>nitpick the prequels to hell, to the point where every single line is somehow criticized and made fun of
>Gives TFA a complete pass on its massive glaring flaws because it's "soft reboot" so it being shit doesn't matter so long it has lightsabers
Where were you when RLM died and became a glorified Disney advertising channel?
theres nothing good about the prequels
TFA was a good watch
>>63977687
There is plenty of good in Prequels and there is plenty of bad in TFA. It's fucking childish to assume one is inherently shit while the other is inherently good like RLM does.
>>63977570
> Literally discuss script structure 101, character motivation, plot coherence and how the prequels failed on fairly fundamental aspects of screen writing.
> Think RLM are the only ones who did this.
> Call it nitpicking
Fucking Christ
>>63977777
nice
Redditors hate the prequels and the best way to become Internet famous is to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I have to hand it to Mike, he knows his craft and I won't hold that against him.
>>63977725
no it isnt. the prequels fail in every category.
>>63977725
>There is plenty of good in Prequels
no there isn't
>>63977815
ha ha reddit. we here at 4chan dont like those people. callin another a redditor is insulting. ha ha
>>63977815
sup reddit
>literally praise it for being a soft reboot that doesnt step away from A New Hope
>Shit a Jurassic World for being a soft reboot that at least tries to be new.
>>63977838
>>63977863
Hello Reddit. Please upvote my comment ;)
>the bad guy is literally an edgelord jew
>it's a good movie
>>63977570
He's MovieBob tier now.
>>63977570
except TFA did things well that the prequels did badly
for instance the lightsaber battles aren't soulless video game scenes in TFA
>>63977956
kek
kiko ren.webm
>>63977570
with the prequels he started with how the fundamentals were just totally wrong, and the ''nitpick'' criticisms were the icing on the cake.
TFA got all the basic parts right that it needed to get right.
>>63977987
And TFA did a lot of shit wrong. Why did RedditLetterMedia overlook those flaws?
>>63977956
>the bad guy is a jew
>tv will say this is bad
wow you guys sure flip flop a lot
>>63977815
I know being a contrarian might make you feel like you are starting from a superior position in most conversations but liking or defending the prequels won't get you there. Just makes you look like a shit eating baby every time.
it was just post-premiere euphoria
mike and jay will come around to rich's views after a couple of weeks, if they haven't already
Half in the Bag =\= Plinkett.
I still think we will get an actual Plinkett review out of TFA
>>63977815
Go to r/starwars out of morbid curiosity and see how much they love the prequels and hate TFA
>>63978021
its not a plinkett review you fucking incoherent retard. have you ever seen a half in the bag on the prequels? moron
Rich Evans didn't like it and Jay didn't really give a shit.
>>63978063
>/tv/ is one person
>>63977570
>thinking that a kneejerk reaction review made at 4am after seeing the movie for the first time at 1 am the day it came out will have the same level of intricacy and insight behind a 70 minute pet-project review made years after the fact
>>63978130
Isn't Mike the one writing the Plinkett reviews?
>>63978166
Mike is Plinkett
>>63978034
Have you watched the video? They talk about things that they liked and didn't like, but ultimately agree that the movie was still enjoyable to watch. People without autism are able to accept that not everything has to be flawless to be enjoyed.
>>63978157
Wow, it's almost like making a review as a kneejerk response to please Redditors is a bad idea.
TFA would not get the pass it does without the Prequels, to be honest. Only by going, well, it's not as bad as it could've been, can you justify that piece of shit.
>>63978192
So why is he so lenient on TFA while going ape shit on the prequels? All I ask for is consistency.
>>63977838
>>63977863
>soundtracks
>clone wars
>Sheev
>>63978247
Because TFA wasn't total shit like the prequels were.
I'm sure Mike might nit pick the shit out of it eventually though.
>>63978269
>muh duel of fates
Why does everyone consider that a saving grace for shit movies
>>63978341
>Because TFA wasn't total shit like the prequels were.
But it was. But I don't expect RLM to care since they love capeshit anyways.
>>63978269
Duel of the Fates is great. Williams had a decent moment or two in the prequels, but he also had misses like the entire AotC score. Sheev was ridiculous, as much as I love Sheevposting and the CGI clones were a joke.
>>63978404
>but he also had misses like the entire AotC score
The Arena and Love Across the Stars are really good.
>>63978404
>misses like the entire AotC score
This one was good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM_ZWnD40aA
Reddit loves TFA because it has a wisecracking funnyman like in their Marvel movies
>>63978496
>Reddit loves TFA because it has a wisecracking funnyman like in the OT
>>63978475
>this one song was good so the movie is good
They had years to digest the prequels individually and what they meant as a whole. When attack of the clones came out, people didn't shit on it all that much compared to what they do now. I remember a lot of the reaction at the time just being how cool it was to see a bunch of Jedi fighting. It takes time unless it's something truly horrible like Prometheus.
They definitely softened up lately, I think it's just because they want to release videos really quickly. It's obvious that not all that much thought goes into them.
Plus, Plinkett is the angry autustic side of him.
They also love it because it's progressive.
>>63978553
How did you get that from what I said?
>>63978625
>sorting by best
If you're going to browse reddit, you have to sort by controversial.
>>63978496
I rewatched ANH a few days ago and honestly there's as much quipping as there is in your average Marvel movie.
>>63977687
>>63977838
>>63977863
Exposed Reddit, feel free to disregard these opinions everyone
>>63978692
thanks for the tip reddit
>>63978553
I'll take reading comprehension for 400.
>>63978496
that line felt out of place in a Star Wars film
>>63978496
>>63978625
>blatantly browsing Reddit
Man things have really changed around here. At least in the past people posting about reddit would feel embarassed.
Why do you people still care about Star Wars? It's a kids movie and always has been one. If you're an adult and arguing about these movies then you need to get a life.
>>63978496
wait... REDDIT likes something? I HATE IT NOW! I HATE IT!
>>63978496
>>63978625
You seem like a reddit expert, anon. You should go check it out some more.
>people unironically believe TFA is as bad as the prequels turned out to be
you niggers srs?
>>63978737
>maybe if i shitpost enough about reddit the TFA tourists will leave my board so i can do some more pedoposting
no
>>63978788
>>63978799
>>63978797
Reddit exposed
>>63978838
>pedoposting
it's cunny you goddamn tourist
>>63978896
I know what you pedophiles call it. That doesn't mean that you're not a disgusting pedophile that should kill yourself. :^)
>pedophile exposed
>>63977815
>I don't know what I'm talking about
>>63978759
>>63978662
Samefag, 800 Alex
The Plinkett reviews are a mix of Rich and Mike.
Rich was much less pleased with TFA than Mike was. Mike just wanted a Star Wars movie and that's what JJ gave him.
JJ saw that people just wanted the old Star Wars and just made that.
>>63978864
>reddit exposed
most reddit thing I've heard on this site baka senpai
>>63977570
>I don't understand the difference between glaring storytelling failures and minor nitpicks: the post
>>63979104
Rich was still pretty okay with TFA though
>>63979104
Old Star Wars movies were mostly self-contained. TFA makes no sense if watched alone.
>>63979159
Being okay with TFA is a fine reaction, which surprised me since Rich spergs out usually.
>>63979209
>TFA makes no sense if watched alone.
How come? All characters and events are explained pretty well, even if its' just with a throwaway line.
>>63979159
Yeah, but he saw what it was more than Mike did.
TFA isn't terrible, it's just a rehash that hits all of the beats of the originals, mostly ANH and Jedi.
Like Jay said, it's just a dumb Space Movie, not some terribly deep thing that needs to be glorified.
TFA was a Star Wars movie. It was so much a Star Wars movie that it was almost too Star Wars, and that's what the fans wanted.
Rich was fine with it because it was competent. It's not like he praised it like Mike did.
>>63979353
>that's what the fans wanted
No shut up, nobody wanted more Star Wars movies. It needed to die.
>>63979114
>glaring storytelling failures
Plenty in TFA.
>>63977570
wait, were they not being serious in the end? I thought their entire review was a joke?
>>63977570
Mike has always been a problem. Jessi and drinking has ruined what was going to be a majestic man.
Thank heavens for Jay. At least his hipster thoughts allow him to like shit that's not designed for man children.
>>63979464
But Jay liked it more than Rich did
>>63977777
THE QUINTS HAVE SPOKEN
>>63977687
Prequels have very few redeeming qualities. BUT at least the fan service and gender/racial politics didn't ruin them. It's was George's ineptitude to make a movie after not doing it for 22 years.
JJ was just sucking the franchise cock. He shoved his old R2 up his ass and directed a light lens flare take on Star Wars.
>>63978115
what the fuck are you babbling about you imbecile?
>>63979682
please read again you crippled shitstain
>>63979568
How did the gender/racial politics ryin TFA if Finn and Poe were amongst the best characters?
Do you think they considered a black Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker or maybe they were specifically looking for white actors?
>>63979259
T H I S
B
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>>63977987
>soulless
>lacks emotion
Nice meme
The prequels failed to connect to the audience on an emotional level
this film accomplished that
that's the ultimate failing of the prequels that episode 7 got right
>>63979840
>this film accomplished that
If you're 7 and this is your first movie.
Ironically I watched PreRec and AIDSMoby and Rich's opinions on the movie were a lot more aligned with /tv/'s than Mike and Jay's.
Never would have thought Jack would actually be the one talking sense, but here we stand.
>>63977920
have you ever fucking been to reddit? it's literally a prequel circlejerk about how they are actually good. but anything I disagree with is a pleb reddit opinion lel the prequels were actually gold and TFA is made by a nigger loving kike haha
>>63979773
>huge emphasis on Asian pilots or female pilots
>Rey is a special character
>most evil characters are gawky pale white dudes
TFW made sure it included everyone. Fine. But to say shit like Rey is a perfect character is a stretch.
>>63977956
He looks like Snape.
>>63979912
Thats the irony of all this prequel apologist shit posting. Its the most reddit opinion you can have
>>63979770
your post is still as incoherent as it was before.
OP whined about how mike didn't give TFA the plinkett treatment, while completely ignoring the fact that the prequels fucked up on a very basic level while TFA didn't.
>>63979313
>All characters and events are explained pretty well
No they are not. Let's try to watch the opening text pretending it is a movie of its own:
>Luke Skywalker is missing!
Who? Why?
>But an old ally of the Resistanse has the piece of map to find him!
Who is that ally? What is the Resistanse? Why didnt that ally told everyone already?
>And so general Organa, former princess Leia, sends her best pilot
Who again? And, since the title ends with line about him, why is this pilot guy barely in the movie?
And so on.
>>63979952
One asian pilot with only a name given in supplementary material is hardly indicative of any thing.
Also you're acting like a qt asian pilot is a bad thing.
Rey's character and adaptability is by far the weakest aspect of the film. Agreed
>>63979912
reddit normies shit on the prequels just like every other website in existence. it's practically an unspoken rule.
>>63979353
>it was almost too Star Wars, and that's what the fans wanted
Well that confirms them being dumbasses.
>>63980021
>fucked up on a very basic level while TFA didn't.
But TFA did. A copypaste movie is inherently shit.
>>63977956
>that giant poofy hair
Why in the fuck would you have a character that's supposed to be wearing a helmet-wask have that kind of hair?
It's not like he could be copying Anakin's long hair, since all he knows about is Vader.
>>63980023
You should compare that with the other title crawls in the series, since its fairly close in tone and delivery.weakest title crawl since the prequels though
>>63977570
Plinkett is a character you fuck, that's why he nitpicks everything. Mike is a real person.
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO ACT LIKE A BUNCH OF CONTRARIAN FAGGOTS?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>63980023
>It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.
Who are the rebels? Who is the Galactic Empire? Why is it evil?
>During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, an armored space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet.
How did they steal it? Also if the plans are secret how did they know about them?
>Pursued by the Empire's sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy....
Who is she? Why didnt she give those plans to someone already?
>>63980167
What's /r9k/'s opinion of TFA?
>>63980167
You are using the meme wrong newfriend
>>63977815
This is epic
>>63980069
except it's not. you can dislike it for that reason, but it doesn't mean that it's shit. the plot for ANH is pretty basic anyway.
>>63979906
>AIDS
Where did they opine about the stars war?
>>63980299
Yes it does. A literal copypaste is worse than original stories. Fuck TFA. Barely a movie of its own. Felt fake and safe as fuck.
>If you think the prequels are shit you're from reddit
But I've never once posted on reddit, and the sequels are shit.
>trying to watch plinkett reviews
>WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE xDDdD
>WHO WANTS A PIZZA ROLL xddDD
holly fuck they literally are reddit-tier
>>63980023
>doesn't know what serials are
>>63977570
They should have done the review like, a week later, not right after the screening. It's obvious Mike bought into the hype and Jay and Rich didn't want to spoil it for him.
>>63977920
>>63978737
So now it's reddit to think the prequels are shit? Jesus fucking christ /tv/ how contrarion do we need to be.
>>63978496
>implying young obi wan wasn't a handsome wisecracker like han solo
>implying that line was in any way "human" and did not require balls of steel
>>63980384
plinkett is reddit: the character
TFA felt like a Star wars movie the prequels didnt they were fucking awful.
>>63980167
At this point i'm so lost i don't know anymore if you mean to go against the "contrarians" or the ones memeing who says TFA was mediocre
>>63980129
Yes, they are really weak. They concentrate on the very wrong points, making viewer feel that Poe is going to be main character, for example. Or the whole "old ally" part - you can pretty much remove it and there will be one hole less in the plot (aka why didnt that ally tell them already). The title crawls, well as far as i understand it, are needed to quickly familiarize viewer with the basics of a universe (there is a rebellion, there is an evil empire, it have superweapon which can make it unbeatable and Leia has vital information to destroy it), not to explain plot, not in the trilogy's first movie at least. ANH didnt even had in-universe terms like Jedi. Even ESB crawls can pretty much explain the movie to the one who didnt watch Ep4 (which has some flaws too). TFA, on the other hand, dont even bother with explanation, and it is much needed (Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed. - seriously, if you are not a SW fan, you will probabli be confused as hell with this).
>>63980356
>felt fake and safe as fuck
what did you expect from an advertisement wars movie? an avant-garde experimental flick? they absolutely needed to get this one right, and to that end they used a pretty basic and straightforward plot. again, the plot in ANH is not that original or unique.
>A literal copypaste is worse than original stories
not by default, no. by this standard, Miami Connection is better than Yojimbo because the former tells an original story.
>>63977570
RLM became shit after they released their last ever Plinkett review.
I'm considering unsubbing.
>>63980549
>muh feeeels
>not muuuuuh
What a post.
> Nitpicking
People should maybe watch the entirety of the reviews before making these sorts of claims.
https://youtu.be/c_W5OuuV-hk?t=6m12s
>>63980725
>I'm considering unsubbing
Literally nobody cares, faggot.
>>63980615
all the normies I know think the film is mediocre and are generally deflated.
then again I'm in my 30s so it's possible that younger fans are being blinded by hype more.
>>63978496
>film needed a Han Solo type
>Han Solo is already in the movie
>>63978496
Hello Reddit
>>63980916
Or you and your friends are plebs that can't recognise a good movie.
>>63980964
What the fuck is good about it? Micheal Bay could have put together a better movie than this hack.
Star wars autists/manchildren are the only ones who hates the prequels.
These people are so autistic that they literally prefer remakes rather than something fresh.
>>63977687
>TFA was a good watch
Amazingly Finn was more compelling and believable to me, as was Kylo. Rey was a Mary Sue. The entire New Order and Resistance or whatever made no fucking sense at all, J.J. is a fucking hack.
Sure, TFA is technically marvellous but it just feels like Star Wars Into darkness for some reason, can't say why and the darker bits on any ship felt like Nero's throne room from Star Trek 09. Fucking Rey being a Mary Sue fucked me over but not as bad as the bigger badder death star. Fuck disney and fuck J.J. for insisting on a bigger death star and how it had a weakness only a rag tag bunch could exploit. why not a virus wiping out worlds and han and leia dying trying to save and shuttle victims to safety, why a death star? why not a virus which is controlled at a centralized location and the new republic literally gets all of obliterated throwing there entire fleet at this rag tag bunch of hold outs from non aligned worlds who created the new empire and follows snoke who was the one who created this new virus with thousands of systems joining the new empire in order not to be wiped out by the plague...why a bigger and equally as flawed, death star?
why rehash a new hope? why make Rey an obvious cash grab character to sell star wars to girls? didn't they think making her so powerful would cheapen and lessen her accomplishments? i literally felt nothing for rey, and everything she encountered, from her time being captured to her telepathic session with kylo to her final fight with him was like something J.J. and Disney set up just so Rey could Mary Sue her way out of it. Now they're calling this fucking lousy shit character a feminist Icon? is this fucking real life, or is this some kind of fucking nightmare?
dafuq is going on here? Han dies and Leia hugs, REY? Fuck is this shit?
>>63981087
A fresh turd is still a turd
>>63980725
i can't stand these guys.
>>63980833
The X-Wing battle at the end on the Starkiller is just as bad and "dense" as the coliseum fight in AotC.
>>63980833
>you see, the originals borrowed from a wide range of media
>in 2000, Lucas seen the Gladiator and decided that he'd want an arena
>And a futuristic city like in Blade Runner
So in 2000 borrowing from wide array of cultural artifacts becames bad somehow. Yet another reason why shitkett's reviews are three hours of loud "NOT MUUUUUUUHHHHH!!!!!!!!".
>>63981171
thanks for your input! we really appreciate it!
>>63981147
jesus
I never thought I would agree so much with someone on 4chan
rey was OP as fuck
>>63978221
Because obviously no one here watched it or was interested. That's why this thread exists. Those darn Redditors, it's all their fault!
>>63981204
This. And destruction of the core is very anticlimactic. Hell, it looked more like a flyby, and music tone didnt even change.
>>63981210
he's implying that those decisions were done for more cynical reasons.
nobody gave a fuck about old 40s/50s serials back when SW and indiana jones first came out. those aesthetic decisions were made because they had a genuine passion for and love of those serials.
>>63981269
also apparently X-wing's blasters can cause massive explosions where ever they hit, if the plot requires it at that moment.
>>63977570
Half in the Bag is not a Mr. Plinkett review.
>>63981332
But everything in TFA was done for the same reason. It's why we got an even bigger and deadlier Death Star, an even older and wackier Yoda, a desert planet, and so on. It was all just to make money because it's what the dumbass fanboys want.
>>63981359
>A barrage balloon, sometimes called a "blimp", is a large balloon tethered with metal cables, used to defend against aircraft attack by damaging the aircraft on collision with the cables, or at least making the attacker's approach more difficult.
>TFW couple of them in the tunnels could have saved both Death stars and Starkiller
>>63981332
>he's implying that those decisions were done for more cynical reasons
That's literally NOT MUH. Literally.
>>63979906
I fucking knew it. The negative downboats on PreRec puzzles me at first, but then I realized that it's not quite the RLM main channel.
>>63981385
Doesn't mean they can't criticize a film in depth on half in the bag. They've done it several times.
But still, TFA and the prequels aren't really comparable. TFA is at the very least good, whereas the prequels are awful.
>>63980833
>My Way instrumental
I don't care about the memes, these reviews are carefully crafted pieces of art.
>>63979259
This
>>63978715
this is a lie, because I did the same thing.
>>63981491
Besides SPLOSIOOOONS and Han Solo!!!! what is good about TFA? It shits on the OT, it fails to develop any original characters, and for trying to copy ANH its plot is fucking retarded with a map to Luke and a bigger badder deathstar.
>>63981581
>it fails to develop any original characters
Prequel kids are completely delusional at this point.
>>63978715
>ANH
Please stop this, it's called Star Wars.
>>63981581
>it fails to develop any original characters
That's not true, Po and Fin are good (the credit goes to actors though).
>It shits on the OT
> its plot is fucking retarded
This is true and it is sad.
>>63979259
>4chan
>a hack
>another hack
>>63981424
Oh obviously there was lots and lots of cynicism involved in the making of TFA, I mean it's a movie with a 4 billion trillion dollar budget.
But at the same time, those things that they happened to do, like practical effects, is what incidentally makes for a good movie. And the characters were about as unique as you can get in this type of movie.
As far as the death star thing goes, yeah that was lazy. But it didn't make the movie ''bad'' the same way the prequels were.
RLM are the living embodiment of the smug, detached Gen-X ethos.
I'd venture to guess none of them has felt a single sincere conviction about anything since childhood. They exist as polyps upon the colon of culture, satiating themselves on the perceived failures of others (i.e. "The Man") while adding nothing new to the discourse aside from ironic complaint.
They're a group of insecure, lost, rapidly aging burnouts who silently believe they could do a better job of making films than the professionals in the industry. Yet they lack the ambition and ability to actually enter the very industry they're obsessed with. They choose instead to fuck around and make student film piss-takes well into middle age.
They are awful, awful people. I've met thousands just like them, and the last thing we need is for these people to gain any attention for their navel gazing.
Please, /tv/, do not aspire to become anything like these people. Theirs is a lonely and pathetic road leading to depression and a life devoid of real purpose.
I hope they disappear and their disaffected followers stop subsidizing their lifestyle. Perhaps that would force them to do something productive with themselves.
>>63981624
Poe gets 15 mins
Finns character development is finished once he meets Rey
Rey is a complete and total mary sue used more as an infallible plot device to move the show along than anything resembling an actual character, and her use of the force is against everything currently in SW canon to that point.
How can you justify a THIRD fucking Death star?????????
These people are idiots.
>>63980224
>How did they steal it? Also if the plans are secret how did they know about them?
This is pushing it a bit right here. Maybe a dictionary is what you really need if words are so hard?
>Who is she? Why didnt she give those plans to someone already?
At the time a long distance message was pretty unbelievable. So, selective technology I guess.
But still beats the hell out of TFA which has the evil first order fighting a resistance backed by the republic, none of which really makes sense in context or out of it.. It generally confuses exactly how much power is held by each side.
The whole first scene is a disgusting rehash of the first scene of ANH though.
>>63981581
>SPLOOOOSHIONS
As opposed to the subtle and low-key storytelling of the prequels? The 40 minute lightsaber fight at the end of ROTS was awful.
And what's wrong with bringing Han Solo back? Besides, they kill him right in the first episode.
As far as the original characters are concerned, it does a surprisingly good job at developing them.
>>63981734
>Finns character development is finished once he meets Rey
Oh, so some other character wanted to escape to outer rim. How was his name again?Him escaping and finding Luke himself eventually would be much better than the stupidity with map and R2D2 though.
>>63981826
>How can you justify a THIRD fucking Death star
This is like complaining about armies still using guns and governments still building nukes. It's an effective weapon.
>>63977570
>He thinks youtube nobodys are immune to payola.
>>63977838
It doesn't fail in,
>Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon
>Ewan Mcgregor as Obi-Wan
>Ian Mcdiarmid as Sheev
>John Williams' memorable score
>the Duel of the Fates duel with Maul
>the opera scene
>the prequels being an alegory of our very own political climate
>creature design
>character design
>art direction
>sound design (waaaaay superior to Force Awakens actually)
>the Ben-Hur inspired podracing sequence
>CGI work (best at the time)
>miniature/bigature model work
>interesting and exotic locations
The prequels weren't great, but hey definitely had good, quality elements to them and are memorable and well done in their own right.
>>63981933
It's a plot device that has been used three times. Shitty writing.
>>63981886
>And what's wrong with bringing Han Solo back?
Why? He looks so old and tired at screen, just like Leia, that i cannot help but feel better when Kylo puts him out of his misery.
>>63981933
It's not really effective when it constantly gets blown up the exactly same way.
>>63981933
>effective weapon
It took like 50 years to build and managed to blow up one planet full of pacifists before being destroyed by a bunch of teenagers.
And the second one was destroyed by spear chucking teddy bears
And the third one was destroyed by a Janitor
>>63977687
wrong, the prequels were garbage. The new movie is a cliche cash grab with a bunch of ham-fisted fanfare nods.
I liked the movie through the first 3rd, after that the plot holes piled up fast.
JJ Abrams is a fucking hack, good thing he won't be directing the next episode.
>>63977570
What are some other jewtube review channels with a similar entertainment value for either movie, tv, games? Mostly interested in the old 30-40 year olds being drunk having banter and clearly being somewhat knowledgeable about the behind the scenes aspects of the shit they review.
reminder
>>63982038
If Disney actually cared about putting out a good product instead of capeshit cashgrabs, this point would be moot.
>>63981963
the podracing was good.
sheev was good, very entertaining.
John Williams' score for the first episode was very good. Duel of the Fates is great, but the fight itself was bad,
the rest is wrong.
>>63981933
no, it's incredibly expensive and huge and apparently just as flawed as all the others.
it was used because J.J. and the Mouse are hack artist only interested in A New Hope 2.0 pandered they did this shill of a movie hoping that it would some how be as culturally significant as A New Hope was. If that was their hope, which it probably was then they failed horribly. a bigger and badder and just as fucking retardedly weak death star is pure shit and shows their lack of creativity.
>>63982065
Left needs more based Lucas.
>>63982065
False analogy, there's literally 0 memes on the right.
>>63981994
>It's a plot device that has been used three times
They use guns in all WW2 movies, I guess they are all shit then.
>>63981963
>the Ben-Hur inspired podracing sequence
I hate to disappoint you anon, but it was inspired by norwegian stop-motion cartoon of 1975.
https://vimeo.com/84289137
TFA felt more true to the originals than the prequels. Whilst it had its gimmicks they were throw backs instead of shit like Jar Jar Binks.
>>63979912
>>63980061
One of you is lying but both of you are from Reddit so I'm at a loss as to who's opinion I should disregard.
>>63977570
>nonsensical plots, horrible characterization, and bad acting are nitpicks
Whatever you say, OP.
>>63981963
This is why even mediocre prequels are better than The Capeshit Awakens.
>>63982027
Not to mention that it's just very unrealistic that the empire would actually destroy a planet. It's an awful waste of resources.
A whole planet destroyed. Natural resources, living space, etc. It's a waste of money.
>>63982107
Revenge of the Sith's final battles were a ladtage that surpassed Empire and A new Hope saber battles.
Return of the Jedi blows them all out of the water though...before the Emperor was marvellous done both musically and visually.
>>63982027
>And the third one was destroyed by a Janitor
But they got to completely wipe out their major enemy with it. The entire enemy fleet is gone as it's their main political and economic center.
So it was a good investment.
>>63982210
a virus would have made more sense but whatever.
>>63982210
Agreed. One Star Destroyer is apparently enough to raze the entire surface of a planet, so why build one Death Star if you can make eight thousand Star Destroyers?
>>63982003
Well, that was part of why they're bringing them back. In order to give closure. Ford always wanted Solo to die, and now Solo gets to die, nobly.
I didn't think it was a very elegant death, something about it felt off (maybe that Han should've died in TESB) but better late than never. And also, it's the only way to get the cinematic SW universe off the ground again. If they said ''We gonna make a SW trilogy but it won't have any real connection to the OT even though the original cast is still alive,'' nobody would care.
>>63982144
>They use guns in all WW2 movies, I guess they are all shit then.
Call back when they will use guns in WWII movies as plot devices, three times in a row in the same series.
>>63982144
Just give up.
Even the most hardcore lovers of the OT will admit that it was a bit silly to introduce a second Death star in RotJ.
>>63982210
When a dog is beyond saving it's better to just put it to sleep to end it's suffering.
Like Lucas, Mike spent every idea he had pretty early. He was scared to go in again.
>>63982224
Yeah it was really lucky all the planets where in viewing distance of each other so that the beam could magically split and blow them all up at one time.
(Wtf was that?)
>>63982278
Yes, but you don't have to destroy the planet where the dog lives.
>>63982215
>Revenge of the Sith's final battles were a ladtage that surpassed Empire
>>63977777
Checked
>>63982257
>The Guns of Navarone
>Force 10 from Navarone
kill yourself now please.
>>63982257
Every single WW2 movie uses guns as plot devices.
>>63982254
>better late than never
Not in that case. Han Solo in TFA ignored all the character progression from the originals.
>nobody would care about the multimillion release in Star wars franchise if old cast will not be in it
Do you honestly believe this?
>>63982224
> entire republic fleet all in one system
Not even Georgie would write something that pants on head. Look at all these systems damnit.
>>63982328
The Empire's fight of Luke Vs his Father musically wasn't as moving as Obi Wan and Anakin fighting on an ocean of lava. Stop for a moment and think about, really thin about it. let's forget for a moment that most of the prequels scenes were shitty and think about the impactfulness between Anakin and Obi Wan on Mustafa fighting on an endless ocean of molten Lava. For the love of all that's sweet, ignore their spoken bits, and just listen to the music.
>>63982385
The same Republic that didn't even recommission mothballed Star Destroyers? That Republic?
>>63977570
>Where were you when RLM died and became a glorified Disney advertising channel?
I was un-subscribing from there YT channel and getting banned from their cesspool forum
>>63977570
I was sobbing on my bed shouting, "You fucked it up Mike! You bastard!"
I've been betrayed and will never trust again.
>>63982288
>the beam could magically split and blow them all up at one time.
>(Wtf was that?)
It's how modern nuclear weapons are delivered.
>>63982433
don't blame the actualizations Lucas established on the horrible plot holes J.J. crafted in TFA!
>>63982433
See why wouldnt they? What was that from? Some new canon bullshit?
>>63982385
It's not the same Republic though, it's probably much smaller.
>>63982458
They travel in a single beam and then split when they get close to their target?
But I was talking more about why where all the fucking planets so close to each other?
>>63982385
They had New Respublic disband the army in novellisation just to "not make the old respublic mistakes".
>>63982364
Try ones that are not about SPLOOOSIOOONS.
>>63982353
Yeah, those guns definitely was the ultimate superweapon impossible to destroy to anyone but the protagonist himself. And we totally meant heavy artillery, and not rifles and machine guns. Fuck you.
>>63982419
>ignore their spoken bits
How can anyone ignore that stupidly retarded dialogue? Or the fact that it drags for too long? Or that they jump and swing around green screens with no emotion involved?
>>63982367
It didn't ignore ALL of the character progression from the OT. I said that I didn't think it was a very elegant death, all things considered, but it was fine enough.
>Do you honestly believe this
These are beloved characters, and people wanted to revisit them after all these years. It was perfect from Disney's pov. Even Lucas, who told these supposedly experimental and risky tales, just made a prequel trilogy about Vader and Obi-Wan, because that's what people care about.
If you want those record breaking box office bucks you gotta them original cast members.
>>63982492
One system does not a republic make. This is why at least the title crawl or 5 minutes of the movie should have been taken to establish a galactic state of being. Because the promo material does not mesh with the movie at all.
>its a death star because its round and shoots stuff
at least it was more original than the crap in rotj
>>63982516
>They travel in a single beam and then split when they get close to their target?
Something like that.
>>63982458
>tangible nuclear missile vs. sentient energy beam
the fact someone would even posit such a response really, truly (honestly) should result in their deportation and gifting to "ISIS"... sincerely
>>63982458
It's a LASER.
They travel in a SINGLE DIRECTION until acted upon by a force.
MIRVs are solid projectiles which are acted upon by forces such as friction and specific impulse of the rocket itself. Hence in your example they would split
>>63982612
>One system does not a republic make
It's not the entire republic, it's just where the senate and fleet resides. They clearly state this in the film.
>>63982619
Those are warheads with guidance systems.
Not beams of energy
>>63978761
Absolutely. I aactually cringed, but luckily he redeemed himself in the rest of the film.
>>63982552
but look how well they are spinning their lightsabers. isn't that great?
and we also see Yoda do backflips while having a lightsaber fight with bela lugosi. wasn't that really awesome when he did those backflips?
>>63982552
>104 Juche is coming to an end
>not realise that that scene is meant to be a show of how carried both Anakin and Obi-Wan are with their knowledge of styles and stances and that they need to let the emotion in to fight each other
>>63982552
>this is useless
they're imbued with about as much Force that was ever in a single place in the SW universe at that time... I think they could have danced the jig and it still could have been somehow qualified
...as opposed to a dilettante dyke going god mode
>>63982652
No they fucking do not. Show me webm where that happens. Literally nobody could name that system leaving the theatre, and half thought it was coruscant.
>>63982682
>a wisecrack from a dashing, confident, irreverent ace fighter pilot character is out of place
le cringe xD
>>63982643
>It's a LASER.
>They travel in a SINGLE DIRECTION until acted upon by a force.
not quite -- until its path is IMPEDED or the beam is refracted / deflected
but the 'science' of sci-fi is immaterial... the issue is the inane scripting, direction and thought processes involved in the wroughting of such a schlock
>>63982715
>going god mode
>knocks a guy backwards until he falls
yeah, thats much more OP than flipping around like a fucking retard
>>63982751
>wisecrack
It was just a shitty line. Something a child says on stage during a play.
>>63982693
>wasn't that really awesome when he did those backflips?
Yes it was. It added a layer of depth to his character, the style (backflips) itself did.
>>63982630
You are trying to make sense of a movie with space magic.
It's a visual reference, it doesn't need to make sense.
>>63977570
Why does Mike look like he'd reek of piss, shit and BO? I just get that feeling when I look at him.
>>63982726
Hux clearly says that they are going to destroy the senate and the fleet. Watch the movie again and see for yourself.
A THIRD DEATH STAR
People will actually defend this. Wow. This is why prequel haters can't be taken seriously. They also complain about jarjar but loves the ewoks
>>63977570
RLM died when they became a mouth piece for Gen X redditors
That's why Spacecop is taking so long. Mike and Jay know in thier cynical hearts they can never make anything great so they shit on others people's work just to feel better about themselves
Garbage like Feeding Frenzy and Gorilla Interrupted already proves that these hacks will never accomplish anything in their lifes
>>63982802
>It added a layer of depth to his character
>turning a wise old sage into an action figure is depth
Are you fucking kidding?
>>63982797
it sounded like something a character like Poe Dameron would actually say when he is at the mercy of someone like Kylo Ren.
do you also complain about how Han Solo didn't take things seriously enough the majority of the OT and how he made wisecracks?
TFA was no good.
RLM has changed.
it's no longer about original content, epic GETs, and win it's an endless series of reposts, perpetuated by newfags and trolls fail - and its consumption of RLM, has become an unstoppable cancer. RLM has changed.
>>63979259
>>63981699
It all makes sense
>both 4chan and Lucas got heavily inspired by asians
>both Reddit and JJ takes thier "OC" from 4chan/Lucas
>>63982940
No i am not. Turning a weird hermit monk into a brilliant strategist and fighter whose style is basically his "Do. Or do not" philosophy in practical form and who has damn good reason to exile himself is depth. Your only argument against it is NOT MUUUUUUUUH. Get over it.
>>63982778
Apologies, have to brush up on optics.
Much like the explanation, the film was indeed flawed.
>>63982552
the only thing that lacked emotion or realism was REY. REY as a character is literally dull, uninteresting and over powered for no reason at all. The battle between Anakin and Ben was more compelling to me than Rey out force uses Kylo.
>>63982940
no, he is not kidding.
another part I liked about the prequels was the lightsaber fight between maul and gin and kenobi. it was hella fucking epic. the fights in the OT always felt sooooooooo fucking boring. like, who fucking cares? lol.
>>63983022
>mfw RLM has become the very same thing they fought agaisnt.
>>63983178
Stay mad. You are not Star wars fan, you are Plinkett's whore. And you know it better than i do.
>>63983171
Rey performance shows all the emotions involved really well. JJ also knows exactly when close ups are necessary and when the emotion can be seen just in the way she swings the sword.
>>63983178
Fuck RLM for suggesting otherwise but even as a young child all those years ago, I found the fights to be boring as shit. Fuck Mike and his try hard shit. The best part about the Prequels were the saber duels, fuck anyone who says otherwise.
>>63983131
why did Yoda need the cane then?
also, backflips = brilliant strategist and fighter
he came across like a senile doofus in the prequels.
>>63983261
>>63983290
Yeah guys they were hella epic!!!!!!!!!
>>63983265
Rey was a cookie cutter princess that had as much depth as a bucket of piss. Padme was stiff as shit in AOTC but in ROTS she becomes more compelling to me and as wooden as she still was, she was way more interesting than Rey ever was.
>>63983261
>>63983290
>mad little kids
>>63980023
This is the sort of person who wants the opening crawl to be the novelization.
>>63983363
>but in ROTS she becomes more compelling to me
maybe if you have brain damage
>>63983363
Why? What depth did she have?
>>63983261
>plinkett invented all of the criticisms against the prequels
>before plinkett, nobody criticised the prequels
>if I share an opinion with someone else, I must abandon that opinion
oh wow. plinkett just happened to perfectly encapsulate everything that was wrong with the prequels, and do it in a humorous way.
>you're not a real star wars fan :(
lel yeah boo hoo I don't unconditionally and uncritically accept all things star wars.
>>63983322
The Force for Yoda young one is putting on your gloves, your trunks before going into a ring to box. you don't wear your fucking gloves to bed or when taking a bath, now would you? That Cane is for a frail old man, but when he's imbued with the force, temporarily Yoda is in that ring with his gloves on. Much like a boxer, going a few rounds means that his stamina will begin to wane at a point.
>>63977956
his fucking nose is massive
>>63983290
Agreed.
The fights in the OT sucked. They weren't even fights, just random blows with the lightsabers.
Suddenly Luke gets mad and SMASH SMASH SMASH, he's just beaten Vader somehow.
TFA is just so devoid of soul
>>63983529
The shot where Rey gets her force on during the battle with Kylo has more soul than all three prequels combined.
>>63983529
where was the soul in the prequels, where every shot is as sparse and dull as a hospital room?
>>63983592
please let this be bait
>>63983290
There's nothing try hard about liking fights that actually have some emotion to them. Qui Gon Jin and Darth Maul were both complete blanks basically. I mean, I'll be fair and admit that the Duel of the Fates was amazing and that part with the red transparent walls was good, but it was over-choreographed to the point where it felt like you were watching professional dancers who had been practicing for weeks and weeks rather than people who were trying to kill/defeat each other.
>>63983592
Everything has more soul than the prequels, so what?
>>63983322
Because Force is his powerful ally, and like with every ally, you cannot rely too much on it or bother it with every task. You dont light a cigarette with a flamethrower. Jesus, you plinkettfags are stupid and cannot understand a single thing unless it is verbalized by old wise jedi.
>>63983328
Yes they were. Also, what was shown in the PT (Quai-Gon just takes a moment to meditate, Obi-Wan is more angry and furious, but follows the teachers example and Maul behaves like lion on a cage) with imagery alone says pretty much about the characters.
>Jesus, you plinkettfags are stupid and cannot understand a single thing unless it is verbalized by old wise jedi.
>>63983592
This is soul to you? A 10-second closeup of her face while she closes her eyes, breathes deeply and Kylo politely waits? It was about as subtle as the death star III plotline
>>63983382
You kids. But seriously, back in the day there were these martial arts films that everyone would talk about. old abbots fighting a dozen men or more with is sword twirling it around with speed and precision and blinding furousity. then there were the ot films and their geriatric way of fighting. so bland, so boring, so slow. but you kids just stay right where you are on RLM and Mike's cock like the proper followers of all things plinket which a great many of you obviously are.
>>63983467
that's a terrible analogy. can you link me to the wookiepedia article on this, because it makes no sense. maybe they can explain it better.
>>63977687
Fuck off, Mike. Go suck JJ's dick.
>>63983654
> he says the prequels are bad MUST BE A RLM FAN
oof. Those are nice little character bits, but there are very few bits like that. Lucas by ROTS just gave Anakin a scar and called it a day.
>>63983529
it has about as much ''soul'' as a 400 trillion dollar PG-13 blockbuster can have. it has more soul that the prequels at any rate.
>>63977570
Mike is just tsundre for Lucas.
The first issue is that the new cast can't act
The second issue is that the characters are terribly cast
The Glaring issue is that the story was written by a fifth grader and would get a D
>>63983416
>>63983433
if you watched the prequels you'd see that politicians from Naboo are really reserved...hell everyone from Naboo's reserved in how they act and what they say.....By the third film you could see an emotional Amidala and Sheev. Both characters were, coming out of their shells.
You forget
>shitting on Star trek generations for having original cast members
>OK with Solo and Leia
>>63983400
This is the sort of person who want it to make fucking sense.
>>63983382
>umad)))
>no umad)))
>>63983436
>EVRUTHEWNG with prequels is shit!
>okay, this obviously isnt and this may be controversial, but this and that are just different from the OT and that was done good! what are you speaking about in particular?
>EVWRUTHEWNG!!!! You cannot even prove me wrong lol
That's the kind of shit i am dealing here.
I love how desperate the EU/prequel cucks are getting, because the financial success of TFA means that there is no hope of any of their fanfic-tier garbage will ever be restored to the canon. Eat shit, retards.
>>63983782
? Why couldn't it match this then? Not even the music had soul in TFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHqdESArkqU
Disney just doesn't care enough
>>63983474
THIS FUCKING SCENE IS WHY REY IS SUCH BULLSHIT. ALL THAT SHIT ABOUT HIM BEING WOUNDED AND WEAKENED BECAUSE OF SAID WOUND IS PURE AND UTTER SHIT. LOOK AT KYLO! HE'S A GOD SMASHING A FUCKING WORM, UNTIL THAT IS, MARY SUE REY COMES ONTO THE SCENE AND SUDDENLY, HE'S NOT AS AWESOME. FUCK THE FORCE AWAKENS...THE PREQUELS WERE BETTER THAN THIS SHIT.
>>63983782
>dogshit has more fibre in it than horseshit
yum yum
give the bloke time.
they filmed that bit right after seeing the film. a lot of us enjoyed the time we spent with it as far as a throwaway experience goes, some of us even managed to convince ourselves that it was everything we wanted for hours after.
it's when the last strands of hype leave your system and you look back on what actually happened that you realize what an uninteresting calculated corporate exercise of self reverential emptiness it is.
but then, he did like the new jurassic park too so fuck knows.
>>63983881
Lol u mad a girl beat him
>>63983864
I hope this is bait because TFA is precisely fanfic-tier garbage
>>63977570
I hope you find your safe space someday faggot.
>>63983963
Well argued. I'm convinced.
>>63983638
So you missed the part where Maul kept smirking at them and smiling and Qui Gon looked a irritated that he couldn't get through Maul's defences. If you'd remember, just before Qui Gon started meditating he looked incredibly perturbed. And who can forget that emotional stare Obi Wan gave Maul as Maul looked at Obi wan tauntingly. But of course plinkett and his shit has everyone thinking Mike's way, so whatever.
>>63983802
>The first issue is that the new cast can't act
This above all things isn't true.
>>63983881
User confirmed Kylo Ren
Remind him that he got beat up by a girl
>>63983654
first, stop with the awful, idiotic analogies.
the whole point of original Yoda was to demonstrate that being ''strong'' and using the Force isn't just about being physically strong. and it isn't just about Yoda, but also about developing Luke's personality when he first meets Yoda.
but yeah ok, Yoda is actually just walking around with a cane but he can switch to the force any time he wants and he can start jumping around like a mexican jumping bean.
>>63983918
I agree, they filmed this at 4 in the morning. I'm sure a plinkett review is coming next with real insight to make up for their embarrassment.
>>63983722
the force, young one, is when you have to run. based on your stamina and girth you're either going to run for a long time, or just so far and stop. Yoda's not always imbued with the force but he can be when it's called for him to be so. It's like having sex, your penis isn't always filled with a lot of blood but it is almost always during happy time. Force is the same way. The prequel Novels that George wrote and Novelist put in Novel form speaks of how Force users for the briefest of moments could extend their force sense and wrap themselves in their persuasions of the force.
>>63977687
>>63977863
Fuck off you faggot.
Besides the shit stain that was TPM, I think the prequels were the best thing to happen to Star Wars. It gave us the Clone Wars and the Grand Army of the Republic, the 501st Legion, and gave so much added lore to the artillery, armored vehicles and regiments/ranks in the Star Wars universe.
I'm fucking glad Mr. Plinshit wasn't behind the making of the prequels either. He wanted the turn the clone wars into a 15 minute section where people fight Uruk-hai Orcs. He also wanted to scrap Coruscant all together.
Original trilogy had the better story, the prequels made the Star Wars setting even better.
>>63984015
Rey acted as if she was doing a bit at a penny theater
Poe acted like he was in a 70's detective show
Finn Pauses after every line like it's a high school play
only Ren did a good job and he was the worse written character
The commander did alright but he was not nearly authoritative enough for me to buy him as a leader.
>>63983861
but I never said everything about the prequels was shit famalam, just everything about your post.
>>63983759
I actually find it fun that the only thing in your defense is
>but i am not RLM fan!
>there are very few bits like that
The lightsabers appearing at the crowd at the arena? The ring of sabers getting smaller and smaller as they switching off when jedi falling? Greevous advancing on Obi-Wan like unstoppable war machins that he is, yet limping in other time, much like Yoda?
>but every single moment like this is not narrated by either Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan's spirit, Yoda or Palpatine!
>>63977570
>listening to Reddit Letter Media
Why would you listen to a bunch of dumb fat drunks who can't even make a good movie.
You should listen to someone like Max Landis. Max Landis has actually made movies that are better than Citizen Kane like American Ultra and Victor Frankenstein. He knows how to make good movies. He knows women belong in the kitchen and not the battlefield. His dad is famous.
>>63977687
This honestly.
>>63983852
I think a lot of that is how Kirk gets involved in the Generations story. Han is looking for the Falcon for years and Rey steals it. That's still stupid but way more acceptable than that Nexus bullshit. Also Kirk dies a shitty death while Han at least will be used as Kylo conflict later.
>>63983638
>Qui Gon Jin and Darth Maul were both complete blanks basically
Dialogue is not the only way to learn about a character. Darth Maul may not say much but we knew exactly who he was : a sith barbarian, eager to show the jedi the power of the dark side. We know he trained all his life for this moment. We know he is on the dark path entirely and there is no doubt in his mind.
>over-choreographed
The jedi aren't supposed to fight like everyone else. They are supposed to be masters, and when we look at the masters of our world, we obviously come to think of martial arts movies, hence the inspiration.
>>63984199
hi max
>>63984013
yeah, too bad they didn't actually physically manifest any of that. there was no change in the fighting style, it was all so obviously carefully choreographed.
yes, the actors did a good job with what they had. but every time they showed some extreme emotion, they just continued business as usual. Obi Wan storms out after the red thing goes away, and obviously he's emotional, but it's just as mechanical and impersonal as before.
>>63984277
hi Doug
>>63984169
What defense? You assumed one thing that wasn't true and I corrected you.
Those bits sem more like character inconsistencies than intentional decisions. Why didn't Grievous advance on them when confronted earlier in the movie?
>>63984121
>gave us EU bullshit
>more important than the movies themselves being good
disgusting
>>63984169
yeah, *Grievous had four, FOUR(!), lightsabers in his hand and was spinning them SO FAST!! was that awesome when he spun the really really fast?I did like his design though
They were paid by Disney
Disney didnt want them doing another plinkett so they payed them off
RLM are poor so they would def sell thier souls for a mil or even less
Hell maybe even no money payed at all but their Hollywood friends were like don't mess with Disney
>I post on 4chan and therefore must hold contrarian edgy beliefs about everything
>>63984384
nobody is going to deny a million, that shit is based
>>63984043
>first, stop with the awful, idiotic analogies.
Says the guy who brings a mexican jumping bean.
>the whole point of original Yoda was to demonstrate that being ''strong'' and using the Force isn't just about being physically strong
And Yoda in prequels demonstrates exactly that, only this time it is about developing his personality, not Luke's or Anakin's.
>Yoda is actually just walking around with a cane but he can switch to the force any time he wants
Exactly. Not think a bit more about why he doesnt do that and more importantly - why he clearly doesnt want to do it unless shit is really serious.
Qui Gon/Obi Wan vs. Maul isn't boring because the actors aren't emoting enough, it's boring because there's no personal connection between them
>>63983947
>>63984031
not a girl you fucking retards but a nobody, a desert scavenger who suddenly can use force powers even better than a force practicisioner. Fucking idiots all! The Bride from Kill Bill had her shit pushed in for years while she trained with Pai Mei. And became such an accomplished Master that Grand Master old Abbot Pai Mei taught her his secret forbidden technique. Never once was I ever overcome with the idea that beatrice was a Mary Sue because she EARNED HER FUCKING BADASSNESS. but not Mary Sue Rey though, she can do all things so as long as she believes, FUCKING, DISNEY, TIARA, PRINCESS BULLSHIT!
>>63984262
I am not talking about dialogue necessarily. Darth Maul was just Badass Villain Man, there was nothing interesting about him. Nor was there anything that interesting about Jin. It just need that something, that something that would humanize them in some way.
>the jedi aren't supposed to fight like everyone else.
yes but they're still supposed to fight like human beings. the only precedent we have is the OT, and there there was actual emotion. when Luke starts recklessly attacking Darth Vader it wasn't pointless. he ''dipped'' into the dark side. it was a genuine character moment. not ''oh, but Darth Maul smirked at one point.''
>>63984283
it wasn't obviously carefully choreographed because Kali, does the very same thing, you're hitting sticks repeatedly until your opponent hits you a bit faster or vice versa.
>>63984443
>she can do all things so as long as she believes
literally the point of Star Wars
>>63984135
I have never seen anyone be this wrong. Literally no sentence you wrote was correct.
>>63983802
Han had some seemingly forced lines.
Rey couldnt act to save her life. Thank God that Kylo and Finn outshined their fellow actors and put on great preformances.
>>63984432
Each side was trying to prove their way was the best. In a way, the winning side would have their ideology justified. Those stakes are high enough for me.
motion in film = emotion > character drama
>>63984574
That argument holy shit. No.. No it's impossible!
>>63984326
>Those bits sem more like character inconsistencies than intentional decisions.
Why?
>Why didn't Grievous advance on them when confronted earlier in the movie?
Because shitty writing. Or maybe something was explained about it in the novel, i dont know, still shitty writing in that part.
>>63984371
You forgot the greentext marker. Someone may even think that you are really think that. You dont want to confuse them while making strawmans here, now do you? Make sure to use it next time, friend.
>>63984199
Fuck, that kid knows a lot about movies, he made american ultra!
>>63984616
Here are my arguments
Rey was good
Poe was good
Finn was good
Ren was good
The commander was good
Oh shit, i just fixed your entire post! All i needed was a brain, and not being a retard who thinks he sounds smart when he says people can't act!
>>63981963
While I agree that the casting and sound design were very good elements in the prequels, I disagree with the rest of your list. The CG was good quality, but was implemented poorly and overused. The duel of fates battle (not the music) lacked any emotional background to the fighting, and darth maul has almost no character, so beyond him being bad there is no reason to feel invested in the fight. Plus, the opera scene was one of my least favourite scenes. It was just, too blatant. I couldn't suspend my disbelief that a cunning and deceitful leader of the sith would just so openly disclose that he is a sith lord like a total retard. Instead of making his plans work for him, he bets on the jedi being super retards and only bringing 4 of them to fight as well as not detaining anakin as well as not taking measures to spread public awareness as well as anakin coming back. Compared to how guilful he is in empire it's just lazy and ridiculous
>>63984527
Bull Fucking Shit! Everyone, EVERYONE until MARY SUE REY earned their fucking badges. Don't come with that shit. the force isn't some i believe i can fly bullshit, you train, practice, and earn your fucking keep.
until now that is, good job j.j.
>>63984754
You must be a writer for episode VII
Because god damn that is some 5th grade bants
>>63984517
>It just need that something, that something that would humanize them in some way.
Like putting the whole mission, even the position in council, in danger to get Anakin the jedi training and basically starting it anyways, acting like father to a boy? Or, if you talking about the fight, a moment of peaceful meditation in the middle of it?
>>63984794
Says the guy who throws around a bunch of buzzwords to sound smart.
Saying the acting in the movie was bad is just plain wrong. It's a fact. Not amazing, but certainly not bad. Unless you compare it to the sequels, in that case, give everyone in 7 an oscar.
I know hating anything that is popular is very cool, but you have to learn to not sound retarded when you do it.
>>63983881
Even though its REEEE-worthy you've got a good point.
Rey undermines the whole of the movie by being incapable of failure.
>>63984919
I could go in depth if you want albeit not in this thread as it's going to 404.
But yeah... you have no idea why it's good but... IT'S BETTER THAN THE PREQUELS SO IT'S GOOD LALA
that's how you sound. Come back with an actual argument as to how the acting is good and I am wrong then we'll talk
>>63984121
This is what I thought, and then I rewatched the prequels
>Shit script/dialogue
>Shit acting
>Bland cinematography
Lucas has cool ideas but he seriously just sucks ass at making movies.
TFA despite being small-scale and safe is a much better film than 1 and 2 and at least on par with 3.
>>63978087
In 2 years.
>>63984994
Is Luke a Mary Sue in Star Wars?
>>63985063
>Gets ass kicked
>Needs to train
>Gets ass kicked
>Needs to train
no
>>63985013
>TFA...small-scale
In what way?
>>63984517
Wait I thought that Jedi were a sort of super human when using the force to boost themselves in a fight.
I've always used that as a way to explain away some of the odder movements in the Prequels. The movie is slowing down the action so we can see it when they are actually a whirlwind of movement. Imagine Sheev spinning five times as fast when he leaps at people, like a hurricane.
>>63985103
In terms of world building/lore
>>63977570
>Where were you when RLM died and became a glorified Disney advertising channel?
I was at home. This is how I felt when I was watching their video. Didn't expect them to say they hatted it but to give it such a positive review was SOUL CRUSHING.
Soul Crusing and this is coming from a person who isn't even that big of a Star war fan.
>>63977687
>theres nothing good about the prequels
Please leave. If anything they gave us something new unlike this New Hope remake staring Mary Sue white girl and chubby black guy.
>>63984135
Ren did do a great job. Props to him.
>>63985063
>Gets rekt by a training droid when he first starts using the lightsaber
>Has to get bailed by Obi-Wan numerous times in 4
>Gets rekt by the Yeti and has to get rescued by Han
>Needs a week of intense training under one of the great jedi masters to do trivial shit with the force
>Gets rekt by Vader in 5
>Gets rekt by the Emperor in 6 and has to be saved by Vader
>>63985319
good goy
>>63985063
He gets fucking bodied when he first fought vader. No.
>>63985358
This thread is going to die soon so I don't have time to fully respond, but my question was about the first SW "A New Hope", not the entire OT.
I would argue that Luke was just as charmed as Rey in his introductory film.
>>63985139
It's more important to re-establish characters we haven't seen in 30 years. Disney will be making Star Wars for decades. There's plenty of opportunity for new lore to be established in the future.
