He did nothing wrong and you know it.
>>63992233
he didn't salute the rank. Tried to pussy out.
He failed to earn the respect of the men he'd command, making him a failure as a leader.
He got cucked by Joey
He couldn't read a map.
He made the mistake of being incompetent AND being an asshole. Anybody with the smallest amount of authority will tell you you can't do that.
They were on a break.
In the late 1960s, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol.[9] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited out the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[9] He was later moved to a VA assisted living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. Sobel resided there for his last seventeen years until his death due to malnutrition on September 30, 1987.[9] No services were held for Sobel after his death.[9]
>>63992233
>mfw when stupid cunts think he cheated on reachel
>mfw i have no face
>>63992233
Winters was too indulgent and too motherly. Sobel's the asshole father trying to get you to be a better man than he is.
>>63992233
Sobel crafted Easy company into the best
>>63993538
Jesus, dude couldn't even kill himself.
>>63993538
Holy fuck
>take thee Rachel
>>63992233
Bad butterbar incarnate.
MY SANDWICH?! MY SANDWICH!?!? SOMEONE STOLE MY SANDWICH?!?!
Lt Spears all the way
>>63993708
They were on a fucking break, anybody with a little bit of sense should hate that cunt, most annoying character in the series
When re-watching BoB I wonder how much is just lies?
>Was Sobel really that bad a tactician, or was he just a git and the officers/NCO(s) hated him?
>Was Winters as nice as he appears on screen, or in reality was he a hard nosed field officer who picked men to almost certainly die die on force recon duties?
It just comes across as too perfect on occasion...
>>63992233
according to /k/ there are many things wrong with him
>served in the military
>wasted precious tax money
>welfare queen
>didnt get deployed in to combat
>served a corrupted guvment
>>63992233
Career military here. Never seen one gun fired in anger, but I spent seventeen years welding in bases across the world.
This guy is literally the stereotype of a bad officer. He didn't break the law, he didn't do anything that would get himself CMed, but he was a shitty officer and he didn't command any respect whatsoever.
This is a thing most people don't understand. We talk shit on officers because it's mandatory. It's a class warfare thing. You have to talk shit on COs. But the truth is they are better than us. Maybe raw out of the academy they're a bit green, but there's so much support for them, so many people for them to learn from, that basically they're the only thing that sets the Army apart from a bunch of civilians in dumb outfits.
For an officer. An OFFICER. Given command of an INFANTRY PLATOON to fucking fail them, or at least to fail to control them to the degree that they protest to a superior officer is fucking unheard of. If that happens he should never have made it into the program. Yes, the soldiers should be condemned for doing it, but if a bunch of sheep burn down a house, who do you blame, the sheep or the shepherd?
>>63997090
how is it the shepherds fault if the sheep burn down a house? how are the sheep able to burn anything?
>>63993538
I did clinicals in a nursing home and it takes a LONG time to kill someone with malnutrition. Either the place he was staying in had HORRIBLE resources or the guy was a huge asshole that led people to hate him so much that they literally gave him shit food or starved him
>>63996719
This
>>63997705
didn't the VA have a huge scandal at some point? it was probably something to do with that
>>63997705
V/A care in a nutshell senor
Fuck I miss this show. What's the best episode and why was itWebster's episode
>>63997777
Did they? I don't know, I'm not military.
>>63997780
Every single military friend I have have massive complaints about the VA. Apparently, even the employees there have trouble too. I read that some doctors get constant bladder infections because they literally have no time to get up due to the huge amount of patients they have to treat/diagnose.
>>63997777
The VA has had several large scale scandals. The care varies wildly depending on location from just decent to absolute you'd be better off going to a free clinic garbage tier
>>63997833
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Health_Administration_scandal_of_2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Reed_Army_Medical_Center_neglect_scandal
>>63997833
Money that should be going to the VA gets wasted on useless military spending, useless government spending and welfare/transfer payments/EBT.
The .gov has to fly in H1B doctors because it can't figure out a system that makes doctors want to work for the VA.
So shit/lower tier doctors, or forced to rely on military doctors (officers with rank) from military hopsitals because they can't figure out a system that would incentivize doctors/surgeons/hospitals to loan out a doctor for a day or a few hours a week.
he couldnt even kill himself properly
>In the late 1960s, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol.[9] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited out the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[9] He was later moved to a VA assisted living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. Sobel resided there for his last seventeen years until his death due to malnutrition on September 30, 1987.[9] No services were held for Sobel after his death.[9]
>>63998076
>reading the thread
police that mustache
>>63993538
>No services were held for Sobel after his death.
Seems pretty harsh, even for an asshole ....
Fuck this cunt. Why couldn't he salute Sobel one last time?
>>63998466
he finally dissed him the way sobel lived, through bureaucratic technicality. pure pottery.
>>63992233
He cut that man's fence.
>>63998498
What was the major's name again?
'Bastogne' might be the single greatest episode of television that I've ever seen. It was the one that followed the medic around.
>>63998540
HORTON
>>63998585
Yeah it was good but Webster was better.
>>63998620
There was no French qt nurse in that one.
You are objectively wrong.
>>63998751
Belgian.
>>63998810
Damn, you're right.
Touche, guy.
>>63992233
>Phoebe(about secret santa): And there’s an added mystery of .. you know.. who gets who.
>Ross:Who gets whom.
Based Ross, defending the English language from niggerisms.
dem feels
>>63999678
>holding on to prescriptive grammar
literally autism
>>63996719
Yeah I'm also for the psychopath who committed war crimes.
>>63997792
>>63998620
What was Webster's episode again? One of the Market Garden ones? Didn't that focus mainly on Bull being a badass?
>>63999948
>yo, grammar iz too hart, pls make it mo’ eeze
literally nigger
>>63992233
He was incompetent, he couldn't even kill himself >>63993538
>>64000398
"The last patrol" where the Easy has to capture prisoners in hagenau
>>63997090
Sobel came across as an excellent training officer, but a crap tactician.
The reason he and so many other officers fucked up in the field, was that back then they just carted them off to the front as soon as they were done with basic training. Add to that the blatant political appointments of division commanders and upwards (like Eisenhower, who OK'd Market Garden), and you have a lot of dead soldiers where you shouldn't have.
The war WAS ON A BREAK!
Sobel did exactly what he was supposed to do. He played the "bad guy" by challenging the trainees and making things completely not fair for them.
In response they got in shape, learned to work together, and quickly learned that the army was an inefficient wreck that put retards in charge of your life. It's a hard fucking job but in the end Sobel saved a lot of the trainees' lives.
Was he an incompetent asshole? Yes. Did he perform his duties? Yes.
>>64001705
how is feeding them spaghetti before that hill run a good training program?
>>64000880
how was market garden a bad idea?
not that it went well, but how was it a bad idea before it happened
>>64001770
The krauts wouldn't let them wait 30min after eating before making them do physical activities so why would he?
>>64001770
Because they were going to face more fucked up things than that once they were deployed. The theory at the time was that if you made the training more difficult than the war itself, your soldiers would be better able to handle the shock and fatigue because they wouldn't be strangers to it.
>>63996518
Killing yourself is harder than you'd think. Speaking from experience
>>64001996
its not if you have gun, even a retard know that you shouldnt shoot at the temple, it rarely kills.
>>63992233
is that Ross?
Easy Company members that are literally you.
I'll start.
>>64001770
My grandpa actually had trouble with shitty spaghetti in Sicily, food poisoning for some time.
>>64002035
Why do people never shoot themselves in the heart? It makes less mess so it's more thoughtful and normally it only takes a few seconds to kill you
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hm84rKoo2Q8
You weren't prepared f a m
>>64002093
LITERALLY ME
>>64002188
Re-watched Band of Brothers with my old man last weekend. Wasn't prepared for these feels.
>>64002139
most people dont even know where heart is exactly. its pretty easy to miss
>>64002241
My family and i rewatch it almost every year when we get together, one of the few things we all enjoy sitting down together to watch
>>64002188
the ending where the real veterans talk is better
>granpa said no...but I served in a company of heroes
>>64002263
Fair point I suppose, could always go and buy big bags of heroin and cocaine and shoot up all of it and go out with some life enjoyment
>>64002364
or put the gun in your mouth and aim up
>>64000027
Triggered Naziboo detected
post GOAT scenes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6da9U6Xjd8
>>64002263
>>64002139
General Tojo tried to sudoku by shooting himself in the heart.
He missed, the Allies got him and put him on trial.
A truly shamefur dispray.
>>63997090
>>63992233
Hes kind of like a foil to that officer in Platoon. Hes the same thing, except hes really nice and trys to be cool and likable to his soldiers, so they just walk all over him and Barnes really runs shit.
I heard a rumor that they use him as an example of what NOT to be to kids in training
>>64002327
>in a few more years, all these men will be dead, and their stories will just be that, stories. The human element of the greatest war in human history will just be another chapter in a history book that 18 years olds will bitch about having to read, while these guys were storming Normandy at 18.
>>63992325
Actually he cucked Joey then Joey attempted to cuck him bu pussied out.
>>63997043
naziboo pls
>>64002641
the heart is closer to the mid section. most people think its at your nipple
>>64002327
I literally cry every time
>>64001849
>how was it a bad idea before it happened
The plan relied on literally EVERYTHING going EXACTLY as planned. So when the Germans held at Nijmegen and blew up at least one of the first bridges, not to mention held up XXX Corps along Hell's Highway for as long as they did, the plan showed exactly how shit it was. Not to mention it relied on bad intelligence, where reports from the Dutch resistance about German troop concentrations were ignored.
Montgomery wasn't a military genius, his success in the desert relied mostly on superiour numbers, and he even ingerited the battle plan from his predecessor.
>>63998049
>can't figure out a system that would incentivize doctors/surgeons/hospitals to loan out a doctor for a day or a few hours a week.
Incentives like this thing called "money".
I bet the wounded soldiers spent more money in munitions during their service, than the government spent on their treatment.
>>64002750
We still have our contemporary heroes.
>>64005241
who is this
>went to Harvard
>volunteered for the military
>rejected promotions
>researched sharks
>became one with the ocean
why was webster so based? the show made him out to be a bit of a whiney cunt
