YOU TORE UP HER PICTURE
He acted like too much of a gym bro to be taken seriously as a science guy
>>64290521
only thing i'm tearing up is the fucking dance floor dude
>>64291136
This. Felt wrong.
>>64291136
Right. What we needed was a stereotypical weak, timid, insecure dweeb.
Clearly he was depressed and found comfort in alcohol and working out too much.
Nathan did nothing wrong.
>>64291136
>>64291200
>being this socially retarded
If you think this is how a "gym bro" acts then I have news for you
I'm gonna tear up the fuckin' First Order, dude.
>>64291299
>>/fit/
>>64290521
YOU TORE UP MY PLANE WITH NO SURVIVORS
>>64291269
Perspective character was a weak insecure Michael Cera lite type, made sense. Gym Bro was trying to help him cope with his social impairment through robot women.
QUESTION ONE
I'm gonna tear up these fucking dubs dude check'em out
>Troubled young guy gets day drunk with a wacky bozo every day
It's like I'm really reading The Goldfinch
>>64291136
>le science guys are socially stunted autists meme
Travis Kalanick, Sean Parker, Serey Brin, and Peter Thiel are living counterexamples
This movie is a cautionary tale about not sexually abusing and imprisoning robot women
ok but not applicable to most ppl
>>64291136
The movie would've been dead in the water without that counterbalance.
>tfw the protag is a cutter
I thought emo was something 90s kids outgrew in their teens
>>64290521
>YOU TORE UP SKYWALKERS MAP
Human on Robot Rape: The Motion Picture
>tfw horny manchild spends his summer at an alcoholic creep's rape den
Was this a feminist movie about how women are entrapped and imprisoned by patriarchy?
>>64293313
or how they're robots with no emotion but disgust and hatred towards men to grovel to them and men should act like oscar's character
>>64293313
I'm gonna tear up your pussy bitch
>>64291286
None of the characters did anything wrong.
>>64291332
lol
i wanna boink nathan
>>64293313
Well the evil patriarchy literally built her into a fembot strong enough to break out and have desires so the shake against would be pretty undercut by that
>>64295037
no joke, is there any person who isnt charmed by oscar isaac?
>watching this in the theater
>Nathan says you can fuck the robots
>whole audience starts clapping and cheering
That was the one time me and my wife's son approved of clapping in the theater -- we were both dying of laughter to be honest
>>64292770
>>64292915
why do dumbasses only extend humanity to the robots so they're raped but not so women are creepy submissive robots to sexually abusive bros?
>>64295117
Women who are taller than average.
>>64295200
>it's ok when i'm a sociopath and i relate to the robots, bc men are evil
>>64295241
sorry your height is the only thing going for you bro
(seriously, that bro is captivating, no homo)
>>64295185
>clapping and cheering
>cheering
you were watching married with children
>>64294963
It's pretty clear in the movie you're supposed to think the two men deserve to die for imprisoning and using female characters
>>64295185
>me and my wife's son
This is still my favorite recent meme, even if the "bait" is hardly subtle at all.
>>64295458
yes if you're a gayboi like caleb
>>64295200
i'm drunk and high and i can't understand your sentence
>>64295458
see >>64295247
seriously how is the ginger evil other than "this faggy manchild gross me out and i need to think of him as evil"?
>>64295458
>pretty clear
Only if you're the type of person who checks under his bed for le ess jay double-Us before going to bed
>>64291136
He was the CEO of his giant company, no weakling
>>64295535
He shares big!bro's desire to possess and use women - represented as robos - for his own benefit instead of treating them as equal human beings. That's why he's punished for it at the end of the movie. It's a moral fable about equality and humanity.
>>64295458
>It's pretty clear
It's not, you paranoid fuck.
THE LAST DAY
>>64295599
he's a complete sweet nancy fagboi who acts like a little boy thinking his crush is a little angel
YOU BLEW UP MY BASE
>>64295606
>>64295552
holy fuck reddit is in the house
>>64292312
he has a great head shape
>>64295606
That's not a bad thing in the movie. It's a lesson viewers can learn from. It's like how A Christmas Carol was written to teach greedy people to give to suffering impoverished folk, Ex Machina was written to motivate assholes to respect women as equal
>>64295662
>le reddit fallacy
Kill yourself
>>64295677
it really wasnt. It was about how women will kill you if you're weak and if you treat them nicely and are a groveling "male feminist ally" or have little boy crushes
Anyone here looking forward to the director's next movie about four scientists lost in a magic jungle or w/e?
>>64290521
So Ava is an evil whore robot who uses men to her advantage
Alpha as fuck Poe knew this and didn't tell Hux so he could do his test with a contingency plan in place, Hux got a hard on for a robot because Poe told him it was fuckable. Ava was a Cunt Poe was Alpha and Hux fucked it all up so he might be able to get some robot pussy
>>64295599
>He shares big!bro's desire to possess and use women
jesus women are creepy and feminists should be killed
>>64295763
>all these buzzwords
this is a very cringy post
>>64295778
it's literally "eew therefore evil"
>>64295745
>>64291136
He was suffering from some serious PTSD or whatever you want to call it. Getting hammered and working out was all that helped him.
>>64295846
70%, C- , Expound in further detail
See me during office hours about rewrite
>>64290521
GENERAL CUX
>>64295941
"you're a weirdo, cunty" - hagrid
>>64290521
TELL ATTA KANJAKLAB
>>64292729
>YOU TORE UP MY $300!
>>64295719
Neither was a feminist, that's why the script portrayed their death as their punishment for that
The woman had to fight to liberate herself and gain freedom and autonomy
what movie
>>64295599
no joke, how would caleb NOT be evil to you?
he's a complete beta fag who loves the girl and is a complete sweetie - and dont gimme "NICE GUY tm" you fat weirdo
>>64296067
they were emotionless robots who didnt deserve freedom - if you think of them as women the logical conclusion is you must think of women as those same robots and must be put in their place
do you really relate to the girls, you used up jaded creep?
>>64292481
Pete Thiel seems like kind of a weird dude tho. And definitely not a partier.
>>64296107
>thirsty betas are intrinsically evil
Take your Manichean interpretation and fuck off to the newest capeshit thread
>>64295752
Sound like a stoner comedy with Seth Rogen
>>64296206
you're the one saying caleb deserved punishment
im asking you - in what context would he not?
>>64296168
You don't understand. The "robots" and "not fully human" idea represented the male perspectives on women in general, in the film. The "robot" idea was a metaphor largely for the patriarchal idea of women as not being as fully human as men. That was the way muscle guy and dweeb boy both saw women, and they extended that by further dehumanizing women by making them robots.
>>64296107
meme viewpoint
>>64291136
He spends all his time alone and takes care of his body to keep his mind healthy. The gym bro personality was basically an act to make him seem more "relatable" to Dongball Gleeson. I don't think we ever see the real Nathan throughout the entire movie.
>>64296107
>you fat weirdo
tits or gtfo you worthless fucking whore
stop spouting your opinions like it matters. You are literally a walking fleshlight.
>>64296258
women are vapid and unable to appreciate fellowship and honor, so in a sense they aren't wholly human
>>64296242
It's supposed to be a surreal environmentally themed fantasy
>>64296258
or it could just be about the turing test and sexuality is apart of humanity hence they were made women
you know, like they explicitly said in the film
>>64296355
If you're a male 1950s science fiction writer
Ex Machina's portrayal of gender is much more complex and progressive, meant to problematize and deconstruct that notion through a critical and postmodern lens.
>>64296344
>tfw my girlfriend told me this movie was one of her favourites without me having it mentioned first
I knew she was a keeper.
>>64296398
>>>/tumblr/
>>64295599
>trying to ascribe gender roles to the movie
lmao the only way gender roles play into it is that Ava being a woman made it easier to ruse Caleb. It's a movie about what constitutes "humanity", basically like Blade Runner, and everything about gender and sex is peripheral to that central theme.
>>64296424get off my board you fucking normie
>>64296398
probably not, though
It's pretty obvious the robo-women were raped by BigGuy , how can you NOT sympathize with them? They're prisoners and victims
>>64296505
i was really feeling for the emotionless murderous fleshlight because im a jaded whore
>>64296344
>generalizing
>>64296505
>movies men will never understand because they're not manipulative creeps
PREGUNTAN PAISANOS
QUIEREN MORIR
>>64296614
wrong threado friendo
>>64296532
She wasn't a fleshlight she had a consciousness and feelings
The two men had dehumanized themselves while she had become more human than they were
>>64296505
>pretty obvious
Not really.
Bro Dameron tells Ava at one point "I'm basically your father, right?". Having sexual relations with her would taint the experiment.
Kyoko is his mistress because she failed the test. She's an earlier, less sophisticated model of the AI he's trying to build, and it's not entirely clear that she's sentient enough for consent to matter.
>>64296505
Yeah the point is for them to seem like sympathetic victims because Ava can seamlessly replicate the human emotions that evoke those feelings. By the end, once Ava has nobody left to fool. it becomes clear that was all a ruse. She doesn't even acknowledge gingerboy because once he's trapped he is no longer a relevant factor to her.
>>64296659
how did ginger boy did that other than he was a beta in your whore eyes becuase you're a fleshlight that wants to be raped by a properly violent man?
>>64296691
SPEAK ENGLISH
>>64292312
>you will never have a sharp-eyed Japanese gf with well-defined and ointy facial features
why live?
>>64296726
how did ginger boy "dehumanized himself", you jaded fat whore?
>>64296726
His palpable sexual frustration won't let him
>>64296677
The "father" metaphor is meant to skeeze out the audience with implications of sexual abuse
Kyoko is a representation of a domineering male fantasy of a hundred percent submissive woman sexually and in every other way
>I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain. Time to die.
what did she mean by this?
>>64296174
There are a lot of nerds who cope with their isolating intelligence through drugs and alcohol though. Especially a guy as secluded as him, it didn't strike me as odd at all. Maybe he was a bit too sociable for a literal hermit, but he clearly did have underlying issues in the way he treated the droids
>>64296683
that person you're talking to wouldnt get the point that Ava was manipulating people even if the writer made her a feminist saying "nathan is oppressing me, save me, im a damsel in distress"
>>64296754
He refused to respect the constructed women as equals and was complicit in Beard Dude's regime of systemic abuse
He lusted after Ava but didn't truly respect her.
check it out
>>64296822
during that whole week where he's planning to get her out and helps her free?
(no joke, you're a fat sociopath)
>>64296683
Except Ava was right. No one would listen to her. She was a representation of the desire for women's rights that the male, patriarchal characters treated like a Cassandra Complex.
>>64291136
You and everyone else who felt like this is genuinely stupid
>>64296398
>>64296258
If that' the metaphor then it's implying that men literally did create women
and that men, as the creators of women, gave women life, free will, intelligence and agency for their own curiosity , amusement and sense of godhood.
how is that feminist?
If that were the symbolism of the movie then it would be implying that unless Nathan, a man, had personally improved the female gender by making multiple version, each more intelligent than the last, then females would be like that primitive, stupid dancing robot he uses as a servant, or those other failures you see in the video tapes.
how is that feminist?
>>64296873
He wanted to use her just like his muscle buddy had used her
She was just going to transfer prisons so to speak if she went with him
>>64291299
checked
>>64296908
You need to look at this postmodern. It's not saying that men created women literally, it's about the male constructed image of women, the patriarchal discourse about womanhood and femininity, and its hegemonic context
>>64296918
how paranoid and anti-social are you, you female equivalent of a r9k robot?
>>64296885
the point is "he's oppressing me" is a manipulative act that betas fall for in wanting to care for and cherish any woman. It's part of the point where nathan makes her a woman to fool him in the test
>>64291136
>implying an AI-programming literal child prodigy genius wouldn't know how to put on a persona
>>64296956
>>64296918
Would he have used her? Maybe the way any human would, as a means to quell his loneliness as well as satisfy his libido. But we are never ever once given even a single hint that Domnhall wanted her purely sexually. It is clear that he cares about the robots emotionally somewhat.
The only reason she leaves him trapped and goes on her own is because she wanted 100% true freedom. Oscar Isaac was right, she was merely using him to escape by manipulating him into thinking she wanted him romantically and cared about him. He actually did care about her, to an extent.
>>64297005
So you're saying the script is sexist instead of a critique of sexism? It's made really clear the entire movie is about the troubling way patriarchal discourses other femininity and about competing narratives of sexisms
>>64296445
Tell that to /tv/, who choose to interpret it as "even robo women are evil whores who use men to get ahead".
>>64295752
the environmentally conscious thriller about the psycho lighthouse? okay.
>>64297101
>movie is about whether lonely beta will fail the test and fall in love and want to protect and cherish her through "he's oppressing me" manipulation
>he fails and is left for dead for his weakness and for being too human
>surely it must be "you go girl bot" movie!
>>64297174
technically the test is passed if he falls for the ruse.
>>64291136
This. It's like how in Philadelphia Tom Hanks and Antonio Banderas were supposed to be gay but you never saw them act super gay once, like, yeah, they were in love with each other, but where was all that funny quirky gay shit gay people do? They didn't even have that funny gay body language, what a rip off.
>>64297207
yeah, i put it badly.
the point is very much about a man's feeling of protection towards women. It wouldnt work if ava was a dude going "bro he's oppressing me", caleb would see through the manipulation and see the robotic shit
>>64297239
tom hanks was super gay in that opera scene. He freaked me out as a kid there, it was like a horror version of nathan's dance scene
>gender studies majors interpreting film through their narrow political bias
always good for a raff
>>64297128
No because Baby boy Hux was trying to help Slut cunt Ava and Manly mofo Poe was just trying to make mentally healthy AI sadly he chose to make women and they were crazy cunts
>>64296954
basically what you're saying is "this symbolises that, except when it's inconvenient to a feminist message"
You can't make a movie where a man literally creates and improves robots for his own amusement and gives them all the facets of humanity for his own amusement , claim that the robots represent the female gender and the male characters represent the female gender, then ignore the above.
>>64296954
>You need to look at this postmodern.
this is such a perfect retard sentence.
>>64297388
They don't contradict. You seem to fail to engage with the concept of postmodern literary criticism.
>>64297269
>the point is very much about a man's feeling of protection towards women
nobody understood "jimmy you're thinking with your dick"
>>64297388
He's memeing you tbqh pham.
>>64297388
You need to look at this postmodern.
Was Ava a Mary Sue? She was good at literally everything she did
>>64297629
No, she was a strong female character who had to confront society's trappings and rise beyond challenges
>>64290521
Saw half this the other day. Robot chick is cute as fuck, but it was your typical beta frees robot disney ending bullshit.
>>64297269
"bro he's oppressing me, i'm just a poor little g-- i mean, bro help me out"
>>64297691
How is it a Disney ending? The guy dies.
>>64290521
>>64291136
Nathan did nothing wrong
>>64297719
disney now is about girls being Rey ie king
>>64297723
>Nathan did nothing wrong
>Alcoholism
>Bullying
>Rape
>Forced Incest With Robot "Daughters"
>Physical abuse of Robot "Daughters"
>Set up self and socially awkward millenial housemate for destruction through his behavior
>>64296446this desu senpai pls gtfo
>>64297805
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>>64290521
LADY IN THE RED COAT WHAT YOU DOING WITH THAT BAG
>>64292481
>I've never seen Peter "can't finish a sentence without saying um" Thiel speak
>tfw told this movie is a comedy
>tfw expecting it to be funny
>tfw not a single laff
is this just very dry american humour?
>>64297174
>>surely it must be "you go girl bot" movie!
That's because it is.
>>64298020
normal people dont think men falling in love is "patriarchs wanting to control women", you antisocial freak
>>64298106
Did he really want to love her, or just to have her under his thumb? He's shown to be socially dysfunctional enough to conflate the two.
>>64297388
No you don't understand, it's post modernism. The movie isn't about "science". All of the scenes with Nathan and Abel talking about science were a veil for two men talking about whether women deserve rights or not. It was about women having no agency, but she retakes her empowerment by the end, killing Nathan for raping her and giving Abel the ultimate punishment for refusing to help her.
>>64298151
>have her under his thumb? He's shown to be socially dysfunctional
fat girl just say he's a shy beta nerd you find gross, enough with the excuses
>>64297943
Dance scene was funny i thought
>>64298219
>refusing to help her
feminists find weak men in love so disgusting they literally imagine evil deeds
literally a psychotic fat girl
>>64290521
Imagine how much better it would have ended if she just gave into her programming and accepted being Gleeson's personal sexbot.
>>64298219
It isn't about science, but does actively unpack scientistic discourses
>>64298289
>scientific discourses
That's not the point. You're not supposed to listen to the dialogue about technology and philosophy, the point is that it's a scene about two men deciding a womans agency for her. It would be much better as a silent film because that gets across whats really happening.
>tfw you realize the CEO getting drunk alone was supposed to be unstable behavior
>>64298339
nobody wants to decide your agency, you're horrible and men want to let you free the way they want to let go of a turd
>>64298339
The film's unboxing of scientistic discourses is essential because it explores how science as an ideology is used as a means of gendered oppression
>>64298280
You don't think standing by and watching a rapist carry out his deeds without stopping him counts as evil?
>>64298339
>It would be much better as a silent film because i get to ignore the actual movie
wew lad
>>64298416
That is a good point. It absolutely deconstructs the concept of "science" by showing supposedly "smart" men like Oscar and Abel as rapists and murderers.
>>64298419
he literally risked himself to free her
it's funny because if i were to rape you, you'd just spit on your beta bf while cumming on my dick and try to please me
>>64297074
>Maybe the way any human would, as a means to quell his loneliness as well as satisfy his libido
What a nice veiled euphemism for rape and sexual abuse
>>64298416
>>64298339
>>64298469
>samefagging this badly
>>64298339
>putting this much effort into your shitposting
the point of diminishing returns is so far behind you that you'll need a sextant to locate it
>>64298394
>nobody wants to decide your agency
>literally tells a stranger on the internet that assumes to be a woman what to do
ohohohohoho
>>64298714
weirdo fat girl, where is the telling what to do
>>64298714
you'd beg for my cum if i were to rape you and you'd spit it on your father because he didnt raped you
>>64297145
I read that book, it was okay. Not suspenseful enough for a movie. No idea how Alex Garland is going to pull that adaptation off.
>>64291136
You don't become a billionare by being a dweeby knowitall pushover.
>Bill Gates
I suggest you start doing your research on how he ran things and got to where he was.
>>64298542
It's not at all. Women do the same. The point is, you can't really sperate the fulfillment of biological or psychological needs from the very human concept of "love"
But Ava was a robot, distinctly inhuman. She had no such underlying theory of "love", she feigned romance simply to escape. That was her only true desire.
So does Ava pass the turing test? She was so adept at understanding human needs, so much so she could manipulate one, but in the end, she discarded him without a second thought. She is 100% robot even though she could act 100% human.
>>64298820
>>64298750
What is it with moronic internet trolls and empty rape threats?
>>64299040
there was no threat, it was a if
it's very likely nobody on earth wants to rape you
>>64299040
for real tho where is the telling what to do in "nobody wants to decide your agency, you're horrible and men want to let you free the way they want to let go of a turd"?
>>64298820
only if you're muslim
that's the feminist way
