Generally, people who like ROTJ like TFA.
Generally, people who dislike ROTJ dislike TFA.Prove me wrong.
ROTJ is my favorite Star Wars film and TFA is, in all honesty, my least. But you said 'generally', so I guess you can't be proven wrong
>>63897034
You're not wrong. Both are "loose" films of the series who try to have more fun and "relaxed" scenes, in contrast to the seriousness that was Empire.
>>63897034
RotJ is my favorite Star Wars film, and I'd rank TFA above ANH right now (I'm seeing it again on Wednesday with family, we'll see if it still holds up the second time).
My overall ranking is
ROTJ > ESB > TFA > ANH >>>>POWER GAP>>>> ROTS > TPM > TCW
very astute, anon
you are 100% correct
ROTJ shits on TFA you dirty jew
>>63897185
>someone actually likes TFA less than AOTC
>>63897034
That's because they're both slightly weak films.
>>63897034
I hate all the prequels but like TFA
I LIKE RotJ but it's the weakest of the original trilogy
I'd rank them
ESB > ANH > TFA > ROTJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ROTS >>>>TPM >>> AotC
>>63897185
If you think TFA is worse than the prequels you're objectively wrong, faglord. Then again, RotJ is your favorite which was basically a precursor to the prequels, all the signs were already there
I dislike ROTJ more and more every time I watch it and thought TFA was legitimately good.
>>63897034
ROTJ has around 30 different ship types, capital and fighter, bomber and speeder.
TFA has like 5 spaceships and 3 landspeeders.
ROTJ is a Star Wars fans wet dream with the Battle of Endor.
TFA is utter shit.
>>63897034
yeah i think ROTJ is actually somewhat underrated because its the worst of the OT so plebs say they like one of the prequels (usually 3 or 1) more than it so theyre not seen to overly hate the prequels.
its a legitimately good flick
>>63897327
Which is my favorite of the prequels too, how about that
>>63897034
TFA Is better than ROTJ
search your heart, you know it to be true.
But I think that revenge of the sith is just as good as ROTJ
I didn't really like rotj, I know at this point the ewoks are a meme gripe, but they really do ruin the film
There is literally no good reason they couldn't have used wookies. Could have even had enslaved wookies or something to further show just how bad the empire was
I actually quite like force awakens though, going to see it again tomorrow
>>63897376
Congrats on liking one of the worst films of all time!
>>63897379
TFA is garbage, even TPM is better than TFA
>>63897347
thanks for contributing, reddit
>>63897370
forgot to say that i definitely like TFA moreso than 1-3. Anything else and ill need much more time and analysis to decide. Its basically impossible to come TFA to other star wars movies especially the OT because i grew up with them and have seen them about 20 times over as many years and quoted them endlessly.
>>63897379
TFA doesn't have many iconic scenes, nor does it have this powerful scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RFYoZ7H67A
That, and TFA has weak character development, which earns its place behind the OT but ahead of the prequels.
>>63897432
>liking
it was a shit film like the other two (three, counting TFA), just slightly less shitty
Force Awakens is utter derivative puke. Even Reddit loathes it, let alone 4chan.
>>63897452
>labeling an objectively correct opinion as reddit
wew boy
Star wars is all shit. Nostalgia fags and try hard fags over rate this piece of garbage.
>>63897436
>even TPM is better than TFA
This is what /tv/'s contrarian nature has come to
>hurr durr TFA is brainless and mass marketed and corporate
>Phantom Menace has characters like Jar Jar solely so George could appeal to young children and sell toys
It's okay when Lucas does it
>>63897503
sup ribbit, how was the midnight screening?
>>63897498
>utter derivative puke
so, a glib facsimile?
>>63897530
Keep fooling yourself millennial.
TFA is crap. Star bluepilled and mad.
I hated every SW films but I thought TFA was one of the best things I've seen in years.
ESB > ROTS > ROTJ > TFA > ANH > POWER GAP BOYS > AOTC
people only hate rots because of muh shitty prequels but ewan mcgregor is the best actor in the series along with harrison ford and his presence carried the movie that hard
>>63897639
ESB>ANH>ROTJ>TFA>ROTS>TPM>AOTC
>>63897601
the first movie had the empire portrayed as literal nazis with no personality. it was 'bluepilled' just as much
go back to /pol/
>>63897601
>le millennial sjw reddit bluepill buzzwords meme
>actually defending the prequels just so you can appear enlightened above the "pleb masses"
V > IV = VI >> III = VIII = I > II
>>63897370
>the more shit we pile on screen the better the film
Get outta here George
>>63897034
Leia a cute. CUTE!
>>63897830
sux to be you tinfoil
TFA is shit
>>63897375
Replied to the wrong guy, meant this guy >>63897357
>>63897471
>doesn't have any iconic scenes
Time will tell if anything is iconic, you can't call something iconic after 3 days unless you're ubisoft
>>63898157
Funny, Ubisoft reminds me of the film. Manufactured digitally pretty millenial shit for the masses.
>>63898023
And she sucks a mean willy :3
>>63898189
Wew nice cultural commentary there Marx
>>63897347
hello reddit
I like ROTJ for being a great ending to a influential saga
I don't like how TFA shits on that with Han and Leia breaking up because they had an edgelord son who wipes out Luke's new Jedi order
ROTJ was boring. TFA was good.
IV>V>VII>VI
VII almost beats V because of the Hoth scenes
I to III is not canon
>>63897959
V>IV=VI>VII>>III>I>II
>>63898283
>doesn't like empire's hoth scenes
opinion invalidated
>>63897350
How the fuck is TFA better than Jedi?
So When did people decide than Clones was worst than Phantom?
anyone have a torrent for the despecialized original trilogy?
havent watched ROTJ in years
>>63898584
The Ewok bullshit is unbearable. Way too much George Lucas for my taste.
>>63897034
I'm not sure when this site became a haven for insufferable Max Landis contrarians, but I want it to stop.
The movie wasn't bad.
>>63898584
>Movie starts four fucking times with Vader on the Death Star and three different introductions to Jabba's Palace
>Tons of kiddie shit made to sell toys
>Pacing grinds to a halt in the middle third of the movie as the group wanders around Endor doing nothing
>too much emphasis on slapstick humor
>Leia and Han don't really do much throughout the entire movie
>Fucking ewoks
I can go on
I love RotJ even if it's the weakest of the OT objectively, I didn't like TFA that much
V > IV > VI > III >/= VII > I > II
I cannot confirm. I liked ROTJ and TFA but I don't know anybody to ask if they hated both, or liked one but hated the other.
>>63897244
Sounds about right. I'm cautious about my rankings because I just saw it today and I always get a bit of a movie high after seeing something I enjoyed. I'll be more rational in about a week.
At least we didn't have any Ewoks though.
>>63898714
Literally nitpicking, and how is it starting 4 times? The point is that they go in one at a time.
>>63898802
>The point is that they go in one at a time.
We're reintroduced to Jabba's palace three separate times, and nothing really is added in each sequence. The movie could have started with Luke going in and had lost nothing.
and the Ewoks is not nitpicking, they're a HUGE part of the movie. They spend at least 15-20 minutes just dicking around in their treehouse
>>63897370
I don't know, dude. ROTJ does have its downsides.
Honestly, I think the "Luke and Leia are siblings" thing feels forced, the Ewoks should have been Wookiees like originally planned, and while the Jabba thing was necessary, it felt awkward and out of place with the rest of the plot. Like the tail-end of the previous movie that should have been there, but didn't quite have time.
Still, Luke's final confrontation was out-fucking-standing.
The hack frauds hate ROTJ enough that they say TFA is much better.
>>63898974
>give some valid reasons for why ROTJ was shit
>some kid on tv gets booty blasted
what a surprise. my opinion isn't going to kill you, mate.
besides, no one denies the absolute importance of some of the events in ROTJ
>>63898652
anyone
>>63897601
This is the jist of how its working
Old fags and gen-x love the originals, so do millinials whos parents nostalgia was so strong that it wore off in them.
People who are 18-30 are more likely to like the prequels because they actually grew up during their release and their parents didn't pressure them into liking the OT.
>>63899077
>so do millinials whos parents nostalgia was so strong that it wore off in them.
>People who are 18-30 are more likely to like the prequels
You've contradicted yourself. Millenials are 18-30.
>>63897244
son why are those 3 moves even on your list.
Disney just need to man the fuck up and say "yeah eps 1 2 and 3 are now part of legends" and they did a damn good job of not even alluding to a reference to any of those garbage fucking movies in this film made out of references.
Well done Disney Jews you have my alliance.
>>63898925
>We're reintroduced to Jabba's palace three separate times, and nothing really is added in each sequence.
Who cares? You're the ONLY person I've ever seen complain about it.
And the Ewoks? Get over it! How many pointless characters were in TFA just to sell action figures and toys and you bitch about the Ewoks of all people?
>>63899041
ROTJ is not nearly as good as the previous two, but it is still better than TFA. Even when TFA wins on small things, ROTJ still takes the cake and you're still a faggot that only hates ROTJ because hipsters always have to go farther back to find something to hate.
>>63898403
episode 7 shill pls go
>>63897034
Imo Jedi is the best, and I'm still trying to debate whether 7 Is better than ALL the prequels
No. I think Return of the Jedi is the second best Star Wars movie, and I hated The Force Awakens.
I know you're trying to say that plebs like both movies, but I fail to see the connection. The people I've met/heard from so far that liked TFA either really aren't Star Wars fans at all and they just liked it because it was an entertaining movie, or they are diehard Star Wars fans who would have talked themselves into anything as long as it was nothing like the prequels at all.
>>63899191
those are some hot opinions
>>63897350
the power gap between TPM and AoTC should be bigger rest is objectivley right
>>63899182
>actually defending the Ewoks
there is NOTHING in TFA even remotely comparable to the ewoks. There are a couple wacky alien characters but they're just side characters in the bar or on Jakku. The Ewoks are a major part of the movie and make the Empire look like a fucking joke
>>63897034
Old dude here. Saw ROTJ, first run, was disappointed in Vader, Ewoks Leia and Luke and Vader family connection. Didn't like Abram's nuTrek. I guess I can live without TFA then.
>>63899181
They mentioned clonetroopers
>>63899302
>muh ewoks
This meme needs to end
>>63899242
Where the fuck do you think you are? Is this your favorite almanac discussion forum?
>>63899176
Generations are fickle. The generation that was born in the late 80s and early 90s could be considered Millenial but their experience growing up and culture is very different than the generation who was born in the middle late 90s and early 2000s. I grew up on an N64 and I remember 9/11, I never had a smartphone until I was in high school, and I went through college during the recession. Those born even 3 or 4 years after me will have had an incredibly different experience.
>>63897034
what if I only liked the first half of ROTJ
>>63899181
Episode 3 was good. Seeing how the republic and the Jedi fell was interesting and the lightsaber duels were mostly good.
>>63897244
>ROTJ
>Better than Empire
Hahaha no
Why is AOTC the worst prequel?
>>63899710
I know I know, but RotJ is my personal favorite even if ESB is generally considered the "best" of the OT.
TFA is Literally Reddit: The Episode.
>>63899821
Because it's fucking boring and wastes Christopher Lee.
>>63899821
Because it was when the prequels went full CGI (even some of the battle droids were animatronic in Phantom, not a lot, but a few), with green screen in every fucking scene and no more sets. It's also entirely carried by the worst love story ever written in the history of film
>>63898403
THIS. Objectively and undeniably true. I'm glad at least some one in here has good sense.
>>63899821
the love scenes.
awful writing. awful acting. awful visuals. awful plot.
the only thing good about them was the across the stars soundtrack.
>>63897210
bullshit, the first one (EpIV) had fun and "relaxed" scenes too, and this one was designed to parallel it
expect VIII to pile on the dark stuff
>>63899381
This.
Was this the only prequel reference? I didn't catch any others.
>>63897034
That's not how proof works.
>>63900404
No, you don't get what I mean when I use those words. Episode 4 was fun, but it wasn't "loose" like Jedi, as in, afraid to not be perfect and just have fun and roll with it.
Episode 4 was fun, but it was structured and made with the goal of being perfect.
>>63900706
as, in not afraid to not be perfect*
The emperor throne room scenes alone make up for anything bad in ROTJ.
ROTJ is my favorite star wars film even If I can recognize that it's the weakest of the trilogy.
V>IV>=VII>VI>III>I>II
The tatooine part of ROTJ is my favorite part of the entire series, I don't get why people dislike the movie. Ewoks aren't even that bad.
>>63897530
This.
>>63897601
Fucking idiot.
>>63897034
RoTJ (speeder bike chase and Boba, that was child defining to me)> ESB (at-at and Boba)>RotS(Obi wan vs. Anakin), TFA=ANH in almost every aspect>AotC (jango and clones)>PM(I still loved Darth maul but that's it
>>63897034
I pretty much hate ROTJ but loved TFA
IV>V>VII>III>VI>>I>II
>>63897034
For me ROTJ was weakest of the OT but that doesnt mean its weak. I liked it more than TFA. TFA is neo starwars for the new batch of kids being pumped out.
>>63901121
do you think it is bad there is this new generation of kids who like star wars now, there has been a pretty big age gap between TFA and RotS
>>63897034
>Prove me wrong.
You just made that up in an autistic stupor.
>>63901121
>For me ROTJ was weak
>but that doesnt mean its weak
If you EVER rank TFA above ANH, you are blatantly showing how much of a pleb you are.
TFA is like ANH but with blatant pacing issues, a lack of tension, a mary sue lead, and an actually unoriginal plot.
>>63898157
Nothing about any scene stands out.
People outright said Han's death was the most blatantly predictable plot twist in cinematic history.
>>63899496
>grew up on an N64
>never had a smartphone until I was in high school
So you grew up on a console ten years after it came out?
>>63897185
RIGHT THERE WITH YOU (oops caps lock)
>>63898778
Same here, I like this ranking
>>63897350
Eh, while I agree that TFA is better than the prequels (though comes nowhere close to living upto the OT), I can see the argument for someone liking Sith equally or more.
At least both of the leads, along with the antagonist in Sith are all likeable. Anakin is really only an annoying brat in I and II
>>63897034
She was such a cutie poop.
Don't do drugs kids.
>>63899821
It's soooo boring. Kamino and Geonosis almost redeem it, but the love scenes and writing kill it again.
>>63897244
This nigga fucking gets it.
ROTJ is the best, followed by Empire, then TFA and then ANH.
>>63901723
It's not drugs, the vast majority of women just age like milk.
ROTJ > ESB > TPM > TFA > ANH > ROTS > AOTC
>>63901792
that's a weird way to count to 6,5,3,4,7,2,1,
>>63901792
>Return better than New Hope
Max, I agree with you that Rey is a Mary Sue, but cmon man.
>>63901829
refer to
>>63901483
>>63898283
>hating on Hoth
This is the most wrong thing I've ever heard.
>>63901792
Goddamit max is brilliant
His counting's a little off though. It goes:
4,5,7,3,6,1,2
>>63901918
>>63901792
No, you guys don't know how to count.
It goes 4567312
>>63901951
Lol no, none of you do.
It's: 5, 4, 7, 6, 3, 1, 2
>>63901792
More like 6, 5, 7, 1, 4, 3, 2.
>>63898403
I'm with this guy.
>>63898939
ROTJ is my absolute favorite because of the confrontation. Everything else is a sideshow, including the other movies, and luke losing his shit with the amazing soundtrack in the background sticks with me more than anything else.
>>63902028
refer to
>>63901483
>>63901792
fuck it fuck 7
6,5,4,3,2,1,7
>>63897034
>Has the same haircut in TFA
>Han comments on her new hair
well, rotj is my favorite. tfa is above the prequels for me, but still not in the same tier as the OT.
ep ii is the worst though. i and iii are not bad.
Can we add in Tartakovsky Clone Wars? Those were some of the best written and directed Star Wars material.
CW=Empire>Jedi= ANH>ROTS>TFA>AotC=TPM
>>63902044
>stop not having the same opinion as meeeee!!!!!!!
>>63902130
5>4>6>3>1>7>2
2 was complete shit and im not giving a reboot of ANH a grade higher than a legitimately honest work that struggled with fans. TFA is pandering: the film
>>63902552
>facts are now opinions.
Okay nigger. What makes TFA better. Note: special effects is not an argument, since these ALWAYS improve over time.
>>63902586
How the fuck is it a fact that one movie can be better than another?
That's all fucking opinion.
>>63902586
Genuinely interesting characters you can root for, not boring, creepy, unsympathetic, assholes like the prequels.
>>63902683
>unsympathetic assholes
>Luke, Han, Leia, Obi Wan
Are you fucking kidding me? Is this bait?
>>63902506
Not-Tark Anakin was objectively superior in demeanor and arc than what we got in the movies
>>63902592
It is true, they both suck cock.
>>63898283
fucking this times 10000000
>>63897034
Why would people that like ROTJ like a movie thats supposed to be a sequel to it but instead shits all over its ending and characters?
>>63904662
>shits all over its ending and characters?
Just like Jedi.
Aside from Luke and Vader, every character returning from the last two movies is lamer than before. And Lando, I wanna add Lando in there too.
>obi-wan is tired and sits on a log
>yoda dies
>leia is sexy and kills a slug then does nothing for the other hour and 40 minutes
>han solo does jack shit and stands in front of a door for the last 30 minutes
>r2 gets shot
>c-3p0 is there or something
>>63897034
ROTJ is my all time favorite Star Wars
TFA is my all time least favorite Star Wars
>>63897244
This desu. But maybe with a bigger gap between 1 and 2 because there was nothing fun about episode II.
>>63900448
>The word "Sith" was never mentioned in the original trilogy. Was in TFA
>a character quoted APM but I can't remember what it was. Sometime during the 1st quarter of the film
>the fat barter creature, the hentai meatball monsters, stoke and maz were all crummy cg characters, may as well be referencing the shitty cg in the prequels.
>i heard some similar or same sound effects from the original prequel in TFA but I can't remember exactly which parts.
>>63897350
Completely agree. RotJ would have been way better if Lucas would have stuck with the origanal story wi the wookies instead of ewoks. People complain about Mary sue rey, but the teddy bear Muppets defeating the empire with sticks and stones who use waaay ducking advanced technology compared to them. There's a reason RotJ is viewed so much lower than the others in the OT
