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>Here’s the sad truth: the false dichotomy between the Dark Side and the Light Side of the Force is just another indicator of the decline of Western civilization.

>But more than that, the Dark Side vs. Light Side nonsense prioritizes feelings over behavior. Hate doesn’t lead to evil. It depends on what you hate. Lucas says hate leads to suffering. Well, hating the Nazis didn’t lead to suffering. As Proverbs 8:13 says, “To fear the Lord is to hate evil.” And passivity doesn’t lead to decency. Gandhi urged the Jews to try passive resistance against the Nazis. That was moronic.

>Worse, the morality of the Force creates the worst sort of moral equivalence. It’s the same idiotic logic that leads every show these days to include some character chiding the prospective hero about not killing the bad guys, lest they become the bad guys. If you use hate to kill the Emperor, the Emperor has won, this logic goes.

>Really? What if you use hate to kill the Emperor, then turn around and don’t use hate on the civilians? Was it better to sit there in a cave while millions of voices cried out and were suddenly silenced on Alderaan? Wouldn’t it have been slightly better for Obi Wan not to have retreated to his cave monastery?

>The vision of the Force in the Star Wars galaxy is morality-free. It’s feelings-centered, which is another way of saying “selfish.” Who cares about your feelings? Go kill the Emperor using whatever means you have at your disposal. And it turns out that shooting lightning from your fingertips and Force-choking is a slightly more useful skill set than Jedi mind tricks that don’t even work on Jabba.

BASED BEN SHAPIRO

http://www.dailywire.com/news/2037/force-star-wars-stupid-and-immoral-ben-shapiro
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>>64242669
That is grade-A clickbait, in the non-meme sense. It's a ridiculous statement backed up by flimsy evidence about something currently relevant in the attempt to get people to click on it out of anger.

It's like, if you had to have an example of clickbait to accompany an encyclopedia of internet terminology, this would be an acceptable catch-all submission. Kotaku-style "why video game is sexism because reasons" and Buzzfeed-style "top ten anal fissures in hollywood" would be comparable.
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>>64242669
>idiot with bad haircut says stupid things for clicks and because he hates himself
Well.
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>>64242669
Ben "Gas The Trannies" Shapiro is sharp as ever. Bravo!
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>>64242669
>MUH MORALS

also i see that little hat there, i wonder who's behind this
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>>64242669
Literally who?
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>>64242669
Ben Shapiro is a whiny rich bitch who goes on and on how other races are shit but once somebody refuses to foot the bill for Israel's waterparks he goes on a big rant about anti antisemitism and how people are so cruel :(((
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>>64242669
>hating the Nazis didn’t lead to suffering
Yeah, apparently 1945-1947 genocide of the German people in Poland, Czechoslovakia and Germany is not "suffering".
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>Shapiro

ay gevalt, gotta give this one to /pol/
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>>64242882
Ben "Smear-o the queer-o" Shapiro has literally never been wrong about anything.
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>>64242960
That never happened.
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he's right. the morality behind the force is LOLretarded juvenile trash. star wars is still fun though
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>>64243078
>nazis were bad therefore their enemies were good
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>>64242669
>Well, hating the Nazis didn’t lead to suffering.

yes, goy, the world is much better now than if the Nazis had won!
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>>64243119
No, I'm just questioning your so called genocide that never happened.
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hes such an israel shill it's ridiculous
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>>64243078
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944–50)
>The current official position of the German government is that the death toll resulting from expulsions ranged from 2 to 2.5 million civilians
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans#20th_century
>In 1942, nearly all the able-bodied German population was conscripted to the NKVD labor columns. About one-third did not survive the camps
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>>64243186
>>64243186
>advocating for the only remotely civilized place in the entire middle east is bad

okay Khaled
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>>64243262
JIDF go away.
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>>64243147
like the holocaust
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>And as it turns out, in order to defeat the Dark Side, you have to get familiar with it. The dichotomy just doesn’t work, practically. When Luke Skywalker defeats the Emperor, he does it by exercising mercy toward Darth Vader – but only after letting the hate flow through him, attempting to kill the Emperor, and chopping off Daddy’s hand. When Darth Vader throws Palpatine down a shaft, does he do so out of pure love, or does he do so out of just a bit of hatred of the guy who’s busy Force-electrocuting his son?

>To understand the flaw of the Force as conceived by Lucas, we have to understand where the concept came from. Lucas drew the Force as a sort of Eastern wisdom; the Jedi speak like kung fu masters. Meanwhile, the experts in the Dark Side are supposed to represent the West – Lucas himself said that Star Wars was meant as a parable about the Vietnam War, and said that the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi were supposed to be the Vietcong against the massed mechanized power of the United States. No word on whether the Ewoks massacred hundreds of thousands of other Ewoks after taking over Endor.

He has a point, ya know.
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>>64242669
David Brin beat this guy to everything he is saying back in the 90's.
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>>64243262
>yes goy, da u.s. dindu nuffin
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>>64243239
>muh 2.5 million krauts
You believe anything that's online just to validate your worldview.
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>Tha Nazis!

when will Jews give this Nazi thing a rest? it's been 80 years!
Also why won't this Shapiro bitch ever mention that this "imoral" Hollywood shite is created by his Jewish tribe? If it was made by Muslims he wouldn't stop talking about it I'm sure
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>>64242669
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>>64242669
>hating the Nazis didn’t lead to suffering

Not the the jews that now run everything, no. But for the rest of us?
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>>64242669
>Lucas says hate leads to suffering.

Well Lucas borrowed that from Buddhism

Not even reading the rest of the crap
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>>64243262

JIDF please
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>>64243239
Do you have any actual evidence these camps existed and were used as death camps?
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>>64243262
it's quite easy to make a place civilized if you murder, imprison and forcibly relocate the native population, who don't live up to your personal brand of "civilized"
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>>64242669
I agree. In reality, the Jedi were the evil ones, but used propaganda to brainwash others into believing they are the "light". They make child soldiers out of orphans they kidnap, and are guided by some ugly thousand years old monstrosity who teaches them that feelings, individuality and sex are bad, and that they must do what the Jedi deems to be the good thing. Their neglecting attitude pushed Anakin to the Dark Side. Fortunately, he brought balance to the force by eliminating most of the evil Jedi. Based Anakin.
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Wuh-oh!

http://youtu.be/zUQiUFZ5RDw
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Why is Ben Shapiro's go to defense calling someone else anti-Semitic?
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>>64243399
You just described most if not all countries existing today.
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>>64243356
Most of us are well fed and live in houses or apartments with internet.

I don't think we're "Suffering"
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>>64242669
>wearing a yamulke in a casual photo

jesus christ this mega kike
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>>64242669
>hating the Nazis is okay

As expected of a duplicitous kike. The modern Right is such a fucking joke.
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>>64243433
Because that's what Jews do when they lose arguments. Its their race card equivalent.
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>>64243309
>Wikipedia is a German-friendly resource
After the war Germans became the victims of genocide, it's a fact. Even if you don't count civilian losses due to bombings/shelling, starvation, etc, the death toll (mostly during a peacetime, mind you) is around 3 millions.
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>>64243399
says the guy most likely posting from a computer in the US, canada, australia or new zealand
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>>64242960
>Krauts
>people

KURWA JA PIERDOLĘ
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>>64243436
>most if not all countries existing today.
there is a world outside USA, merican. Not all countries relied on genociding an already existing population.
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>>64243239
>official German government
The same government that bans talking about it

The same government that lies about refugees constantly

I'm not even denying the Holocaust per se, that's just a good reason why appealing to authority is a fallacy
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Tbh retconning the EU means that all the actually interesting stuff about the Jedi not being as good as they liked to think they are. There was all kinds of stuff about how the light and dark sides aren't actually good vs evil so much as emotion vs calmness.

>The difference between the dark and light sides appears to be in how they feel to those who are aware of them. The light side at times has been described as a flowing river: soothing, constant, with hidden strength. In contrast, the dark side has been described as a roaring fire: obviously powerful, seductive, and potentially dangerous.

The reason why dark side users are more dangerous is because they are often controlled by their passions and lack restraint.
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>>64243386
>were used as death camps
It werent "death camps", but it's still genocide.
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>>64243289
>Actually believing Lucas' bullshit excuse for ewoks

He wanted to sell them as toys, simple as that.

>>64243481
That's was almost completely Russia, but I'm sure you don't blame them
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>>64243476
Why would right wing capitalists like Nazis?

Nazis hated capitalists and communists as much as they hated Jews...
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>>64243498
>most likely

I thought Jews were supposed to be intelligent? All you portray is at best stupidity, at worst deceitfulness.
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>>64243476
dey nazis didnu nuffin dey were good boys giv me fre shit cuz i'm ayran
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>>64242669
oh god this edgy fucker again... it's a movie get over yourself
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>>64243481
If the German government lies about the holocaust, then why should I trust it about the "genocide of germans?"

Also, I don't see any evidence of extermination camps for mass murder of Germans.
And the actual number of Germans killed after the war was significantly (typically an order of magnitude) lower than the official lie of 2 million.
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>>64243433
patton oswalt is a 5'3 ultramanlet and thus nothing he says should be taken seriously
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>>64243433
>You attribute Kristol's philosophy to me because I am a Jew.
That makes no fucking sense. That's as retarded as liberals saying "you don't like Obama because he's black!".
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>>64243556
>That's was almost completely Russia
Czechoslovaks and Poles did their part too. British/US bombing were atrocious. I'm Russian, btw.
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>>64243614
ironically, it's actually possible to document and prove the massive german deathtoll, contrarary to the fabricated, inflated numbers used for the "holocaust".
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>>64243563
I don't give a shit what economic system we have. I just want degenerates to die in loads of pain. Is that too much to ask for?

>>64243578
cry more redditor :^)
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>>64243644
Ben Shapiro is an Israel shill and thus nothing he says should be taken seriously.
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>>64243569

They liked Capitalists they just didn't like Jewish capitalists because they believed that German capitalists were successful by virtue of their strength and Aryan purity. Jewish capitalists on the other hand we wealthy because of their deception and exploitation of Germans. In addition they lacked loyalty to the German nation, and couldn't be trusted to remain loyal to the nation over the pursuit of wealth.
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over analyzing and nitpicking, this guy should apply for a job at RLM
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>>64243542
Based on the lack of evidence, I believe that the "german genocide" figures need to be revised downwards.
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>>No word on whether the Ewoks massacred hundreds of thousands of other Ewoks after taking over Endor.
There goes you "hate the nazis" logic, Ben-kun.
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>>64243614
>extermination camps for mass murder of Germans
Nobody is making such claims.
>German government lies about the holocaust
/v/, pls go.
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>>64243569
you are posting on a board that is populated primarily by people from english speaking countries. with no other information about you, it is reasonable to say you are most likely from one of those countries. sorry if your shriveled inbred goybrain can't understand this.
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>>64243686
I don't see you posting any of your so called evidence.
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It's just a fucking movie

The Force isn't supposed to apply to real life farther than "don't let your emotions get the best of you" and shit. Its not real, so there can be no Dark Side. Fuck off you Jew faggot.
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>>64243760
There was no Russian program to exterminate Europe's Germans.
The estimate of 2 million Germans dead is an irresponsible exaggeration.
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>>64243721
>Capitalists
>Loyal to anyone but money
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>>64243860
>The Force isn't supposed to apply to real life farther than "don't let your emotions get the best of you" and shit

Can you point me to a canon publication that states this?
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does this idiot apply his retarded logic to everything? seriously
>"the Force is just another indicator of the decline of Western civilization"
is there something wrong with his head?
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>>64243670
>Russian fucking shits blaming Polacks for anything
LMAO
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>>64243981
Nope, just a typical /pol/tard
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>>64243861
>The estimate of 2 million Germans dead is an irresponsible exaggeration.
>a historical fact is inconvenient to muh narrative therefore it didn't happen
Burgerland education at its best.
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>>64244035
But /pol/ hates Jews.
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>>64243791
there is such a thing called asking, but I guess you suspect that you're wrong in your pitiful, baseless assumption, so you'd rather just strawman away like a good little circumcised boy. Not that you'd trust me anyway, since you've been brainwashed to distrust gentiles since birth.
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>>64243875

Hey I'm not agreeing with them I'm just explaining my understanding of their thoughts.
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The Force is the worst thing on Star Wars. It's a world of alien stuff and weird advanced technology, then out of nowhere there is a childish magical concept in it
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>>64243981
>not being able to pick up on the indicators of civilisational decline instinctively

hi, reddit SJW fedora-tipping whiteknight cuck faggot
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>>64244076
But /pol/ is a bunch of jews
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>>64243956
>Fiction
>Fiction describes people, places, events, or complete narrative works derived from imagination, in addition to, or rather than, from history or fact.
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>neo-con kike that got beat up by a tranny

pls
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>listening to a single word a zionist has to say

nuh uh not gonna do it
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>>64244068
I prefer the term "historical revisionism," myself.
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/patton-oswalt-and-ben-shapiro-go-off-in-explosive-twitter-war-on-anti-semitism/
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>>64244150
no m8, I meant the publication based on which you're making factual claims about said fictional universe. Because it sounded like you were making shit up to suit your fucktarded cuck worldview tbqh.
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>>64243861
>>64243799

http://www.bpb.de/geschichte/nationalsozialismus/dossier-nationalsozialismus/39587/die-vertreibung-der-deutschen

2mil to 2.5 mil dead and many more million driven from their homes. That's AFTER the war.
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>>64243333
>Also why won't this Shapiro bitch ever mention that this "imoral" Hollywood shite is created by his Jewish tribe?
He does you stupid inbred. He's literally the main figure exposing jewish subversion in the mainstream
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>>64244124
hi, buzzword faggot

please explain to me more in detail how the force is actually a sign of the decline of western civilization, let me just get my tinfoil hat
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>>64243688
https://youtu.be/LrX-I4JO9eo

u cry bby
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>>64244246
The Allies will pay for their warcrimes one day.
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>>64244246
I don't know, the Germans lied about the Jewish holocaust, but now we're supposed to trust them about this German Genocide?
It seems a bit too convenient to me.
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>>64242669
honestly, I usually can stand him, but this sounds like utilitarianism fucking shit

Deontology is the only accepted moral axiom to get into Heaven. Jewish, Socialist, and Muslim utilitarian fucking shits please go
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>>64244265
The Jews
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>>64243433
>>64243478
>>64243647
>defending Cuckon Oscuck
Fuck off reddit
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>>64244265
m8 it's not my problem you're retarded

not my job to educate your degenerate ass

>>64244288
>implying I have time to watch that
post your sperg shit elsewhere kiddo
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>>64243515
>what is colonialism

Yeah I guess it was the US raping and stealing the resources from Asia and Africa?

>>64242669
>Paleo-con JIDF shill who gets triggered when someone criticizes da promised land

OY
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>>64244246
Clearly fake and created by the elite german propaganda :)))
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>>64243372
retard
its desire that leads to suffering in buddhism, not hate
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>>64243466
I'm suffering ;_;
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>>64244357
>p-please buy our BMWs, we were genocided by the horrible russians!
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>>64244347
>not my job to educate your degenerate ass

So do you always post stupid shit then get mad when people as you to explain it?

>>64244378
Don't forget about anger senpai
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>>64244356
Every single African nation that's been colonised is currently better off than those that were not. Furthermore, decolonization resulted in severe social problems.
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>>64243697
>#blacklivesmatter
Wtf reddit?
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>>64243758
He was talking about vietnam you turbo cuckold
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>>64242669
>BASED BEN SHAPIRO
>bitches about a fantasy movie

Eat a dick and fuck off, Ben.
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>>64244411
>I'm an ignorant dumbfuck so I'll call him mad
pfft
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>>64244347
ur the degenerate bc you're acting like an internet tough guy faggot
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>>64244322
there was no jewish holocaust. The vast majority of jewish deaths in the camps were caused by malnutrition and typhus. Zyklon-B was a delousing agent used to COMBAT typhos.

What happened? Allied purposefully bombed the trainlines supplying the concentration camps, making it impossible to treat the typhos outbreaks and feed the inmates.

It takes only a few hours of research to completely debunk the holocaust myth.
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>>64244095
This guy has a point the force is childish
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>>64244076
Hi redit
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>>64244478
>ignorant

no he just isn't a deluded idiot
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>>64244201
Hi Laquisha
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>>64244356
>Yeah I guess it was the US raping and stealing the resources from Asia and Africa?

I don't see how that relates to my post.
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>>64244478
>Hurr it's the jews
>Muh degeneracy
>Decline of the West!
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>>64244524
samefag more
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>>64244574
>samefag
no there's just many people in this thread who see through your retardation
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>>64244574
No no no

You're supposed to call us shills then claim samefag. I can't work with him, can we get a new /pol/tard?
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>>64244564
>it's an "autist from reddit is autistic" post

too many of those recently tbн faм
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>>64244610
>1 shitposter
>many people
I bet you believe "many people" died in the Holocaust too, you absolute dipshit.
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>>64244647
>>64244684
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Why is eastern philosophy so shit?
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>>64244707
>y-you mad

no, you're just a sperg with no emotional awareness
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>>64244726
Because you only learned about it from /pol/
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>>64244513
Hi JIDF.
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>>64244726
No Jesus
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>>64242669
Who is the pleb who wrote this?

Light side is more based on Buddhism.
Dark side is based on a mundane point of view (desire, power, anger, pain)

The first truth explains the nature of dukkha. Dukkha is commonly translated as "suffering", "anxiety", "unsatisfactoriness", "unease", etc., and it is said to have the following three aspects:

The obvious suffering of physical and mental illness, growing old, and dying.
The anxiety or stress of trying to hold onto things that are constantly changing.
A subtle dissatisfaction pervading all forms of life due to the fact that all forms of life are changing, impermanent and without any inner core or substance. On this level, the term indicates a lack of satisfaction, a sense that things never measure up to our expectations or standards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism#Suffering.27s_causes_and_solution
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>>64244423
You aren't making any sense, JIDF.
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>>64244777
>/pol/
But i'm an SJW
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>>64244851
And I'm a Nazi
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>>64244784
Again Hi redit. Protip: /pol/ likes Shapirowitz
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>>64244841
keep your tl;dr sperg shit to reddit faggot

jesus
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>>64244851
>But i'm an SJW
well then welcome to the filter
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>>64244848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Vj3DXwOBI
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>>64244884
we really need to let this reddit meme die.
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>>64244968
Nah he is right that was reddit as shit
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>>64244968
haha

cry more faggot, nobody's going to accept your dweeb ass
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>>64242669

>the false dichotomy between the Dark Side and the Light Side of the Force is just another indicator of the decline of Western civilization.

but it's literally drawing on eastern mysticism
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>>64242669
Ben Shapiro is full of shit calling the Lord words...

To Ben Shapiro hate is good.

The jews killed Jesus.

Ben Shapiro wants killings.
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>>64245019
Where's the contradiction?

Western Mysticism > Eastern Mysticism

I'm a descendant of Tubal-Cain, not some chinky-dinky.
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>>64244505
There was no German genocide either.
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>>64245045
but jesus was a jew
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>>64245967
Jews didn't exist, he was Hebrew
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>>64246029
>Jews didn't exist
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>>64245967
Jesus was actually Lucifer faм. You've been deceived by the church.
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Pretty blue pilled if you ask me. Hate, anger, and other negative emotions poison even positive actions. Adults shouldn't allow their feelings to dominate them. Read the Stoics, you faggots.
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