What's the difference between a Dark side force user and a Sith?
>>64263255
Sith deals in absolutes, dark jedis do not.
What jedi has ever used the dark side without becoming a sith or dark lord. There is no difference. Once you start to use the dark side....you're a sith or a sith apprentice.
>>64263285
Dark jedi*
>>64263255
nothing
>>64263291
>>64263315
So there's no difference? Some people make it sound like they're different and we shouldn't conflate hem.
>>64263255
dark or light side of the force are all one in the same. it's how the Jedi uses it that makes the difference.
Sith is a religion that uses the dark side. Not everyone who uses the dark side is a Sith, and in fact it's been explicitly stated that Kylo Ren is not a Sith.
>>64263255
If the Dark Jedi are Christians, the Sith are Catholics.
Sith deal in absolutes and are weak to the high ground.
Dark side force users just shoot up schools: See Anakin 'Youngling killer' Skyshitter aka 'good friend' and Ben Ren aka 'Snoke's apprentice'
where the any siths who weren't evil in the EU?
>>64263323
*them
Sith started as a race, have a set of ideals opposite to the jedi. Dark side force user is just someone using the force not aligned to jedi ideals
>>64263331
>not a sith
>just a pawn of a sith lord
>>64263342
Darth Icky
>>64263285
Tell that to kanjiklub
>>64263331
calling a tomato a house doesnt make it a house
what good jedi has ever used the dark side for good?? does the "dark side"technically have other advantages or different skills or is it just how you use the force ?
>>64263291
this is incorrect
sith are an actual order like the jedi, with lore, teaching, practices, rituals etc
every jedi who falls to the dark side or dark side user is not a sith
>>64263373
A rat can't walk in 2 legs.
>>64263357
That remains to be seen. All indications are that the Sith are finished. Even if Snoke is who we suspect he is, he doesn't seem to be adhering to Dith dogma anymore.
>>64263339
Jedi are like Catholic Monks/Priests.
>>64263425
fuck off mickey
The moment someone starts using the force while angry they're technically a dark side force user, since they're using the dark side. Even if they use it exclusively it doesn't make them a Sith though.
The Sith are a specific religion with their own code, history, and techniques, just like the Jedi.
Who do we suspect snoke is?
>>64263255
the sith are part of the sith order
the dark side of the force is how you choose to draw power from the force
>>64263432
if snoke is plagueis he is a dark lord of the sith with a full darth title and everything
he wanted to get rid of the rule of two anyway and restructure the sith order like it was before darth bane but who knows if disney is going to use that
>>64263504
quit this meme already, snoke was originally suppose to be female.
>>64263331
THIS.
I fucking hate the idea of Siths. All the narratives Siths vs. Jedies are lame.
I want only Dark Side as a corruption of the Force.
>>64263255
A Sith is an anti-jedi. dark side users are just posers.
The only real Sith is a Sith, a red skinned nigger overflowing with the force in his pure blood.
The rest are just subsith fanboys who learnt everything they know from watching remnants of childrens television shows from a dead empire.
>>64263414
This is incorrect.
Sith is just anyone who uses the dark side of the force
>>64263339
Jedi = Catholicism and Sith = Protestants, Protestants being the edge lords that break away from good.
>>64263291
Literally KYLO REN
>>64263414
not anymore :^)
>>64263576
Nope, the Sith are a particular group with their own rules and hierarchy. A person can use the dark side of the Force without joining them, and hence not be one of them.
>>64263504
Was count Dukuu still a Jedi after he left? No... Force users can change their dogma and adhere to new ones of their choosing.
>>64263589
This is correct
>>64263576
This is incorrect
Dark side users are Inherently evil/bad/naughty/angry/yucky but few of them were actually Sith or part of the Sith religion
>>64263414
Take your legends to the trash pls
>>64263576
You're retarded. There have been Jedi who turned to the dark side forever. It's a very easy thing to happen, hence why the Jedi are so dogmatic, but they thought The Sith had been gone for a long fucking time. Because the Sith were a specific order of dark side users in direct opposition to the Jedi.
>>64263620
was dooku following any jedi principles? no.
snoke seems to doing a bunch of sith stuff. ruling an empire, training an apprentice. saying "he doesn't seem to be following sith dogma" doesn't make any sense, we barely seem him do anything other than sit on a chair and yell at people.
>>64263616
>>64263639
the sith being an actual order is still canon you mongoloids
>>64263412
Mace Dindu supposedly, that's been scrapped tho I think.
>>64263616
>>64263639
That shit's from the prequels you retard. I mean, Darth fucking Bane is still canon because Disney kept the Clone Wars TV show canon and he outright appears in it as a force ghost.
>>64263729
>Darth fucking Bane is still canon
Doesn't that mean KOTOR is canon? Since his philosophy can't exist without Darth Revan being a thing.
>>64263770
why in the fuck cant it exist without revan
>>64263729
>Darth fucking Bane is still canon
He's now a myth nothing more
>>64263255
Okay here's a decent despite possibly cringey example
someone too anarchistic to believe in the emprie but still dark oriented would probably become a dark side force user, but becomign a Sith would be in contrast to their ideals
Whereas Sith have teaching, rules, lore, and goals
A Dark Jedi just fucking does things, for their own reasons.
Sith willingly become slaves, hoping to become the Master someday
All that fucking matter is what the original writers and Lucas had planned not all this video game tv show crap. Only the original shit from the original writers.
>>64263770
possible but no one knows for sure
TFA guidebook does mention the scourge of malachor (and thus the mandalorian wars) and how kylo copied an ancient sith lightsaber design from that time
the most likely case is that they are just taking bits and pieces like they said
>>64263637
This is incorrect.
Anyone who uses the dark side automatically becomes a sith.
TFA refers to the Sith like a forgotten order. Doesn't mean ever bad jedi is a sith.
All Sith are dark force users, but not all dark force users are Sith. Dark force users are generally just force sensitive or former Jedi that fell to the dark side. They utilize the power of the dark side, but do not generally have training in it and its mostly instinctual. An example would be a fighter that's learned to fight from watching videos as opposed to a professional boxer trained by heavyweight champions. Some of these dark side force users have received training from Sith (such as the Inquisitors in Star Wars Rebels), but only enough to be effective at their jobs. They never receive enough training to be considered a remote threat to actual Sith.
Sith are vastly more powerful as they've undergone extensive training in the dark side and utilize the dark side in an extremely effective manner.
In Star Wars Clone Wars and Rebels (two official Disney canon series) only show 4 Sith.
Darth Maul
Count Dooku
Palpatine
Darth Vader
Asajj Ventress is not considered a true sith, but rather an extremely powerful dark side force user that was extensively trained in the dark side. She actually represents a good example of why Sith don't extensively train dark side users outside the hiearchy of two (they get too powerful and become threats).
Savage Opress was not a true sith as he was not named so by the master of the Sith but rather trained as an apprentice to the former apprentice (Darth Maul) of Palpatine. As Palpatine was the only true master of the Sith, only he could dictate who were official Sith. Those on the list above were all his apprentices.
In the series, Palpatine actually notices the existence of Sith outside of the rule of two (Palpatine and Dooku) in the form of Darth Maul and Savage Oppress. To enforce the rule of two, he goes to deal with them personally.
>>64263656
Yes, they were Jedi but as soon as they used the dark side, they became Sith. Like Count Dooki and Darth Vader
>>64263818
Revan is literally where Bane's ides came from.
>>64263826
Show is canon, he's literally in the show as a character.
>>64263903
The fight is considered a complete curb stomp by Palpatine who is far superior to Darth Maul and Savage combined in terms of mastery of the dark side and lightsaber skill. Palpatine toys with them both and laughs the entire time; this is a good representation of a fraction of his power and why he was able to kill 3 out of the 4 jedi sent to arrest him in seconds. Mace Windu is the only jedi shown to have ever defeat Palpatine and he is considered one of the greatest swordmasters ever produced by the Jedi Order. Mace Windu is also the only person to have ever mastered Vaapad which is arguably the most powerful lightsaber form that could ever be learned by a Jedi. On top of this, his skill with the force was only superseded by Yoda in the Jedi Order.
Count Dooku was an extremely skilled Sith and swordsman and few Jedi could ever stand against him. It took Obi-Wan and Skywalker (with Skywalker starting his descent into the dark side) to defeat him; both of them extremely accomplished soldiers and Jedi swordsmen. Obi-Wan was considered a master of Soresu (Form 3) and the greatest of that form in the Jedi Order. It was considered the most defensive form of Lightsaber combat and one of the primary reasons why he was able to stand his ground against Skywalker, who was a master of Djem So (Form 5). It took terrain and Skywalker's hubris to finally lose to Obi-Wan.
Dooku also partially lost due to the nature of Makashi (Form 2) which is a very elegant, precision based, fencer style of lightsaber combat. While common during the age when Jedi openly fought Sith, largely fell into decline as Jedi never fought Sith. The style's precision and finesse was not able to overcome the raw power and force of Skywalker's Djem So; Skywalker is also much younger than Dooku and is physically stronger than the elderly man.
>>64263923
Another good example is shown in Rebels. Two of the main characters are about padawan and youngling level in terms of Jedi skill and the padawan never finished his Jedi training. He can stand up against the dark side Inquisitors that are present in the series but he has a difficult time. These Inquisitors are dark side force users that have some training by real Sith (Darth Vader and Palpatine), but only enough to do their job. When they are faced up against a real Jedi in the form of Ahsoka Tano, they are easily beaten.
An example of a real Sith in Rebels is Vader fighting the main characters. Whereas Kanan can stand his ground against Inquisitors, he is curbstomped by Vader (BECAUSE HE IS VADER).
>>64263342
There was this one guy that was used as an example to Jacen Solo about how not all Sith were evil, forget his name
The dark side is its own entity. The Sith are a special order that use the dark side for their own purpose.
>>64263921
>Revan is literally where Bane's ides came from.
they just make it so Bane came up with it all by himself. How hard is that
>>64264098
Damnit we just want Revan to be canon
>>64264138
rakata prime and taris exist in TFA and the scourge of malachor and the mandalorian wars are mentioned in canon supplementary material
they are obviously using some of the KOTOR lore in the new canon fir whatever reason
I mean is this thread for real
Sith is just a title, an order
Of fucking course no one's a Sith cause nobody can be a Sith anymore. The lineage was broken. You can only become a Sith if another Sith says so, and they were extinguished.
I disagree with >>64263903, though, and I think there's no limitation to what non-Sith dark side force users can accomplish
"Nah, you can't be this skilled with a lightsaber, you need to be a Sith for that" wat
Analon was a dark jedi but sheevs influence turned him into a sith
>>64264272
Anakin, i meant anakin
Jedi = Jews
Dark Jedi = Christians
Sith = Muslims
>>64263912
Count Dooku and Vader were literally both trained by the Dark Lord of the Sith. There had been plenty of dark jedi in the time the Sith were gone. The Sith were still considered gone. This isn't debatable, it's outright stated in movies and tv shows that are still canon. The Sith are an order. Those not part of that order are not Sith.
>>64264272
>Analon
>>64264059
*were
The Sith are no more, my friend
>>64264255
the sith studied the dark side and learned how use it over thousands of years just like the jedi
no self-trained dark side user should be able to outmatch a trained sith just like no self-trained jedi would be able to beat a trained jedi knight or master
>>64263676
He doesn't really yell. Very calm and measured. But the stuff I refer to is the extended dialogue in the novel.
>>64264300
Jedi = Catholicism
Dark Jedi = Orthodoxy
Sith = Protestantism
>>64264300
Jedi - reddit
Dark Jedi - cuckold posters on /tv/
Sith - /pol/
>>64264300
Then what are the Light Sith? Atheists? Buddhists?
>>64264300
I wish Muslims were so rare that they only appear in Extended Universe and were largely regarded as a myth by average people. They are more like equal now to Christians which sucks.
They used to call them Dark Jedi
It's like how in most of the Star Wars games you'd get Dark Jedi like Jerec who have their own goals and merely use the Dark side for its power.
>>64264352
like what
elaborate
>>64264255
Theoretically they can, but they're severely disadvantaged.
Sheev is the inheritor of thousands of years of Sith lore, philosophy, knowledge of the Force, and every piece of preserved lightsaber combat stretching back to Darth Bane and beyond. He has the entirety of the Sith Order's knowledge since he is the Dark Lord.
Some shitty apprentice can be trained but good luck reaching anywhere near Sheev's level without knowing what he knows.
>>64264300
Jedi = Capitalist
Dark Jedi = Socialist
Sith = Communist
>>64264300
Jedi = Christians
Dark Jedi = Atheists
Sith = Jews
Sand People = Muslims
>>64264300
>Jedi = Jews
Nice try jidf
>>64264461
>Jedi
>good
Get a load of this pleb.
>>64264255
>Of fucking course no one's a Sith cause nobody can be a Sith anymore. The lineage was broken. You can only become a Sith if another Sith says so, and they were extinguished.
Well, if there are no other sith to disaprove it...
Actually there will always be some fucking force ghost of a sith who will want to use you for something. Getting some training and a title at that point should be easier than ever.
>>64264482
this pretty much
the sith have been "extinguished" in the EU at least 6 times
some pissed off sith ghost usually just seduces a powerful jedi knight or padawan and goes "yooo lmao here all the sith secrets. get to blowing jedi shit up"
>>64264477
Jedi may be a shit, but thirst for power, subversiveness and treachery are not the ways of the Jedi you deceitful kike.
>>64263291
Mace Windu. His saber style (which he originated) is based on using dark side emotions (anger, fear, arrogance) in a controlled manner to create a super aggressive fighting style.
>>64264331
> like the Jedi
????
There were hundreds of Jedi and literally TWO Sith at *any* given time.
Sith were powerful because they thirsted for power.
Plagueis could live forever, yet he didn't teach that to Palpatine. Sith didn't trust even themselves with knowledge.
I don't have to be a crimelord to be a criminal.
I also don't have to be a crimelord to beat another crimelord at a given skill.
>>64264379
There's some dialogue about appreciating how Ren is made of both light and darkness.
>>64264555
>subversiveness and treachery are not the ways of the Jedi
>he doesnt know whats happening in Jedi Woman's Club
Seriously put 20 women together for some time and just observe.
>>64263291
In the old EU dark jedi, post Sith advent, always end up looking up Sith lore and taking on the mantle of being Sith even if the order died out in between wars.
How it works in Disney canon I have no clue.
>>64264657
Jedi are a sausage fest.
>>64263285
When Obi Wan said only Sith de in absolutes, didnt that mean he was also a Sith?
>>64264705
Thats why Jedi women have Woman's Club silly
Guys, Wookiepedia exists for a reason. Two simple concepts to understand.
>Sith
>Dark Jedi
>>64264579
sith always held back stuff from their apprentices lest they grow too powerful too quickly but they still taught them a lot
way more than whatever a self-trained user could figure out on their own
the sith also leave behind knowledge in the form of holocrons that they leave for people powerful enough to access them. the knowledge gets passed down eventually, the sith have been around long before bane and his rule of two. they are as old as the jedi order.
furthermore, anakin, a force prodigy with official training got BTFO by dooku because he wasn't ready. a self-trained user would get wrecked that isn't a natural prodigy would get wrecked even harder. this is a general thing.
becoming proficient with the force is a skill that needs to be learned and it isn't as simple as just practicing basic things over and over. it has a mystical element as well where secret knowledge has to be revealed by a master.
>>64264364
>Light Sith
literally an oxymoron so I dunno maybe a jewish feminist
>>64264461
>>64264657
>le tricky jew trying to slander a good christian order
>>64264725
Obi Wan lied. About a lot of things.
>>64263589
yes
YES
AND THE RAKATA ARE THE JEWS
>>64264886
He was a good friend.
>>64263923
A lot of what you said comes from the novel Revenge of the Sith which as far as I know is considered Legends so it may not be canon anymore.
>>64264886
From a certain point of view he was telling the truth
>>64264770
I think our disagreement comes down to this:
I think that even if a force-user acquires Sith knowledge, it won't make him a Sith. You cannot self proclaim yourself a Sith. There were many examples of this: Maul, Dooku, savage opress, etc
You seem to think the opposite
Now, if that was true, it would actually be impossible to ever defeat the Sith, unless you somehow wiped all evidence/memory of them ever existing.
I think that would make the Sith the personification of the Dark side, and I don't agree with that, I think the Sith are a facet of the Dark side but don't represent its entirety
Is there any canon Sith that just decided to stop using the dark side but not become a jedi?
>>64263255
Ideology and culture.
The dark side could care less how you use, many "good" characters in the EU have used the dark side.
>>64263255
>What's the difference between a Dark side force user and a Sith?
The sith and the jedi are religious orders. They have tenets and doctrines, and if you follow them, you are one, but if you don't, you aren't, even if you use the force.
>>64263291
A Sith isn't some sort of representative of the Dark Side...it's just a name.
Kylo Ren isn't a Sith.
>>64263923
>It took terrain to finally lose to Obi-Wan
underrated kek
The Sith are one particular cult of Dark Side force users, basically anti-Jedi. Also, there used to be an empire ruled by the cult.
>>64263342
in SWTOR there is one Sith girl who is super friendly eve to Jedi characters.
Also Darth Marr who is perfectly reasonable for a Darth.
Now bear with me, as much of this will be from the DREADED EU.
As I see it those who could be called actual Sith were Dark Side users that came from the very first Sith Lords that came to Korriban after their exile. From Ajunta Pall and his fellows on to Naga Sadow, Exar Kun, Revan and Malak, Nihilus, Traya and Sion, Malgus and the Sith Emperor and Darth Ruin, Darth Bane, Plagueis, Sidious, Vader, Lumiya, Caedus and Krayt all came from a long, long dynasty that could be traced back to the very beginning. In the EU Krayt is technically the last Sith Lord in the timeline but if you look back he's the heir to what the Sith are at the time. Maybe his mode of operation is different form Naga Sadow or Exar Kun but his philosophy is generally the same.
Dark Jedi on the other hand are just fallen Jedi that don't have a claim in the Sith legacy and act on their own impulses and desires. Often Dark Jedi were lured by promises of power and such from real Sith, but it was typically just to use them to fight the Jedi and Republic.
You can become a renegade Dark Jedi easily, but to become a true Sith you have to actually seek out the Sith in whatever form they take at that time and join or your claim to being one is false.
its basically this.
you have the Dark Side of the Force (like a religion i.e Christianity) and out of it there are groups that practice it like The Sith and Dark Jedi/Force users, Knights of Ren (i.e Roman Catholics, Protestantism ,Orthodox)
and for Light Side of the Force you have Jedi and whatever EU bullshit they wrote
>>64263255
Dark Side users use the Dark Side, Sith use the Dark Side and follow the Sith religion.
>>64263255
What's the difference between Al Qaeda and ISIS?
The Sith is a belief.
Desann, Jerec, Tavion = Dark Jedi
Sidious, Vader, Sion, Nihilus = Sith
>>64263291
Uhm, Luke? How do you think he beat Vader?
>>64265752
Daily reminder that Ajunta Pall did nothing wrong.
>>64263255
A Sith has no fear.
>>64265955
>a group of people wages war on your order
>slaughters a bunch of your people, but you defeat them
>instead of killing or imprisoning them, you send them out of Republic space
>where you can't control them or even see what they're doing
>they make an organization that goes on to terrorize the entire galaxy for 10,000 years
Why do people like the Jedi again?
Sith are trained
they have rules
>>64266083
They're retarded. Go read about who could arguably be called the first Dark Lord named Xendor. If I recall correctly he and his followers wanted to study the dark side but the Jedi said no. So they left and the Jedi followed later and waged war on them.
The Jedi in the movies are shit and there are hints of them being pretty hypocritical but in the EU they go full retard most of the time.
>>64263360
he was a good friend
>>64263589
This makes sense too, since protestant preachers are allowed to be all sorts of degenerate things, like women, married, and gay
>>64266150
They are super hypocritical but I'm not sure Lucas actually intented it. He was apparently max butthurt at Obisidian for making the Jedi look weak and foolish in KOTOR2.
>>64266192
Good. Jedi fanboys BTFO.
>>64266192
>implying Lucas cares about how the sith appear
>>64266364
m8 there's a reason why kotor3 was never made. Avellone asked LucasArts to make it but was told to fuck off without an explanation.
>>64266150
>>64266192
The problem is the Jedi preach kindness and mercy, but are also stern and judgemental.
It's really the perfect combo to make people think 'wait, fuck these guys' and then start genocides.
The EU has Grey Jedi
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grey_Jedi
>>64266426
Because Lucas was butthurt that they added some complexity to his "good guy vs bad guy" concept of the Force. A shame Kreia will never show up in anything else, as she's one of my all time favorite characters.
>>64263531
still might be
>hologram
What did Vader learn after he went to the dark side? He seemed like he was worse at everything than he was when he was Anakin, and he even got a huge speed downgrade to go with it
>>64263291
>What jedi has ever used the dark side without becoming a sith or dark lord.
Luke Skywalker, Mace Windu, the Jedi Exile from KOTOR II...
>>64267223
>What did Vader learn after he went to the dark side?
As far as we know from the movies? Only how to block blaster bolts with is bare hands and choke people literally hundreds of millions of miles away from him without lifting a finger.
>He seemed like he was worse at everything than he was when he was Anakin, and he even got a huge speed downgrade to go with it
That's because he got his remaining limbs chopped off and then nearly burned to death.
>>64267329
*with his bare hands
>not sith because doesn't follow ancient sith laws
>uses sith powers and fighting abilities
pants on head retarded if anyone thinks sith and dark users are not the same.
The more dark side you become the more fucked up your face gets.
Drak side is an analogue to drugs.
>>64267385
>I use the same weapons and gear as the US Military, but don't follow their laws or rules
>this makes me a soldier of the US
>>64267385
So Daesh is US military now given they have US funding and receive US army equipment?
>>64263255
It's like asking "what's the difference between a Force user and a Jedi?" The Jedi and the Sith are specific groups of Force users, who learn and use the Force in specific ways. Each has their own set of codes that they follow, and there's rules governing members of either group.
>>64266426
>implying bankruptcy isnt reason enough
>implying Lucas gives a shit about vidya
Kyle Katarn uses force lightning, and he used the force with hate as well. He's still a jedi though. I'm also pretty sure that Luke used some form of lightning in the EU as well.
Sith is a stupid term of the rejected EU and the shitty non-canon prequels. The dark side is the evil force in this movies. Simply as that
>>64267697
>non-canon prequels
top cuck
>>64267697
the term Sith was mentioned in the early manuscripts of ANH but just never used iirc
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightsaber_combat/Legends#Seven_Forms_of_the_Jedi_Order
>>64263291
Only a Sith Deals in Absolutes...
Jedis are those people who use a more humane approach of the force, utilizing only half of it, Dark Side users basically use everything the force can offer
>>64269074
>mfw the lightsaber styles are literally hack n slash now
>>64266516
F A N F I C T I O N
>>64269461
absolute travesty
This is the old lore story:
The Sith began as a species born on the outer rim world of Korriban. Over the years they built a small empire after being one of the few species to successfully resist the Rakata during the years of the Infinite Empire. Their priestly caste employed the dark side in rituals and considered it a kind of magic but little more.
Around 7,000 years before the events of ANH, the Jedi suffered a schism as dark side users began to leave and attack the order. The first schism, around 25,000 years before ANH was put down with no survivors but the second was more brutal. The Dark Jedi had mastered techniques around manipulation of life itself, creating an army of darkside abominations including 'living dead', mutants, spectres, a veritable fucking monster mash. The war lasted 100 years and was called the hundred years darkness. The Jedi won and banished the surviving darksiders to uncharted space, hoping they would reform.
Instead they found Korriban and with their superior knowledge of the force, became the first of the Dark Lords of the Sith. Over thousands of years the Sith species gradually went extinct and its culture was kept alive only through the order that bore their name.
tl;dr Sith are Dark Jedi, Dark Jedi are not necessarily Sith.
a dark side user in star wars is a sith, period.
if you want to bring up books, literally go kill yourself. disney made them obsolete - they're not canon, they're fanfiction written by morons.
Dark Jedi are assholes in the process of falling to the dark side
Sith basically dived right in and have yellow eyes and shit to prove it
>>64263340
They're good at spinning though
>>64270531
They're absolutely canon, this distinction was made by Lucas himself and is shown in quite a few New-EU works.
>>64263291
>What jedi has ever used the dark side without becoming a sith or dark lord.
Bariss Offee and Pong Krell come immediately to mind. Krell aspired to the Sith, but was not one. Bariss seemed to have no intention of joining the Sith at all.
>>64263848
Don't forget Rakata prime.
>>64265752
was exar-kun a weeaboo?
So Dark Jedi are users of the dark side of the Force for their own purposes but the Sith use the dark side for the sole purpose of destroying the Jedi, their mortal enemy?
PALPATINE: No. Do not ask the Force. Not this question. Use logic instead, Anakin. Don't feel the answer. Think it! You already know all you need to know. The discipline with which Jedi are trained almost from birth, never to feel too much emotion. The speed with which they fall after they slip even once. The power they gain after their fall. Their similarity of goals, speech, the same black hooded cloak worn by every Sith Lord. All because -
ANAKIN (whispers): There is no Light Side of the Force.
PALPATINE takes another step toward ANAKIN, almost touching the lightsaber's beam.
PALPATINE: What the galaxy calls a Jedi is just a Dark Side user who has been trained to deny themselves, not to feel strong emotions... to ignore the whisperings of the power they invoke. And make no mistake, the most senior Jedi know this. That is why the Jedi Council has resisted every attempt to spread knowledge of the Force more widely. Why the Force cannot be used by day laborers to load a shuttlecraft, why we do not see Force healers in hospitals. Instead there is a tiny Order that kidnaps every naturally awakening Force user as soon as they are old enough to have a Midichlorian count. And then... why then, the Jedi Order forbids you to breed. It has nothing to do with avoiding passion. The Jedi could sustain their numbers using uterine replicators... if any of the important people thought that having more Jedi was a good thing. Already the number of Jedi is a hundredth part of what it was a millennium earlier. In time, it is hoped by all those who are in the know, the Galaxy will have solved the... problem, of the Force.
>>64265077
What point of view? Sort of top down?
>>64263291
Luke? That was the whole fucking point of the 3rd movie you tard. He was turning dark towards the end.
>>64263255
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>>64263323
>spotted the milennials that just started watching star wars after le big bang theory told them it was cool
i hate you all
>>64267399
dubs confirm.
The Sith is an order of Dark Jedi.
>>64263291
Mace Windu. It's in his backstory.
>>64267329
>That's because he got his remaining limbs chopped off and then nearly burned to death.
More like because we're talking about the OT. If Lucas was able to and wanted to make fights like he did the prequels when the OT was being done Vader would have been bullshit hax, just probably less flashy and dumb than Anakin.
>>64272780
this is b8
>>64267697
>non-canon prequels.
What's life like being as outright mentally deficient as you are?
>>64263255
The Sith is a specific organisation of force sensitives that use the dark side. You could be a dark side user without joining the sith.
>>64263589
>the Jedi are child molesters
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>>64270531
Disney kept the prequels and the Clone Wars tv show canon. Both of those things distinguish between the Sith and just someone who uses the dark side. You're literally just wrong.
>>64263255
Its like asking what the difference is between being a terrorist and a muslim. Technically, you can be a terrorist without being muslim but most terrorists are actually muslims.
>>64272780
the sith is ever just three nincompoops. one old, grouchy yet knowledgeable dude training a young, power hungry, backstabbing apprentice, and a jealous outsider looking to kill the apprentice and become the new one. the way lucas intended it.
