hello contrarians
there is literally nothing wrong with being contrarians
>tfw paid reviews
>>63830310
hello paid shill and/or sheeple
95% doesn't mean 9.5/10 It means 95% of people gave it good reviews
Good reviews
Not great reviews
Because It's good
Not great
Kids don't remember, but at the time Phantom Menace wasn't shat on by everybody at all.
>>63830310
Give it some time, shlomo, you'll see.
>Boo hoo not everyone agrees about a shitty flick I irrationally love
>I better post this graph from a source that agrees with me
>Boo hoo
>>63830310
>tfw It goes downhill from here
If you use the word "contrarian," you're literally an idiot. It's an invented concept by idiots with reddit sensibilities who are too fragile to deal with criticism of mediocre media that has widespread appeal.
It's a troubling manifestation of millennials' mental weakness. Seriously, the only people who would even entertain any "argument" involving the concept of being "contrarian" are weak, lazy idiots who can't deal with criticism substantively.
If it bothers you that much that people criticize mediocre mass-marketed work designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, like Star Wars, Breaking Bad, pop music, etc., you should find a safe bubble and stay there. Or kill yourself.
But then again I agree with them that Boyhood is the greatest film of all time :^)
>>63830376
Revisionist History 101: If you say it enough people will believe it
WHY, HELLO OP!
HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?
(SMILES BRIGHTLY)
>>63830364
so you can say that about any movie with a high rt score
fuck off
>>63830310
if you are contraian, your opinions are wrong
>>63830445
Yea, you can
RT as a system gives good movies great results, average movies good results and below average movies awful results.
>>63830310
DELETE THIS
WE HATE IT
>>63830414
>Mentioned Reddit
Opinion discarded.
>>63830484
I enjoyed it :3
>>63830493
I wouldn't expect anything more from someone that only likes these movies for the sake of "nerd" acceptance on Facebook.
>>63830479
see >>63830448
is it an average movie?
>>63830512
>:3
>>63830545
Being this mad :^)
>>63830414
this post reeks of some faggot millenial redditor trying to fit in
>>63830536
Yea as far as movies go It is pretty average AoTC is awful compared to the Original Trilogy is literally rapes the memory of them but as far as movies in general go there are a fuckton worse than AoTC
It's possible to bring up a plethora of valid points for why AoTC is bad and you could talk about it for hours but the fact of the matter is you could do that for a lot of averages movies; people are just hypercritical of the prequel trilogy.
>>63830427
But its actually true you mong. There's a fucking ZERO score review from 2012.
The film.com reviews aren't from 1999 either. You can check the Wayback Machine, which has a May 1999 snapshot of the site. They didn't review it until 2001, then again in 2012.
>>63830512
More or less entire world, including both /pol/ and /tv/ enjoyed it. But, sometimes, people just have to be haters.
>>63830672
How ironic, 2014 psoter
Fuck you I liked it.
>tfw this scene and became clear Kasdan has done nothing but binge watch shounen anime for decades
It had more hammy turnaround moments than Kill la Kill. Favorite B-movie by far.
>>63830310
>implying you should take rating sites seriously
>>63830445
>Avg Rating: 8.3
>>63830310
>Rotten Tomatoes
Daily reminder that this website gave the GoT episode where Sansa gets raped a 6/10 while every other episode got a 9-10/10
The site is run by SJW's who probably only rated it so high because of muh progrzzsivv and had nothing to do with the story
>>63830448
Meant for
>>63830364
>>63831024
Ah god damn I'm a fucking tetard
>>63830988
You should, but not if its for products of committee film-making like that movie and the OP
>>63830376
>tfw I was 8 when it came out.
I remember my my parents hating it. And my parents love Star Wars.
>>63830988
>>63830310
Both not as good as Supergirl
Marvel/Disney BTFO
>surely the greatest corporation in the planet couldn't afford a handful od media critics and journalists
>>63830310
>didn't enjoy thing
>you are purposely being negative to spite reviewers
>>63831053
You shouldn't really, rating sites are just a hint of what a movie will be like, not exact quality. Also dont forget that a lot of people that rate in this sites aren't objective due to political, cultural or w/e reasons. Most importantly rating sites dont give your argument any strength, if you want to convince me that star wars is good, give me facts, not subjective normie-infested rating sites.
>>63831136
How can you dislike something that everyone else loves?
Ratings for Indiana Jones IV were high when it showed up.
>>63831301
used the word "normie"
Opinion discarded.
>>63831379
The same you pretend the transformers movies are bad
I seriously do not get why films like this get such overwhelmingly positive reception. It was pretty good, but christ, 9/10 are you fucking kidding me? I have heard fuck loads of people say it's the best film they've ever seen, people in the theatre cheered when it finished, people were crying outside afterward, a guy at my work has seen it three times in the cinema, and plans to go again. What the fuck is going on? Are there honestly this many braindead nostalgia faggots who buy into blatant consumerist cash-grabs so profoundly? It's pathetic, and this is coming from someone who quite enjoyed the film on a basic level.
>>63832637
I try not to think about it too much because I just end up depressed
3 times? Seriously?
>>63832705
Yeah, he is also at least 35, and wore a jedi robe to our Christmas party.
>>63832804
I own a Jedi robe, a replica lightsaber, more books than I'd care to admit, and I have no plans to see it even once.
I think I've just lost interest in the franchise
>>63832637
It's called hype.
>people were crying outside afterward
And that's just pathetic. Sure, the last scene was admittedly quite moving and powerful, because it sums up what Lucas intended for a 7/8/9 very well and hits the point home, but at most I was choked up over the journey the series had gone through. No actual genuine empathy for the plot or characters.
>>63830988
GotG was a fun movie though
>>63830376
I remember my father crushed with dissapointment I was 13 at the time
GLIB
>>63830310
rotten tomato is a fucking joke
movie was forgettable, how can people love it?
>>63832637
It's hype and dopamine.
I thought it was good, but not fuckin amazing.
Power levels were way too fucking inconsistent, and it was basically the same frame as A New Hope. I like Rey but they turned up the Mary Sue on her way too high. She should need another full movie before being this adept in Force shit.
Snoke was interesting. Heard he might be Plagueis, that would be cool. Laughed when he facepalmed at the end when telling that guy to haul ass and bring Kylo with him to finish his training.
>>63832921
what's the best book? Tempted to listen to the Revan audio book.
>>63833345
"I, Jedi" is my favorite single book and it's a nice cliffnotes of Jedi Academy
X-Wing is my favorite in terms of series
I never really read much Old Republic stuff, I always liked following Luke around so you'd think VII would be right up my alley but eh. More interested in Rogue One but we all know that will be horrific.
>>63833269
All of the movies in that image are indeed shit
>>63833269
Why is RotS there? That's a perfect score for it
>>63833688
what are good Sith-heavy ones, or are you just not into them?
>>63833807
>Revenge of the Sith
>80%
nah. Maybe 70%, if that. Dialogue and direction was shit.
IMDB
>Ratings: 8.9/10 from 111,386 users Metascore: 81/100
reminder: there are only 3 films with a 9.0 or higher on imdb
>>63833811
Old Republic stuff would be better for Sith and I don't really know those, sorry. Fate of the Jedi is sith heavy but for someone new to the EU it'd be a tough read, lot of references to all the shit that's happened since RotJ so you'd be a little lost.
Plus Disney nuked the EU right after it so the loose ends are never getting tied up. Was really looking forward to seeing Jaina's future, instead I get shit based on Rebels.
>>63830310
Contrarians are disgusting. Good that they got BTFO again.
>>63830376
>but at the time Phantom Menace wasn't shat on by everybody at all.
That's not true
>>63833990
New movies always have an inflated rating, expect it drop to low 8 or high 7.
>>63833269
Reviewers today are a bunch of fanboy manchild plebs who grew up watching Spielberg. That's why you see shit like this.
>>63833811
Start with the Darth Bane Trilogy. Then move up the timeline till you get to Plagueis.
There are some books that cover the sith in the times of the old republic, but I never really cared for that period.
>>63830359
>implying disney would pay every single critic on rotten tomatoes
>>63834386
spoken like a true contrarian
1. V
2. IV
>POWER GAP
3. VI
>POWER GAP
4. III
5. VII
>POWER GAP
6. I
7. II
>>63834509
?
I'm simply stating a true factual fact that is true, my allegiance is of no importance.
>>63830310
Hello, reddit :^)
>>63830436
Whatttttttttttttttt
Man did this movie suck! It wasn't as bad as the prequels, but they completely missed the point! It's a glib fascimile or something. This is one of those common instances where it's only the negative reviews that you should read, because only 5% of the reviewers are brave enough to give it a bad review. Lucas' biggest mistake was selling Star Wars to Disney instead of Fox, where the franchise began.You should definitely watch Alvin and the Chipmunks: Road Chip by 20th Century Fox instead.
>>63831072
>97%
What is this fucking madness? Is everyone retarded now? What the shit?
>>63836129
Any critic knows if they rate it badly they will be lauded as sexist and closed-minded. Same if you have the nerve to criticise Rey, or claim that Jessica Jones isn't the best Marvel TV show ever made. Criticising a show about female power is a one way ticket to blacklist street, and critics just don't have the balls they used to.
>>63830310
hello there
>>63834567
I'd put Empire at the top, but overall that's a good list, 7 is on par with 3. Good, not great.
>>63836977
Empire is on the top. But yeah, it's a great list.
>>63836129
It's a show about a strong female character, you're not allowed to dislike it otherwise you're misogynist
People who say any of the prequels are better than TFA are reddit contrarian cuckolds.
At worst it's on par with RotJ. At WORST.
>>63830414
>prequels are hated by /tv/ for years
>normies suddenly start to hate prequels
>/tv/ begins to like prequels
>/tv/ now defends prequels
It's just like how 4chan used to be predominantly atheist. Then atheism started getting popular, then 4chan started acting Christian and adopted the fedora meme.
4chan is absolutely fucking contrarian in nature. Don't try to tell me otherwise shitlord.
>>63830414
Hello, reddit.
>>63837098
>4chan used to be predominantly atheist
Just because you claim something doesn't make it true you fucking heathen
>>63837098
Everyone on /b/ liked revenge in 2005 :^)
>>63837170
It's not my fault you're to new to remember
>>63830445
Yes that's literally the point you fucking retard.
>>63837205
I've been since 2007 and it's always been making fun of fedora tipping and promotion of family values.
9/10
it was okay
>>63830376
I'm pretty sure I was 12 at the time. I loved it and didn't know people hated it until I was in my mid-20's years later with exposure to cynical neckbeards.
Hating on TFA is my way of getting back at these man-children who hated 'my' childhood and now are cumming their pants for a reboot of their "untouchable" original trilogy.
>>63837164
>maybe if i call the actual /tv/ posters reddit i can change board culture
nope
episode 7 was shit, fuck off conformist and go back to /r/movies
>>63830414
Is this board just shit at recognizing pasta or is that part of the "board culture"?
>>63837442
Why is it wrong?
>>63830376
This is true. I remember people kept pulling the "but the OT had these problems too" card once TPM came out to rationalize their feelings. Yet, pre-1999, if you said the OT was anything other than perfect and untouchable you were lynched.
>>63833913
It has a 7.2 average score you raging idiot, why are you idiots looking at the tomato meter and not the actual score?
>>63837567
>used to be
>>63830411
It wont, it played it safe with the first part but it created an excellent base to build upon and I'm fully confident they will be more daring nad original with the next two parts.
>>63837325
>I was 12 at the time
Then you're older than most of the people on this site. And old enough that you should have realized it was shit by the second prequel.
>>63830526
I don't even have a Facebook, I just enjoy fun movies.
>>63837819
I was old enough at the time when I wanted SW to expand on what already was. I embraced the idea of a blockage, taxation, monarchy, the classical antiquity of the galaxy. I was old enough to understand it, but young enough to accept it and enjoy it.
At age 7 and 8, watching the original trilogy on VHS, I was happy that Lucas added the new CGI to the Special Editions for something that was already so campy and cheesey as the time.
My only gripe of the prequels was the overuse of CGI. That's pretty much it.
star wars VII can not be entirely judged until the trilogy is comlpete, the only thing right now it has done "wrong" is being coward but it still established the new characters very well. if the next 2 keep copy pasting the OT its a sad reboot trilogy. if not it can be a very solid extremely well executed beiginning of an original sequel trilogy
FRIENDLY REMINDER to downvote the movie into oblivion on all major review sites. spread this!
>still talking about this kids movie
It's old news.
>>63833269
Only God Forgives was shit
Deserves way lower
>>63830988
GotG was much better than TFA though
>>63838193
Better than TFA by default as it's an actual movie.
>>63830376
This.
>>63830310
/tv/ is one of the worst boards, if not THE worst board on 4chan. It's filled with Redditors who try to act as edgy as possible in order to "fit in". It seems almost like a parody of 4chan. 4chan has always had the tendency of shitting on everything that is popular, but /tv/ drives it to a new level. I guess that is what happens when a board is overrun with fucking Redditors who think they know shit about 4chan culture.
>>63830988
>>63830414
>>63830310
These ratings are shopped right? I mean we all agree that all these flicks are mediocre at their very best
>>63831068
Did you parents like this one?
>>63838486
Why don't you go check it yourself, you lazy fuck?
>>63838486
how about you google it and check it instead of asking dumb ass questions. takes 5 seconds
Deal with it faggots
>>63830310
>not liking something makes me a contrarian
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE NOT TO LIKE THE NEW STAR WARS, RIGHT GUYS? JUST LIKE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO LIKE THE NEW CAPESHIT, OR NOT TO LIKE AVATAR, ETC, ETC, ETC. I LOVE BEING PART OF THE HERD!
>>63838561
Calling it unwatchable shit makes you a contrarian.
>>63838561
You're just being part of the 4chan herd instead of the normalfag herd. You're parroting what others are saying, either way.
>>63838561
You need to realize that most people on this sub don't know jack shit about movies and only care about the most surface level big budget wide release bullshit. Look how many people are saying "what is a Mary Sue???". These fuckers are literally plebs.
>>63838480
Don't say that too loud.
>>63831072
RT has always been shit for TV series scores, They're all way higher than they should be.
>>63838561
Fellow non-conformists unite!!!
They'll never understand our patrician taste, it's everyone else that's wrong!!!
Stay strong brother *tips fedora*
The movie literally just came out. Of course hype is going to affect things. A lot of movies have absurdly high ratings at first. When the hype dies down, the reviews will get more realistic. You can't compare early first day reviews to reviews of movies that have been out for decades.
>>63838608
Firstly, it does not make me a "contrarian" because it's a matter of opinion.
Secondly, while I thought it was easier to watch than the prequels, I can see why someone who never got into the series to find it hard to watch. I, personally, can't watch things like Fast and Furious; I will just zone out during the action scenes and lose interest. This movie is pretty much similar, with all the action, but I was able to pay attention because I knew the series before, and there were some familiar characters to lubricate JJ's dick.
People loved Star Trek too, and that movie had pretty much nothing to do with the series, and while I thought it was entertaining too, it wasn't the Star Trek I liked and grew up with. It played like a long commercial, just the same way as TFA.
>>63838783
There have been tons of movies over the course of history which were smashed by critics when they were first released, but then slowly became classics over the following decades.
It's a Wonderful Life is such an example. Bashed by critics when it was first released, it became a holiday classic due to reruns on TV.
>>63838846
Do you like cheese? I like cheese.
>>63830310
>cynical calculated disney product succeeds in reaching widespread appeal
>Film at 11
>>63838910
I like cheese.
>>63838903
It works both ways. TPM got good reviews at first. Original Star Wars movies got fairly bad reviews at first.
>the same ones who spam rt scores to prove that a movie is good are the same ones who cry pretentious hipster bullshit when stuff like boyshood and tree of life have high scores
>>63838540
>>63838525
Make me.
>>63830436
Of course. Back in the day people used to rank shit on 1-10 scale and not 5-10 like they do nowadays
>>63834475
they pay ppl to spam their threads on this site, what makes you think they wouldn't pay any critic ?
>>63839951
rotten tomatoes only aggregates binary reviews (good or bad) like the youtube rating system.
>>63840101
disney surely knows of /tv/let alone gives a shit about it
>>63840171
disney is paying for this spam family
check out the /b/ archive. they're deleting spoilers on that board of all places too
and for /tv/ they aren't after the 200 or so that post, but the 400,000 lurkers
>>63830310
Jar Jar Abrams is literally a reddit director
>>63840336
why is /tv/ so obsessed with reddit?
>>63833041
>just turn off your brain brah
>taking movie scores fresh on release seriously
in a few years time TFA will fall below ESB and and hover slightly above ANH (which its mostly just an updated version of)
>>63840378
because people from there won't stop coming here
>>63840437
>TFA
>above ANH
I hope you're just talking about total scores rather then average
V > IV > VII > VI > III > I > II
>>63840523
nah its better. both are simple all-out action flicks but TFA has the benefits of bigger budget and better visuals
>>63830376
this is somewhat true, a lot of people noticed it quickly but omega die hard fans refused to accept it and eventually saw what it was. the problem with this movie tho is that it still leaves the "prequals are shit" taste in peoples mouth, we all know this movie is better than the prequals, no doubt about that. but it just isn't that good, guess people were blinded by the hype and their expectations so low that this seemed like a god send
>>63840740
I like them both but 4 is obviously better simply because 7 stole most of its plot from 4 and 4 is less crammed and more compact and complete because it was meant to be a stand alone movie
>>63840740
But TFA also has lots of terrible dialogue, forced exposition, and bad drama in it that puts it below even AoTC.
>>63836898
When Max fucking Landis of all people has more gumption than the average critic, you know show business is completely fucked.
>>63840888
anh has plenty of bad and "quipy" dialogue too. both films are similar in strengths and weaknesses really. agree that it's below Aotc though.
III > I > II > V > VII > IV > VI
>>63841364
This is the worst ranking of the films I have ever seen
>>63830359
>movies
>paid reviews
That shit only happens for video games anon.
The Force Awakens strikes me as one of those movies where it gets glowing reviews the first few weeks while everyone is bathing in the afterglow, only for repeat viewings and introspection to cause the scores to gradually mellow out as people acknowledge the movie's sometimes glaring faults without the aid of rose-tinted glasses.
>>63841409
well I & II could possibly be switched cause although menace is great its story is more separated compared to the others and it doesnt feel as important. and tfa could possibly go above esb but being brand new that is to be decided, tho its definetely around that middle spot of being worse than the prequels but better than 4 & 6
>>63840171
We post all the BANES?!, Cheese Pizza, & go into a shitposting frenzy, but god help you post a star wars spoiler. That's a ban!
>>63841648
Prequel Trilogy:
III > I > powergap >>> II
Original Trilogy:
V > VI > IV
Combined:
V > VI > IV = III > VII > I > II
>>63830310
Why hello NOT Metacritic!
>>63841718
han solo dies, killed by his son kylo ren
now lets see if I get banned.
fuck I'm a mad man
>>63841731
Awful.
Mine:
PT: III>I=II
OT: IV=V>VI
Both: IV=V>VI>good movies>okay movies>fairly shitty movies>III>I=II
>>63841802
ain't going to work now, you're not going in boards off discussion posting the spoilers.
>>63841731
interesting. why 6 above 4? 6 is by far the worst imo. and why 7 right after 3, whats so good about it?
V > IV > VII > VI > III > I > II
>>63841847
>Awful.
Sudoku yourself.
>>63841851
Because VI has more going for it then IV does. Its the conclusion, the cycle passes full to Luke as a hero from bright-eyed kid to a world-weary but disciplined Jedi Knight. The final duel and confrontation with Vader and the Emperor, the Battle of Endor in space, the entire arc with Jabba, all are fantastic.
It was weaker then Episode V but its high points are higher in my eyes.
>>63841880
>VII > VI
>>63841936
>getting mad when somebody calls you out on your shitty power rankings
>>63841936
ya there are some interesting plot notes but imo it felt like it was going through end of the trilogy motions. but yeah fair enough i understand how one may prefer that aspect
>>63842020
Who are you quoting?
>>63830342
>there is literally nothing wrong with being contrarians
Contrarianism is the laziest form of criticism.
>>63837895
It was truly the worst of times
>tfw /tv/ haters and contrarians BTFO
>tfw /tv/pol/ crossposters BTFO by based Johnny B.
>tfw Star Wars is fucking back, baby
>>63842251
my thoughts exactly, I only hope the next 2 will be much more daring and go their own way. otherwise the'll go down as reboots
>>63837098
This.
Also don't forget that when Bush was president and in the early 00s most people here were politically neutral or liberal leaning
Then sometime around 2010-12 stormfront took over due to new wave of SJWs and black president
>>63830427
Found the kid born after Phantom Menace
>>63836951
>movie nobody liked or watched
haha
>>63830310
>$120.5 million for opening day
4CHAN RACISTS BTFO
>>63830376
I was 9 at the time.
I thought it was for made for five year olds.
Parents were disappointed. All the other kids at school thought it sucked except for one hardcore SWfag. The news was actually talking about how disappointing it was and how hopefully the sequel would be a return to form.
>>63838121
Rate it 10/10 you say? I'm on it!
>>63841880
Swap VII with VI and we have identical taste
>>63843006
I was 11 going on 12 when Episode 1 came out in 1999. No one liked the Gungans or Jar-Jar but people were absolutely going crazy when talking about their love of the podracing scenes, Maul's duels with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, and Maul in general.
V > II > VII > IV > III > I > VI
I feel like the only Star Wars fan with an affinity for Attack of the Clones,
>>63843104
>people were absolutely going crazy when talking about their love of the podracing scenes, Maul's duels with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, and Maul in general.
well maul is still liked especially battle of fates and some people still like the pod racing, so nothing much has changed
>casuals are always right!
>>63843104
We all thought the podracing was gay and took up too much screentime and that Maul died too soon.
The only positive thing I remember us talking about was the submarine scene and the fight with Maul up until he ended up dying.
>>63843252
>We
Not in my elementary school. We only hated the Gungans and Jar-Jar, and nothing else. Most people were expecting Maul to live to Episode Ii though.
http://strawpoll.me/6312192
>>63841583
Assuming you're being serious, if that does happen, it happens rarely. If, say, IGN gave Halo 5 a shit score, Microsoft wouldn't give them a copy of Halo 6 to review before launch, depriving them of thousands of page views and subsequently ad money. Really it's more extortion than bribery.
>>63843330
no options for liking them both but one more than the other, what a shit poll
>>63843288
Must have been a regional thing.
Nearly everybody thought Anakin was shit at my school, and podracing was just more Anakin.
>>63843418
>"I liked both equally"
>>63840415
You literally have to do that to enjoy any big budget movie. Any superhero movie, any Star Wars movie, literally any summer action movie.
Why are you in a Star Wars thread if you don't turn your brain off?
Hint: It's because you're actually retarded.
