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Christmas Edition

Reminder Clara is the best NuWho companion and Donna is pigshit

Previously on /who/: >>64049416
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/who/ else here listens to The Chimes of Midnight every Christmas Eve?

It's comfy af.
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>>64068103
>No McCoy in that pic
How the fuck can you forget the best Doctor?
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>>64068157

But McGann IS in there, anon.
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FUCK YEAH IT'S CHRISTMAS
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>>64068157
very underrated /who/ meme
its simple and elegant
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Reminder no one gives a fuck about the Christmas Special.
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>>64068219
Reminder I don't even watch Christmas specials.
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>>64068143
every year. its so great.

was anyone else around in 02 when it dropped? i didnt have any mates into big finish or go to the forums back then so i dont know the general reaction then. i loved it though. sold the disc by now unfortunately, wish i hadnt as they go for quite a good price on ebay now.
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CHRISTMAS HYYPE
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>>64068249

I know Big Finish don't sell physical copies of their early releases now, but they should make a special Christmas exception for The Chimes of Midnight.

They could give it fancy packaging and include a 10min summary of Storm Warning to frame the arc stuff (Charley's death causing the house to paradox, etc.). Then it would be a self-contained brilliant Christmas audio they could market as their own "Christmas special".

Stick 40min of "behind the scenes" on there (since BF didn't do that back in 2002) of McGann, Shearman, and Fisher talking about the story, and you got yourself a lovely little physical purchase.
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>>64068294
That would make me drop $20 on it instead of the $3 it's currently at. Comfy idea anon.
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>>64068294
wow i really want that now
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Reminder of Sex Storm in a few hours

Merry Christmas /who/
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>>64068595
Go sob about getting banned some more oh so holy anon that doesn't deserve to be banned for breaking the rules like any other anon.

god you sicken me.
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>>64068762
But anon it's Christmas... don't be a meany

Take a reply break today you can carry on tomorrow.
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>>64068904
not christmas where i live. stop making things all about you. you dont need a trip. youre not cloister. all you do is spam memes.
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I just had a look at Mcgannchan's /doctorwho/ and it's so fucking dead. Why do we even ironically talk about it? It's deader then dead.
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>>64068263
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>>64069220
beautiful
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>>64069135
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>11th's regeneration

I can't deal with it. ;_;
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>>64069405
that was 2013 christmas anon. 2015 christmas is river getting the sonic
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>>64069405
yah some people shit on it but i found it very emotional. ill always remember when the doctor was me(me)
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>>64069680
whats up with the me in brackets?
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>>64069830
reference to the word meme, implying matt smith was a meme doctor

i think he was great but he was a bit of a meme doctor at times so i put the bracets and me there
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>>64069867
should have just spoilered it
I'll always remember when the doctor was meme
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>>64069920
that is better anon. good idea.

only problem is, 900 years of time travel and i've never been able to perfectly remember how to spoiler.
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>>64070101
Highlight what you want to spoiler then press Ctrl+S
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>>64070154
testing if this works

holy shit it worked, thanks f_am.
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>>64070181
It's alright anon, I'm happy to help
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>>64070248
:) Comfy christmas /who/.

anyone else quite looking forward to offseason /who/, or in other words, big finish general?
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Reminder that books
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BINGO
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>>64070464
Which of the new 12 books is the best?
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>>64070464
Deep Time was legitimately VNA dark.
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>>64070590
Definitely Deep Time

>>64070598
I mean it was pretty tame by Baxendale's standards
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>>64070662
But, it felt like a VNA book, just for Twelve.
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>>64070698
Lyndaoh

Both the VNAs I've read have been p different from each other so
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>>64070590
Haven't read them but I heard the one with Bennie was surprisingly bad. People here said the prose was unreadable. Not sure how true that was though.
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>>64068103
>unironically watching or wacky British lad show

>>>/tumblr/
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>>64070816
The tone the author was going for was different. First time I read it, I disliked it. After I reread it, with the knowledge it was a jokey affair, I found it hilarious.
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>>64070816
Unreadable is excessive but it's easily my least favorite 12 book and least favorite S9 story
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>>64071029
worse than sleep no more?
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>>64070829
>I spend my Christmas shitposting
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/who/ here hype for

THE DIARY OF RIVER SONG
SERIES 1
from
BIG FINISH (We Love Stories)

https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-diary-of-river-song-series-01-1313?range=113

I'm gonna get it for my mum's birthday in January because she loves River, but idk how good it will be. Hopefully pretty good. The New Series BF stuff has been fairly good - UNIT Extinction was good if unremarkable, Torchwood audios are seriously great, War Doctor was mediocre (IMO).
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>>64071288
I'll wait for reviews/general reaction here but I'm cautiously hopeful. I like River a lot in some eps (Library, Angels), dislike her in others (Hitler) so we'll see. She can be a great character when done well.

How was UNIT Extinction btw, I was tossing up getting that. I typically love UNIT stories but if it's just full on Osgood quirkiness and Kate "oh lord" then I'm not interested.
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>>64070590
Deep Time > The Blood Cell > The Crawling Terror > Royal Blood > Silhouette > Big Bang Generation

>>64071029
I'd probably agree with this.
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>>64071349
UNIT Extinction was surprisingly good but don't expect a masterpiece or anything. It's just highly competent sci-fi alien invasion Doctor Whoish drama.

Kate is a competent leader and doesn't do any of the shocked "oh lord" stuff once.

Osgood is not fangirly at all, to the point there's honestly a tiny bit of dissonance with the TV portrayal. Chalk it up to this being pre50th maybe. She develops a sci-fi superweapon thing.

There are 3 new UNIT characters in the audio, a colonel played by Ramon Tikaram, a young hothead (who develops quite interestingly), and a kinda boring agent type.

If you love UNIT stories then yeah you'll love it 100%, but to anyone who's not so hot on UNIT stories I'd give it a miss.
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>>64071395
worse than sleep no more?
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>>64071417
Cool I'll give it a buy then, sounds pretty much exactly what I wanted. thx for the explanation anon.
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>>64071288

I'll be buying it but only cause of McGann desu. If the McGann story is good then I'll listen to the rest.
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>>64071288
ill pirate the story with 8 and buy the whole thing if its any good. i have no strong opinion regarding river so its just up to the quality of the writing.
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>>64071421
>>64071079
answer me dammit
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>>64071494
>>64071470
>>64071438
>>64071417
>>64071349
>>64071288

literally offseason /who/ (Big Finish General) already

im not complaining;)
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>>64071421
Yes.
Sleep No More was a 4/10 in my book, so about on par with Silhouette.
Big Bang Generation was a 3/10, or maybe even a 2.
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Anyone notice 12 looks at himself in the spoon in Robot Of Sherwood? Never really noticed until now.
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You want unreadable, give Coming of the Terraphiles a look
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>>64071518
im honestly hyped for offseason big finish discussion. there's literally nowhere better for big finish discussion than here

*/r/gallifrey barely discusses it all. there's three or so posters there that post substantial thoughts on it and they're good but that's it

*big finish official forums are gone

*the new fan big finish forums (Divergent Universe) are low traffic and the posts there are never substantial

/who/ reigns supreme
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>>64071605
Why did they shut down the Big Finish forums?
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>implying /who/ won't be banned once the christmas special airs
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You ready for this christmas special?
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>>64071605
There's always ThoraxTime tbqh, we talk about BF all the damn time
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>>64071605
What about Gallifrey Base?
Not even bait, sonetimes I enjoy reading the BF section of their forum.
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>>64071502
It's not really a good comparison. Big Bang Generation has a very jokey tone, and almost requires a knowledge of Benny's audio cast to fully appreciate. Twelve is closer to his warmer S9 persona than S8, which can be disconcerting if you're not use to it. There's a whole lot of time spent on characters not called the Doctor--this is good, because it gives the audience a chance to learn about Benny's cast. Unfortunately, it didn't work completely for me (and I've read some of Benny's books, so I have more emotional connection to the characters than those who haven't.) If you've never read or heard of Benny, this is even worse, because this book is really a crossover between Benny adventurers and Doctor Who.

The book is a very "love-it-or-hate-it" book, so whether or not you'll like it is hard to tell. And the failings and strengths of that book are nothing like Sleep No More's. So it's hard to give you a comparison.

I can tel you, though, that the book features a talking hamster complaining to the Doctor that he posted her falling on her bum on Galactic Youtube. Whether or not you find that funny is the real decider if you like the book.
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>>64071718
Honestly I like going to GallifreyBase to check out the autism.
The AI/Ratings thread for Hell Bent somehow turned into an argument over why Eccleston left DW and why he didn't return in the 50th. There was also another thread on there that somehow turned into an argument over Peter Capaldi vs Planet Of The Ood. Some of the stuff there is so bad its good imo.
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Are you ready for Husbands, Sweetie?
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>>64071651
I doubt it, but we could always migrate to the Island of Misfit Generals aka /trash/.
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https://www.humblebundle.com/books/morebooks

Humble Doctor Who Audio bundle.

Lots of old Big Finish stories here if you haven't heard them already.
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someone on GB made a post saying that in america around the time the TVM aired no one knew or cared about doctor who except for geeks. which is true. someone replied to him saying it wasn't true and used the fact that 11 appeared on the cover of tv guide in 2012 to try and prove his point........ what the fuck
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>>64072194

They're getting fact mixed up with fiction.

Just because the Doctor can time travel doesn't mean that we can.
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>tfw i'm going to be busy and not on /who/ at all tomorrow
>tfw i'm going to get comfy and watch the christmas special at night while its cold with a hot cup of coco

its comfy time
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>>64072279

Merry Christmas anon. I hope you spend it with friends and family who love you.

>vlc
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>>64071905

there's also /doctorwho/ on mcgann
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>>64072298
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>>64071785
There's less autism in the sections that aren't about the TV show (you can still find some, but then again, it's the Internet). They're also slower, so it's easier to find the threads that have some quality in them.

>>64071736
I listen to the BF Benny series, but I can't say I care much for the "new" team (Ruth, Jack, teenage Peter). If it had been Jason, Bev and Adrian in the book, I might have been more interested.
Also, there are two problems I have had with all the Gary Russell books I've read so far. One, the narrator is always making digressions and infodumps. This can be amusing if used sparingly and/or for comical purposes, like, say, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. In Russell's novels, it's neither of those things: I'll never forget the bit in Placebo Effect where he introduces a new Foamasi character, infodumps his whole backstory on you and then immediately kills him off. It's incredibly annoying, not to mention lazy. Two, the plotting is shit and nothing really interesting happens until the end. Oh, and there's the fact that he always manages to use continuity references in the most annoying way possible.
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>>64068103
>Donna is pigshit
m8
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>>64072383
you can smell her coming anon
its like she doesnt take showers
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>>64072343
the TV section has so much autism

there was a thread on GB about moffat and someone was like "having read all the posts in thread i'm so glad I didn't watch the recent season" and then started complaining about it as if he's seen it. what the fuck is wrong with people.
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>>64072499

Imagine if Doctor Who fans actually liked the show.
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>>64072540
you might as well keep watching the show if you're going to complain about it still.
if I ever hated the show as much as I see people on GB do i'd just stop watching and move on.
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>>64068247
unless it's the last episode with Matt Smith cause that's kind of relevant.
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>>64072691
end of time is relevant
last christmas explains how 12 and clara got back together
you can skip the rest though if you really want to I think
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>>64072753

The Christmas Invasion is relevant.
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>>64072882
nah you dont really need donnas first story
partners in crime is better anyways
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>>64072968

It's not Donna's first story. It's Tennant's first with Rose.
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>>64072882
So are The Snowmen, The Runaway Bride and arguably The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe.
The only ones that are entirely skippable are Voyage of the Damned, The Next Doctor and A Christmas Carol.
The Husbands of River Song looks skippable so far.

>>64072968
Yes, you do. Apart from the obviouse reason (Who is this and how does the Doctor know her?) Donna's final scene in Journey's End where she turns back to how she was at the start of The Runaway Bride doesn't have the same impact otherwise.
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>>64073059
but husbands is going to be the last of river and the doctor (fuck literally everyone for spoiling that, would have been a nice surprise...)
i guess if you really hate river though
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>>64072313
which is deader than dead
we're not moving there
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>>64072343
I liked Scales of Injustice

He definitely deserves some shit for Big Bang Generation though
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>>64073096
True, but we already know the relevant bits of that meeting from Forest of the Dead. You don't really need to watch Husbands for that.
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Thirteenth Doctor a shit. Worst Doctor ever. Name one good episode in series 12.
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The Stoyn trilogy of Companion Chronicles is on sale for download by the way

It's a nice deal for Luna Romana in particular since that's a 2 disc release
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>>64073411
I like the one that was adapted out of my fanfiction.
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>>64073411
Retribution of the Daleks.
I liked the bit where the Doctor had to show her tits to Davros in order to escape.
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>>64073411

I liked the one where 13 got breast implants
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>>64073411

>implying capaldi won't still be around in series 12
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>>64073411
i thought the highway to nowhere was pretty good

>that scene where maria was raped before 13 could save her
fucking brutal.
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>>64073523

I'm glad she left and paved way for the qt shota companion
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I admit I kind of liked the one where they were mad because she was black, transgender, muslim, and disabled.
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>>64073561
Would it even be possible for the Doctor to regenerate into a disabled person? The point of regeneration is to heal your body, so by rights that shouldn't be possible. 10 even grew his hand back after the regeneration.
>inb4 that's ableist you shitlord
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>>64073602
I guess regeneration could go wrong once in a while
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>>64073602
It would heal him from an evil cisgender into a person who is more special because they have autism.
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>>64073656

The general audience wouldn't want to see that though.

Disabled people aren't disabled by choice. Given the choice, they'd prefer to be able-bodied.
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>>64073602
>Would it even be possible for the Doctor to regenerate into a disabled person? The point of regeneration is to heal your body, so by rights that shouldn't be possible.
Unless something goes wrong.

>I might never make sense again. I might have two heads, or no head. Imagine me with no head. And don't say that's an improvement. But it's a bit dodgy, this process. You never know what you're going to end up with
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Here is my Christmas gift.
Is my family patrician ?
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>>64073602
>>64073656
>>64073675
The Doctor is socially disabled, everyone is disabled in some way.
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>>64073718

Yes.

Did you get Lucie Miller along with it?
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>>64073735
No. Should I check it before ?
I'm pretty new to 8th audio stories.
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>>64073718
Only if they gave you the other NEDAS to listen to before that.
There's not much point to To the Death without the rest of Series 4. It's like watching Death in Heaven or The Parting of the Ways on their own.
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>>64073803
Oh, okay.
I might try that before then.
Thanks anon !
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>>64073799

Don't listen to To The Death then. It's the finale to the Eighth Doctor Adventures.

If you've got Blood of the Daleks, start with that.
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>>64073718
Needs moar Nicholas Briggs.
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>>64073537

fag
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>>64068103
Merry Christmas /who/res.
Best wishes to all of you.
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>>64074016

it's only fair that if the doctor is female she gets a cute boy companion
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>>64074265
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Where are you guys watching the special today?
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Does Rory remember being an auton?
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>>64074402

Yes because moffat
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>>64074391
Doctor-Who-The-Husbands-of-River-Song-720p-HDTV-x264-FoV
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>>64073863
Here's my list of "essential"NEDAs?
Blood of the Daleks, part 1
Blood of the Daleks, part 2
Horror of Glam Rock
No More Lies
Human Resources, part 1
Human Resources, part 2
Grand Theft Cosmos
The Zygon Who Fell to Earth
Sisters of the Flame (part 1)
Vengeance of Morbius (part 2)
Orbis
The Eight Truths (part 1)
Worldwide Web (part 2)
Death in Blackpool
An Earthly Child
Situation Vacant
The Book of Kells
Deimos (part 1)
The Resurrection of Mars (part 2)
Relative Dimensions
Lucie Miller (part 1)
To the Death (part 2)
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>>64074456
Dots, not dashes.
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>>64074411
But his finite human brain can't hold all the memories so he should only remember some of it.
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>>64074496

congrats on your first moffuck
people will defend rory and amy and the universe rebooting while also criticising anything moff did in S9
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>>64074391
ABC1
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what time the episode broadcasts?
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http://live.combom.co.uk/
http://live.combom.co.uk/
http://live.combom.co.uk/

you're weclome
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>>64072540
I fucking love the show (and the audios!).

>>64073718
Does anyone else think Lucie Miller / To the Death would have made a good regen story for 8? With Dark Eyes 1 the first story for 9 (pretend War never happened), before Rose?

>>64073799
To the Death is literally the grand finale, it would be like Time of the Doctor being your first Matt Smith episode. Start with series 1 of the eighth doctor adventures; blood of the daleks.
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>>64074817
>Does anyone else think Lucie Miller / To the Death would have made a good regen story for 8? With Dark Eyes 1 the first story for 9 (pretend War never happened), before Rose?

Holy fuck that's awesome.
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>>64074817
>Does anyone else think Lucie Miller / To the Death would have made a good regen story for 8? With Dark Eyes 1 the first story for 9 (pretend War never happened), before Rose?

Fucking hell that would have been GOAT
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>>64074817
>he doesn't books and comics
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>>64074817
all of my yes. just imagine eccleston in dark eyes.
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>>64074817
>Does anyone else think Lucie Miller / To the Death would have made a good regen story for 8? With Dark Eyes 1 the first story for 9 (pretend War never happened), before Rose?

>mfw this never happened
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>>64073718
>mfw got tickets for TFA as a present.
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>Melody Pond won't fuck off
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>>64073718
>They brought back the Monk 5 years ago
>BF still haven't gotten round to the War Chief yet
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>mfw my face when nobody wants to discuss UNIT Extinction with me
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>>64075433
>mfw when somebody enjoys torchwood
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>>64075457
Fuck off. The Torchwood audios are goat. The rift bleeds energy. Silence will fall.
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>>64075457
CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN
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>tfw bloody Gwen Cooper
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>mfw rat jam
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>It's a lonely / sad fat boy episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBcLv1IGcBA
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>>64075707
FOOKING LEGEND
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>mfw the Committee was behind the events of Miracle Day and have plans for Gwen and Rhys' post Miracle Day Torchwood 3 hub set up in the recent audio 'Forgotten Lives'
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Reminder that Chris Chibnall, writer of Torchwood and other Doctor Who crap, criticized Pip and Jane Baker in the 80s.
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>>64075861
Few people are as bad as Pip and Jane.
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>>64075281
>implying the Monk, the War Chief and the Master aren't the same Time Lord
In all seriousness, I like that theory. In Terror of the Autons, the Time Lords describe the Master as the Doctor's worst enemy, but it's a bit awkward because we've never seen him before. This way, we've already seen him face Hartnell and Troughton.
It also shows us a couple of incarnations of the Master before the thirteenth one seen in The Deadly Assassin, apart from Delgado.
It's a pity that pretty much every EU story ever contradicted this.
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>mfw my face when Captain Jack unearths a devious Committee with their eyes set on Gwen and Rhys' post-Miracle Day cardiff Torchwood hub
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Make just once someone happy. And you will be happy too.
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>>64075983
But if I make everyone unhappy, I'd be happier by contrast.
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>>64075983
>mfw Rhys makes Gwen happy by convincing her to re-open Torchwood
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Reminder that Pip and Jane Baker wrote Mark of the Rani, a literal 9/10 GOAT sixie story
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>>64076032

Reminder that Captain Jack is back baby
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Merry Christmas /who/res

Hopefully the special isn't cringey
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>>64076076
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>>64076032

Which master is a zinger fillet?
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>>64074545
9 in USA, 5:15 in UK
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>>64076136
Merry fishmas!
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>>64076136

I want to believe it will be silly fun
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>>64076270
Fun is prohibited!
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>>64076283

Is that why some people disliked s9?
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REMINDER THAT THE

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>>64076242
the scottish milf
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>>64076299
But S9 was in compliance with the anti-fun directive
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>>64076247
UK shouldn't get to watch it. Doctor Who is American.
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>>64076270
Same
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>>64076351

>implying the sonic sunglasses, guitar and whoodie wearing weren't pure fun
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>>64074556
Thank you, kind ser

Everyone ready to play bingo?
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>>64074817
>Does anyone else think Lucie Miller / To the Death would have made a good regen story for 8?
I'm actually going to say no, the two parter is more focused on Lucie and turning it into an '8 regenerates!' thing would cheapen that.
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>you will never see the diner again
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>>64076384

you bet your bottom we are
>>64070508
>>64070508
>>64070508
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>>64068103
Nah Clara is Trash actor is trash her personality is basic as fuck...
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>>64076396
>tfw the diner constantly turns up as a recurring setting but we only ever see Clara/Me/Jack's current fucktoy come out from behind the door to serve the customers
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>>64076396
Thank god, now I can pretend it never existed.
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>>64070508
Yes, but we should change "River's diary appears or is mentioned" to something else
It's already been mentioned to be in the ep, and even if it hadn't been mentioned it would be obvious that it'd be there

how can she fit all those decades into that tiny book?
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>>64076367
>3 cringey things

Okay let's admit it's fun. They appeared literally twice and were used as comedy elements once. Over the course of 12 episodes, that's not what people call fun.
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>>64076433
>basic
>>>/twitter/
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>>64076453
IT'S BIGGER ON THE INSIDE tm
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>>64076458
>They appeared literally twice

did you literally not watch the show? The sonic sunglasses were in almost every episode, the guitar was in at least 4 as was the whoodie

stop memeing
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>>64076396
Is this the worst idea Moffats ever had?
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>>64076482
I meant together but fine. They're still not funny.
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S9=PIGSHIT
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>>64076493
Not for very long.
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>>64076434
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>>64076506

I never said funny, I said fun
you're literally autistic if you can't find pleasure in how much genuine fun capaldi was having playing the doctor doing all those things
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>>64076396
>Diner called "Snacks and Gas"

BRAVO Moffat. I'd have prefered Chuck's Fuck and Suck myself.
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>>64076535
You're literally autistic if you have fun while watching someone else appear to have fun. Go and have some real fun, don't live through Peter. Plus, the guy probably hated every single second of every script this year.
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>Clara and Me fly off in a brothel instead of a Diner

How does this change your feeling on the ending?
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>>64076493

It's not even in the top three

Remember that time the entire universe was literally destroyed and amy wished it back into existence in its entirety despite only being aware of a small fraction of what the universe had in it?

Or the time clara went into the doctor's time stream and without fail found and defeated the great intelligence every time he tried to mess up time, and then when the doctor jumps in he says he can get back out 'because it's impossible and you're my impossible girl'?

Or the time where literally anything about the series 6 arc?


Clara getting a tardis is absolutely trivial on the scale of moffucks, you autists don't realise how bad it used to be
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>>64076608
>amy wished it back into existence in its entirety despite only being aware of a small fraction of what the universe had in it?
You didn't understand that ending, like at all.
Amy only restored her missing family members, Rory, and the Doctor.
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>>64076608
>the entire universe was literally destroyed and amy wished it back into existence
Wrong. She only wished her parents, the Doctor and the TARDIS. It was the Pandorica that contained atoms from the entire universe and created them again.
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>>64076637
>>64076647

Either way, amy wished the entire history of the doctor back into existence despite only knowing a small portion of it? And the entirety of the infinitely large tardis? It's still dumb and convoluted as fuck
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Merry Christmas /who/
Love y'all.
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Abzorbalovian culture is DISGUSTING. I hate how they fart and eat people just because. I'm glad the Abzorbaloff died by being literally melted into a green shit.
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>>64076602
It makes me wiggle.

>>64076608
The time temporal agents said the Doctor's death was a fixed point in time, a historical fact. The Doctor changed this fixed point in time by reversing a change in this fixed point in time and then faking his death. He erased himself from every database in the universe and told Dorium he had to let everyone think he was dead. Dorium then chanted "Doctor Who".
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>mfw tonight's episode will be the final episode before next Christmas
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>>64074545
7:30 Boxing day for Australia
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>>64076662
There was a whole part where they explained the crack in Amy's wall had been leaking memories of time and space into her subconscious since childhood, which is why the replica of Rory from her memories was so accurate. It's not like she knew the entire history of him or her parents either, you know.
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>there are people on /who/ RIGHT NOW who think clara getting a tardis is the worst thing moff's done out of principle despite the fact it was a well executed narrative as opposed to anything in S5, 6, and 7

absolute plebs
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>>64076753
It was completely bollocks of the narrative.
Moffat just doesn't know when to stop.
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Ood culture is DISGUSTING. I hate how they look and speak like retards just because. I'm glad all the Oods in the base died by being literally sucked into a black hole.
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>>64076753
>clara getting a tardis is the worst thing moff's done out of principle despite the fact it was a well executed narrative
>well executed narrative
Moffat please
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I found it really sad, because Jen’s a great girl and a great actress. I used to love being in the Tardis with her, we’d just have a laugh, you know?
— Peter Capaldi
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Who's watching the End of Time here?
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Zygon culture is DISGUSTING. I hate how they constantly show their teeth and kill people then wear their faces just because. I'm glad that Zygon died by being literally blown to smithereens in that plane by its own leader.
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>>64076891
>>64076798
>>64076710
This won't become a meme. I'm against it. I will leave if anyone posts one again.
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>>64076753
Please hold your horses. S5 has a fucking great arc with a beautiful ending, you plebs should really rewatch it someday.

That said, Clara running away with a TARDIS to become Doctor Two is a great ending to the story that began with Flatline. Everyone says "she should have died, it would have been a cautionary tale about how you can't be like Dr. Who!". But the thing about cautionary tales is that they are meant to caution you about reality, and the Doctor isn't fucking real. It would essentially have been a cautionary tale about why you shouldn't aspire to be a hero who saves people, which is not a very Doctor Who-like sentiment.
What does end up happening is that the Doctor does what he does, he breaks the rules and tries to find a better story for his beloved companion. He still loses her in the end, but in the process she is able to transcend into a bittersweet Doctor-like existence without him. It's really nice. In a way it really is what she deserved, both good and bad.
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>>64076859
pancakes
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>>64076917
Better put on your walking boots then m8
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>>64076891
How can we not pity folks whose only claim for fame is to repeat a phrase until it maybe catch up.
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>>64076846

They set up how the doctor acquires another tardis and provide clara and me with an opportunity to commandeer it. There's a setup and a conclusion which follows logic

Now concisely explain anything that happens in Wedding of River Song with that level of accuracy
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>>64076926
Clara's ending was good, it's just that I didn't really care anymore after the Xth fake exits she's had and forgetting her was utterly pointless.
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>>64077007
>>64076926
Oh and it wasn't necessary at all to get her killed in the first place. Moffat's gonna retcon it in his grand finale anyway.
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>>64076859
Q T
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>>64077007
>forgetting her was utterly pointless.
It was for both their sakes, if he ever tried to find her (which he would) the whole thing would just start all over again. He had become way too attached after like 1000 years of knowing her. The only way to fall out of the narrative of Doctor Who entirely is to be forgotten by the Doctor
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>>64077093
So, let's make a superimportant companion but also carefully preserve status quo from her?
What kind of bullshit is this?
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>>64076409
could be better than what it is though
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>>64068103
Who /who/-gift here?
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matt smith blacked when
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i wanna marry matt smith! :3
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>>64076409
We didn't get bingo the last time, though
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>>64077335
I got the official 2016 wall calendar
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>>64077404
i wanna marry capaldi!
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>>64077335

My cousin got some doctor who information book that was released this year as well as doctor who monopoly

I had no idea she even liked doctor who until now
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i wanna marry i dont know where i am a forest in a bottle in a spaceship in a maze matt smith blacked when

>>64077335
Igor!

>>64076740
Mate we're getting more Big Finish than ever; there will be plenty of Doctor Who to enjoy on offseason /who/ aka /bfg/ (big finish general)
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>>64077516
> offseason /who/ aka /bfg/

Have you ever actually been in off-season /who/? There isn't really much more BF discussion than during onseason.
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>>64077553
m8 ive been coming to /who/ for 3 years. there is more big finish discussion. go check the archives if you're gonna be a dipshit about it.
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>>64077606
Okay but to assert that it becomes /bfg/ is just incorrect. There's never even that much to discuss with BF given the small percentage of /who/res who actually listen to their new shit.
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i wanna marry cloister!
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i wanna marry chicky
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>>64077737

I wonder if 12's sonic actually has a red setting or all of the concept art is just out of date and the blue light was a last minute change
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>>64077737
no war?
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>>64077737
Does anyone actually like the new sonic?
They sould have gone with the tardis blue colour and make it more compact.
Plus, it doesn't spring and looks rushed.
Like they were actually forced to make it on the last second of filming.
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>>64077721
Here's the thing. You said "offseason /who/ isn't big finish general."

Is it not literally /bfg/? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a /who/ mainstay who posts daily, I am telling you, specifically, in board culture, everyone calls offseason /who/ big finish general. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "it's the same amount of BF discussion as before, just with less posters overall" you're referring to the userbase grouping of shitposters, which includes things from Friendly Neighborhood Anon's meme spamming to the idkwia poster.

So your reasoning for calling offseason /who/ not /bfg/ is because random people "don't talk about big finish in it?" Let's get OPs and new series leaks in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone /who/vians /who/res? It's not one or the other, that's not how the terminology works. They're both. A /who/vian is a /who/res and a member of the /who/ family. But that's not what you said. You said a /who/res is a /who/ user, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the /tv/ /___/res, which means you'd call star was threads, capeshit threads, and other non-BF/DW discussion too, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
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>>64077737

I still think 12's new sonic is an absolute mess of color with a very unpleasant palette
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Anon who made that screwdriver pic here

>>64077846
I don't really consider him a Doctor like the numbered ones, more an offshoot like the Watcher or Valeyard. Besides, his screwdriver is the same as the latter classic one.

>>64077844
It's confirmed to have two light settings.

>>64077857
I agree, although I don't think that was the actual case.
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>>64077857
I don't give a shit. It's sonic. It advances plot. As long as it doesn't drive me to laughter and distracts from plot, I don't care.
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>>64077857

It does have tardis blue though
What they should have really done was made it match the tardis console, not tardis blue with also gold and silver

>Like they were actually forced to make it on the last second of filming.

The funny part is it wasn't even ready when they filmed Hell Bent, they had to green screen it in
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>>64077891
>The funny part is it wasn't even ready when they filmed Hell Bent, they had to green screen it in

Source?
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>>64077891

It's literally comedic how bad the shot of it spinning in the air looks, especially since it was rotating in the opposite direction in the shot where it flings off the tardis console
and they didn't even try and make the lighting match in the shot where capaldi grabs it

>>64077904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WujaXajZ2SM
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>>64077904
From the man himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WujaXajZ2SM
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>>64077858
>everyone calls offseason /who/ big finish general
You're just making this up now
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>>64077934
Great refutal buddy. If you're so correct how come you haven't shown me proof through the archives, you fucking coward? God, trips like you set me the fuck off
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Since this season has come to an end and it's almost time for the Christmas Special, who do you think did the best directing job this time?
I'll go with based Talalay.
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>>64078027
It's no contest. Heaven Sent is literally the best directed episode of the show, ever.
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>>64077858
>Also, calling someone /who/vians /who/res? It's not one or the other, that's not how the terminology works. They're both. A /who/vian is a /who/res and a member of the /who/ family. But that's not what you said. You said a /who/res is a /who/ user, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the /tv/ /___/res, which means you'd call star was threads, capeshit threads, and other non-BF/DW discussion too, too. Which you said you don't.
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>>64078027
Hands down Talalay.
But I loved the special effects of Skaro in the premiere, the lighting on the submarine in eps 3&4, loved the whole worldwide feel of eps 7&8 and the set of Trap Street.
Worst directing job is probably The Woman Who Lived and Sleep No More.
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>>64077858
>Also, calling someone /who/vians /who/res? It's not one or the other, that's not how the terminology works. They're both. A /who/vian is a /who/res and a member of the /who/ family. But that's not what you said. You said a /who/res is a /who/ user, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the /tv/ /___/res, which means you'd call star was threads, capeshit threads, and other non-BF/DW discussion too, too. Which you said you don't.

The correct term is /who/oligan you fucking autist
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>>64078079
Sleep No More had the worst lighting job. Hard to say anything about directing when you can't see shit.
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>>64078021

The burden of proof is on the one making the claim
You are the one making the claim that everyone calls /who/ /bfg/ on the off season

>calling an anonymous post a trip

Have I fallen for some elaborate bait?
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I just want to move on from Clara's era, never see Ashildr ever again, same for the Time Lords. Just fucking give me adventures in time and space like Series 5.
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>>64078133
how fucking bad is your memory? scroll up. YOU were the one to disagree with me, YOU were the one to argue people dont call it a big finish general and discuss big finish more in it. YOU started it. I dont have to prove shit, im right, u can check the archives for years. the burden of proof is on the one making the claim. i stated a fact. you made an incorrect claim. now embarass yourself by looking for non existent proof for it
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>>64076710
>mfw the Abzorbadick
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>>64076798
>>64076891
>>64076710
Adipose culture is hot tho
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I sure hope all you faggots posting on /who/ on Christmas day instead of spending time with your families aren't expecting a good episode tonight.
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>>64078264
>le everyone lives in USA or UK meme

Fuck off.
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>>64078264
I live in Godless communist Russia and post here from workplace.
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>>64078270
HE JUST SMILED AND OFFERED ME A VEGEMITE SANDWICH
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>>64078202

I am literally a newcomer to this conversation

>YOU were the one to disagree with me
That's not how burden of proof works. YOU are the one making a claim, it's up to you to prove it, not for me to prove it wrong
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>>64078331
I do not understand how I am making a claim. I stated a fact. The other anon came into the conversation and said I was incorrect. I asked him to provide proof. He just started ranting then.

How is the burden of proof on me? I literally don't understand. The other anon is the one making claims. I just stated a literal fact that can easily be assessed by looking through the archives, which NOBODY HERE HAS DONE - gee, I wonder why?
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happy Christmas /who/ <3 you silly bitches and I hope 2016 is wonderful for each and everyone of you and yours.
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>we're finally moving on from Clara's era
>we're never seeing Ashildr or the Time Lords before a long time
>this is Series 5.2

YES YES

>we're not getting it before 2017

Fuck off.
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>>64078383
It's slowing down a bit now, will update after dinner.
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>>64078383
i wanna marry you and belle!!
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>>64078383
cheers cloister.

can u confirm - since you're a mainstay here - that offseason /who/ discusses big finish more?
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>>64077858
>Also, calling someone /who/vians /who/res? It's not one or the other, that's not how the terminology works. They're both. A /who/vian is a /who/res and a member of the /who/ family. But that's not what you said. You said a /who/res is a /who/ user, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the /tv/ /___/res, which means you'd call star was threads, capeshit threads, and other non-BF/DW discussion too, too. Which you said you don't.
You like Doctor Who, you're here, you're a /who/re. It's specific to posters in these generals.

>>64078027
Is this even a question? There's no contest.

>>64078093
No. It's not.
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>>64078204
Anyone wants to stream Essential Maisiecore The Falling later?
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>>64078383
Fuck off.
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>>64078402
OK!
>>64078403
Sounds good, we'll have to become Mormon, and maybe a little gay first though.
>>64078421
Yes. There's generally more discussion of BF and EU stuff. Ideally for me personally I'd like to see the book club reemerge even though it petered out there at the end.
>>64078481
Merry Christmas Anon.
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what time is the special?
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>>64078506
Do you listen to much BF these days Cloister? Was it you a few threads back I gently lowered the expectations of the War Doc audios for, or was that someone else? Can't remember.

Also IIRC you said Belle was sick or in hospital recently, hope you'll all have a good Christmas regardless.
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>>64078543
5:15
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>>64078557
Is it today?
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>>64078557
Yes, but what time is it now? Is it GMT?
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>>64078594
2:25
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>>64078568
OF COURSH!
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>>64078568
No, it was last June.
Please, try to keep up.
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>>64078365

Stating that everyone calls /who/ /bfg/ is just a claim until you solidify it with proof, at which point it becomes a fact
you have not provided any proof, hence it is merely a claim

I'm still waiting for the point where you do a 180 and triumphantly shout 'you've been memed on'
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>>64078626
Sweet, I've been asking for weeks and nobody answered! Thank you based Bane.
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I swear. If you come in here and say you've enjoyed the episode while saying beforehand it would be shit, I WILL CLOSE /WHO/ FOR GOOD
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>>64078568
Stop it with this meme.
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>>64078556
I haven't listened to anything since before the summer, possibly longer. Yes, you tempered my expectations of the war doc audios, but confirmed that the torchwood ones are pretty goat. I'll be picking them up in January. She was she's out now and doing well thank you, cleaning up my unwrapping mess atm, I'll take her out on a carriage ride later I think.
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What day is the christmas special?
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>>64078639
Dude he literally called you a trip for no reason earlier and literally pasted a reddit copypasta at you. Why are you still replying. It was a meme from the start.

>inb4 another long pasta attacking you
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>>64078365
I've looked through the archives, you're wrong.
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>>64078685
>literally pasted a reddit copypasta at you

excuse my ignorance for not knowing reddit copypastas
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>>64078678
Cool sounds good, hope you enjoy the Torchwood ones (the cast sound so happy to be back, the joy is infectious). All sounds good. Happy Christmas!
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>>64078662
Evie, Please be reasonable. It's christmas, didn't an hiro get you a new mop bucket and cleaning supplies for christmas?
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>>64078679
34 Celsius
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>>64078626
>>64078633

Now I'm confused, is the Christmas special on Christmas or last June?
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>>64078715
Fuck off Jacob.
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This is the only /who/ approved christmas song

you must keep it on repeat for the entirety of christmas day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4BTYiy0Qi4
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>>64078740
But Christmas is in June.
Aren't you in Australia?
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>>64078715
Fook off
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>>64078679
Delta Five Slash Acorn Gamma by Eight Light Years
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>>64078693
then show the proof you mong. oh wait ytou cant. NOBODY HERE HAS SHOWN ME ANY PROOF FOR A VERY OBVIOUS REASON, HMMM WHAT COULD IT BE

>>64078639
My original claim was that offseason who was "basically" big finish general. You distorted this into some reddit-tier claim we literally changed the subject line to /bfg/. I'm not going to engage with your trolling anymore. Either go through the archives over a months worth of offseries /who/ to prove to us that it has less big finish discussion, or fuck off.
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>>64078679
Easter.
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>>64078761
>you must keep it on repeat for the entirety of christmas day
How very Black Mirror
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>>64078761
I fucking HATE this song.
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http://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/20151225051500pm/w4740/1/DW_Xmas_2015

Now fuck off you bastards
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>>64078796
I'm not going through the archives again. It's up to you now to prove me wrong.
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>>64078796

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/%2Fbfg%2F/
>219 results

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/%2Fwho%2F/
>Returning only first 5000 of 1529959 results found.

you lose
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>>64078843
the fact that was the only point you replied to out of my whole post shows youre literally ignoring whenever i prove something you said wrong. you are trolling and derailing the thread. i wont reply to you anymore.

to anyone who claims im giving up or whatever, notice he has not provided a single shred of proof and consistently backpedals when i provide some. this isnt a vague matter, anyone can look through the archives to find the truth. ill cease replying to this idiot or troll presently.
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>>64078883
im assuming youre a different poster than the other guy so ill reply to you (last time though)

Are you fucking damaged? My argument was OFFSEASON WHO HAS MORE BIG FINISH DISCUSSION. Scroll up. NOT A LITERAL USE OF THE WORD /BFG/, THAT IS WHAT I WAS ARGUING WITH OTHER ANON FOR DISTORING MY POINTS INTO.

fucking idiots; how can someone even watch a show like doctor who if they dont understand how to take a statement anything other than purely literally.
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