what could of been...
yeah they were trash
jaina and mara are qt tho
>>64021633
MR. SKYWALKER WELCOME BACK
>>64021633
>could of
Kill you're self
>yfw that rat on the left is literally R2-D2 after he almost got blown up and luke transferred his consciousness into that body.
That's the EU for you
>>64021766
someone shop Benicio Del Toro to see what he would look like as Thrawn
I hope that's what they plan on doing
>>64021633
>we'll never have to sit through EU autism on the big screen
thank you god
>>64021805
What the fuck????? People actually enjoyed this shit?
>>64021805
>R2-D2
>consciousness
lol what the fuck
Vong were a pretty good idea but they don't work tonally for Star Wars. The threat has to be something domestic.
>>64021893
did you know there was also an evil clone of Luke called Luuke?
the EU sure was great
>>64021805
That's fucking hilarious
Is the EU "bad" in a campy fun way? I never looked into it much and it might be stupid to start now that it's officially trashed, but I've always been curious.
>>64021633>>64021633
>Could of
Cut off your own testicles
>Yuuzhan Vong
90s edge incarnate.
>>64022067
That didn't actually happen.
As for somebody who wasted a ton of time with the EU in mid-late 00's, it's pretty unanimous that 90% of it is garbage. I particularly enjoyed Zahn's five Thrawn-related books and I,Jedi.
In a way, I also mostly enjoyed the Yuuzhan Vong stuff. It's 19 volumes and only one (Traitor) is an outstanding read. It gave a lot of time to world-building and character development for people like Ganner Rhysode, which is an example of an original EU character that isn't absolute garbage.
Rambling aside, I think it's worth it to checkout the unanimously praised few.
>>64022019
better than this kike shit Disney is pushing.
>>64021633
>Luke didn't become a little bitch who ran away crying because things got hard
Ruining Luke is why Jew Jew and Kasdan should be publicly executed.
>>64021821
Found this via google
>>64024753
not bad tb.h, would look almost perfect if he was shaved though
>>64023296
The Ganner
>a motherfucker so badass he guards the gates to Yuzong Vong Hell
>New Jedi Order
Fuck that, and fuck you OP.
Steaming shit series, and the sole reason that Disney decided to throw out the old EU entirely.
>>64021633
Superior lore and plot coming through.
>>64021633
>could of
Proof that people who cry about TFA are uneducated plebian neet manchildren.
>>64024933
Oh come on, it wasn't that bad.
>>64021633
NJO sucked. It's what killed Star Wars for me by completely invalidating the original films.
Ultimately it was worse than the prequels.
>>64024945
Warhammer 40k is fucking stupid and its fans are no different from furries.
>>64024945
How did the Star Wars senpai defeat these Tyranids?
>>64025083
It wasn't that bad.
>>64025115
>Normie spotted
>>64025115
>Comparing those that would purge furries from existence to furries
>>64025142
Yes it was. It indirectly turned the original films on their heads. It is impossible to read the NJO and not realize that had the rebels lost the war, that the Empire could have defeated the Vong with ease and saved TRILLIONS of lives.
The struggles of our heroes in the films... were all for naught. Their Republic would collapse even within their own lifetimes.
That's why the NJO was bad.
>>64025201
>Yuuzhan Vong
Translates to "Kill yourself"
>>64025240
STOP SAVING THUMBNAILS, FUCK!
>>64025052
>>64025142
>It wasn't that bad! It wasn't that bad! Really! It was an okay series!
>>64025262
Forgive me senpai
>>64025240
>40K fans
Why did I expect anything else?
>>64025201
Killing all the furries would remove half of 40k's fanbase. Maybe even more than that.
>mfw assblasted furniggers who bring up furries whenever anyone says anything about 40k
>>64025126
40k realized you could never defeat something of that magnitude. SW writers probably ended it with Luke firing a Force Spirit Bomb at the leader and ended the war.
>>64025458
Sheev would have beaten them
>>64024933
Fuck right off.
Why do people keep perpetuating this meme?
I'm assuming you fuckers never read the books because you're lazy illiterate fucks.
>>64024945
>lore
>plot
anything other than the tabletop game is trash tbhfam. and only 2-5 edition
>>64021633
The Vong were stupid edgelord Games Workshop rejects.
>>64025704
If I hadn't read the books, how would I know how terrible they were and how deeply against SW they went?
>Guess what guys, Sheev actually WAS doing everything for the Greater Good! If the Rebels hadn't ruined everything 400,000,000,000,000 people wouldn't have died!
Fuck that, fuck you.
>>64021633
>Leia still hot
kek
>mouse jedi
>Yuuzhan Vong
>>64025869
This was fan speculation at the time and never stated. NJO had some good stuff and introduced the idea of a variegate Force, which simple-minded manchildren couldn't process so Lucasbooks cane out with the abortion that was Legacy of the Force.
NJO also had Wedge solo-pilot the giant phallic imagery of a Super Star Destroyer into the moist cunt of a YV worldship like the classy gentleman he is
>>64021805
My sides have become one with the force.
>>64025296
>>64025238
>It is impossible to read the NJO and not realize that had the rebels lost the war, that the Empire could have defeated the Vong with ease and saved TRILLIONS of lives.
This is just pure speculation. Nobody knows if the Empire would have been able to hold off the Yuuzhan Vong. Anytime it is addressed that Sheev knew about the intergalactic threat, it is never made clear whether the Empire would have been anymore successful.
If anything, the theory that Sheev could have done it is discredited by the fact that it was only because of Jacen that the war was really one and the Yuuzhan Vong were stopped. Sheev winning equals no Jacen, no Jacen equals no victory. The Empire might have have been able to save some lives, but most likely, the Yuuzhan Vong would win or the galaxy would just be divided between them and the Empire.
So no, the struggles of our heroes weren't for naught because a galaxy where the only superpowers are the Sith and the Vong would have been an awful end.
The NJO merely introduce th idea that maybe some of the temporal losses in the Yuuzhan Vong war could have been prevented by way of the Imperial power and control, but this doesn't mean that Imperial power and control under Sheev was in anyway desirable or "good" and one can make the argument that while the immediate temporal losses were greater without the Empire at full strength, our heroes still had the greater victory in the long run since the Yuuzhan Vong were stopped once and for all, which Sheev would never have been able to achieve.
>>64023296
>As for somebody who wasted a ton of time with the EU in mid-late 00's, it's pretty unanimous that 90% of it is garbage. I particularly enjoyed Zahn's five Thrawn-related books and I,Jedi.
>In a way, I also mostly enjoyed the Yuuzhan Vong stuff. It's 19 volumes and only one (Traitor) is an outstanding read. It gave a lot of time to world-building and character development for people like Ganner Rhysode, which is an example of an original EU character that isn't absolute garbage.
Most of the post-Episode VI EU is just plain awful, the only exceptions are Thrawn and some of the NJO stuff. Legacy of the Force had potential, but you could tell that the authors all had their own vision for how they wanted things to play out and it turned into a jumbled mess. Especially that one author who was just obsessed with Mandalorians, he ruined everything by sticking a Boba Fett biography right in the middle of the series for no apparent reason.
Some of the pre-Episode VI EU is actually kind of decent, I thought the Darth Bane books were great.
>>64025238
>Yes it was. It indirectly turned the original films on their heads. It is impossible to read the NJO and not realize that had the rebels lost the war, that the Empire could have defeated the Vong with ease and saved TRILLIONS of lives.
Nope. They directly address this in one of the books, some Imperial officer suggests what you're saying and Han shuts him down:
"What the Empire would have done was build a super-colossal Yuuzhan Vong–killing battle machine. They would have called it the Nova Colossus or the Galaxy Destructor or the Nostril of Palpatine or something equally grandiose. They would have spent billions of credits, employed thousands of contractors and subcontractors, and equipped it with the latest in death-dealing technology. And you know what would have happened? It wouldn't have worked. They'd forget to bolt down a metal plate over an access hatch leading to the main reactors, or some other mistake, and a hotshot enemy pilot would drop a bomb down there and blow the whole thing up. Now that's what the Empire would have done." "
>>64026687
top tier bants right there.
>mfw Filoni and Lucas were about to bring the Yuuzhan Vong into Clone Wars before the cancellation due to the Disney buyout
>>64026635
>Especially that one author who was just obsessed with Mandalorians, he ruined everything by sticking a Boba Fett biography right in the middle of the series for no apparent reason.
Her name is Karen Traviss. Her books were pretty bad, although to be fair the story was never that great to begin with. I just wish she hadn't gotten what felt like the most important points in the series (Jacen's early days as a Sith, Jacen's transition to a full Sith Lord, and the final book). I wish Aaron Allston had just written the whole series, I think his books (Betrayal, Exile, Fury) did the best job making the story more than a reboot of Episode III with Palpatine as a sexy cyborg girl.
>>64026635
This tbqh family, though some of the EU made shortly before it was retconned was decent
>>64027021
>a reboot of Episode III with Palpatine as a sexy cyborg girl
what
>>64022019
And a clone of the clone named Luuuke.
>>64026635
I liked Dark Empire as I could see the trilogy as being the most natural Episodes 7-9 out of the whole post-ROTJ EU.
And I used to hate the Yuuzhan Vong, but for some reason I started to love them after awhile, at least their concept. And I appreciate what they were trying to do with them.
Young Jedi Knights will always be campy fun.
>>64027021
Traviss' RepComm books tho
>>64027189
Dark Empire just seems kind of lame to me, though.
>"Hey, Palpatine's not really dead! His spirit went into a clone on this secret planet in the center of the galaxy! And now he's young and super-powerful! And he's got this super fleet! And Luke turns to the dark side for....reasons. And in the end Han shoots Palpatine in the back and the day is saved."
>And I used to hate the Yuuzhan Vong, but for some reason I started to love them after awhile, at least their concept. And I appreciate what they were trying to do with them.
I thought they went a little too hard with the torture/pain aspects, but the idea of an enemy that the Jedi can't sense is great. And the stuff they did really upped the stakes, it was something that the EU had really lacked since Thrawn (the formula of "x villain with a fleet finds an old superweapon" was getting stale). The fall of Coruscant in particular was just great.
>Young Jedi Knights will always be campy fun.
Based kids' book series imo, it's the kind of thing I would have expected Disney to turn into a cartoon.
>>64026617
>This is just pure speculation. Nobody knows if the Empire would have been able to hold off the Yuuzhan Vong. Anytime it is addressed that Sheev knew about the intergalactic threat, it is never made clear whether the Empire would have been anymore successful.
A fucking death star or sun crusher would have made very short work on the invaders.
>>64026687
That's called lamp-shading. I read that very passage.
It's an obvious ass-pull by the authors since they eventually realized the implications of what they were creating with this series.
>>64027762
>>64027792
I think you've just convinced yourself of this and are trying to sell it as indisputable fact.
Seriously, a death star would have stopped the Vong? It couldn't even protect itself from teddy bears and x wings.
>>64026474
This post angered me a lot tbqh
>>64027762
>A fucking death star or sun crusher would have made very short work on the invaders.
"This Star Destroyer will make very short work of the rebels"
"The Death Star will make very short work of the rebels"
"Ok, the Star Destroyers didn't do the trick, but this Super Star Destroyer will make very short work of the rebels"
"Ok, the first one didn't work, but there's no way that a second Death Star wouldn't be able to do it!"
>>64027792
>It's an obvious ass-pull by the authors
It's not an obvious ass-pull, it's a logical conclusion based on how the the Empire operates in the movies. Their response to any opposition is to build a massive, expensive superweapon riddled with weaknesses.
>>64027353
>Dark Empire just seems kind of lame to me, though.
I can understand some of the complaints there probably were at the time of its release, but I think it's something that got kind of better with age. Again, if there was one trilogy from the Old EU you had to consider Episodes VII-IX, Dark Empire, flaws or not, seems like the best choice. It's themes and focus actually work pretty well with that of the six movie Saga as it is that I wonder if perhaps those behind it didn't have some kind of great foresight.
Having a batch of clones to transfer your soul to is totally a Sheev thing to do. And when you take the prequel trilogy into account, it make perfect sense for Sheev to have some shit like this in his storage shed left over from his early Sheevin' days in the Clone War.. The way in which Dark Empire focuses on the skywalker clan and their relationship/conflict with Uncle Sheev also fits well. Luke in Dark Empire starts to look a bit more like Anakin from 2 through 3 but ultimately proves himself stronger than his father was in either film. Leia's being Vader's daughter is followed up after ROTJ pretty well. And in the end this great dark romance between Vader's family and Sheev is finally put to an end by Solo.
With a few edits, it could have made the a nine movie saga.
>>64022067
you see this?
in the EU, this is a Jedi Master
>>64029025
so?
>>64029268
it's a fucking house cat
>>64029302
and this is a gremlin that touched too much water
>>64029354
>>64029302
>>64021679
You now realize that Rey is just Jaina without the books upon books of character development.
>>64029354
>>64029382
Ikrit is Yoda taken to a ridiculous extreme
"oh, you didn't expect that little green goblin to be a Jedi Master? well CHECK THIS OUT!"
>>64026160
>NJO also had Wedge solo-pilot the giant phallic imagery of a Super Star Destroyer into the moist cunt of a YV worldship like the classy gentleman he is
>tfw no more Wedge and the Rogue Squadron
>>64022067
>Is the EU "bad" in a campy fun way?
yes
I mean no.
>>64026635
BANE?
>>64021633
>random bat creature in the left
What the fuck, was the artist fucking high? Its a fucking family shot, minus the villain, and there's a random fucking bat man in there? Why not chewie ffs.
new jedi order was fucking retarded
star wars is not grimdark
star wars is not warhammer 40k
>>64022067
No its just plain bad.
Jedi Academy. Children of the Jedi. Crystal Star. Planet of Twilight.
>>64022019
and it was killed 5 pages after being introduced
>>64024933
the shit Bantam produced was just as bad
>>64027165
that was a parody
>>64029460
>Ikrit is Yoda taken to a ridiculous extreme
No he isn't. Being a Jedi was always about wisdom and learning and learning to become one with the force. Characters like Ikrit help send that message. Being a Jedi isn't about being big and strong and it isn't even about being able to wield a lightsaber
You're just grasping at straws
>>64029512
Ewok Jedi weren't canon.
>>64029591
>star wars is not grimdark
And yet many people who shit on NJO probably think ESB is the best of the saga.
>>64022019
The eu was a good friend.
>>64029025
>>64029460
>When gone am I last of the Jedi will you be
How do people forget this?
>>64029716
Empire was the best and its not grimdark
>>64029716
>Ewok Jedi weren't canon.
now none of the EU is canon :^)
>>64029730
The few surviving Jedi were either unknown to Yoda to still be alive, sealed away by magical shit or had fallen to the dark side,
>>64029764
>Empire is not grimdark
lying doesn't help.
>>64027189
>Young Jedi Knights will always be campy fun.
>find Young Jedi Knights books in my primary school library (along with Spaceballs - The Book, whoever ran my school library had GOAT taste)
>read them, Jaina becomes my waifu
>20 years later
>Disney wipes it all and gives me TFA instead
Why must everything I love be taken away from me?
>>64029958
Because the mouse must have the last laugh.
Should I make my nephew who's never seen Star Wars watch it in release or chronological order? I'm worried the prequels might confuse him if he sees them last. Also should I show him the theatrical versions, or have him watch ghost Hayden so it'd be less confusing.
>>64024945
I can't believe they made Necrons into Egyptians
they were much cooler as terminators controlled by an ancient god
>>64021805
Not true.
>>64030080
Tough call. Does he know Vader is Luke's dad?
I can say though that it might be best to show him the 1997 remastered version of the OT.
>>64026474
is that actually a line in that movie
im starting to understand why people hate the avengers now
>>64030080
IV, V, II, III, VI
>>64027097
Lumiya is a Dark side force user that teaches Jacen to be bad.
>>64030142
>>64030139
He's 6 and has only seen Episode 3 on an old DVD, besides that I don't think he knows anything. I'm more afraid that the viewing order could confuse him if we started with the OT.
>>64029971
That was pretty ridiculous shit desu. They just wanted to make the return to Coruscant more dangerous and give a nod to an old throwaway character.
>>64021633
Rey and Kylo Ren were intentionally ripped off of Jaina and Jacen, so you basically got the movie you wanted
>>64030142
It's actually set up well and quite funny.
It's a good, well-executed joke, not just a stupid one liner like Age of Ultron is packed to the gills with. You'll have to take my word for it.
>>64030260
Then start with the prequel trilogy.
And again, the 1997 remastered version of the OT is just fine.
>>64030294
>Ben Skywalker
>Jacen Solo
>Ben Solo
JFC Abrams....
>>64030080
Machete order.
What is this?
>>64030331
Fuck off kike, release order or nothing
>>64030380
DOCTOR SKYWALKER, I'M VONG
YOU DON'T GET TO BRING MIDICHLORIANS
>>64030380
Yuuzhan VOng
A genocidal warrior race of beings from another galaxy who use biotechnology, hate droids, can't be sensed through the Force and torture and mutilate their bodies as a sacrifice to their gods.
>>64029586
That little piece of shit cheats you in pazaak. Don't trust that cunt.
>>64030320
Are the differences that significant? I already started downloading the theatrical versions of the OT.
Only thing I think may be a problem is associating Anakin as a ghost and Sheev.
>>64030177
>>64030331
Do people really do this?
>dark empire is kill
That saddened me.
>>64029566
Fuck off and die
>>64030508
>Are the differences that significant?
The 1997 remastered editions are very light on their touches compared to the later version.
It's a nice middle ground between the theatrical version and the DVD/Blu-ray version that, at least in my opinion is pretty good for someone who is new to the franchise. If your nephew doesn't like that version, chances are he won't like the theatrical version or the later remastered version. If he likes it, chances are he'd enjoy all three versions.
>>64030613
>Jedi Rocks
Have you purchased your box of Order 66 cookies for christmas /tv/?
>>64030435
Clone Wars was going to introduce them 7th season in a "creepy, x-files like arc", but Disney cancelled it before we got to see it. A shame, with a little re-work to de-xtreem 90s-fy them, they could make a good addition to actual Star Wars lore.
>>64021633
LICH GONNA HAVE YOUR MANA
>>64030643
Dude's nephew is a six year old, not some sperg on the internet who takes himself too seriously.
>>64030643
Jedi rocks was added specifically for little kids
that nephew is literally the target audience for the changes
>>64030643
Literally there to add levity to scenes that were deemed a bit too dark for the younger audience by Lucas.
>>64030771
>>64030808
>>64030818
So would the newer versions actually be more preferable than the theatrical versions?
>>64030671
Honestly I think we could get a decent episodes 10 through 12 out of the Vong if they toned them down a bit. That said, the constant self-harm would fit perfectly with Kylo "Kid Columbine" Ren.
>>64031127
It depends
The changes are to make things more kid friendly but they more often than not mess with the originally intended tone. And it's not like the movies weren't kid friendly to start with either
>>64031127
Again, I think you should go for the first special edition, but it's your call. If all you can find are second special edition though, that's probably better than the theatrical versions for a six year old these days. While people give George a lot of shit these days for the special editions, it's in situations like these that they become a little useful for younger viewers who are always being bombarded with bigger and badder special effects heavy movies all the time.
I suggest the first special editions only because it may be enough to spark his interest in the other versions later on.
>>64030671
>>64031208
There's almost something very meta about the whole Vong arc though
"These beings are unlike anything we've ever encountered, are destroying everything and almost appear to be outside the Force."
The point of the Vong is that they are supposed to feel kinda out of place. And the arc of the Yuuzhan Vong was all about subverting the tropes, expectations and patterns of Star Wars up until that point. And it's funny cause the Vong threat is finally subdued when the species "finds its place" in the Star Wars universe (Zonama Sekot) and ceases to be lost, transient and alienated
>>64031646
I just meant toned down because a literal interpretation of them from the NJO novels would look real try-hard put to screen.
>>64031722
Well, obviously you might have to tone them down just a little for a CN cartoon. Filoni Wars would have probably focused more on their biotech, their inability to be picked up by Force sense and their hatred of droids, not so much on the cutting themselves and grafting body parts to themselves. Though I don't remember the NJO books being THAT explicit either.
>>64030716
It is too similar indeed.
>>64021633
Oh shit! She's gonna slice that little old dude!
>>64030080
Tell him Star Wars sucks, it will save him from going to see 50 cash-in Disney movies during his lifetime
>>64031872
I meant even for movies, it works fine leaving it up to the imagination for it to be cartoonish but in a new trilogy they'd just come across as edgy and try-hard.
>>64029644
And it was a better explanation for where Vader's blue lightsaber went than JJ's turd-push
>>64024945
>In Star Wars logic, a single laser blast from a tiny pistol will kill this instantly.
>>64030662
Empire Day ;_;
