Episode VII is essentially a glorified fan fiction like Dragonball GT and thus not canon. Why do you guys take it so seriously?
except dragonball gt was good
>>64121502
Other way around man, the prequels have been rendered glorified fan fiction by all the ret-cons in this film.
>>64121546
George Lucas actually made the prequels..
>>64121591
>aliens isn't canon
fantastic reasoning you've got there
>>64121544
lets not get too ahead of ourselves here
>>64121698
I don't follow
>>64121591
Who cares, plenty of people are involved in the new one that made the original ones, you talk like it was a one man project
>>64121863
Yea that "one man" was the creator and mastermind behind the whole fucking series you shill.
>>64121897
>tfw can no longer tell apart sarcasm and sincere contrarians on here anymore
>>64121800
The canon of a series isn't dependent on who makes it, Aliens didn't have Ridley Scott or Geiger's art but it's still canon.
>>64121954
You should probably kill yourself.
>>64121502
>and thus not canon
That word doesn't mean what you think it means, no matter how hurt your feelings are about Star Wars.
>>64121992
>>64121992
>The canon of a series isn't dependent on who makes it
wtf am I reading
>>64121544
Super < GT
>>64122045
Stupid nigger look up what the word canon means
>>64121544
without saying super 17, baby or goku's ss4 transformation, tell me why gt was good.
if you say omega shenron I'm going to personally fill out a 4chan employee form, wait the required 4-6 weeks for approval, get my official 4chan banhammer script, then fly to your home and fuck your dog in the ass while breaking everything in your home with a baseball bat I picked up from academy.
>>64122079
Nuova Shenron, mother fucker.
>>64122079
It's better than Super because it wasn't animated by a 5 year old with parkinsons
>>64122079
>This much edge
I unironically liked that one nig lipped shenron even though I thought GT overall was shit.
>>64122074
Why don't you? I know you're trying to damage control but George Lucas could, if he wanted, say that episode 7 and beyond aren't really canon because his work holds way more weight.
>>64121502
Just came back from seeing this.
you can say what you want but bongo bongo boyega was charismatic as fuck.
>>64122241
No he couldn't because he has nothing to do with Star Wars anymore. The most he can say is "That's not really what I had in mind."
Canonicity is arbitrary. It's only relevant insofar as it dictates continuity between stories. Otherwise it doesn't matter. Because Disney now controls Star Wars, and all subsequent official Star Wars stories, they have control of continuity and the canon.
It has nothing to do with the creator and everything to do with who controls it officially.
>>64122043
Stop posting this goddess.
Reminder that the eu IS star wars and nothing disney make can change that
>>64122151
>better than super
it won't be once my nigga broly shows up and punishes bills and his transgender gaylord teleporter friend.
I predict by the end of super, the rankings will be:
1. DBZ(everything up until cell)
2a. Cell
2b. Super
3. Buu
4. GT
>>64122405
Cell saga is underrated compared to the frieza saga just like Episode 6 is underrated in comparison to episode 5
>>64122241
>>64122352
This, it all has to do with who the official entity is that dictates it. 5 years ago that was Lucas, now it's Disney. Learn2literacy retard.
>>64122405
Where would you put DB? Also Buu saga is god tier fuck you.
>>64122352
>>64122488
That's the consumerist way of thinking
Actual professionals know that Alien is better than Aliens and the prequels are better than episode 7
canon is lucas
non-canon is disney
and most importantly, company worshipping is for fedoras
>>64122405
The only people who dislike Buu are Gohan fans also known as cucks.
>>64122510
hey, I put it at 3. You can't honestly expect anyone to think Buu saga is better than Cell.
and DB stands alone. it's far too different from Z to even group it. but if I had to, it would sit at #1.
>>64122620
Gohanfags are truly the worst
>>64122045
>being this retarded
>on purpose
Yoda go home, you're drunk
>>64122599
The definitions of words don't change because you think they're stupid you flaming autist.
That's still not what canon means. Were all the people who wrote the bible the ones who decided which books were canon and which weren't?
>>64122599
>implying my post is company worship
You delusional twat. No, it isn't. It's just what canon is. Canon by its nature is, as I said, arbitrary and only reflects "official" recognition of stories and references of stories in other stories. It has to do with being official and continuity, it doesn't matter otherwise. Even Biblical canon (where the entire idea come from) works in a way similar to this.
Stop mistaking your own preferences for what's canonical.
>>64122674
>posting librarian gohan
look here, flam. gohan was meant to be the face of the franchise, but the jap community wanted it to continue being goku. this is the reason we never get vegeta as the hero to save the day, because japs only want to see goku. same reason all the gatekeeper characters got hit with the power gap and left behind(rip tien/yamcha, you never stood a chance)
if any fags are the worst, let it be the goku crowd that hold back the series.
>>64121502
I'd compare it to Transformers (OT Star Wars) and Beast Wars (Ep. 7) Not too crazy about Beast Wars but it's not without merit. The prequels I'd compare to Michael Bay Transformers.
>>64122881
Just a rumor.
>Interviewer: And then the Cell arc ended. Did you think that everyone felt you would put Gohan into the leading role?
>Akira Toriyama: I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.
Gohan sucks. Just admit it.
>>64122405
broly is pretty much the only thing that would make me watch super
>>64122674
What the fuck did they do to gohan?
>>64121502
Because it's a bad fanfiction
>>64123407
he has always been a weak dyel faggot who needed help to achieve anything
>>64125134
Except when he survived in the wilderness for half a year at the age of 4.
>>64122674
I remember reading that Toriyama was going to change main characters but the Japs bitched out and then he was forced to stick with Goku, fuck Vegeta, and destroy Gohan
>>64121502
The participation of Lawrence Kasdan prevents VII from being fan fiction. VIII and IX however, will be full blown fanfic.
>>64122079
OMEGA
SHENRON
>>64121544
I will fucking gut you cunt
>>64125705
doesn't mean shit
>>64127644
At least he's better than Goten or Trunks
>>64128971
yeah i'll give you that much
>>64121591
And he didn't make the originals.
>>64122352
>It has nothing to do with the creator and everything to do with who controls it officially.
judges and lawyers determine what's canon? why? that's just as arbitrary as anything.
whatever i make up in my head is canon.
