This scene is still better than TFA … honestly, Phạm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZigWFyK2o
>>64054476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchA-lwqrPw
This will always be my favorite space battle scene.
Thoughts on Lando as a general?
>>64054476
That was a fucking awesome thread yesterday. GOAT space battle
>>64055397
What video game is this from?
>>64055546
The one after the pod racer remake. Im still fucking waiting lucas arts!
I don't mind smaller scale battles, TFA does those fine. Of course it's ruined by having Death Star #3.
It's nice to see capital ships, though.
>>64055546
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. Easiest video game in history, you just press the play button then watch all of the computer graphics.
>>64055621
TFA doesn't really do those fine. It only has X-wings and fighters. The first order should have at least had some interceptors
>>64055673
Yeah that pissed me off, even ANH had at least X and Y wings.
>>64055470
A+ choice.
proven track record, just dont let him make any deals
It's a trap!
They made the Death Star look massive compared to Star Killer Base, which looks tiny in the film.
>>64055982
I feel like Y wings always get a bad rap because they all get killed at Yavin(except for one guy apparently, who the hell was he?). But they serve a different purpose than X wings do.
>>64056237
>Intensify the shield generators! Nothing can come through!
>Too late!
>AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
Based. And it's impressive how a scene from 1983 is better than "Starkiller base" fight that consists of... 4 minutes with a anti-climatic ending.
>>64056306
I never saw Star base as something huuuge.
>>64054476
Great score.
>>64056487
>I never saw Star base as something huuuge
see the image in the OP?
Starkiller Base is supposed to be roughly the size of the planet in the background or something retarded like that. A++ writing JJ, I guess the next movie will have a Death Star the size of a sun since that would obviously be even cooler and completely plausible
>>64056613
It doesnt help any JJ shot the base like Rey, the gyroweakshit and the sheilds were all in the same 100 foot space. Nigger has no sense of scale.
>>64056306
also when the Death Star blows in New Hope, even in Return of the Jedi, it feels like something huge has happened. The Star Killer Base is bigger than both but when it blows up there is barely anything to it, no emotional component to it, just shit fucking exploding
>>64056423
That guy had to lend his X-wing to Luke, and was the player character from the X-wing game, so he was too good.
Also, Y-wings did good shit in battle of endor, one guy iced a pair of interceptors even
>>64055487
Agreed on both counts.
>using the Death Star laser to destroy a starship
Its like using a atom bomb to take out a tank.
>>64057398
Sheev loves some unlimited power
>>64054476
>People complaining about Rey with no lightsaber training able to take on Kylo Ren
>Lando is able to fly into battle with the Millennium Falcon, the Rebellion just lets him lead the attack team on the Death Star, even though he has been nothing but the Mayor of Cloud City for years
>>64057459
nevar forgat the Battle of Taanab
>>64057459
Millennium Falcon was originally Lando's ship.
>>64057459
falcon was originally his ship, and prominent figures of the resistance made it clear he can do it
>>64057459
>Getting btfo so hard by already established lore from the decades old OT
rip my mane
>>64056423
<3
>>64055546
Star Wars Kinect
>>64054476
God the entire ending with the pilots going to destroy the Starkiller was so fucking bad.
Not even the most brown-nosed TFA defenders have really had anything good to say about it. Really JJ? An even bigger death star?? You couldn't come up with anything more interesting than that?
And it never felt threatening...there was no tension that the starkiller was gonna destroy the rebellion (im not calling them the resistance)
>>64057633
>>64057563
>>64057518
>But the Millenium Falcon was Lando's ship, so there!
I fucking know this, are any of you older than 15? The guy was Cloud City mayor for years, they are not going to let a guy who has not flown for years LEAD THE FUCKING REBEL ATTACK on the Deathstar 2, and a space mayor is not going to have the skills at the level he had when he was flying the ship to take it into an assault.
>>64054476
why the fuck were there no A-Wings, B-Wings, Y-Wing, Tie Interceptors, Tie Bombers, etc? Like only X-Wings and normal Tie fighters? Fucking why? There were plenty of callbacks to the originals that your less hardcore fan wouldn't recognize either.
>>64057730
>>64057459
There were months, if not years between Episodes V & VI. Lando became a damn general in the rebellion....
Rey beating Kylo wasn't too bad because Rey looked like shit for 60% of the fight and it was more that Kylo was just a dumbass who bit off more than he could chew.
>>64057861
The TFA artbook shows there was going to be new fighters early on, must have been cut for time.
>>64058024
>J-wing
>JUST-Wing
CERAMICS
>>64057861
It was the resistance a smaller practically millitia level group
>>64058024
How would Star Wars know what an albhabet is?
How do they know the names of the letters?
They teach English in galaxies far away?
Was The British Empire really that far reaching?
Plothole?
>>64058078
What the fuck was the first order? Were they just operating in the outer rim?
Why didn't the Republic see them as a threat, but supported a resistance movement?
What the fuck is their goal? Why is the main general an autistic ginger fuck? Why does anyone tolerate Kylo Ren destroying millions in equipment to have a tempur tantrum?
The first order never felt threatening. It felt like a bunch of Weebs cosplaying as the Empire. The Empire had structure, it had control, and they were a well oiled machine. The First Order is a fucking joke.
>>64058078
Is this the shit they explain in that Aftermath book everybody hated?
>>64058224
The empire hadunlimited powaaaaa
Woah hold on, still haven't seen TFA. Is there nothing but X-wings and TIE fighters? Not even some A-wings at least?
>>64058224
Also the resistance is backed by the Republic but is somehow worse off and in poorer shape than the actual Rebellion 30 years before. It only has X-Wings and no capital ships at all.
In the OT the production team actually put some thought into how the Empire and Alliance would look like and how they worked (even if only superficially), literally no such thought has gone into TFA.
>>64058550
>Is there nothing but X-wings and TIE fighters?
I'm afraid so for fighters. Other than there's a new Tyderian shuttle that takes the obsurdity of pointless wings and emphasizes them while lising the center one
>>64058561
there was plenty of thought put into it.
Nazis retiring to Argentina my man :)
>>64054476
>Just reminded me how awesome this scene was
why do people hate on ROTJ again?
I counted 7 ships.
Star Destroyer
Millennium Falcon
Han's Large Cargo Ship
Leia's APC
TIE Fighter (unsure which type, but only a single type)
X Wing
Kylo Ren's Shuttle
>>64058730
If you ask anybody why they hate RoTJ they were say "muh ewoks" literally 90% and not elaborate any more.
>>64058772
Not to mention THE QUAD JUMPAH!
>>64058772
There was a first order APC as well iirc wasnt there? Still a useless amount.
>>64058782
Well there's one more reason.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4
>>64054476
but A-wings can't melt Executor bridges
>>64058870
>the never even flies jumper
So technically 9 including >>64058872
Jack shit for fighters or capital ships, and a grand total of one land speeder.
>>64058942
that song is dope just close your eyes.
>>64058942
that's some special edition bullshit though
>>64055546
The Rise of Sheev
>>64054476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akZFKKYqsAQ
Funnily enough the second best space battle ever put on film was made by a tiny Finnish group on their home computers. Shame the rest of their movie was so terrible.
>>64057856
A mayor is actually a leadership job with a ton of human management, not unlike a general in the army. Leadership is paramount in any battle. Cesar was both a general and a senator if you need a historical example.
>>64057856
Baron Administrator. Much cooler title.
>>64058942
I used to get a stiffy from thinking of that slave Twi'lek girl getting chomped on.
Probably what led to my guro and vore fetish desu
>that was two clues
what did lando mean by this?
Why didn't Lando feel forced but Finn died?
Lando was based as fuck, he couldn't do shit about Vader + Empire coming to his cloud city. If he hadn't given them up they would've blown it out of the sky.
>>64055470
I can never get over those cheesy capes he wears, though.
>>64060649
Because he's Black Han and Han is already cool, so two Hans isn't hard to digest.
>>64060692
He's mayor and general, practically space royalty.
>>64060016
>Baron Administrator
That's exactly the kind of title that deserves a cape
>>64060692
black people though
lando is badass
Is there a better co-pilot than Nien Nunb?
>>64061470
heh heh heh heh
what did he mean by this?
>>64061470
Chewbacca
>>64054476
2:09 - 2:13 better than anything in TFA
>>64061583
would rather have Nien's morale boosting chuckles.
>>64061637
them wookiee battle cries and roars tho mang
>>64058676
There's quite a few new ships, but nothing real Iconic and fun. I do love the Resurgent Class Star Destroyer tho, looks mean as fuck.
>>64054476
great cinematography and choreography
1980s
WTF?
>>64054476
Damn that Millennium Falcon looks so much better than the CGI one in force awakens.
>>64061690
han and chewie been together for 30+ years and han never tried the crossbow gun, bravo jarjar
>>64054476
>I'm already on my way out
Wedge 10/10
>>64061702
why? looks same to me
nostalgia goggles are real
>>64054476
Everything about this was perfect. The stakes, the music, the special effects. Based Wedge blowing the fuck out of everything
Everything about those scenes OP posted grab you by the nuts.
TFA was so fucking empty compared to that.
>>64061739
>not taking your best buddy out shooting
bravo indeed
>>64057459
>>Lando is able to fly into battle with the Millennium Falcon, the Rebellion just lets him lead the attack team on the Death Star, even though he has been nothing but the Mayor of Cloud City for years
It happens for a few reasons.
1. There are 3+ years in between Episodes V and VI, so it's not like Lando just shows up and is immediately promoted to general.
2. Lando won a few major battles for the Rebels, allowing him to climb up the ranks quickly.
3. A huge chunk of the Rebel forces were destroyed in between Episodes IV and V, it's reasonable to assume that they lost a lot of commanding officers.
4. The Rebels aren't exactly the most organized outfit to begin with, it seems like people rise up the ranks really quickly ("General Solo", "Commander Skywalker", etc.).
5. Nepotism. Lando is buddies with the leader of the Rebellion and the the most famous pilot in the Rebellion.
>>64061739
I always took that as Chewie building a newer bowcaster.
>>64055397
the battle for coruscant was pretty based tbhfam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT7vD8uAGEQ
>>64061971
probably the best "shot" scene in the entire prequel trilogy
>>64054476
That quick shot of the huge core exploding as the Falcon escapes back into a tunnel is so great. Everything is the OT feels immense while the universe in TFA feels tiny and claustrophobic.
>>64055397
What song plays when Grievous' ship gets pulled towards Coruscant?
>>64054476
How the fuck did the orange lady get Luke's lightsaber? That shit fell down Cloud city. Does she have Luke's hand? Will Luuke appear? Is Snoke, Palpatine possessing Luuke?
>>64061951
>There are 3+ years in between Episodes V and VI, so it's not like Lando just shows up and is immediately pro
What?? I thought it was 0 years. They waited 3 fucking years to rescue Han?
>>64062105
There is no way it is possible
JJ is a hack and doesn't care
>>64061775
CGI spaceships almost always look cartoony and terrible. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
When Ackbar says "its a trap" and they pan the camera, theres like 200 Star Destroyers in the field
how the fuck did the rebels win with half a dozen X-wings
>>64062120
You need to be actually be trained longer than 3 years to be a Jedi anyway
>>64062175
did you not hear him say, may the force be with us?
>>64057906
>Rey beating Kylo wasn't too bad because Rey looked like shit for 60% of the fight and it was more that Kylo was just a dumbass who bit off more than he could chew.
This. Kylo is *supposed* to be a bad tempered teenage Vader fanboy and lightsaber dueling n00b to boot. Rey on the other hand had at least some experience with stick-shaped weapons and a strong affiliation with the force - it makes perfect sense that she's able to beat him and yet people use that fight as example for their mary-sue argument.
If you don't like women to be the hero just fucking say it, guys - don't try to construct a "logical" argument after the fact.
>>64054476
INTENSIFY FORWARD FIREPOWER
Did you ever notice the guy sitting behind Lando?
How long is his Wookieepedia page?
>>64062175
it's pretty fucking obvious that the death star's explosion took them all with it. none of them knew the station was about to explode.
>>64057856
Please end your life. How do u know he doesnt fly ships in his spare time? Maybe his schedule in his little book is do some admin work in the morning, have a quick tea, then in the evening pilot around the planet. oh, you read his schedule? are you landa's secretary? you probably are because you sound like a woman lol ;)
>>64054476
The directing is better too. The shots are all steady and fluid. There's no shaky cam bullshit.
>>64055982
It's funny because y wings were made specifically for thst kind of mission
But Abrams is a hack who makes banal bland battles
>>64062289
so you're telling me the death star explosion destroyed multiple dozens of star destroyers which where scattered all over place, but not the rebel fighters literally flying inches ahead of the blast zone trying to escape....
>>64054476
>Starkiller base
>by all accounts should be more terrifying than the Death Star
>nobody really cares when it wipes out five planets at once (five REPUBLIC planets no less)
>has a weak spot the size of the goddamn death star proving the New Order hasn't learned shit from its predecessors
>protected by a tiny fleet of tie fighters
>Star Destroyer type battleship they kept teasing never shows up
>meanwhile the incomplete Death Star manages to be more terrifying and well defended
When Sheev reveals the Death Star was actually operational and starts short stroking that beam onto the Rebels' fleet I thought it was goddamn incredible/terrifying. Both the first and second Death Star felt so central and imposing whenever it was shown. Starkiller base felt like an afterthought.
>>64062515
Starkiller was shit and the entire first order seems to be the rejects of the Empire. Poor Tarkin is spinning in his space grave.
>>64060735
>He's mayor
His actual title was 'Baron Administrator of Cloud City'
>>64054476
>Star Killer is revealed
>The Resistance comes up with a plan to destroy it in a meeting that barely lasted five minutes.
Holy shit, that's how irrelevant these once fearsome fortress of doom have become.
>>64062120
>What?? I thought it was 0 years. They waited 3 fucking years to rescue Han?
Yes. Crazy, right? You could argue that they were kind of busy fighting a rebellion, they obviously made incredible progress in between Episode V and Episode VI (went from being on the verge of annihilation to being so powerful that the Empire knew where their fleet was but couldn't touch it). And Jabba the Hutt is pretty powerful, I think it's mentioned that he controls more than just Tatooine. Plus Luke had to become a better Jedi to pull off the rescue. Imagine if Episode V Luke had walked into Jabba's palace, he probably wouldn't have even made it past those two guards at the doorway. And he had to build a new lightsaber.....
....or maybe they just really didn't like Han all that much.
>>64062120
1 year. 3 years was between ANH and ESB.
>>64061951
While I don't give a fuck about this, I can't let this stand: Lando spend those THREE YEARS wearing a stinky pig mask, standing in some dark corner of Jabba's palace holding a stick.
Then again, it's not like ranks and titles mean much in a rag-tag outfit like the Alliance...I mean, I remember like twenty generals, and zero captains from the OT. They probably make you a general just for joining up.
>>64062105
we'll never get an explanation, and that's a good thing, because
1. it doesn't really matter
2. NO MORE MAZ KANATA IN EP 8 & 9!
>>64062205
Ackbar is a Mary Sue
>>64062380
>The Motion Sickness Awakens
VERY MUCH THIS.
>>64062964
theyll make a one off movie starring maz. how she got the sabre
it ends with her placing it in the box
>>64062585
>Death Star
>many bothans died to get information about a tiny almost impossible shot to kill the station
>they have a chance but it's a very slight one
>Death Star 2
>actually protected by a ground shield and massive armada, still making the situation dire
>Empire actually learned something and leaked false information to the Rebels to lure them in
>the Death Star itself comes to life and defends itself with its own superweapon
>Starkiller Base
>even the lowest most rank and file grunts (Fin) are apparently privy to the giant glaring weak spot on their superweapon
>New Order hasn't learned shit and have managed to build a weak spot that is the size of a small country
>go even further by barely defending it
How the fuck do you go and create something five times larger and somehow manage to make it ten times more disappointing.
>>64063029
She's the new Jar Jar, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we never see her again. Apparently, even Abrams and the actress herself hate the character. As they should!
>>64063080
I didn't think about it until just now, but the Rebel fleet above Endor only survived as long as they did because despite being completely outgunned by the Star Destroyers, super close combat made it impossible for the Death Star to shoot at them without taking out their own guys.
There were actual tactics at work there and that's neat.
>>64063085
>Apparently, even Abrams and the actress herself hate the character. As they should!
source?
>>64063163
i wondered why they didnt cozy up to the death star itself.
too many turbolasers from the surface? trusting the emperor to not fire on his own men, was a huge risk
>>64063284
Turbolasers probably. Plus I doubt their Capital ships were fast enough to get close to the Death Star before the superlaser killed them.
I'm sure it was a huge risk but it was probably the only chance they had.
>>64055621
>TFA does those fine
Every single one was exactly the same. Stormtroopers shooting with sand and rubble as the backdrop. Stormtroopers shooting with a docking bay and crates as the backdrop. Stormtroopers shooting with grass and rubble as the backdrop. Same angle every time, no focus, just a load of shit splattered all over the screen.
Every single scene was so boring to look at.
>>64056613
Just like his Star Trek movies. The bigger and blacker the enemy spaceship, the better.
>>64062996
Lobster Stew
>>64063080
Bothans stole the Death Star 2 plans. It's never revealed precisely how they got the plans for the first one.
>>64063761
>Every single scene was so boring to look at.
I still tell people, to this day, that my single favorite shot in cinema is the Falcon shooting out of the exploding Death Star II. It's a perfectly kinetic shot, and I could watch it loop all day long.
>>64057459
>>64064175
You're right I got that switched around. Hopefully Rogue One does a decent job of it.
Outside of Godzilla I can't say I'm too familiar with Gareth Edwards.
>>64064557
i liked the godzilla scenes, but the human stories sucked for shit esp the military son and his wife
>>64054476
>B-Wings, A-Wings, X-Wings, Y-Wings, Capital ships and their escorts
Now this is what I'm talking about.
>>64061951
No, it's one year.
>>64064620
TFA was severely lacking in variety, but more importantly does anyone have a picture of the qt3.14 asian resistance pilot?
>>64064620
Was there a video game that you piloted a B Wing? Is it rogue squadron? I have very faint memories
Goofy ass ship but i loved it as a kid.
>>64064839
X-wing vs.TIE Fighter's expansion Balance of Power let you fly the B-wing if I remember right.
>>64064839
>>64064878
Rogue Squadron also let you fly a B-Wing. Thing was unwieldy to fly iirc. It's attack mode made it a huge target and it felt slower than a Y-wing. Neat design though. I like the idea of the entire ship rotating around the cockpit.
>>64064878
god yes. please remake x-wing for oculus
>>64064369
It does the exact same thing as the prequels. Sensory overload, jamming as much on the screen as possible. The original trilogy smartly keeps the focus on a handful of ships or characters at most. The camera is kept steady, and everything that happens is clear to see. Even in larger space battles like the one in the OP, you're often only following a single ship.
In TFA every action scene has dozens of stormtroopers scattered all over the place. It's dogfights are filmed as though by someone on the ground. Ships constantly zip in and our of frame. The camera often feels like it's been set on a paint shaker. At least, until the aeriel combat is over, at which point it suddenly steadies. It's annoying because the combat is precisely when I'd like a stead shot so I can see what the hell is going on. That bullshit snap zoom on the Falcon during Rey's first flight was especially awful.
>>64064955
I played at this arcade this star wars pod game, and it was the most immersive game ever. I felt like i was in the battles. Actually was a bit scary. Look it up
>>64064955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWlH-C76lKI
someone is
>>64064771
It's the actress who plays Nymeria Sand on Game of Thrones
>>64065135
pod racing? was it in 3d?
>>64065223
I think he's talking about the "Star Wars Battle Pod" arcade machine.
>>64065311
okay. cool as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZgvcAzCesg
>>64065408
rails
>>64063085
she looks like a minion.
>>64066584
this is the original Maz Kanata
Make aliens look like Minions
Make the protagonist a feminist
Make the sidekick a Black Lives Matter activist
Make the antagonist an Emo
Include flackering lights (get me JJ Abrams), fast cuts, big explosions, big monsters, childish dialogue and screaming
Make a lot of money
>Disney logic
>>64063085
It was pretty bizarre that they hired some beautiful african model chick to play some weird little yellow imp
>>64066853
the tipping awakens
>>64066889
>beautiful african model chick
i've seen way hotter, bruh
>>64067462
She sounds pleasant and is at least ok looking
>>64056423
This is interesting. I guess you could say that 'my' Star Wars was always more the games than the films. When I was growing up they were fantastic movies but very distinctly belonged to another generation, no matter how many toys Lucas tried to sell me The games on the other hand were a staple. As a result, when you ask me 'what do I think of the Y-wing' I don't go 'they all got wiped out attacking the Death Star' as much as I do think about the slow but powerful bomber that will survive just about anything as long as you don't try to play at dogfighting in it.
I just think it's fascinating how different a perspective people can have on the same setting.
>>64056423
>But they serve a different purpose than X wings do
>we have to do a bombing run on the starkiller
>nothing but x wings
Y wings had a hard life
>>64058772
There's actually two TIE fighters. One's the SF fighter, which Poe and black guy stole. It has the gunner position and it's a little different on the outside.
>>64056858
it wasn't even a cool explosion
>>64071167
>Star re-emerging out of all that energy
>not cool
get the fuck out
>>64054476
>1:12
Chills every time
rainbow-leader standing by
>>64060692
He makes it work
>>64057459
>>Lando is able to fly into battle with the Millennium Falcon, the Rebellion just lets him lead the attack team on the Death Star, even though he has been nothing but the Mayor of Cloud City for years
The Falcon was his before it was Hans you moron.
>>64055397
>infinite boundaries of space
>spaceships fight meters away from each other
BRAVO GEORGE
>>64054476
Why are they still using CGI in TFA, if all of the best Star Wars moments use models and great Classically trained actors?
Maybe they should let some of their computer junkies go.
>>64071961
CG use is minimal
Did you even see the movie?
