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Daily reminder: if it weren't for TR-8R getting shot by Han, Finn would have had his ass whopped and dead by now. This in turn means, TR-8R is stronger than Kylo Ren.
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And now he'll come back more powerful than we could ever imagine.
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If it was TR-8R in the woods instead of Kylo they wouldn't stand a fucking chance
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Finn lost to Kylo though.
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http://webmshare.com/play/zYWYw

Best scene in the movie, so based
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>>63922516
Yes, but he gave him a fight. TR-8R gave Finn a one man lynch.
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Finn got his ass kicked. If you watch the fight Kyle basically toys with him until Finn gets a lucky hit in and then Kyle immediately shuts him down.
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>>63922412
>sees Finn with a lightsaber
>could just shoot him
>decides to drop his rifle and fight honorably

How can one storm trooper be this based?
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Fun fact: He's actually played by Tom cruise.
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>>63922538
>TRAITOR

What did he mean by this?
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So this was supposed to be Phasma but they decided to keep her around like they did with Poe, right? Otherwise I just can't understand why they went out of their way to make this random trooper so badass.
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>>63922669
Troopers in general have a lot more personality in this one
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>>63922589

>fights honorably
>gets sucker punched by solo when he's about to win

betrayed twice.
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>>63922589
TR-8R is God tier, no wonder he is gonna be a Knight of Ren in the next movie
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>>63922689
Because they aren't clones.
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>>63922538
this and Poe soloing several Ties and ground troops in the same battle
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>>63922744
love it
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>>63922744

that weapon looks so awkward.
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>>63922627
Isn't he a little short for a stormtrooper?
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>tfw TR-8R will be in a Lego set
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>>63922541
Kylo was BTFO by Chewy with the bolt caster and he was ver emotional after killing Han
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>>63922412
Weapon looks like a crutch.

So this is the affirmative action hire for people with disabilities. Neat.
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>>63922412
I hope he comes back as Finn's nemesis
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>>63923485
>Kylo was BTFO by Chewy with the bolt caster

So he should have broken Finn's neck with the Force instead of trying to duel with him for 5 minutes.
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>>63923542
It takes Sheev level skill to do that in the middle of a fight, and we know he sure as fuck doesn't have that
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>>63922412
Spin-off when?
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>>63923381
>tfw you take off his helmet and it's either just an indescript black head block, or a casual expression yellow head block, that doesn't do justice to his rage at the TRAITOR.
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>>63923654
Does it really? The guy can freeze a bitch in place, can make a guy fly and stop a laser bolt in midair but he can't break someone's neck?
Yeah no.
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>>63922412
please answer my question
why finn cut through a trooper armour, and with the same light saber it clashes against TR-8R's armour? it makes no sense. Why doesn't he cut his arm in two halves?
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>>63923381
TR-8R mania is taking over
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>>63923772
All of those were blunt applications when he wasn't under stress or immediate danger.
When he was bleeding on the floor being charged at while dealing with murdering his own father was not such an occasion.
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>>63923772
I dunno if he was in the right state of mind to channel the dark side
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>>63922412
He was a true patriot
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>the white stormtrooper gets beaten by the strong black man

what do they mean by that?
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Kyle was shot by chewies crossbow blaster though and made obvious reference to his injury to during the fight.
/thread
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>>63923542
he was obviously toying with Finn and tried to humiliate him by showing how to handle a lightsaber when Finn got his lucky strike Kilo finished him quickly
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>>63923906
please answer ;_;
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>>63924089
>gets beaten
May want to rewatch it.
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Man I just realized they Made this badass trooper to sell toys.
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>>63924189
>his toys sell well
>Disney realise they can milk the cash cow if they make him an established character rather than a type of trooper
>mfw we use the power of Judaism to get TR8R into the next movie
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>>63923906
If I remember correctly, the only thing he clashes with, is TR-8R's beating stick, which seemed to have some lightningly thing going on, which reminded me of those droid sticks from the start of RotJ. You know, those electro-stick things that the droids used which kept going after they lost their head.
It looks like it was shielded by whatever that is. It's also probably why getting hit launched Finn so far.
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>>63923992
>>63923918
But he was in a right state of mind to sword-fight for 10 minutes with Finn and Rey.
Come on, you know it's BS.

That wound wasn't so bad apparently considering how much he was hitting it like a fucking retard.
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>>63922654
Its his war cry before honourable combat.

He screams his name Tray Tor in glory.
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>>63922541
Kylo was toying with Finn. Stormtrooper wasn't.
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>>63924262
Sword fighting is just swinging a sword around, we know that the force requires a very specific state of mind from Ep V
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>>63924262
What, so him clearly struggling with his sword fighting somehow means that he'd be more able to use the force?
How does that make sense to you?
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Seriously, was this guy autistic or something? He just randomly yells out his name. Was he a pokemon fan?
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>>63924375
As >>63924265 said, it was an honour thing.
He wanted Finn to know that it was he, TR8R, that was his doom.
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>>63924375
He wanted Finn to tell his ancestors in Valhalla that it was TR-8R who sent him to his doom
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>>63922412
Just a copy from Xcom 2 Stun Lancer
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>>63924189
Nigga every toy sell well, I have a fucking AT&T pilot toy.
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>>63924245
this is high level analysis, upvoted!
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TELL ME ABOUT TR-8R
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?
A LOT OF LOYALTY FOR A HIRED GUN!
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>>63924262
Samurai used to pound their wounds, so as to reduce pain, and cause swelling that slows the bleeding. Dark side force users gain strength from pain.

What he was doing seems to make sense.
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>>63924262
he kept punching the wound chewie gave him to keep his rage and adrenaline up
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>>63922412
Fuck off you normie memeing faggots.
>muh star wars
Fucking shut your memeing cunt mouths. All you faggots do is meme.
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>>63922412
Finn got his ass whooped by Kylo, though.

Kylo =?= TR-8R > Finn
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>>63924329
>we know that the force requires a very specific state of mind from Ep V
We know Luke was a learner and had a hard time making large objects levitate.
Here we know Kylo can stop a laser bolt while doing something else.

>>63924342
All I'm saying is if he really is struggling with his injury he should have gone for the fastest way to off them. An injury that doesn't stop him from fighting and using strength to win against Finn isn't that bad and he should be able to use his powers.
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>>63924684

The legend says his grandfather worked on the first DeathStar and died when it blowed up. Since then he hates the rebels, the jedi, the republic and the resistance.

When he saw his old friend Finn fighting with the resistance and killing another trooper with a Jedi weapon he couldn't bear it anymore.


His name was Traytor.
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>>63924766
It's clear that TR-8R was Kylo's teacher in close combat.
>kicks ass in melee
>wasn't even a contest when he fought Finn
>was dishonorably murdered (or so we think)
>Kylo is in clear anguish over his death (as evidenced by shouting his name as a battlecry) and prolonged the fight as a result.
>Snoke mentions he needs to complete his training since his teacher has gone
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>>63924727
>>63924743
>Dark side force users gain strength from pain.

Exactly, that's why he should be able to use the Force.
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>>63924893
>Kylo is in clear anguish over his death (as evidenced by shouting his name as a battlecry)
Kek
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>>63923381
Someone photoshop this to say TR-8R
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>tfw one random stormtrooper was more memorable than the hero character he was fighting
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>>63924938
>Exactly, that's why he should be able to use the Force.

Sith lords with training can gain strenght from pain.

Dark jedis withouth Sith training can't.
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This is the only thing I remember from this shit movie.
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>>63924835
>His name was Traytor
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>>63924893
People have long predicted a mentor figure like Obi Wan and Qui-Gon would die in this movie. They tried to pin this on Han, but he wasn't actually anyone's mentor. Now we know it was honorable senpai TR-8R.
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>>63923752
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>>63925084
>he hits his wound to gain strength from pain except he can't do that

Make up your mind already.
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>>63925151
>Lor San Tekka refused our offer in favor of your's, we had to find out what he told you
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Weren't you all ripping on how stupid this guy looked for months on end? Now he's cool?

I mean yeah he's fucking cool holy shit those massive balls
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>>63924831
>while doing something else

That's a good point. Is Kylo the first Force-user we've seen to multitask or leave the Force "on" while doing something else? I think so, and we were shown that at least twice in this movie.
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>>63925229
>Now he's cool?
This dumb Disney intern. It's mocking an awful scene.
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>>63925028
The Boba Fet Effect
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>>63925288
>This dumb Disney intern
I wish I was a dumb Disney intern. Bet you do, too.
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>>63925028
Reminds me of a movie that came out a few years ago where a random bit part character became more famous than the rest of the movie
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>>63925350
Only if I get to be blonde and busty too.
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>>63925374
It's 2015, anon. You can be anything you want.
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I honestly want to see this guy appear in the next one
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>>63925417
>Traytor gets promoted, has his own squadron of elite badasses with sick spin batons
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>>63924241
kek. Underated post.
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Fin: COME GET IT! (Runs towards enemy)
theyre doing it wrong
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>>63925626
They did it wrong
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>>63922744
>Darth vaders lightsaber
You mean his son's, right?
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>>63925212
Kek
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>>63925779
Are you retarded?
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>>63925779
It was Anakin's before Obi-Wan gives it to Luke at the start of IV. That lightsaber killed countless younglings.
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>>63925849
I get his confusion really.
I mean if they're going to involve one of Luke's light sabers, they might as well make it the one that wasn't assumed destroyed/lost in the depths of a gas giant. for the better part of the last 4 decades.
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>>63922412
>TFW love shit like shock rods/batons and non-lethal weapons in video games
>TFW love shields and riot shields in video games
>TFW love honor-bound characters
>TFW watching this scene with "TR-8R"

Literally my favorite part of the movie, glad other people piked up on it too. He really is more memorable than a lot of the named characters, I don't think I'm being contrarian either.
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Zimmerman reference?
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>>63925952
i was confused. i thought anakin's saber was green
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>>63923381
These sets are even more lazy than the Jurassic world ones

At least the vehicles are good
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>>63925779
That's Anakin's 2nd lightsaber, the one he used in the Clones and fought Obi-Wan.
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>>63926083
They were given spare lightsabers on Geonosis.
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I don't lke his stupid weapon.
He looks like a fucking powerranger
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What with all the hype for captain Phasma, she sure was fucking nothing.
I bet she'll come back in the next movie.
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Is he our generation's Boba Fett?
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>>63924831
>All I'm saying is if he really is struggling with his injury he should have gone for the fastest way to off them. An injury that doesn't stop him from fighting and using strength to win against Finn isn't that bad and he should be able to use his powers.
Well, the movie also established that Kylo isn't the most level-headed character with discipline. He was just really angry and wanted to lash out and toy with Finn. Not really a state of mind to use the force in.
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>>63926199
Phasma is the new Fett

TR-8R is the new CIA
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>>63926096
Those are basically for children to get da figures you feel me? There are 5 in there which justifies spending 40 bucks or so on this set even if its a creative and aesthetic disgrace.
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>>63922412
This guy was actually cooler and had more lines than Phasma

>google Phasma
>Because Phasma will appear in Star Wars: Episode VIII[7], it is likely that she indeed did escape the implosion of Starkiller Base
I figured so but didn't know that. Neat.
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>>63923911
>>63923381
I'm not a kid.

I don't play with legos or funko.

...I want an actual action figure.

pew pew, vroom hiss, woom woom
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>>63926311
Phasma is forced though.

TR-8R, like Boba, was a minor character that the fans (i.e the herd of sweaty neckbeards) loved but Lucas didn't even really care about.
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>>63925243
It was already present in the KOTOR videogames, but it was just a ripoff of the paralysis and mass paralysis spells from D&D
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>>63926473
I want a Tray Tray daki
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>Traitor
>Trayvon
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>>63923150
>>63923492
>>63924758
>>63925102
>>63926155
I want Reddit to leave
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Who was TR-8R under the mask?
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>>63926668
>memeing in public

Ew.
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Holy shit, the stormtroopers were actually competent for once.
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>>63926726
I think some of them actually didn't miss important characters
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TRAITOR
R
A
I
T
O
R
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63926910
TRAITOOOOOOR
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>>63926910
Holy redditor, Batman!
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"TRAITOR"
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>>63926726
>stormtrooper aiming trope
Is it the armor?

Also, why do they even wear armor? It does nothing for blaster shots or lightsaber attacks.
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>>63923492
WRONG

He lost all emotions after killing Han
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>>63927114
Protects against shrapnel, against smoke apparently, probably against blunt attacks but mostly due to the fact that they look intimidating.
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>>63926704
Ben "Anakin's Got Nothing on My Sandpeople Slaughtering" Garrison
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PEW PEW
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>>63927157
>Protects against shrapnel
Does it? Alot of stormtroopers including the one that captured Finn, han, and chewie died in this film from nearby blasts.
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>>63922412
1.Flinn gained xp
2. Kylo was wounded
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>>63926910
>Let's make the weapon spin, that's a good trick.

poetry all the way .
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>>63927278
>died
Maybe they just got thrown in the air, armor can't do shit against the force of an explosion blast
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>>63927157

But it can't protect them against stones and wooden poles.
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>>63927278
Probably from the actual blast wave. This is speculation but I'd assume they are hard enough to protect against stray rocks kicked up from blaster shots.
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>>63926311

TR-8R both has cooler toys and is more beloved than Captain "Spineless Coward" Phasma.
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>>63927157
>against smoke

I can't imagine that being a huge hazard requiring more than a respirator.

The only thing I can think of would be faceless intimidation and uniformity. Just a less bulky way to do it would've been smarter, no?
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>>63927462
Yeah of course, it's mostly down to them being cool. But it's fun to speculate.
At least the first order can aim, that initial assault in the start of the movie was brutal.
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GLORIOUS BATTLE
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>>63927456
Coward, traitor, and murders prisoners with sadistic glee. Finn is a monster.
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>>63927331
Maybe he's charging his stun baton.
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New Order or Galactic Empire?
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>>63927569
Empire was more imposing and impressive.

First Order is more efficient and ruthless.
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>>63922538
Why do I remember him saying TRAITOR more emotionally than this?
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>>63927569
Empire is lame space police
Order is the third space reich
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>>63923911
Gibe TR-8R plase or I report u
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>>63922412
>Abrams keeps trying to make Phasma the new Boba Fett
>She gets cucked by some guy with a stun baton
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>>63922538
Holy shit its as bad as I thought it would be
Anyone who spent money on this should be ashamed
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>>63927785
That's what happens, you can't force a Fett
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>>63927646

Kylo says it later on too, perhaps you conflated the two scenes
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>>63927569

The New Order, because they actually managed to produce a stormtrooper worth a damn.
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63922412

I think TR-8R is the Sith Lord we've been looking for.
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>>63926311
Phasma has potential for a bigger role
No other stormtrooper can compete with crazy stormtrooper
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>>63924241
I keked genuenly.
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63922412
When that first trailer with TR-8R came out and I saw him go into the relic stance, I knew that he was going to be god-tier.
I'm glad to see other people feeling the same way.
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>>63923381
>>63926096
This does actually seem like a really phoned in set. And its probably going to be around $40 too.
And Finn's hair piece looks weird.

Also, is Maz the only character that's not trademarked?
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63924537
not at all
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>>63922412

It doesn't. Kylo was wounded and stuck to saber fighting out of honor and pride. As soon as Finn touches him, Kylo annihilates him.
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>>63922744

That's Luke's saber, you infinite moron.
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>>63926910
TRAITER
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>all white children seeing this movie will side with the First Order
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>2015
>still being in love with a TR-8R Boi
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>>63929698
He was a TR-8R boy
She said see CU-L8R boy
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>>63929430
>This infinite nigger doesn't know that this lightsaber originally belonged to Anakin Skywalker, who became Darth Vader, and it was given to Obi Wan Kenobi to Luke. Shame.
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>>63924975
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>>63929821

Can you pinpoint when this happens in the movies?
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>>63923381
wow kylos lightsaber looks like fucking crap. my Phantom Menace sets were amazing desu
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>>63924835
You mean Trey Tor?
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>>63927163
underrated
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63929901
In Episode IV, when Obi Wan gives it to Luke before going to Mos Eisley. He says that it was from his father.You gotta be trolling senpai...
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>>63930077

I remember that scene, but I'm asking when we see Anakin's saber go to Obiwan. When does this happen on the screen?
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>>63926910 >>63926932 >>63926943 >>63928051 >>63928862 >>63928908 >>63928964 >>63929137 >>63929532 >>63930008 >>63930012 >>63930035

R-eddit has officially taken over.
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>>63926910
T R A I T O R
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>>63929108
Why the hate for Maz?

I liked her alright.

She was neither annoying or overhyped.
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>>63930164

She was worse CGI than Gollum 13 years ago.
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>>63930151
TRAITOR
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>>63930139
Sorry about that, I meant to say ''by Obi Wan to Luke''.I suppose that he picked it up when he almost killed Anakin.
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>Mfw that stormtrooper Finn ganked right beforehand was TR-8R's best friend.
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does anyone have the webm of finn vs kylo?
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>>63930139
Episode 3, towards the end of the Anakin-Obi Wan duel
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>>63930164

Her face looked like it was modeled after rotting fruit. All I could think of is disgusting rotting food waste the entire time.
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>>63930164
after all the press blaming Lupita, it turns out it was just a shitty creature design that didn't fit Star Wars.
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>>63922412
This is some DBZ autistic logic right there.
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>>63930192
Really?

I didn't think so at all.

The MoS fight scenes had even worse cgi, imo, and they still looked alright.
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>>63929901
obi wan tells luke that it was his father's sword when he gives it to him
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>People complaining the Stormtrooper captain didn't do much
>Meanwhile we have this glorious bastard take out the protagonist of the film

Spin off when?
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>>63930139
Here's a link senpai.
https://youtu.be/pSwy412nttI?t=438
If the time jump doesn't work, ~7:10 is where you should start, it happens right around there.
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>>63930232
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH GIVE MY SON MY LIGHTSABER AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>63930384
>Because that would be the first time Obi-Wan said something that wasn't true
From a certain point of view
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>>63930341
>Finn
>protagonist

Unless he somehow becomes a jedi by VIII, that's not Rey.
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>>63922541
Kylo was just injured emotionally and physically. Holy shit how the fuck can you idiots not understand this plot which is made for children?
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>>63926910

TRAITOR
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>>63930222
>I suppose that he picked it up when he almost killed Anakin.

You suppose a lot. I don't think that scene ever takes place. I don't recall Obicunt picking up anything. If Obicunt later states that this was Luke's father's saber, we need to know how it got there.
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>>63930325
>I didn't think so at all.

Yeah, Maz looked like a cartoon. Gollum was far better done 13 years ago. 13 years should be enough to make major progress.
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>>63930151
>If you see this image post ____ is now reddit
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>>63927785
do you think they'll fuck?
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>>63930139

In the third movie, when Anakin burns to death
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>>63930687
Phasma ain't good enough for based TR 8R
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Daily reminder that because Hux promoted a woman to a lead position the image of Stormtroopers is undermined to the point that Snoke will listen to Whiny Ren and go back to Clones, even though guys like TR could kick Rens ass.
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>>63930363

I stand corrected, friend.

>mfw Obiwan doesn't mercy kill him
>doesn't save him

Why is Obi such a fucking cunt in every fucking movie?

Who likes him? He's a constant asshole. He lies, he conspires, he's a piece of shit.
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>>63930742
Poor LaCroix. He was much more intimidating than anyone else in the first order now he's gonna get cucked by mr long face
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>>63930754
He's kind of a dick yeah.
That's why I prefer the Auralnauts stoner version.
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>>63930754
go look up Byronic Hero m8.
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>>63926473
Then buy one.
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>>63930754
Jedi aren't good people. They're just aligned with a different side of the force.
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>#meme

just fuck our shit up
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>>63930835

>jedi
>byronic hero

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63930842
Fuck yeah.

May can't come soon enough.
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>>63925212
Adam driver is a big guy
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>>63926910
TR8R
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>>63930151
>Anakin, the Jedi are taking over!
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>>63926910
>he's a traitah!

>HE is the traitah, ahhhhh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDhK0NqXrIY
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>>63922412
The First Order had the extreme foresight to make batons that can block lightsabers, but they still designed their Death Star 3 with a weak spot that, if attacked, would blow up the entire base.
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>>63931610
To be fair, this time it wasn't a grate-sized hole on the outside of the planet.
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>>63931727
>Instead it was maybe a meter thick metal wall at the end of a trench, that could easily blown through by fighter weapons, and they could casually fly around in there, shooting at a bunch of important stuff that is on full display and without any further protection, like a second shield or something.

There's more to taking down a boss in video games than this.
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>>63931807
They had to blow it open from the inside.
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Why do storm troopers wear armor when 1 shot kills them?
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>>63922567
I like Kyle
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>>63931610

Hey, even with Finn's knowledge, there wasn't much the Resistance could do.

The plan only worked because of Captain "I'll betray my people so please don't hurt me" Phasma turning off all their shields.
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>>63931858
Those fighter blaster level weapons were shown to shred anything they hit, including turbolasers (they conviniently even take out all the turbo lasers of a Star Destroyer, and they have to use different weapons).
Granted, that's a Tie, not an X-Wing, but they seemed about equal.

How powerful do you imagine those satchel charges could have been that Han just happened to have on him?

How difficult would it have been to blow that wall down from the other side, if there were no satchel charges?
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>>63931610
>but they still designed their Death Star 3 with a weak spot that, if attacked, would blow up the entire base.

We still design nuclear plants in such a way that if there's overheating, it'll fucking explode and irradiate everything for miles around.

Some things can't be avoided.
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>>63922412
This was the worst fucking set in the entire film desu.
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>>63927114
>>63927278

According to EU and other supporting materiel from the original trilogy, the armor is designed to stop shrapnel, blunt and bladed attacks (won't don shit against a vibroblade, a laser sword, or a vibro anything really, and there is places where you can stick a normal blade between armor) and projectile based weaponry - literally slug throwers - ie Firearms - the most notable of which in the movies was the tusken raider rifle - basically according to EU firearms are still found in the galaxy and are common in places where blasters are heavily regulated, and in primitive cultures - and firearms are easier to manufacture than blasters.

Also the armor is designed to mitigate some of the wound potential of blaster shots, the point is aside from incredibly rare cortosis there isn't much that can stop a blaster and be readily worn
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63924572
>AT&T
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>>63931610
Why do they build this shit anyway?
Its literally blown up in their faces three times, why don't they just put these resources towards a bigger fleet and army?
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>>63931984
Yeah but the blasters on the X-Wings weren't going to get through that wall. Satchel charges used for that exact purpose obviously could.

I do agree that it was a bullshit Achilles heel situation.
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>>63931807
Buddy I don't think there's a pilot alive with the skill to fly into a facility, shoot it up, and fly out your just being a prick
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
TRAITOR
TRAITOR

dubs
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>>63932230

>why don't all nations give up nuclear weapons?

You can't be this retarded...
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>>63932305
Did you watch the movie?
It's literally what happens.

>>63932262
Eh maybe.
It just seems like one of those really obvious writing mistakes, where option A) doesn't work, but option B) which is just a redressed version of option A) works, and it's very off putting.
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>>63922412
When TR-8R can survive a bowcaster shot, then we'll talk.
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Has anyone not thought how a bogstandard Stormtrooper and an untrained force bitch were able to use a lightsaber to fight a trained 'Sith' (using the term Sith as I'm by sure what he is). I'd have thought they'd either get Rekt by him or injure themselves with the lightsaber.
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>>63931807
>they could casually fly around in there

It had a huge gaping wall in the side that an ace pilot managed to squeeze into.

That's like saying you can casually fly around inside a nuclear cooling tower. I guess, if you're the god damn red baron and they left a hold in the side...
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>>63932420
Yes but you made it sound like a toddler could pull it off
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>>63932472
Because Ren got shot like 10 minutes prior by a bowcaster, which had been shown to utter fucking mangle stormtroopers in a single shot
Even then Ren isn't that strong
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>>63932469
>Kylo Ren can Survive the shot but TR-8R can't
>This means Kylo is stronger
God forbid Kylo has tougher stuff for armour, than your run of the mill storm-trooper who doesn't even have an orange officer pad on his shoulder.


>>63932535
>>63932540
Once his in there? Yeah a toddler could fly around. Just look at how wide the place was.
And what if they actually still had Y-Wings and proton torpedos? How many proton torpedos do you imagine they'd have had to shoot straight down that trench to blow that entire thing to kingdom come?
If a couple of satchel charges can blow up the wall, you better believe a torpedo could do it.

Oh, but of course they didn't have Y-Wings, or torpedos.
They were less well equiped than the Rebellion on New Hope.
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>>63932151
The wookie bowcaster is essentially a projectile weapon. Granted it's technically a rail gun firing a metal projectile enveloped in plasma energy
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>>63926910
TRAITOR
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>>63932669
M8, did you see what bowcasters did to people? Kylo Ren shrugged that shit off when it was literally blowing stormtroopers up.
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>>63932472
I wouldn't even classify him as a sith.

His training isn't anywhere near complete but he does have raw force power. Since lightsaber battles are more about skill he's likely still a novice when it comes to that.

So you had Rey a novice with raw power and Ren a skilled force user but mostly raw power with a novice fencing skills.

Also he was gut shot...
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>>63932669
>God forbid Kylo has tougher stuff for armour,

Doesn't seem to have any. Also, he hits his wound, which would be pointless if he had armor.

Kylo is strong with the Force. No homo.
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>>63932669
To be fair anakin was teeming with the force, got burned alive and lost his limbs but still survived.
People stronger in the force are harder to kill.
Bowcasters are strong because they literally fire a heavy as fuck bolt of metal encapsulated in plasma energy
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>>63932722
>>63932740
Maybe you're right on that. But it seems strange to me that being strong with the force should function like some Captain America super soldier potion.
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>>63922412
>TR-8R angrily calls Finn a traitor
>Phasma angrily calls Finn a traitor
>Kylo Ren angrily calls Finn a traitor

Jesus how close was he with these guys? Is the Last Order such a tight-nit group? Why did Finn find it morally objectionable to kill on Jakku but have no remorse in killing Stormtroopers he was brought up with? Just because they're armed and militarily trained?
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>>63932822
it doesn't
you can heal yourself with the force, but i doubt either anakin or kylo could do that when they're evil
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>>63932818
Staying alive, I can buy.
But as you point out, everyone else got positively obliterated.
The Force can sustain you, but I never before saw evidence to it actually make you resistant to damage.

>>63932864
Well, this is just my opinion, but I think the way Yoda explains it, you don't really have a limitation on what you can and cannot do, regardless of what "side" you're on. You just count as a Sith/Dark Jedi if you take the easy path.

Pretty sure there are good ways to use force lightning too. Jump start a speeder, etc.
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How much does Ren cost the new order every year in terms of broken equipment?
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>>63932938
well it's just that no dark side users have ever been shown the ability to heal as far as i know

you can sustain yourself with the dark side, but they never heal themselves im pretty sure
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>>63932850
>Just because they're armed and militarily trained?
Yea, m8, the villagers wouldn't exactly fight back like the Stormtroopers were.
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>>63932938
Everyone else got shot from close or medium range.
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