FINALLY.
A STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER I CAN BE PROUD OF .
SHE IS INDEPENDANT YET LOVING.
ATTRACTIVE YET NOT SEXUALIZED.
SHE DOESN"T FEEL THE NEED TO FALL IN THE ARMS OF THE STRONGEST RICHEST OR MOST ATTRACTIVE MAN IN THE GALAXY ,NOR IS SHE FORCED IN SOME CHEESY LESBIAN RELATIONSHIP, SHE IS STILL CAPABLE OF DEEP LOVE WITH A MAN.
11/10 GOD TEIR
tiny calves. wouldn't bang.
>>63852988
Literally Mary Sue, the character.
>>63853093
bullshit. she's a strong independant orphan, who has had 2 look after herself all her life. ur mad cuz she isn't a little bitch and yet she still craves bbc and rejects lwc nothing more.
>>63852988
>didn't mention the black male at all
WHAT
A
BLOODY
RACIST
>le strong female characters meme
Fuck the SJWs, right?
>>63852988
The lesbian relationship in episode 8 has already pretty much been confirmed
>>63853093
oh no, a wish fulfillment character in star wars!?
Strong female characters are the WORST. THE WORST.
>>63853311
>pic related in ep 8
I AM O.K. WITH THIS
> tldr paid schilling
>>63853202
this
she should win an oscar for playing the most progressive female character ever
shitlords can go and stay in their basements star wars is ours now!
>>63852988
>NOR IS SHE FORCE--
Lies! She's force sensitive.
>>63852988
SHE IS A STRONK WOMAN
That scene when the x-wings pilots talk when they're flying on the starkiller planet
>first shot: the hispanic
>second shot: the woman
>third shot: the fat white guy
>fourth shot: the asian guy back in their headquarters
>fifth shot: the black guy
She was the worst part of the movie, hands-down. It was hard to stomach how forced she was being pushed down our throats.
The whole thing is filled with propaganda.
e.g. there was the scene where Rey and Finn both sneak off somewhere in the Millennium Falcon. While they are both panting heavily, the Rey says, "I can't believe we're doing this." This is subtle shit, and if you're not looking for it you will miss it, due to the fact that this is not presented in a overtly sexual way.
More obvious shit like
1) Finn incessantly grabs Reys hand every time they have to run away to the point she complains about it
2) Rey then OH SO CONVENIENTLY grabs Finn's hand to help him up the next time they have to run
3) The part where Finn MUST save Rey at all costs even if it means death... he gives no fuck for the resistances plan
4) After they are reunited they hug for such a long time, in the most awkward moment, then Han Solo has to break them up to say they better get the fuck out of there
The above doesn't include the long pauses, the staring and the innuendo between the two right the way through.
More obvious stuff like the Nazi caricature villains (including one who fights the black guy with a burning cross lightsaber, and they even throw in a nazi rally for good measure), the only semi-major white male characters in the film are two old men that they probably felt they needed to include out of marketing obligations: Han Solo who gets killed off and Luke Skywalker who shows up for 5 seconds at the end and literally went into hiding out of jedi guilt due to his failure in training the villain, which led to the deaths of his students. Why is anyone on /tv/ defending this SJW propaganda shit?
>>63853559
Why do you think that is? (female and black leads being pushed so hard in a bastion of white nerdiness?)
>>63853093
but finn rescued her on the star killer.
>>63853286
the problem isn't there being strong female characters, even most hopeless /pol/tards cant really argue against that. the problem is it being done in a super patronizing and in your face way that ends up being obnoxious/demeaning. Which is what happened with rey a few times.
>tfw unironically a feminist and it made me really happy when Rey ignited the light saber
finally there's a chosen one character for little girls to look up to
anyone calling her a mary sue is a shitlord if they dont also talk shit about neo/harry potter/luke/ect
>>63853567
No, you're just autistic.
>>63853993
Harry Potter and Luke were both incredibly incompetent and relied on others to save them over and over again. With Harry, it's fine because he's a child, but Luke just kind of sucks. The only thing either of them are really good at is flying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs
>>63854057
Luke, Harry and Rey are all self insert wish fulfillment characters. Luke is the original Mary Sue in modern cinema.
>>63854149
Mary Sues are liked by everyone and don't fail at things, so how is Luke a Mary Sue?
>>63854149
actually Luke is the damsel in distress, he constantly had to be saved by someone else.
>>63853202
She is good at absolutely everything, beats a Sith without having trained for even one minute, everyone likes her...there's no denying it. This is one instance where "Mary Sue" is literally accurate.
>>63854149
And that's not a bad thing.
>>63854149
The entirety of ESB is The Dark Side taking a steaming dump on Luke.
>>63854248
In ANH Luke is good at absolutely everything, beats a Death Star without having trained for even one minute, everyone likes him...there's no denying it. This is another instance where "Mary Sue" is literally accurate.
>>63853993
>Neo
>Mary Sue
Lmao
>>63853821
>the problem is it being done in a super patronizing and in your face way that ends up being obnoxious/demeaning.
How?
>>63854340
so you're saying better wait for episode 8 before judging Rey?
>>63854189
Luke and Harry are liked by everyone and don't fail at things, so how aren't they a Mary Sue?
>>63854248
That "sith" was a total bitch.
and its arguable that he let her beat him, to try 2 seduce her 2 the dork side.
>>63854424
Literally everything you just posted is factually incorrect. Are you posting from the Berenstein universe?
>>63854248
FN 1138 put up a decent fight and clipped him, despite being a janitor-tier storm trooper and only being in one battle.
>inb4 but chewie shot him
>>63854447
I'm saying the entirety of ESB was The Dark Side taking a steaming dump on Luke. Fuck Rey.
>>63854453
>Luke and Harry are liked by everyone and don't fail at things
>>63853821
Sarah agrees with this.
>>63853993
all those other characters are shit too though. even if not all of them are mary sues
>>63854472
Name a single non-villain that doesn't like Luke. Name a single thing in ANH that Luke doesn't do perfectly after getting rescued by a space wizard from his shitty life/boring aunt/uncle.
>>63854517
Liked/worshipped by literally every non-villain, get rescued from their boring life with aunt and uncle by a wizard, are the chosen one and talented at every single thing they do.
How are they not the same wish fulfillment character?
>>63854442
Name a flaw Rey has.
Rey is a strong independent woman who don't need no man desu
>>63854702
she has tiny tits
>>63853993
You realize that making Mary Sue #3001 is automatically worse than Mary Sues #1-3000, right?
>>63854598
>>63854598
>Name a single non-villain that doesn't like Luke.
that guy in the cantina. Luke had that punchable face and the pig man called him out on it.
>>63854691
Luke gets fucked up multiple times and Harry is almost always at some point hated by every person in the school outside his close circle, and at times even in there too.
>>63854761
She could still lay you the fuck down, you sexist shitlord
>>63854825
I'm sure "1/4 portion" has super strong feelings about Rey too.
Come up with another.
>>63854691
Harry explicitly is not talented at everything he does, particularly compared to Hermione.
>>63854702
>lonely
>traumatized by being abandoned on a planet for most of her life
>scared of accepting her destiny and runs from it at first
>hasnt taken Finn's BBC, racist bitch
>>63854702
>>63854761
>>63854880
>implying that's a flaw
>>63854513
If Rey was in ESB the following would have happened:
>She would have taken out all the AT-AT's herself and gotten the rebels off of Hoth while completely dismantling the Empire fleet surrounding the planet.
>She would have gone to Degobah and immediately reognized Yoda and then proceed to to teach him a few things about the Force that he did not know.
>She would have gone to Bespin where she would save Han and thaw him out of the carbonite by rubbing her hands on it real fast.
>she would confront Darth Vader, chop off his hand and tell him to tell the Emperor she is coming for him next.
>She then calls the Millenium Falcon telepathically using the force and by adding a piece of equipment she pesonally designed to fly the ship without her even touching it. She picks Han, Leia, Chewbacca, and Lando, who are all hanging out at the Bespin Starbucks bored.
>>63854895
the pig mans friend didn't like him either :^)
>>63854761
>He is a tits guy
I grew up admiring guys like this.
I believed that if a man had:
>Strength
>Courage
>Morals
>Machine gun
he was set for life.
Haven't seen many movies in the last 10 years, what are the characteristics of the male hero of the 21st /tv/?
>>63854960
If it were directed by Rian Johnson, I'd watch that.
>>63854900
And yet in the books harry is usually right about everything while in the films they give the credit to Hermione
>>63854702
Oh, okay. I see that you're just memeing.
>>63854989
Niether did the midget trying to steal BB8.
Next.
>>63853993
So you can only relate to people of your own gender? How small-minded.
Calling it now: She is luke's daughter. Setting this shit up for the next movie.
She is the ultimate Mary Sue.
>>63854825
>>63854895
>>63854989
>>63855063
These aren't villains?
>>63855063
Uncle Owen
>>63855127
That's fucked up man. But probably true.
>>63853567
Don't forget the token Aryan Admiral.
>>63855127
Just because he valued his own personal gain over Luke's happiness doesn't mean he didn't like him, just that he was a shitty parent. At the very least he wanted to make it up to him.
Try again please.
>>63855076
>Calling it now
Everyone has called that ever since the characters were announced, faggot.
>>63855240
Except the movie has given it credence. Hell, I thought Rey was the daughter of Han and Leia before the movie was announced.
>>63854598
I got the feeling han didn't like him much at first, but grew to like him over the course of the movie.
>>63853567
Im not going to argue that it's not Sjw Wars but clearly the female and male lead actors are going to have romantic tension.
Back to >>>/pol/ with you
>>63855039
Harry spends a third of the first book and a quarter of the fourth book hated by everyone in the school. Even in the fifth one people kind of think he's a lying fraud for the majority of the story.
>>63855365
Same could be said for Rey DESU.
But Han obviously learned his lesson the first time, and realized who she was after she mentioned Jakku/she was waiting for her senpai/her name was Rey.
>>63855406
>>>/leftypol/
>>63855023
shallow cookie cutter idealizations?
>>63855039
>>63855599
Also, I forget, the second book. pretty much everyone avoids him like the plague. I don't know much about the films even though we're on /tv/. I watched them once and hated them but I think it's fair to say harry is not a Mary Sue.
>>63855023
no wonder your love life is so fucked up ;)
>>63854547
Argh, no! Why did you just remind me of that part in Terminator 2, the part where Sarah gives that bitchy, crazy feminazi rant to Miles Dyson? You know, the one that you can literally tell she is just being a mouthpiece for SJW extraordinaire, Cameron?
>>63855023
That's because ironic douchebags and betas are now making most of our movies. We can't have decent action movies anymore, due to all of that self-referencing and winks. Fuck that bullshit.
>>63854702
She's too perfect
>tfw unironically enjoyed Rey's character as a strong woman character because i'm not a bitter and jaded autistic manchild who actively seeks out things to complain about
>>63853334
>holding a gun
Yep she sure is strong :^)
>gets knocked out in the same scene and is a damsel the rest of the movie.
The climax of the movie should have been Rey discovering her force sensitivity for the first time and using it in some minor way to delay Kylo pushing Finns shit.
>>63855754
If anyone is a Mary Sue in the book its Hermione.
>>63852988
>movie for boys or for everyone
WHERE ARE THE STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMYN?
THAT ONE IS SEXUALIZED! THAT ONE IS WEAK! THAT ONE FELL INTO THE ARMS OF AN ALPHA!
SEXCISM! RAPE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
>movie for girls, i.e. Twilight or 50 Shades
Oh my, look at that strong, handsome man!
He's chasing the girl who is nothing but thin and pretty!
She's so special!
OMG SHE'S SUBMITTING TO HIM!
OH I'M SO WET!
>woman logic
>>63852988
She has thick ankles.
>>63854598
>Name a single non-villain that doesn't like Luke.
At the beginning Han didn't really like Luke or Obiwan, did you even watch the film?
>>63852988
you fucking racist! you didnt admit the only reason she got the role was due to being white
>>63853993
>anyone calling her a mary sue is a shitlord if they dont also talk shit about neo
Was literally helpless in the beginning, had to be rescued from the Matrix, lacked the skill/confidence to be the one, stepped up when his friend was in danger but then got his ass kicked, was saved by a kiss from a woman.
/harry potter
Did Harry Potter have all his powers and defeat the bad guy in movie #1?
/luke
Had to be trained, left early because of his own weakness, lost his hand to Vader, had to be rescued by Vader in the end, and now we learn that he lost his Jedi Academy.
What now feminist?
>>63857507
>is a princess but is still personally fighting the rebellion
>doesnt give up the rebel base even under torture or threat of having her home planet blown up
>not scared and talks shit to Vader and Tarkin
>immediately takes control of the rescue mission
>comes up with the idea to escape through the garbage vent
>starts operating with the blaster when trapped on the bridge with Luke
>goes on dangerous missions for the rest of the war and even kills the most powerful gangster in the galaxy
get fucked pissbaby
>>63859839
Harry defeated Voldemort when he was a fucking baby
>>63852988
The thing about Rey was that, yeah, she kind of was a Mary sue, but because of how her character building was treated early on, it felt nice.
She literally was at the fucking bottom in the universe, climbing out of old ships where a fall could be seemingly deadly to scavenge loose parts. And then when she has some scumfuck boss who literally hits her if she stops working, and some fuckbag merchant who swindles that shit from her.
So when she wrecked that beta cuck Kylo ren's shit.... felt good man.
Plus the few instances of good cinematography in the film were around her character.
the advent of the Internet allowed the term "Mary Sue" to migrate out of the Star Trek community to most fandoms, losing pretty much any real meaning in the process. There are dozens upon dozens of essays that offer interpretations of what the term means, generally basing it off of some usages of it, but none of them are truly comprehensive or accepted. Using the term in most contexts isn't too far off from Flame Bait, generally provoking the defendant into rants. Much Internet Backdraft has resulted, especially if the term is applied to a canon character on a popular show.
>>63854598
>Name a single non-villain that doesn't like Luke
Lumpy
>>63852988
btw how is Poe not a gary stu when he shoots down 7 tie fighters in like 10 seconds?
