JAMES CAMERON ON SUICIDE WATCH
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4137&p=.htm
>>64199749
There's been multiple threads about this and each one debunked the shill belief that TFA will topple Avatar. Just give it up already.
JJ ABRAMS IS THE NEW KING
TAKE THAT JAMES CAMERON
You poke the bear, you get the claws.
>>64199749
just another $1.8b to go
>Domestic
lol
> Ignoring TFA's 2nd week dropoff
> Implying it can make another 2.8 Billion.
> Implying it will even be in most theaters in February like Avatar
I'm not a Cameronfag, but c'mon anon.
>>64199804
>Target is Christmas 2017
Disney and its shills woken Based Jim from his slumber.
>>64199818
considering it's only been out for 10 days that doesn't seem like much.
>>64199835
1.8 Billion
>>64199835
Wait until TFA opens in China.
>>64199866
you weirdo americans may go for many viewings but the world wont
Fuck Avatar 2
Cameron needs to do something NEW
>>64199897
>Disagreeing with the King of Sequels
Jim will kindly show Disney and Rian Johnson how to get it done, anon.
>>64199866
It's the holiday idiot
Everyone has nothing to do so they go to the movies once kiddies go back to school the momentum will die down
>>64199749
How does he make the ruse man face so perfectly?
>>64199943
The Hateful Dingus, The Reverent, and other forms of Oscar bait will put TFA to rest post New Years
>>64199866
most of the movies that are the top earners were hot for many many months. they opened big, but not monumental. usually these huge openings tend to fizzle out.
tbf Disney has more to lose than Cameron
>biggest movie franchise of all time with an enormous marketing campaign vs. an unknown original IP with zero marketing behind it
>The Force Awakens has not even opened in China yet and it's already the fastest movie in history to hit $1bil worldwide.
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/dec/23/study-suggests-star-wars-the-force-awakens-could-be-huge-in-china
They even got some pop singer guy to make a song about lightsabers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGuBZQnbEA4
>>64199749
will james cameron make another film that will gross as much as Avatar? Americans didn't like the first avatar, i'm pretty sure they'll lose interest for the next one
>>64200023
oy vey
>>64200023
damn i want that bb8 :3
>/tv/ is actually happy that a soulless sequel/reboot made by Disney™ has the chance of beating an original movie that pushed the boundaries of filmmaking forever
/tv/ is dead, Reddit won.
>>64199783
Keep telling yourself that smurf-fag. Star Wars is so far the top grossing December release of all time for its 10 day total, and it's going to wreck Avatar's flute hole over the next month. Jealous haters trying to rationalize =/= debunking.
>>64200023
goddamn what a manlet
>>64200023
They even got some pop singer guy to make a song about lightsabers
>35k views in 1 month
must be relevant
Avatar 2 won't even come close to TFA.
It's not even fair
This is James Cameron's bad karma for endorsing this piece of shit.
>>64200026
America doesnt matter anymore, we China now.
Cameron just need to throw in some chinese actors or a chinese inspired Na'vi tribe and thats an instant $2b from China alone.
>>64199894
Wait until TFA flops in China.
>>64199909
Star Wars is a cultural phenomenon and has a vast fanbase the world over dating back decades. It's bound to make billions.
Avatar was heavily dependant on the "new" 3D gimmick to promote it. Its sequels, will struggle to make $1bn each.
I miss Based Cameron
>>64199895
Everyone knows that at least half of a big movie's box office comes from the world wide market these days. It's because of the world wide market that so many shitty movies are getting sequels.
>>64199749
Lets see if people tell there friends to go and see star wars like they did avatar, I know most people think im the biggest star wars fan around the area and told them that its not good if you want a star wars film, but if you want some non-stop action flick that doesn't feel like star wars hen go ahead.
>>64200198
how many times to James Cameron movies have to make their own audience out of nothing for people to start giving him credit.
>>64199749
>SUICIDE WATCH
Because having a movie make more money than a movie that made you billions of dollars is enough to make you want to kill yourself.
>>64200137
it's got 6.6 million views here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukAvTZbnN94
>>64199909
>Jim will kindly show Disney and Rian Johnson how to get it done, anon.
>Dances with Smurfs: Exotic Fish Edition with no Sigourney Weaver
The only reason the first Avatar made so much money was because of the 3D gimmick. What is Avatar 2 going to do to get people back to the theater, especially since we've all spent the last 6 years making fun of the first one for being stupid?
>>64200198
And yet Star Wars movies can't beat James Cameron's movies.
>We're never gonna beat Titanic; no one can
>First movie without Lucas' involvement will beat Titanic
>>64200255
Like what? Avatar was a rip-off of Pocahotas/DWW/Last of the Samurai, it was heavily marketed and had a somewhat attractive gimmick. The film was trash though, there's no cultural impact, nothing iconic about it and no real mass desire for sequels.
>Yes..i hear you all...i hear you down there,talking shit. i listen and chuckle, to your anger and bitterness echoing from below. such intense rage yet so minute and insignificant...so distant. the hum of grandiose declarations, supported only by delusions of mere mortals. one after another they have crawled before the golden gates of the 2 billion mark. barely standing up,bloody and tearful, trying to grasp it with thier gaze, realizing they will never pass through. they gave thier absolute best, but never reached thier destination. cursing my name as they are being cemented for eternity to thier pitiful position. but i forgave the blasphemy, disregarded thier envy, while i sit on the throne, ever so confident in my divine right as the Emperor Director. yet i still wish for a worthy contender, for a noble spirit to clash swords with. it is indeed, lonely at the top...
>>64200322
>Didn't see T2 mention
I'm disappointed in you, anon
>>64200017
Avatar had a budget of nearly $400 million, not including marketing. Fox was taking a huge gamble with that movie.
>>64199897
AVATAR was something new, and it stunk. Maybe he'll do better next time now that the world is established.
>>64200104
Join the cause on /qa/ to get rid of the cancer on picture related
They are the ones enabling this reddit sensibilities stuff
>>64200326
And? Star Wars will forever be considered a cultural icon. The only Cameron creation that comes even close to that is The Terminator.
>>64200104
/tv/ has always hated Avatar. Pretending to like Avatar is just a shitty new le ironic meme made by people who want to be able to somehow measure Star Wars failing, even though it's a huge hit.
>>64200419
>And?
James Cameron doesn't need to release a sequel or established franchise to reel in the big money, anon. Avatar made 2 billion worldwide. That's unheard of.
>The only Cameron creation that comes even close to that is The Terminator.
That's off topic
>>64200358
>Avatar was a rip-off of Pocahotas/DWW/Last of the Samurai
>it was heavily marketed
wrong on both accounts
>>64199749
I keep seeing this but I don't get it.
I mean I understand it's shitposting, but what does it matter? It's not like either movies are good.
>>64200505
>And Star Wars was a completely original tale!
>>64200378
must be fun pulling numbers outta your ass
Avatars budget was $237 million
>>64200505
>Avatar was officially budgeted at $237 million. Other estimates put the cost between $280 million and $310 million for production and at $150 million for promotion
>$150m for promotion
>not heavily marketted
>>64200560
I'm a Star Wars fan myself, but all of this TFA defending has been getting pathetic lately.
>>64200108
hahahaha holy shit dude you type like you're about to cry lmao
>>64200477
>James Cameron doesn't need to release a sequel or established franchise to reel in the big money, anon.
So why doesn't he then, instead of doing Avatar 2, which no one has asked for?
It'll beat Avatar domestically, but not internationally. It could still end up making more money, though. Studios tend to get a much larger percentage of the domestic than the international box office grosses
>>64200468
It's more about Jim than Avatar. The Avatar story is far from a masterpiece and is simple as it gets, everyone agree on that. But the effort he puts in his projects, and the way he pushed the envelope with each movie is admirable.
>>64199749
This is what butthurt haters actually believe.
Cry more.
The king is dead, long live king Jew Jew Abrham "the poet"
>>64200575
I guarentee you, TFA promotion budget is double that
>>64200575
Why is the left considered bad, but the right side is perfectly fine with you pretend nerds?
>>64200575
>$150m for promotion
>not heavily marketted
Thats an usual marketing budget for a $200+ million movie.
Now compare that to the $350 million marketing-budget of TFA.
>>64200575
Pacific Rim spent 200m on marketing, 150m for a major blockbuster is pretty average. Disney have probably spent closer to half a billion promoting SW
>>64200614
Why would I cry? Star Wars is back again and it's going to be the top grossing film of all time.
>>64200306
>6 mirrion
>in china
wew
>>64200622
Why is that a problem? You should put aside your personal problems with Avatar, anon, and ask the same thing for Star Wars.
>but cultural phenomenon!
Cultural phenomenon, my ass. It's the nostalgia talking.
>asked family if anyone saw Episode 7 on Christmas
>literally no one did
>>64200622
Making a sequel to Avatar is a terrible idea, honestly. The first movie wasn't particularly good aside from the visuals, and there's not really anywhere for the story to go other than "the humans come back with bigger guns," and that's not what the sequel will be about anyway. I'm not interested in watching a bunch of CG characters go scuba diving for 3 hours or whatever shit it is that Cameron does for the next movie.
>>64200783
Your family is more patrician than you.
>>64200413
I don't see how swaglord is gonna control a shitposting machine. Nothing against the rules except ironic shitposting.
Also you have to be fucking new if you think these threads are not bait. Some are stupid enough to believe in them aswell
>>64200687
>Even mentioning JJ with based Jim in the same sentence
>>64200630
I doubt it'll top Avatar. Avatar was a freak that pretty much kicked off this lucrative 3D fad that every big budget blockbuster has benefited from.
How often did a major cinema release break the $1bn barrier before '09? Now we have 2-3 films per year doing it with ease.
>>64200783
Sounds like your family enjoys cinema and not flicks
>>64200783
Only Jews go to the movies on Christmas.
So now that JJ is King of the World, what's the next nostalgia he'll turn into mindless casual action schlock?
>>64200705
Star Wars is making a shitton of money off of tie in marketing though, which Avatar had a lot less of. Every time you see BB-8 in a commercial or hear the Star Wars theme, Disney makes money.
>>64200853
He's king of the world for the next week or so before it reverts back to the true king and savior of the box office and cinema.
>>64200705
I never mentioned TFA. I disputed the erroneous claim that Avatar wasn't heavily marketed by providing a reported figure that shows it very much was.
>>64200853
E.T.
>>64200718
I never mentioned TFA, I'm not defending it, please quit your desperate strawman argument.
>>64200468
Who was the true villain /tv/?
>>64200358
Yeah, Star Wars instead is such a fresh concept and not totally a rip off.
>>64200805
>Making a sequel to Star Wars is a terrible idea, honestly. The first movie wasn't particularly good aside from the visuals, and there's not really anywhere for the story to go other than "the empire comes back with bigger laser swords," and that's not what the sequel will be about anyway. I'm not interested in watching a bunch of niggers go ice planet for 3 hours or whatever shit it is that Disney does for the next movie.
>>64200958
Jake was the real villain. He was a disgusting species-traitor and probably a furfag.
>>64200104
>Avatar
>original
>not being Dances with Wolves in space
>>64200724
Again; I never mentioned TFA. $150m to market a film is huge, regardless of what some other film spends. Claiming Avatar wasn't heavily marketed is possibly the dumbest thing I have read on here today.
>>64200898
Avatar's marketing didn't really kick off until after it became clear that the movie was a hit.
Just observing another distinction between TFA and Avatar, as if it were necessary. The movies really became successful for totally different reasons and are in a sense opposites.
>>64200771
My comment was about Avatar, not SW.
>Cultural phenomenon, my ass.
Are you seriously claiming Star Wars isn't a cultural phenomenon? Really?
>>64200988
/tv/ became the Avatar Defense Force overnight just because of the ass pain Star Wars is causing. Go back to 2009 and everyone here hated Avatar and was rooting for it to fail because everyone saw it as being a ripoff of Dances with Wolves and Pocahontas.
>>64200732
rofl holy shit you sound so angry dude
>>64200224
Somehow these movies keep on getting made
>>64200986
I must've missed the part where Kevin Costner could transfer his soul into the cloned body of a native american.
>>64200805
Cameron is going to do some insane combination of every sci-fi plot idea he has in his head, and he has three movies to do it in. He isn't limited by the established concept or plot, he just has to tie it in to the original story convincingly.
The human race doesn't even need to be the villains.
>>64199749
I'm not a Cameron-fag but hasn't Avatar been in cinemas for like 6 months or something? Doubt TFA will last as long.
Also this doesn't count but I remember teh start of the DVD/Blu-Ray Sales being hyped up like nothing before as well.
I think Avatar was shit and I don't care about Star Wars personally so I have no horse in this race. either way will be nice to see one side BTFO soon.
>>64200969
Where did I mentioned it wasn't? Can you even debate without resorting to strawmanning?
>>64201069
Projecting much?
>>64201028
Are you really claiming that spending £150m marketing a film isn't "heavy marketing"?
>>64201096
>ever doubting Based Jim
Consider suicide.
>>64201096
Star Wars is on track to make more than Avatar, in a shorter amount of time. Star Wars movies are always in theaters for a long time, too.
>>64201033
>Star Wars isn't a cultural phenomenon
it really depends on how you define that term. people already went to conventions and bought merchandise and cosplayed as characters, largely thanks to the original Star Wars.
>>64200575
Stop posting this, it only gets to Hometree.
>>64201146
>Star Wars is on track to make more than Avatar
Screencapped
>>64199866
You don't know how movies work do you, you fucking pleb?
>>64200988
the point is, it wasnt as heavily marketed as Star Wars
its laughable that a well known IP like Star Wars needs twice the marketing budget of Avatar, to come even close to their boxoffice profits
>>64201056
Yes, I remember. There's a clique of edgy kids who think being deliberately contrarian makes them unique, but they simply parrot each other's views. If this place was like reddit, they'd be upboating.
>>64200885
Of course Disney will always outkike Cameron in that department. But we're talking about theater numbers here m8
>>64201132
no, and I made it clear I wasn't interested in tedious semantic debate in the post you were replying to.
TFA is the most hyped movie ever and the hype started months before release to ensure it would be as front-loaded as possible. it's not comparable to Avatar.
>>64201200
>its laughable that a well known IP like Star Wars needs twice the marketing budget of Avatar, to come even close to their boxoffice profits
It really is - if an established franchise can't beat an original IP... well that's just pathetic IMO.
>>64201146
Sure, sure.
>Aliens, Terminator 1&2, True Lies are all 10/10
>now all we're getting is avatar sequels
makes me sad tttt (to tell the truth)
>>64200718
>>64201167
I define it in the widely regarded and accepted term.
>>64200986
I forgot, where was the 9/11 parallel in Dances with Wolves? Was it before or after Costner mind-bonded with a dragon after his soul was transferred to that of a native american / Costner gene mix clone?
>>64201237
>>64201253
a literal god
>>64200986
The endless dilemma. Half of all movies have this story anon but i agree we should stop just changing the environment and focus on a NEW story.
I can only dream
>>64200986
Avatar wasn't set in space though.... are you thinking of Gravity?
>>64201253
how did Fast and the Furious become so mainstream? I remember watching Tokyo Drift and seeing no buzz around the movie. and tokyo drift is 10x better than that ff7 garbage
>>64201200
No, the point was Avatar wasn't heavily marketed. It was only when I provided a figure did the goalposts change and the "hurr durr not as much as Star Wars" quip entered the conversation.
I have no idea what the marketing costs of TFA are. It's completely irrelevant to the point I was disputing. >>64200505
>>64201341
yeah Shakespeare was such a hack with ripoffs like Macbeth, Hamlet, Romeo & Juliette etc.
>>64201232
So why reply with a point totally unrelated to the one I was disputing, you little autistic shit?
>>64200413
>mfw they're in charge of /tv/
>>64201082
That's literally no different from Tom Cruise becoming a prisoner in the samurai village. Just a means to get him in the society before he "goes native"
>>64201386
FF7 was Paul Walker's last movie. Normies eat that shit up.
>>64201266
True Lies is fucking gash, m8.
Even if TFA doesn't do it, ep IX will
>>64201324
>i will ignore the entire fucking plot and the similarities that exist because of one idea that wasn't in those films
>>64200705
yea and they're making a SHITLOAD of money from merchandise. i'm pretty sure that they're probably making more money right now off of merch sales
>>64201467
you're getting mad because people ITT have differing definitions of the phrase "heavily marketed", and you've chosen to make an issue out of Avatar being "heavily marketed" by your own definition but not theirs. I think maybe you are the one who should calm down.
>>64201486
Ok, where the Hometree BTFO equivalent in Dances with Wolves?
>>64201516
HAHAHAHAHA
I knew star wars fags would be the first to move the goalposts and act as if a future star wars movie would do it when they realized their precious dogshit franchise wouldn't be able to come close to avatar
>>64201558
That was the entire third act, numbnuts.
>>64201516
VIII would though. they left a lot of questions and made shit vague in VII to set up the anticipation for the next episode
>>64201253
James knows how to keep his movies in theaters for a long time, it's some kind of fucking magic.
Also Titanic was released twice.
>>64201577
No one is getting mad. I made the point Avatar was heavily marketed, which it was. You, or some other anon, claimed otherwise, I disputed that point and provided a a figure, a figure which you said wasn't a lot, then claimed it wasn't as much as TFA.
No one said TFA isn't heavily marketed btw. Claiming Avatar isn't though is just ignorant.
>>64201585
What the fuck is hometree? Does anybody even remember that movie?
Kevin Costner ate a heart for fucks sake.
>>64201574
do you think they'll give you any of that money?
if Disney aren't interested in making a good movie, how does the success of Star Wars even benefit you?
>>64201670
The Abyss? True Lies?
>>64201670
>it's the "avatar made so much money because it was in theatres for so long" meme
What the FUCK has to be wrong with your brain to believe that this was the case, and not the opposite: Avatar was in theatres for so long BECAUSE it was making so much money so consistently.
>>64201558
you mean the one small idea that was the whole hook of the movie, which the movie was even named after it?
>>64201709
>literally doing exactly what the post you were replying to pointed out was a waste of time
>"autistic shit" isn't getting mad
neat
>>64201747
What was Avatar's single biggest daily taking?
>>64201742
I have no figures on those two particular movies but I'm sure they were both successful and I like them both.
>>64201747
I don't respond to posts that end in 747, Airplane.
It's not beating Avatar, that much is clear now. It'll probably beat Jurassic World and that'll be that.
Avatar was a "must-see" on an entirely different level and had several factors acting in its favour; first big 3D movie, one of the first to really push the use of performance capture, a huge amount of hype around its lengthy development, very impressive visuals, and it was an original scifi IP. TFA is doing incredibly well, noone will debate that, but it's not going to hit Avatar or Titanic numbers.
>>64201253
This proves what, exactly?
>>64201830
$28m; second weekend saturday
>>64201777
Are you seriously claiming Avatar is wholly original and there exists no similarities with films like Pocahontas, Dances... and Last of the Samurai?
>>64200171
Nice meme
>>64201834
The Abyss was considered a commercial flop. Shame, as I really think it's a great film.
>>64201835
It's going to destroy Avatar domestically
Is this thread all about /tv/ hating movies that appeal to the masses or is it about James Cameron vs. Star Wars?
Is it both?
>>64201739
kek cameron-fags getting mad. your toys didn't sell that's why
>>64201962
There's at least three different debates going.
>>64201747
I feel you, anon, it's so frustrating.
>>64201885
That TFA won't come close to Avatar's overseas gross.
![latest[10].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uFEsta6.jpg "latest[10].jpg")
>>64201903
I am seriously claiming that, yes.
>>64201953
It's such a great film, I wish /tv/ discussed it more. I put it up there with T2 and Aliens as Camerons best work.
>>64201574
The merchandise for Avatar was pretty terrible. Aside from your typical spirit animal bullshit looking shirts with na'vi, the action figures were dreadfully low quality, especially compared to other action figures that were out at the time like Star Wars and GI Joe. It's like Mattel was 10 years behind Hasbro when it came to plastic pressing technology.
Disney should be glad that Hasbro is grandfathered into the Star Wars license. If Mattel was in charge of the action figures for TFA they'd look like hot garbage.
So let me get this straight you people shitpost and argue over what movie makes more money?
>>64202010
Nothing will likely beat Avatar's worldwide total, unless it has some gimmick to draw an audience in.
>>64201835
the Avatar sequels will be the second biggest film series shot in 48fps, but i dunno if it'll bring the hype up considering how mediocre the Hobbit was.
i hope it does though because 24fps is just too slow for me.
>>64201961
exactly, just be happy with whatever crumbs Disney can get from destroying Star Wars. they'd probably prefer to have made a movie that was actually good and didn't require $300 million in marketing to break records, but, you know, beggars can't be choosers I guess.
>>64201903
No, but there is nothing wrong with a movie that borrows some ideas, improves them and becomes superior than its source material.
>>64202072
>Dat Susan
Holy fuck, and is that supposed to be Michelle Rodriguez?
>>64202111
>the Avatar sequels will be the second biggest film series shot in 48fps
How will JC create a render farm able to do this in a reasonable amount of time?
>>64201953
>>64202041
>tfw
>lot of you have asked what’s going on with the Blu-ray release of Cameron’s The Abyss and True Lies, and the Cameron-produced Strange Days, here in the States. The answer seems to be that it’s complicated. There appears to be a dispute or pissing match of some kind going on between Cameron and 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment. Cameron points the finger squarely at TCFHE, and for their part TCFHE says nothing. But our information would suggest that there are larger issues at play here than just these titles. All of which is terribly frustrating for fans who know that work has been done on these discs and who are eagerly awaiting them, but there it is.
>>64202078
Sometimes yeah.
>>64201742
Flicks
>>64202072
Avatar's action figures were likely rushed out because they didn't realize the movie would make so much.
Star Wars only got away with sending out boxes without toys in them because it literally invented monetizing movies like that.
>>64201726
All I remember is that the marine guy was supposed to convince the Na'vi to move out of their tree so they could get the rocks underneath, and he got too wrapped up in having sex with the blue elf girl and forgot to ever mention it, so the tree got bulldozed and then they had a fight where bows and arrows were able to shoot down battle cruisers.
>>64202156
it's literally being done by WETA digital
Remember that Avatar cheated by having $50 dollar tickets
>>64202198
>>64201726
>tfw I will never get to feel this proud of being stupid
>>64201835
>It's not beating Avatar, that much is clear now
Why? Because TFA is making too much money too fast?
I know Cameronfags are prone to mental gymnastics, but their "logic" for how Star Wars will not beat Avatar despite making more money is still completely lost on me, probably because my brain has not been chemically altered by the mass consumption of Jimbo C's semen.
ABATAP must be spinning in his grave right now
>>64202294
Reminder that all movies are cheating by adjusting ticket prices to match inflation.
>>64201953
The aliens were so angry at the humans for having a war with each other, that they were going to declare war on humanity. Like pottery.
>>64202156
also the sequels will be in 4k where as the first Avatar was shot and rendered in 2k.
So that's 8x as many pixels that have to be rendered (taking into account the 48fps also)
>>64202010
How so? The chart shows Star Wars beating Avatar already. You have no evidence that Star Wars can't keep its momentum going other than that you don't want it to.
>>64201885
Your sweet TFA gonna flat line pretty soon
>>64201333
How can one man be so based.
>>64202296
>tfw I will never give a shit about Avatar or it's shitty plot.
Feels good man.
>>64199783
it will beat avaturd in the domestic market in less than a month
>>64202196
They were showing Avatar toys at ComiCon and Toyworld like a year before the movie came out. Mattel jumped on the bandwagon pretty early, they just half-assed the product. The video game was half-assed, too.
>>64202376
>>64202156
are you people literally worried that James Cameron will make a movie and then discover he doesn't have enough computers to render it?
do you think there will be scenes he has to complete in MSPaint?
>>64199897
indeed, it a shame that avatar made so much money because that's the reason it's getting sequels at all and now cameron is wasting his talent on space smurf movies
You need 30 million every single day in two months in order to break the record. It's gonna happen boys
>>64199824
>gaining more money in one country than multiple shit ones
usa usa usa
>>64202376
Maybe it will only run to 90 minutes
>>64202127
Making the first watchable film in the series since 1983 is tantamount to destroying the franchise?
>>64202376
Are you the anon who has every frame of Avatar saved? If so, can you share some ney?
>>64202566
>dude just turn your brain off lmao
>>64202551
Why an arbitrary two months? Why won't TFA be in cinemas for at least 200 days?
>>64202499
The movie will get made, but it will be damn expensive. Part of why rendering movies is expensive is because the GPUs and CPUs in the render farms actually burn out during the render process and have to be replaced throughout. We're not just talking the cost of building the render farm and running electricity through it, but also having the staff qualified to run through the render farm and swap out the hardware whenever something burns out. Some of these GPUs cost thousands of dollars, and there are hundreds of them in a single render farm.
>>64202622
You just answered your own question dumbass
>>64202566
>watchable
>it's a shitty rehash of ANH
TFA will not beat Avatar.
Remind that it doesn't mean fuck-all to Disney because merchandising will make billions of dollars on it's own.
On that note, do you think JJ put in a flame-throwing Storm Trooper as a nod to Mel Brooks and Space Balls? If so that would be hilarious.
>>64202684
Which people are watching more than the PT.
>>64202614
The prequels have the plot-hole of The Force Awakens, except without that film's good acting and competent direction. It's just objectively better. You don't kill a franchise by making something better than what came before.
>>64202419
How do you know? Avatar was just as likely to flatline after the first few weeks.
>>64202720
oh look it's the low expectations meme.
>>64202640
A fucking monkey could be trained to swap out a GPU, are you a moron?
>>64202684
The Phantom Menace is literally a remake of A New Hope, except done worse than The Force Awakens. By the standards of the prequels, episode VII is very watchable.
>>64202535
The only reason James Cameron makes movies anymore is so he can build more submarines.
>>64202762
But the another anon claimed it is the most watchable SW film since RotJ, which is clearly is, so what exactly are you arguing about, you dense cunt?
>>64201835
>and it was an original scifi IP
Aren't established IPs supposed to do better? That's why there's nothing but sequels, rehashes/remakes, and "universes" being done now.
>>64202566
>not liking all 7 Star Wars movies
Get on my level.
>>64202816
"do better" means "make money". It doesn't mean the movies are better. John Carter was pretty decent and it flopped hard. So yeah from a pure investment standpoint you're correct.
>>64202813
if you are happy with something better than the prequels you have shit taste. Disney will farm you like low-level mobs in an MMO for decades to come but Star Wars will still be destroyed.
>>64202896
>It doesn't mean the movies are better.
I think it was pretty clear I was talking financially.
>>64202908
Only the EU was destroyed, which is a good thing. TFA is a good movie.
Also dubs.
>>64202908
Nice strawman, negguh. Address the anon's statement. Whether you think TFA is shit is irrelevant, it's clear it is more watchable than the PT. By all means argue otherwise.
>>64200104
Avatar was shitty hippy leftist bullcrap
>>64202996
like I said, it's nice you have to resort to the low expectations meme. personally I'm okay with watching older movies of all genres so I'm not stuck rationalizing filmmakers underperforming like this. I don't have to argue on your terms because I'm not trying to persuade you of anything: your punishment is that you will keep paying for the movies Disney are making.
>>64202602
that's me!
>>64202896
>John Carter was pretty decent
>51% on RT
It really wasn't.
>>64203114
Good for you. Get back to me after you've watched and enjoyed "It Happened One Night".
>>64203114
Low expectations? I've never mentioned the quality of TFA. The argument was it is more watchable than the PT Star Wars films, which for some reason seemed to upset you. Why is that?
>>64203166
>Paying attention to review sites and averages.
That's your first problem. I'm sure you have others as well.
>>64203166
fucking kill yourself
>>64203225
No, I saw it and thought it was mediocre in the worst way that it was forgettable the instant after I watched it. Just using RT to show you that your opinion that it was decent was the minority. It also has a shitty rating on imdb.
>>64200413
>Redwood and Gingermod will never be back
jdimsa :(
I have a feeling people only defend John Carter because /tv/ is filled with Pixar fanboys and Andrew Stanton directed it. Any other guy and it would be forgotten just like the other 2012 box office bombs.
>>64202462
Maybe in less than 2 weeks if things go swimmingly.
It'll beat Titanic, something Jurassic World was about $5-$6 million from doing domestically
>>64201237
That's why I created Pocahontas in space.
>>64200853
indiana jones
>>64202080
Implying remaking A New Hope WITH A FEMALE LEAD isn't the biggest gimmick of all.
>>64203856
Dude, get laid, seriously.
>>64201253
Of all the movies on that graph, only two were Christmas releases, and the rest were summer releases. The two Christmas releases were Star Wars VII and Avatar, and between those two Star Wars has made more money than Avatar did in the same stretch of time. Avatar's 10 day record for December has already been BTFO.
gg avatarfags. Star Wars is back.
>>64203856
>le ebin strawman
>>64199749
I don't think it will beat Avatar. I loved TFA, I saw it twice and Im hoping it will top Avatar, just to have a movie from my most favorite franchise at that sweet #1 place.
But eaven with China, India and god knows who else I just it is diffretn time. Avatar was a revolutionary movie, love it or hate it, you can't deny that. People saw it because of that. TFA is good, but it is not revolutionary.
>>64203457
I didn't even know he directed it. But I've always said it was an enjoyable enough, well made space adventure film that was maybe a bit too long and sent out to die with what felt like barely any advertising
>>64203943
hello reddit
>Counting all the money made globally by the 28th as the ten day record for TFA
>Movie released on the 14th
>>64204253
>hello Reddit
Hello Reddit ;^)
>>64204334
>movie premiered on the 14th
>released in cinemas in the 18th
>being this much of a muppet
Hello Reddit.
ITT: reddit
>>64204562
how's it going reddit?
>>64204810
>>>/reddit/
>>64204853
i think your on the wrong website friendo, perhaps reddit is more to your taste?:
>>64204930
You'd know, reddit.
Why does NOBODY admit Disney spent 3 billion budget on Starwars to begin with?
James Cameron didn't pay anyone shit for the Pocahontas rights.
>>64199749
Fixed that for you OP.
>>64205092
Because Avatar is worth zip.
>>64204810
Why is eggman holding a sign?
>>64205190
Really? Because i just saw a fucking 3 billion dollar chunk of cash spent on a REMAKE of Star Wars that then KILLED OFF one of the most popular characters.
Avatar cost less. Hmmmm
>>64205347
You really think Disney won't make their money back and more?
You think Avatar as a franchise is worth anywhere near what Disney paid for SW?
>>64205347
Obi-wan was a main character in the prequels, and then he died in Episode IV, so they had to do the same with a main character in Episode VII. Like pottery.
>>64205446
Just the merchandise has already made Disney back all the money they paid for Star Wars.
>>64205552
It's a sound investment for Disney. No doubt about it at all, I think it's wishful thinking from people wanting it to fail.
>>64205155
Since you got dubs, if this thread hits autosage I'll use that as the OP for the next thread.
>>64200167
>her tits
shes so fucking hot goddamnnnnnnn
>>64205622
Nice dubs, chekd
