What movie has the most Mary Sue character you can think of?
>>64098156
Lucy, probably
An amateurish film with a major fault such as a Mary Sue isn't gonna get funded in most cases.
Harry Potter
>>64098256
Star Wars™: The Force Awakens™ did
Fuck. CIA is a Mary Sue.
>>64098582
This reads like an intro to the Twilight Zone
>>64098156
divergent
this guy
>le gentlemen anarchist xD
>>64098156
Star Wars (1977)
>>64099020
This, holy shit.
Pootie Tang
Buckaroo Banzai
Was John Wick a mary sue?
>>64099331
No, he was a John Wick.
Hunger Games
Poe Dameron
>>64098156
Can you susinctly describe them with a single adjective
>>64099438
"perfect"?
>>64099331
yes
Boba Fett is the original Mary Sue
>>64099438
Oops didn't read the post, thought we were doing that pic related
>>64098156
Willow Rosenberg
>the bestest hacker
>the smartest student
>the witchiest witch
>other characters are wrong if she's not the center of their world
>>64099331
No. John wick was a shit film. Period.
.
>>64099487
No he wasn't. He was established to have had those talents, they didn't just come out of nowhere.
John Wick was not a sue.
>>64099331
John Wick was who you call when you need Mary Sue killed.
Fucking James Bond
Is Daenerys Targaryen a mary sue?
>>64099629
She would be if not for things constantly going wrong for her. There are no Mary Sues in ASoIAF.
>>64099510
topkek
>>64099331
No. He got his ass kicked in the beginning. And in the club sequence one of the bodyguards beat him up.
>>64099658
I kind of thought so initially too. But Daenerys and Jon have plot armor out the butthole
>>64099622
Now that's what I call awicked sense of humor
>>64099629
In what way? She ends up in lots of really shitty situations despite her considerable political power.
>>64099629
TV Daenerys definitely. It doesn't help that Emilia Clarke's whole performance is screaming "I'm so awesome, I'm a strong woman on TV and everybody loves me! People love me!"
Jason Bourne
>>64099712
>But Daenerys and Jon have plot armor out the butthole
Dysentery isn't plot armor, neither is Stockholm Syndrome. Also, Jon is dead. Until he's back in the books/show, he's still dead. If anything, Tyrion's got the plot armor.
Riddick
>>64099623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtYZYxvsToM
Look at Bond get his ass kicked in Goldeneye. Or be tortured in Casino Royale. Bond being a Sue depends on the movie.
LOTR - Legolas
>>64099767
>>64099832
These are correct.
Movie Hermione
Sherlock Holmes
>>64098156
Young anakin from phantom menace.
king mary sue comin' through
>>64099939
Isn't he a mentor figure?
>>64098156
>muh mary sue
Get Raped OP
Honestly fuck people who trump on this.
Hollywood is exploiting feminism as a PR tool to generate buzz for their films.
GET FUCKED
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fuck star wars
>>64099973
Yes, and he rarely fights. Also he got killed. Naruto's guilty of a lot as a series, but this isn't one of those things.
>>64099939
>mary Sue
>can't use 5 techniques without loosing all of his gas
This guy. But for all the wrong reasons.
>>64099623
That's e point of the movies
>>64099629
She's a Reverse Midas.
Star Wars© Episode VII: The Force Awakens™
>>64099623
Forget you. the only way Bond could be a Mary Sue is if James Bond was a garbage man one day and an international spy the next. and then assholes would defend him saying, "Well he's a garbage man in new York and has to fend off niggers and beaners and trailer trash all day, so he's had lots of training." or some equally retarded shit.
>>64099718
And the funny thing is not even Wick's a mary sue because assassin had to save him.
TWICE.
>>64098306
this is a pretty good answer, mi familia
>>64099622
hello reddit
Batman and Superman can be pretty Mary Sue in many of their film iterations. They're basically a modern Odysseus and Achilles without the hamartia.
>>64100356
mary sue is basically how hot chicks live in real life
>instantly liked
>multiple characters fall in love for "little" reason
>selfless and/or intelligent (halo effect + actual statistics)
>living fantasies
Rocky 1, 2
>>64100356
>yfw Rey literally fits the definition down to a notch
>reddit fanboys and tumblr pc whales will still try to deny it and bend reality
It'll take a few years and half this cancer fucking off to this to be recognized.
>>64098156
Recently there was the newer Star Wars
But it's a flaw that may be easier to find on tv shows than on movies unless they are pandering.
Ended wiggin, massive Gary Stu
>>64099779
Yeah but like any Mary Sue he overcomes it with little effort. Rey was being tortured and overcame it with great ease. Mary Sue doesn't suggest invincibility or void of any challenge
>>64100229
Get fucked it places men and boys in a character they want to identify with, interesting of the bat, quick witted, classy, womanizer, great at everything with no effort, with a plush lifestyle with a girly dangerous job. Unmitigated Mary Sue
>>64100356
More and more characters are fitting that description nowadays. I don't know if it's just writers pandering to the audiences self-insertion and power fantasies or if it's a purposeful move to get rid of the "learning" phase that most protagonists go through.
I think that most modern story telling have very weak villains that do nothing of consequence which results in the heroes coming off as not being impressive.
>>64098156
James Bond.
Literal Mary Sue right down to being an author insert.
What's the difference between a Mary sure, and cheesy 80's movies where the hero always beats the bad guys?
Like Rambo, Total Recall, or even Karate Kid.
Why is it not annoying for them to be able to win so easily?
>>64100464
>hot chicks
>selfless
>intelligent
>>64102141
in their own mind they are
>>64102079
They don't win easily. Those films are about building up the character from nothing. There hardly mary sues if they get shit all over then become awesome.
>>64099037
>Suffers a lot
>Dies in the end
>Mary Sue
Nope.
Are there cases in which a Mary Sue is not only acceptable, but makes the movie more entertaining?
>>64102290
Comedies
>>64100464
except that a shockingly large percentage of hot chicks have been sexually abused in their youth, turning them into emotional cripples.
Every woman I've ever had sex with has been sexually abused as a child/teenager, including my stepdaughter.
>>64098156
Double Down
Star Wars: The Force Awakens
>>64102369
>>>/RLM/
>>64102448
Am I wrong, though?
>>64099331
No, it's pretty well established through choreography that John's an amazing gun user, making it a close combat weapon in engagements, but being forced into a sudden hand to hand situation is what leads to his fuck ups, i.e. getting thrown off a club balcony. He has an overwhelming strength, but a grounding weakness as well.
No Gary Stu.
>>64102366
I see what you did there
>>64099880
truth
>>64099880
Harry and Ron dislike her at first and she is a shitty duelist
Every MC in an Aaron Sorkin film/production