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>people arguing about what star wars movie is best
>implying a lot of the games aren't vastly superior in terms of story

Pic very related. Though to this day I don't understand why the selkath is at the front of the box when it's not even a character or relevant to the story.
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Thanks for the /v/eddit blog
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this has a better post ROTJ story line than that piece of shit I watched that everybody from reddit loves
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>>64350424
there was an alien that looked a lot like a Selkath in TFA. It was behind Rey in the line to trade scrap for portions. Not sure if it was meant to be one though
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>>64350424
My wife's kid loves the Star Wars so therefor I'm happy.
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>>64350424
Is Malak stronger than Vader?
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>>64350566

I don't think it was, anon. I remember paying a lot of attention, and almost all of the species were basically "new," but they were all more or less redesigns of the old ones. Only the fanservice alien characters were the same.
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>>64350595
I got my wife's son a 12 inch doll of Finn.
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>>64350609

I wouldn't ask him for a midichlorian count. He's insecure.

But I think it's fair to say that Revan and Nihilus are both stronger than Vader.
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>>64350663
:^)
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>>64350424
>EU
>story
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>>64351141

>he hasn't touched the EU

Keep enjoying your sub-par flicks m8.
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At least you posted Kotor 1 instead of that selfwanking sequel

Both are shit dude stop the eu is gay
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You seem to have posted the wrong game there OP.
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>>64351178
Better than JJ's schlock
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>>64350564

That annoying guy from apprentice almost ruined it. What was his name? Raj? He sucked. He was scrappy Doo tier. Other than the story was OK.
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>Rey: Shitty version of Jaina Solo
>Finn: Shitty version of Kyle Katarn's stormtrooper career
>Kanan: Shitty version of Kyle Katarn's design
>Hera: Shitty version of Jan Ors
>Ben Solo: Shitty version of Jacen Solo; Stole his name from Luke Skywalker's son
>Kylo Ren's Design: Shitty version of Darth Revan
>Knights of Ren: Shitty version of the Reborn
>Starkiller Base: Shitty Death Star/Suncrusher/Centerpoint Station combined with shitty imagery of the Star Forge
>Ezra: Shitty version of Aladdin with Force Powers
>Darth Bane that talked to Yoda: Shitty version of actual badass Darth Bane
>A-Wings are now much worse than X-Wings and were phased out
>B-Wing design now precedes the Battle of Yavin and was no longer made by Ackbar
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>>64351202
Gameplay was more fun, but the plot incredibly contrived. I liked the grey force stuff.
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>>64351202

KotOR II is a fine game but it would make a godawful movie. Maybe a good book. Especially if it's told in the first person. But KotOR I has the perfect, simple, movie story - and it's very Star Wars.

>>64351178

Fuck you, kid. Obsidian best company. I bet you like FO3 over NV as well.
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>>64351328

The work of a visionary and a true Star Wars fan.
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>>64351465

??? It's a thousand times better than 3. The story is actually decent.

I'm not saying it's god-tier or that it even touches the original two, but FO3 is a turd. It had like two fun quests and that was it.
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>>64351202

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Crq31hm0m8
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>>64351202
DUDE DARK AND GRITTY GREY MORALITY LMA
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>>64350424
>KOTOR
>"the real star wars"
KOTOR is cool in part because it isn't "real" Star Wars. It's a completely different look and take at Star Wars.

It also features a lot of people fighting with regular swords, and against people with lightsabers no less. Must have missed the scene where Han Solo pulled out a katana and went toe-to-toe with Darth Vader.
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>now THIS is star wars
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>>64350424
we can all agree handmaiden is superior to visas, yes?
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>>64352801

Those swords were modded in you cheater!
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Is KOTOR best to play on mouse+keyboard or controller?
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>>64352878
This is all in-game content.
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>>64352878
>so star wars
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>>64352963

I'd recommend ignoring the gameplay and going for the story. It's got some of the worst gameplay in the world.
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>>64353136
>born in 2002
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>>64353021


>implying this isn't the epitome of Star Wars
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It's nice to see an increase in KotOR threads - especially so on /tv/.

Been replaying the game myself these days. It still holds up nicely, but I noticed the dark side path has some annoying quest-related bugs.
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>>64352832
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>>64350566
There is a Selkath bounty hunter in The Clone Wars, so they are canon.
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>>64350564
I think you have it flipped, reddit.
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Bastilla is the ultimate tsundere of the wRPG genre.
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>>64351570
GOAT
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>>64350424
>main characters are worse Mary Sues than Rey

Prove me wrong /v/tard

>gain powers critical to plot
>enemies always miss on purpose and die too easily
>win every single fight, no moment of defeat

Thats right you cant, and thats why you're shitty ass vidya will never become worthy of being garbage that we'll be able to watch on the big screen.
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>>64353136
>he thinks combat = gameplay
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>>64353021
>katana staffs
What is this bullshit?
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>>64351202
Unfinished mess
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>>64353303

>the neutral planet

I hated that planet. Neutral AND a water level. The Selkath were so fucking dumb too:

>sith slag starts talking shit to you
>talk shit back
>HURR VIOLENCE IS UNACCEPTABLE ON THE NEUTRAL PLANET. 500 CREDIT FINE!!
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>>64353453
>he thinks being powerful = Mary Sue
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>>64351175
i agree the eu is best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVzc20Bm8Xo
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>>64353492
Mods, I'm guessing.

>>64353525
It's calm and nice, tho.
Best soundtrack, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IffTBJhrfHk
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>>64351202
They didn't even finish it before they released it.
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>>64353579
>katana staffs are mods
No, they're in the base game. You get them at the start of the game.
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>>64353629
Lucas Arts wanted a Christmas release.
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>>64353629
LucasArts' fault, not theirs.
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>>64350424
It may have been a good game but the 30 minutes or so I put into trying to get into it convinced me it's not Star Wars.
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>>64351328
>Rey
>Jaina

Jaina was incompetent and rose through the ranks, Rey is already OP from the beginning regardless of her past or not.

Literally a female Ben Skywalker.
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>>64353696
Yeah, I know, but that specific katan twin blade in that picture seemed... off, somehow.

I could be mistaken, of course. Never bothered with that class of weapons. Dual-wield or go home, as they say.
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>>64353187

Wat. I'm born in '83, you fucking imbecile. It's more like you must be born in 2002 if you think KotOR has good combat. It's a shitty console game with horrible combat, just like every other RPG past BG. Kill yourself.
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>>64353491

>implying this game isn't 40% combat, 40% talk, and 20% walking around. There's like 30 mins of puzzles, tops, and almost every fight is mandatory.
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>>64353837
>I'm born in '83,
Do you have a wife's son yet?
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>>64353824
It seems off because it's out-of-place in a Star Wars game, yet was put in both KOTORs, which were supposed to be Star Wars games.
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>>64353925

No. And I'm ashamed to say I'm not a wizard either.
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>>64353730
Fair, but it defeats any claim to be "best game".
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>>64353547
>redditlettermedia

why do people link this shit?
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>>64353453
>implying anyone wants this game to be converted to an inferior medium
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>>64354250

Because they're underage and have grown up on the shittiest stuff imaginable. They don't understand elegant games for a more civilized age.
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>>64352640
DUDE CLEAR CUT GOOD AND EVUL BUT YOU CAN FLIP FLOP BETWEEN THEM LMAO
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>>64353950
>everything has to be like the OT

this is 4,000 years before a new hope, champ, it's gonna be a little different.
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>>64353629
Sure, but it still doesn't discredit that it was a mess on release.
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>>64354482
>4,000 years before a new hope
>the technology is the exact same
>in fact, with the personal energy shields, it's actually more advanced
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dude GREY MORALITY lmao
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>>64354565

Maybe the shields were made obsolete by some sort of shield-jamming tech.
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>>64354565
>the technology is the exact same
>cites a piece of technology directly after that contradicts him

i mean, i could say muskets and ar-15's are basically the same thing, they're both use bullets, right?
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>>64354417
I could just link the video with ten minutes of contrived, pretentious expositional dialogue from the Jedi Temple scene in KOTOR II, if you prefer.

The EU is trash.
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>>64354765
The blasters, spaceships, and droids are the exact same. There is no noticeable, tangible difference between a droid in KOTOR and a droid in actual real Star Wars.
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>>64354790

>I could just link the video with ten minutes of contrived, pretentious expositional dialogue from the Jedi Temple scene in KOTOR II, if you prefer.

You mean one of the best scenes ever? Please do.
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>>64353354
she was a sith lord sex slave
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>>64354790
mad tfa fag is mad
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>>64354829
>Technology remains the exact same for 4,000 years
>Same fucking iconic planets from the movies "discovered" "forgotten" and "rediscovered" over and over again

KotORfags will defend this.
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I love this "dude lmao" meme. It's so perfect to discredit anything anyone says. The second game was loads of fun and it was interesting because it WASN'T Star Wars. It also has some of the most chuuni moments in the entire franchise, so it's a mixed bag of sorts. Still, its best moments and parts by far outshine any other Star Wars content.

It definitely needed to be somewhat more challenging for a game and if they wanted to go just for the story they should have made it shorter and more to the point and removed some dumb quests.
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>>64354829
>The blasters, spaceships, and droids are the exact same

citation needed

"There is no noticeable, tangible difference between a droid in KOTOR and a droid in actual real Star Wars"

i'll give you that
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>you will never have your own hk47

baka why live desu senpai
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>>64354940
Star Wars was dead after Ewoks were introduced. Keep spending money on those blatant corporate money grabs, tho.
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>>64354790
>I could just link the video with ten minutes of contrived, pretentious expositional dialogue from the Jedi Temple scene in KOTOR II, if you prefer.
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>>64355011
>same fucking iconic planets

name one besides tattooine and yavin
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>>64350424
huh, this is the first time i noticed the selkath
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>>64355140
Hoth, Dantooine, Alderaan. More?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK8ni6Gl3ws

Best Star Wars character? Best Star Wars character.
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>>64355196
dxun and onderon were comfy levels
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>>64355192
>hoth
>alderaan

is this fucking bait holy shit

dantooine is mentioned ONCE in ANH, hardly iconic
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>>64355192
Hoth and Alderaan isn't in either KOTOR game. Dantooine was only mentioned by name in ANH, never shown.
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>>64355192

Why would you even bother entering this thread and start talking shit when it's so obviously clear you barely know the movies, nevermind the EU?
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>>64355268
>dantooine is mentioned ONCE in ANH
And like everything else in the EU, it's hammered to death and filled to the brim with horrible fanfic-tier writing and concepts.
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>>64355069
>citation needed
Play the game.

This is like making a movie set a thousand years in the past and having modern cars instead of horses and buggies. It's just wrong, dude.
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>>64355294
Sorry, I forget that KotORfags like to pretend the MMO doesn't exist.
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>>64355245

Dantooine and Korriban remain my favorites. Dantooine has some of the most amazing music and visuals, and Korriban is just the most comical part of the game, ironically. I fucking love those Sith quests.

Truly comfy.

>tfw you use KotOR ambient to sleep every night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLUF9azU5cI
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>>64355294
>either KOTOR game
There's three KOTOR games. Both Hoth and Alderaan are in the third one.
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>>64355365
it's pretty clearly a different time period. i agree that they probably could have made it a BIT more primitive, but how far could they have gone before it was not even recognizable? the swords were a step in the right direction, they probably could've made the sith use them a lot more
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>>64355442

Except there aren't. Show me a Knights of the Old Republic III, jackass.
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>>64355403
Well we're not discussing the mmo now are we?
The mmo itself has very little to do with the KOTOR games too. Apart from Revan's character being completely destroyed and a few references of course.
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>>64355408
I wish they would release official Widescreen patch on steam like they did with KOTOR 2.
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>>64355403
TOR is not a KotOR game. Stop being a disingenuous little shit.
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>>64355245
>ywn become bros with canderous

He probably wouldn't like me anyway because I'm a pussy and hate fighting.
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>>64355348
it's like a magnitude 8 on the football field
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>>64355513
>>64355530
Top kek, get mad faggots.
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>>64355497
The Old Republic is KOTOR 3.
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>>64353991
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>>64355196
best SW charecter? yes

When they make the kotor2 movie / tv show
Should they get an elderly actress to play the role and then use the original voiceactress to dub over?
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>>64355648

Sure it is, bro, sure it is. By that logic I guess WoW is Warcraft 4?
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>>64355627
>get told
>y-you m-mad
>>64355648
literally wrong
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>>64355627
>lol umad
>2015+1
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>>64355743
Yes, WoW is Warcraft 4. It's a continuation of the story of Warcraft 3.

TOR is a continuation of the KOTOR story. It's the third in the series, so it's the third game.
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>>64355806

Timeline continuation =/= Series continuation

TOR is just a separate game that happens to use the same part of the EU, as WoW uses the same setting of WC1-3. That doesn't mean they're by any means part of the same series.

Timeline continuation =/= Series continuation.

Judging the way you do is fucking retarded, and blurs all barriers.
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>>64355806
>trying this hard to save face
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>>64355751
>>64355752
>"T-the MMO isn't a KotOR game! It doesn't have anything to do with KotOR!"
>Main characters from the first game have continued story arcs
>picks up the plot from the end of KotOR II
>Has decedents from the supporting characters as main characters
>Game mechanics and force abilities introduced in KotOR reused as primary class abilities
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>>64355806
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>2 hours
lynch mob when?
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>>64355648
>Jedi Padawan gets impregnated by a clone trooper
>canon

Fuck off EA
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>>64355895
but WoW is a direct series continuation though
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>>64355895
TOR is a continuation of the KOTOR story, though. It even wraps up the story with Revan, ending it definitively.

You can't argue that TOR isn't the third part of the KOTOR series when it is in every way.
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>>64355937
Why the fuck do I keep seeing these replies?
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>>64356040
Shitposting. Just ignore.
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>>64355648
>The Old Republic is KOTOR 3

No, that's The Old Republic
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>>64356060
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it.
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>>64356073
And The Old Republic is the third (and final) game in the series, hence "KOTOR 3."
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>>64355960

How is that even relevant? If they simply wrote a comic or a book that wrapped up the story, does that suddenly mean it's part of KotOR I and II? Are you fucking retarded?

This is a pointless discussion. We could spend all day arguing semantics, but the fact of the matter is, there is no game entitled KotOR III; whether or not the story continues in another game, or another comic, or a book, or whatever else in the EU, is completely irrelevant. There is NO KotOR III. When we say we are discussing KotOR we refer specifically to those two games. If we were doing some lore sitdown about the entire Old Republic era, it would be another matter. Any event that goes beyond the point where KotOR II ends is basically outside of the realm of discussion.
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>>64355933
>>Main characters from the first game have continued story arcs
>main characters
>characters
>s
Name two characters from KOTOR 1 and 2 who have their stories continued.
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>>64356040
first meme of 2016 my friend

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/64319058/#64319680
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>>64356040
>Why the fuck do I keep seeing these replies?

It's a new meme
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>>64355933
That doesn't make it a KotOR game. Unless there is a game out there called KotOR III, you're talking shit.
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>>64356140
Are you KotORfags seriously in this much denial? Revan. The Jedi Exile. HK-47.
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>>64356124
>there is no game entitled KOTOR 3
You're just being pedantic at this point.

It's like saying Link to the Past isn't "Zelda 3" and thus not a part of the series because it doesn't have "Zelda 3" in the title.
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Bastila gave me so much boners tbqh
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>>64356192

KotOR III. There is. And it's been CANCELLED. Which is what makes all his statements all the more fucking wrong. It's even on every wiki page about Star Wars there is. KotOR I - KotOR II - KotOR III (C A N C E L L E D)
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>>64356196
The Exile isn't the same character as in K2 so she doesn't count. HK-47 is just as butchered and barely similar to his character in Kotor.
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>>64356192
I guess I could have mentioned that the devs stated that the MMO was meant to serve as KotOR 3. But you're right, it doesn't literally have the name KotOR, 10/10 argument.
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>>64356259
>being in denial this much
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>>64356222

Except there was a KotOR 3 once, along with a plan for it, and it's all gone. It's not that it got renamed and transformed into the Old Republic, no, it's simply gone.

Every argument you have is non-nonsensical buffoonery.

>the same characters appear!!!
>it must be a part of the same series!!!

Using that argument makes NO SENSE. Just because a certain character from the universe appears in any series, be it games or books or comics, doesn't mean there aren't separate series. Yoda appearing at the end of Republic Commando doesn't suddenly make EP 5 the fucking CONTINUATION OF REPUBLIC COMMANDO.
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>>64356368
Of the games that have been released, TOR is the third KOTOR game. Counting games not released, TOR is the fourth KOTOR game.

Either way, it's a KOTOR game and part of the series.
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>>64356339
The Exile is literally just a normal Jedi in TOR, nothing special about her.
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>>64356294
>meant to serve

is meaningless. the only thing tying TOR to KotOR is that they take place in a similar timeline, and a few characters from those games show up. it's pretty clearly a distinct product.
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>>64350424
So how well is this game selling these days? I imagine no one would've bought it for it not being canon anymore.
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>>64356441

The exile is supposed to be unkillable.

She is a invincible nihilus. Nihilus let himself consume himself.
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>>64356415
i think we're getting baited, boys
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>>64356582
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic_(series)
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>>64356415

Part of the series, he says. On the basis of... what, exactly? Both taking place in the Old Republic era? The same era that has a ton of books by now and comics? Are those part of the series as well now? Is everything related to the Old Republic era suddenly KotOR? Or are we just going to pretend that an MMO with a completely different focus and different stories is somehow related to two games by the mere fact that a few characters make a brief appearance for 0,5% of the game?

I'm done with your sophistry. Now fuck off back to your TFA threads.
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>>64356639
On the basis that it concludes the story of Revan and KOTOR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_993gc1QHWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yo0n55hNx4
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>>64356599

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotor
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>>64356781
Thanks for the fun, but I'm going to go talk to people in other threads now.
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>>64356114
TOR is the star wars prequels of the old republic.
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>>64356873
ON other threads, you wetback piece of shit.
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TOR isn't Kotor 3, you spergs.TOR is supposed to be Kotor 3,4,5,6,7, but it's not explicitly a direct sequel story-wise to the first 2 games
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They are already borrowing a little from The Old Republic

For example Kylo Ren's design is very similar to Revan's.
The story with the First Order is almost copied from SWTOR.
>Empire got rekt
>Retreated to far reaches of space
>Gathered their strength, came back to take revenge on the Republic
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>>64357094
TOR is shit and not worthy of its IP
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>>64357658
Still better than TFA because it actually has some original content
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