>$154 million budget
>up against Star Trek Beyond
>late in the summer after Independence Day, Warcraft, TMNT, Captain America and X-Men
Are they going to make that money back, /tv/?
>>64279939
>154 million
How? Explain this shit to me
>154 million dollar budget
fucking really? women can't do anything right
why the fug is the budget that high
>>64280048
100 mil was probably Bill Murray
It's not going to make 40 million back.
>>64279991
Should have put more men on the production team
>>64279939
These are all capeshit/ superhero movies, what the FUCK is this movies excuse?
Seems like they got hold of a special effects team.
Sony Movies are a fucking shit-show. What moron could greenlight that kind of budget for this nonsense?
>>64279939
There's also a new SW movie to compete with
>>64279939
If you don't watch this then you are sexist and racist. You should pay double just to support strong beautiful women in film.
>>64280275
They dont realise the sjw market is actually only a handful of tumblrinas.
To make a profit it's going to have to make 308 million. No fucking way. Just no. I can't wait for it to bomb.
I'm not interested in a Ghostbusters reboot male or female cast.
>>64279986
ghost cgi, use your brain next time
>>64280462
according to the email leaks, they use youtube and other comment sections to judge what to do
>>64279939
Ive already booked warcraft for 4 separate viewings at imax so no
>>64280731
They better look like the fucking greatest cgi things of the decade then, a ghostbusters movie shouldn't cost that much
>>64280782
Holy shit, this better not be true. There is no way anyone can be that stupid.
>>64279939
>$154 million budget
For a comedy? That's fucking crazy.
>>64279986
>How? Explain this shit to me
Every single major film costs 150 million dollars now.
Remember when Total Recall was one of the most expensive films made ever at 50-60 million dollars? Today that's 90-108 million dollars.
I have no clue what they even spend this shit on. How was Hollywood able to make blockbusters for comparitively little in the 70's, 80's and 90's, even when adjusted for inflation compared to now?
>>64280782
wew
And here I am, studying Bayesian Stat and Game Theory to help with MY OWN decision making. Truly I live among plebs.
>>64279939
Who did they think was going to want to see this anyways? Fans of the original sure as hell aren't going to watch it.
nostalgia fans, lovers of the originals and people going to see it to see how bad it is will make that money back, plus the parents having to chaperone their kids too.
>>64281786
Presumably women, children and those nostalgic for the original.
But the nostalgic argument doesn't hold as the film is too different.
It could work if it had a more reasonable budget. 150 mil is in the same league as cape shit. Do they really think this will have as much appeal as Iron Man or even Thor?
>>64280782
If that was true, they'd 180° their fucking movie as for now and would have keep going with the male version of GB.
>>64279939
>Chris Hemsworth is the ghostbusters receptionist
>LOL BECAUSE WE'RE SWITCHING GENDERS FROM THE ORIGINAL GET IT?
And yet Hemsworth could take all four in a fight at once, yes including the silverback gorilla, and be a more effective ghostbuster than all of them combined
fuck this feminist pandering garbage
It's times like this I almost wish I weren't fundamentally opposed to giving shit sjw clickbait sites like Buzzfeed and CBR traffic because I'm genuinely curious as to what excuses they can come up with for this movie's spectacular failure.
>>64281693
CGI must be pretty expensive.
So is this going to be another force awakens where people make a dozen shitpost threads at a time predicting it will bomb, then it ends up doing well?
This movie looks fucking terrible but so does Star Trek Beyond.
>>64280143
you need to check your privilege and stop mansplaining you shitlord
Feminism is huge these days so they'll make it back no problem
>>64281693
>muh female pay gap!
>ghostbusters is still expensive
explain that feminists
>>64282146
Loud minority. And feminists will support films but wont' necessarily actually go out and see them.
>>64282084
Man, it's Star Wars. The movie could just be two hours of George Lucas jacking off and people would still wait six hours in line to see it.
>154 Million Dollars
Holy shit, does anyone outside of the US even want to see this movie? How the heck is it going to make it's money back?
>Ghostbusters '84
>Budget of 30 Million
>Grossed 229 million
Ghostbusters '16
>Budget 150 million
>Grosses ???
Why is Hollywood so dumb? Even if this movie makes the same amount the first one did that isn't exceptional returns. That's a "financial disappointment"
>>64282084
Well, what do you think?
Mad Max got 150M and made 376M. Think Ghostbusters will beat that?
>>64279939
Don't underestimate the power of shilling. When the movie is close to coming out, it'll get worse. Chris Hardwhick does it every chance he gets on his show. Wait till other hosts start.
What about the critical reception? Some guy working on the trailer said it was a bad gb movie but a normal feig one.
>>64282242
>>Grossed 229 million
In today's dollars:
>$523.10
I just can't see this movie making that much, really.
Remember according to the low IQ TFA fans logic on this board this movie is going to be good
>>64279939
why was this movie even made
>>64279939
>$154 million
The Goosebumps movie had a budget of 50 million and I bet the monster effects will be on the same level.
>>64280177
>Iron man 1
>higher budget than 2
I call bullshit on this
>$154 million budget
Would've been 33% more with an all men cast.
>The movie gets released
>It's not as SJW as tumblrinas wanted, gets shit reviews
>/tv/ praises the movie
screencap this
>>64282633
Lack of Terrance Howard and jeff bridges?
>>64282869
and the movie would have been 333% better
fat and ugly men can still be funny
fat and ugly women are just fat and ugly
>>64280083
Bill Murray does it for free becuse Sony lawyer army dug out some dirt on him to make him accept this piece of shits script treatment.
>>64283225
No Bill Murray obviously wants to kill the IP so people will stop asking him to do more Ghostbusters and very well may with this pile of shit reboot.
theoretically, how would /tv/ react if it was actually a good movie that understands why the original film worked without ripping it off wholesale, with likable characters that /tv/ winds up rooting for, and it flops?
>>64282925
The gorilla is already confirmed to be a subway worker and only on the team because she saw the first ghost.
I really thought they would at least change the black character to be a bit more together with the rest of the team, it´s 2015 after all.
>>64283263
The leaked e-mails implied the lawyer army though. I think his contract said he would have the option to decline 3 treatments but has to accept the fourth offer no matter what or something.
>>64283276
As if, this is the same kind of rehash like Episode 7, Jurassic World and Avengers 2. Bigger = "Better" and they will keep doing it until they run this into the ground as well.
>>64282242
it'll gross 100 mil max
This is one of those movies where its sheer quality is going to determine how well it does at the box office. If it's actually a good, entertaining movie, it could be the hit of the summer. If it's mediocre or worse, it will probably flop.
Who the fuck actually gives a shit about Ghostbusters in a meaningful way these days? It's not like Star Wars. There hasn't been any Ghostbusters shit in more than 20 years, not a movie or a cartoon or anything.
>>64283417
>As if, this is the same kind of rehash like Episode 7
inevitably, of course. but that wasn't the question. how would /tv/ react if the movie was actually good and then they got their wish of it flopping?
It will do better than Star Trek
>>64283651
The new Trek really does look awful.
The Feig & Wiig duo made 288M with Bridesmaids. I guess the financing logic is that they'll get the Bridesmaids demographic back out in tandem with a capeshit-size ad campaign.
They're already getting a daily deluge of free, positive press from the #CONTENT web - so, who knows, maybe it will work.
>>64283585
They already know it's not going to be good which is why it's in the late summer when everybody has already blown their load on the good movies released from May-July but maybe some people will still go see it just to get out of the summer sun. The new Fantastic Four movie was put in the same spot or the same reasons and still bombed
>>64279939
>Star Trek Beyond
>>late in the summer after Independence Day, Warcraft, TMNT
Do you think people care about those?
>>64279939
Can't wait for the articles blaming this failing on sexism instead if being a dumb idea
>>64283585
>Who the fuck actually gives a shit about Ghostbusters in a meaningful way these days? It's not like Star Wars. There hasn't been any Ghostbusters shit in more than 20 years, not a movie or a cartoon or anything.
Extreme Ghostbusters was the last show, and that was 1997.
>>64284671
And Ghostbusters Extreme was also SJW garbage.
>we have to have a handicapable Ghostbuster
>and they have to be a rainbow of diversity
>don't forget to make one a girl
Holy fuck that show was a cynical cash grab
>>64281693
Serious question, does that $150 mil include advertising budget? That could explain it.
>>64285001
No. Production costs are just to make the product.
>>64279939
I really hope this flops now
you know China and Japan are the 2nd and 3rd marktets for american movies right? well you cant count those 2 out of the equation since they dont want to pay to see old ugly strong womyn in action films.
Sony better focus its marketing on burger/yurop
>>64285196
What the fuck are they paying for then? Cgi isn't that expensive.
My guess is that it's just producers giving themselves high salaries
>>64280782
God no. NO! There's no going back from this kind of stupidity. It's bad enough a movie's success is based almost solely of the first couple weeks it's out. I swear the people running the film industry don't know what the fuck they're doing anymore.
>>64282084
Star Wars Star Wars. Every Ghost Busters fan wants this dead.
>>64286051
Unfortunately, everybody will pay a fucking ticket to see how bad it is.
>>64286051
That's a good point. The only people I've seen excited for this movie are people who don't actually care about Ghostbusters that much. These days, no matter the media, if it's big enough it's about telling the fans to fuck of by trying to appeal to casuals as much as possible. Granted, it makes sense. That's where the money is. It's just a shame that potential profits and artistic vision have to be at war with each other.
>>64285893
Well duh. That's why every movie these days has to be 2h30m long and follows the exact same story beats taken from a book on screenwriting.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FbdJ2jP.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>64284886
Don't talk about my proto-waifu like that!
>>64286446
>and we need a goth chick, that's what the kids are into in these the mid 90s aren't they? it'll go perfectly with our grunge cover of the Ghostbusters theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpCUB8IjzM
>>64284886
I honestly think it was SJW well handed. Kylie wasn't a badass but she could handle herself while having another kind of proton pack because of its heavy weight.
>>64286774
That show was a travesty of cynical executive mandated focus group calculated garbage
>>64286928
So is literally every licensed childrens cartoon ever
>>64286972
Yeah but only some of them miss the mark so spectacularly as Extreme Ghostbusters. It's in a league with the Mighty Ducks cartoon where they're anthropromorphic Ducks from Hockey themed Dimension who battle the forces of evil or Loonatics Unleashed where they took the Looney Tunes characters and gave them super powers, a space ship and new "hip" names like Buzz Bunny
>>64281550
the most successful people in the world would have you rolling your eyes so hard at their stupidity that if a stray eyelash were to affix itself to the outside of your eyeball you'd take off like a helicopter.
Fuck, if I had a goddamn nickel for every time i saw a major business do something like "Major Saving's" in an ad, I could retire right now at age 25.
>>64280782
I was in a private firm once. The firm was commissioned by Sony to conduct research on what movie market wants. Instead of us doing actual research where we ask a significant amount of total movie market. Which would be time consuming to converting them to numerical data. Sony instead given us proxy data collected from comments from various sources. 30% of it were from Youtube comments section s of Videos concerning movies and if I remember correctly 15% from popular tumblr posts?(i'm not sure) that talk about movies. The rest were websites that posts arcticles about movies.
There was not information that came from /tv/ unfortunately.
So its pretty obvious how they came to this kind of movie based on the data given to us.
>>64287121
well thanks for reminding me this existed
down dips the faith in humanity bar that little bit lower
>>64279939
>over 100 million
Le Murray quirky man needs to be paid
>>64281863
It's not a movie for kids though.
>>64287265
Fuck data mining
It will make its money back. The issue is that women will STILL MAKE LESS than the male-dominated summersphere.
Fucking disgusting.
/tv/ is always wrong
you have to really be absorbed and delusional in the 4chan retard hivemind to not predict that this movie will do well
it's not about your personal feelings you fucklords, its about real life. it's during the summertime and people are actually normal and have friends unlike you. this movie will break even easily, and expect a gross in the 300-350 mil range
>>64280731
the big and the black needs also a lot cg for the audience not tho throw up when they see them
>>64288573
>expect a gross in the 300-350 mil range
>>64283598
>female fat feminist fucking "comedians"
One of these does not belong. And this movie is doomed to suck
How can a comedy even cost that much
>>64289124
Lorne Michaels
I want to fuck the blonde one.
>>64279939
come one you are shitting me. Those are not really the actors of ghostbusters right?
>>64289246
ever heard of ladder theory? basically you want to fuck her only because she's the least disgusting choice.
>>64281713
Nobody cares, I promise.
>>64289272
It's a feminist movement.
Basically a movie based off the subconscious and conscious hatred of white male success.
>>64289352
Holy shit, you made me realize that this fucking movie is like mood slime: the more it gets thrashed with bad comments the more feminists feel powerful.
>>64289352
i thought the exact same. they took the ugliest woman they would find and throw "muh diversity" in it
As somebody who grew up with the cartoons (Ghost Busters, Ghost Busters Extreme) this looks like an fucking joke
>>64288573
>a gross in the 300-350 mil range
kek
>>64279939
Ghostbusters:
>Budget $30 million
>Box office $295.2 million
GBII:
>Budget $37 million
>Box office $215.4 million
GirlBusters:
>Budget $154 million
>Box Office ???????
JUST
U
S
T
>>64289352
I would watch it if it had sexy feminine female leads not a bunch of dykes
>>64286697
was still better then this shit
>On the financial front, Rothman already has managed to tighten the budget on Paul Feig's all-female Ghostbusters, planned for July 2016, without any apparent bloodshed (despite earlier friction with Feig when the director made The Heat at Fox). The Ghostbusters price tag when greenlit by Pascal was a hefty $169 million, with rich deals for talent, including $14 million for Melissa McCarthy and north of $10 million for Feig. Rothman couldn't do anything about those fees, but sources say Feig made tweaks to the script to reduce the cost to $154 million — just a few million above Rothman's target of $150 million.
>$14 million for Melissa McCarthy
Food budget no doubt.
>>64279939
this looks like a parody you can find on youtube
>>64285306
Then why does Hollywood keep shoehorning in blacks for muh diversity, when Africa is still in the stone age and blacks in first world countries are just going to sneak in/steal the bluray/download it?
>>64279939
It doesn't matter when a film comes out all that matters is if it is interesting enough for people to want to go and see it.
>>64289538
What could they have changed to scrape $15 million from the budget? Is that really worth it so late in the game?
>>64283856
TMNT looks hype my mane with Bebop and Rocksteady, I didn't like the first but want to see this one
>>64282242
Maybe Hollywood needs some better Rules of Acquisition
>>64289493
You're a fucking idiot
>>64288573
How? Do millennials care about ghostbusters? I really don't think so. And the older fans must be put off that it's a whole new cast of literal nobodies.
>>64289601
Winston was In the original film exactly for that reason. They wanted an "everyman" character who wasn't overly educated so when things are explained in simple terms to him or he is in turn relaying things to others it then also explains things to people in the audience.
>>64289925
Except that Winston was a cool black man, not a fucking sassy bitch.
>>64279986
Paul Feig is a jew.
>>64279991
Paul Feig and Amy Pascal.
>>64289847
The eternal conundrum of Hollywood. They are so desperate to ensure a profit that they will take any pre-existing source material for adaptation but in that same desperation they homogenize it into something that no longer resembles the source material meaning its original fan base won't like it and gambling on the larger lowest common denominator movie goers will fill their place which they usually don't. So in the end no one ends up liking it.
>>64289639
Maybe cut down on screentime of actual ghosts on screen to a handful of scenes and hope that the cast can keep the audience engaged through dialogue and jokes.
>>64281693
Don't 10 seconds of good CGI cost like a million dollars or something? Or was it some other figure like that?
>>64282003
>>64282003
Honestly Chris Hemsworth might be the only audience draw this has.
People STILL went to see the pile of shit that was Thor 2 and Snow White and the Huntsman did really, really well and has a big sequel starring him coming.
Seems like for some reason he's the kind of actor that puts asses in seats.
>>64289971
well blame Hollywood for not writing any black characters since the 80s who aren't shucking, jiving, stereotypes who constantly say shit like " whooo, now dat's what I'm talkin bout" etc *cough cough*
>>64288573
Are you for real? 200m would be success for a comedy and that will not be enough to pay for budget + advertising.
>Spy - 240m
>21 Jump Street - 200m
>22 Jump Street - 330m
>Pitch Perfect 2 - 290m
but you really can not compare new reboot with sequels of popular bellowed movies.
>>64290013
quoted for truth. it looks like a youtube parody
>>64283276
They'll love it because it being actually good and being a flop (contrarian hivemind) would cancel out the all women cast.
>>64282084
Yes, basically.
>>64279939
If All Female Ghostbusters is Bridesmaids or Pitch Perfect with Ghosts it'll fail, if it's more like Spy or any other action film with a female leads it'll do well for itself.
It'll make the money back easy from women as girlpower will be into overdrive by then and there really isn't a major movie after lady dollars this summer other than Alice in Wonderland 2.
Men will accept the film if the SFX and action is on point and the female humor isn't overbearing. but a 50/50 split in audience or better won't happen.
>>64282188
Yup. The people bitching about the sequels being shit still saw it 4 times in theaters and bought the boxsets.
>>64289847
For what it's worth, I was born in 1992, and kids I went to school with had generally at least seen the original and liked it. Whether they care now a decade later, I have no idea.
>>64287121
Mighty Ducks wasn't terrible. It was low on the anthropomorphic action animal spectrum, but wasn't as bad a licensed property as the Wizard of Oz or Stargate cartoons.
>>64284886
>And Ghost Busters Extreme was SJ-
Stopped reading right there. If you can't tell the difference between a strong female and a SJW Mary Sue then don't comment on anything involved SJW until you learn the difference mate.
>>64291012
It wasn't SJW because of the woman you fucktard, it was SJW because of the handi-capable Ghostbuster.
>>64291462
And don't think Tumblr hasn't applauded them for that with even stupider character fan designs meant to be all inclusive.
Can you stop spouting this SJW meme? It is cynical target group thinking, not ideological choices. They know that women are not interested in Ghostbusters and this is just a trick to lure them to the theathers.
>>64292028
It's not a meme in this case. In the 90s it was called being PC or "Politically Correct" and was a big issue then.
>>64280048
>fug
because you're a faggot memer
>>64291574
Wait, are her crutches part of the proton pack? Are they the... the "barrels" that the beams come from? Isn't that super impractical?
>$154 million
I bet half of that was for Melissa's feedbag.
>>64292028
>trick to lure women into theatres
Actualy it's more like Hollywood cronyism, Feig wanted a vehicle for his buddies to all get big fat easy paychecks and so decided to add a gimmick to a beloved property Hollywood had given him the keys to
>>64291462
That guy was kinda cool though because he was a huge cocky asshole. Also there's one episode where he can't get down a flight of stairs and they play it for laughs.
>>64291574
haha what the fuck man
>>64292145
>Isn't that super impractical
Yes, one might posit that it's incredibly fucking stupid
>>64290222
Actually, Hemsworth can't really lead a movie by himself either. Thor 2 had Hiddleston, Snow White and the Huntsman had Charlize Theron.
In the Heart of the Sea bombed hard.
>>64279939
>the gorilla from SNL who only plays one character is in it
I actually wanted to watch this until this moment. Dropped.
>>64280177
It's probably trying to go for the same "action comedy" capeshit movies do. All the pics they release they are trying to look "cool" and "badass", it will probably have lots of action.
>>64279986
> 30 million to each of the four female stars to right perceived past pay injustices
> 12 million for on-set catering
> 1 million for prescription anti-depressants and diet pills
> approx 1 million for remaining crew, set design, and special effects
>movie flops
>tons of articles from buzzfeed, gawker, etc about how moviegoing audiences are sexist for not wanting to see fat black woman ghostbusters
>>64279939
can't we just have 4 femEgons?
>>64282349
Critics will probably love it because "muh strong woman", that's all that matters of course.
>>64279939
No. I wouldn't see this if someone was paying for me. Looks like an extended episode of Mike and Molly. Pure Aids
>>64293408
that way can't maximize your customer demographic for maximized potential profits
>>64289493
That's exactly why they got the ugliest women they could find, they don't want no straight white man enjoying this movie.
It's a female cast because Hollywood has no 4 good male actors that fit the role.
im kind of digging the blonde
am i alone?
>>64293715
ladder theory!
>>64293715
No, she's the only one who looks decent
>>64293770
no she doesn't it's ladder theory
>>64293748
>>64293785
sexplain ladder theory
>>64279939
Probably. The fact faggots like you keep talking about it 24/7 is proof it's going to get plenty of attention.
>>64293770
i get a cyberpunk vibe from here look
Do you think they realize this movie is going to flop?
>>64279939
Holy shit, this looks really really really bad
>>64294012
If you read the sony e-mail leaks you realize these people are delusional and have no idea what they are doing. So, no.
>>64293858
basically a woman's attractiveness to you or me is largely determined by whom we're comparing them in relation to, essentially arranged on a system of rungs one above the other like a ladder. Since she's in this movie with a gorilla, a whale and a hag when you look at pics of the four of them your brain is like "yeah she's not bad, in fact she's kinda hot actually" because she's just the least unattractive so your brain knows who go for if the situation arises or the continuation of the species is on the line. However if she were in a movie with like any other Hollywood actresses else you wouldn't look twice at her.
>Star Trek Beyond
Dude, even normies were unimpressed by that trailer. Itll probably make back its production budget but thats it
>Warcraft
Same thing. No one cared. Itll probably tank.
>TMNT
id love to see this flop but it wont. Itll do okay but still be absolute garbage
>Independence Day
The only real contender that isnt capeshit. The 20somethings and maybe even the 30somethings will definitely flock to the theaters in droves.
>Cap and Xmen
Both will make bank, Cap will be good but Xmen will probably be just as well received as DOFP
If anything, Ghostbusters will get something in the ballpark of 65-85% RT, and maybe make back its budget and then some.
>>64288573
I'm inclined to agree to a point, but this movie already does look pretty bad. I'll hold any real judgment for when there's a trailer obviously.
Why can't movies just be movies
Why did they turn movies into propaganda
>>64292431
>Implying she doesn't use them to fly over ghosts and blast them
Wow fuck you dude
>>64293641
>we do what men do but with a vagina
>yay us!
>>64295043
dark times bro
>>64295046
>implying she can use them to fly at all
did you ever see a proton pack push anyone into the air in the movies?
>>64285366
Good cgi is expensive.
>>64281693
Marketing and CGI I guess.
Practical effects were cheap as chips back in the day. Could make shit out of clay and old socks and make it look good.
Good example is the blood of the Predator, just KY jelly and glowstick liquid. Would cost like $5 for several takes worth.
I wonder how much CGI predator blood would cost?
You people underestimate just how many fat women there are out there that will spend money on this movie.
>>64279939
I thought it was an all female cast, so what is luke cage doing at the top there
> shitty Ghostbusters reboot
> up against shitty Star Trek reboot's second sequel
I should just go back in time and murder my twelve year old self. Save him this suffering,
>>64289981
>Paul Feig and Amy Pascal.
See. This is what real feminism is about.
True equality.
Both men and women can be horrible at making movies and just ruin beloved franchises.
>>64284671
Even though far left jornalists may bitch and wine the studios only really care about numbers
>>64291574
>fan designs
Uh. Those weren't fan designs. The original designs were for more women on the team, but the producers wanted more male characters because they were afraid boys wouldn't watch.
Good thing they changed it. Everyone knows having female characters for boys to watch is totally gay.
>>64293641
> feminism is now just a cheap marketing gimmick for a shitty reboot by an idiotic movie studio close to bankrupting itself
This should be something anyone with a real interest in feminism would be offended by.
This is just more feminism and outrage for profit like the shit Anita pulls with her fake gaming channel bullshit.
>>64297903
>Even though far left jornalists may bitch and wine the studios only really care about numbers
...and if they can get money by pretending their shitty reboot is some feminist statement, then they will put up that fake estrogen smokescreen to rake in bills.
Isn't it great when these greedy sleezebags can get dumb crazy leftists to fund their capitalist scam?
>>64292690
Maybe that's because no one gives a shit about a big budget true story about Herman Melville and Moby Dick
>>64281693
>How was Hollywood able to make blockbusters for comparitively little in the 70's, 80's and 90's, even when adjusted for inflation compared to now?
It's almost like a lot of new technology was created towards the end of the 90's. Like before then, CGI on a large scale really wasn't a thing and now movies are incorporating it more and more.
Are you fucking retarded?
Just look at how long end-credits are then compared to now, and that will answer your question. You cannot be so stupid as to think there haven't been massive changes through each decade of movie making?
