What are some Mary Sues?
>>63936064
Except bondage is WWs weakness you fucking pleb so no
>>63936140
That's not true since the 40s, pleb
>>63936064
A Super Hero or a "le chosen one" cant be a mary sue, because there is a reason they are so strong.
A Mary sue is Kirito from Sword Art Online, a faggot who always has the upper hand and only looses when the enemy straight up cheats. Every girl he meets falls in love with him despite him being just a regular guy.
>>63936291
She will be a Mary Sue in BvS. It's a fact.
>>63936183
That is still true. You are the pleb taking Azzs run at face value.
>>63936494
They even made a joke about it in the 90s with her villains thinking bonding her would work
Plebeian of the highest degree
>>63936064
You mean Mary Jews right?
>>63937042
Sarah Jews
>>63936541
This isn't the 90s kid and you don't read comics
>>63936064
Batman is the true Mary Sue of DC Comics
>>63936064
Eragon from the books
>>63937354
This. He's actually one of the biggest Mary Sues in all fiction
>>63937354
I'm not saying Wonder Woman by herself is a Mary Sue (even though she is a lot of times, specially in teams), but she will most definitely be a Mary Sue in BvS
>>63936064
Pic related.
>>63938080
>Always right
>Supreme plot armor
>Perfect at everything
>Worshipped by all in universe characters
>literal author insert
>>63938080
Why are male power fantasies praised, but female ones constantly derided?
>>63938080
He's so much of a Mary Sue that it's almost ironic
>>63938192
>Why are male power fantasies praised, but female ones constantly derided?
Because the audience who says that is generally male.
They can self insert in ridiculously skilled male characters, but ridiculously skilled female characters threaten their self esteem.
>>63936064
I legitimately like the books up to like 9-10, even though she was very Mary Sueish, because the ship battles and other characters were enjoyable. Then the series went to shit
>>63936064
Is she with you?
>>63938192
You have to remember that these were pulp material. They weren't "real" literature. They were aimed at juveniles and children or older readers looking for escapism.
You EXPECT Mary Sues in this sort of material. It's like reading Twilight and getting mad that it just seems to cater to tween girl sex and romance fantasies.
James Bond and Tarzan are just better examples of the genre. There's heaps of forgettable trash in the same field.
That said, I was never a fan of James Bond as it's an idea that gets old quick.
And that's also why they lowered the Mary Suism in the new films.
Same with Batman and the like. Audiences generally roll their eyes at this sort of writing now.
It's why it stood out so bad in the new Star Wars.
>>63938284
Not really.
Most adult males who aren't intellectually disabled aren't praising James Bond as anything but male power fantasy escapism.
