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ITT: Alternate universe where Luke was a Mary Sue who BTFO Vader in A New Hope and Star Wars fans defend it like they defend Rey beating Kylo Ren
>Vader was an old man and Luke was in his prime, of course Luke would win!
>Vader hadn't fought anyone properly for 20 years, it makes total sense that his skills were so rusty he could be beaten!
>Vader just fought Obi-Wan who wasn't even trying, it makes sense he would get caught off-guard.
>Luke just saw Obi-Wan killed in front of him,he probably had more than enough rage to beat Vader!
Luke is a mary sue in the first movie.
>>63948987
as is annie in TPM. but midiclorians
>>63947963
Rey would never kill her brother.
>>63948987
If that was true he would have killed the trash monster with his bare hands, saved Leia by himself, protected Han Solo, piloted the Falcon with ease, and out forced Obi-Wan Kenobi during training, and blew up the death star by shooting through Darth Vader's Tie fighter.
>>63947963
he still BTFO Vader in Ep. 6 with very little training
>>63947963
But Kylo Ren isn't like, a strong sith lord like darth vader was?
>>63948987
luke was a whiny fuck up who didn't do shit without the force and ben kenobi picking up the slack. even more so in empire where he tries and fight vader and save his friends all by himself, walking facefirst into an obvious trap. compare that to where he is in ROTJ all black suited-out and with his green lightsaber
>>63948987
>beaten up by a tuskan sand raider and needed an old man to save him
What is it like to live your life in denial.
There is a difference between protagonist and mary sue anon.
>>63948987
>Beaten by Tusken Raiders
>Almost had his ass kicked in a bar fight till Ben stepped in
>Han thought he was an idiot upon meeting him
>Saved by a Droid when he was about to be crushed in a trash compacter
>Told to run like a bitch by Ben later when Vader was coming
>Almost killed by Vader later till Han stepped in
I totally see your point man. He was super good at everything he did and was loved by everyone.
so are the mods banning all the racist threads
>>63949065
but luke is just out of nowhere a better pilot than the best of the rebels
i think the forced awakens has finally shown people how fucking average star wars has always been
>>63949575
So Luke has one exceptional trait and is otherwise average or below average? What a Mary Sue!
>>63948987
>Gets wrecked by Sand people, Obi Wan saves him
>About to get into a bar fight, Obi Wan saves him
>Han mocks him
>Tries the light saber vs a droid and gets tazed
>goes to save Leia
>Leia mocks him
>the rescue mission is a disaster and his mentor dies
>attacks the death star
>only succeeds because of Obi Wans guidance and because Han saves him
A Mary Sue is not a hero who after lots of failure succeeds at one thing and only then with a lot of help you fucking moron
>>63948987
You're a dumbass
