guilty of the murder, aren't you entertaining the fact the cops want to frame him anyway?

so then there would be reasonable doubt, no?
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>>64353852
>mispelling bombfire
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>>64367228
Severely underrated post.
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He's innocent
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>>64367709
>EDTA test wasn't conclusive, you stupid cuck
Sounded pretty conclusive to me, but it is plausible the government was just making shit up. I mean if you put EDTA in blood samples to preserve them, and there is no EDTA in the blood at the scene, it could not have come from the preserved vial. Its not like EDTA is a volatile compound, its not gonna evaporate or anything. and if it was just below the detection limit of the procedure that was some really fucking dishonest testimony by FBI mustache chemist
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>>64367774

It's bonfire you dolt
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>>64367870
Brendan spelled it bombfire in his statement.
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>mfw someone says this isn't reasonable doubt: the case
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>>64367957

Prove it.
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>>64367870

DOLT ALERT!!

found the dolt everybody
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