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I loved it
>>63735600
>he likes bullshit
>>63735600Me too, anon. Fuck this board.
>>63736138Go back to Reddit
>>63735600Is this true? Is it really just a rehash of A New Hope?
>>63735600It's okay
>>63735600
Me too
Feels good not basing your opinion on the worst board of 4chans memes
>>63736210
It shares a lot of common plot elements. But no, it's its own film.
>>63736210
Yes
>>63736224
>>63736138
>>63736230
hi, reddit!
>>63736269
>not a contrarian faggot
>suddenly reddit
>>63735600
Same. Easily the best shit in 30 years.
And I just watched the old trilogy right after hitting the cinemas.
Felt like a little kid again. Sure it wasn't perfect, but I was so fucking anxious and expecting absolute shit and it turned out pretty amazing.
>>63735600
>tfw autism doesn't render you incapable of enjoying good things
>>63736210Rey wasn't confirmed Luke's daughter. Rey has no major role in the movie outcome, other than defeating Kylo.
>>63736210
yes it is beat for beat a new hope. doesn't stop it from being fucking awesome.
kylo is based and rey is kawaii fuck you all niggers
>>63736210
You won't even notice because the first 40 minutes have a really good vibe and than is just a bowl with characters from the OG trilogy, you'll like the movie while watching it because of fanservice but then you'll get out, think about it and notice that it doesn't makes sense and that it was really a depressing experience
>>63735600
it was bretty guud :D
>>63736338
>tfw the nigger will probably fuck Rey
;_;
>>63736359
The nigger was such a funny hick and it was honestly so satisfying seeing him get his ass handed again and again by everyone. I even emphathized with him. A little.
>>63736352
Welp, gotta watch it just to feel that tasty depression.
I can't wait to see the two following movies. It would actually be really interesting to see of they rehash the entire original trilogy
I hope there's no Rey-Finn relationship. Not because he's a nigger, but because it would be forced as fuck.
I loved it, too. Not a perfect movie, by any means, but amazing expirience for me. Kylo and Poe stole the show for me.
Ray and Fin are both amazing and I am glad for that.
Story is more or less episode 4, yes, but not less amazing. But action, humor, chemistty, acting, all amazing.
One thing I dont get. They were hyping Max Von Somethin and Gwendoline Christy's characters, and combined, they have less than 10 minutes.
>>63736396
The set up a stage now with that clusterfuck of sons and daughters, so I expect them to be better.
>>63736408
they seem to just be pretty good friends
they never actually make out or anything, they just share a bond over the metric tonne of shit the bad guys make them go through
>>63736352
I had the same experience, when the movie was over, i kinda felt empty and sad inside. I honestly didn't like it. And I am a die hard SW fan.
>>63736352
this
This shot was never actually used.
It was funny.
>>63736408
They kiss and then find out their siblings. Leia fucked Lando behind Hans back
>>63736455
Kylo was just an edgy teenager, what a joke!
>>63736336
the ending scene likely contained dialogue where Luke confirms he is Rey's father that was cut. the leaks were probably correct at the time they happened, Disney just discovered that the scene made people laugh uproariously.
>>63736502
why is he getting his lightsaber out and posing when there is nothing there?
>>63736210
>pair comes across an old hermit named lars san tekka who tells them what to do
this didn't happen though
>han and chewbacca help them leave jakku
this didn't happen though
>ren is rey's cousin
this didn't happen thoughat least not yet
There are definite similarities, that much is undeniable. But the execution is notably different, it's not a shot for shot rehash of ANH
>>63736546
Because:
>>63736521
>>63736502
Probably because it looks like he's having a showdown with a fucking tree.
>>63736546
Because the PR-Department thought it would look good and appeal to the new audience
Same here. Sure, it had problems, but I still liked it a lot. All air fight scenes were fucking amazing.
>>63736546
It's a literal trailer shot and a good reveal of those side hilt thingswhich thankfully were actually used in the movie and weren't entirely useless
>>63736595
>>63736546
Obviously he's sensing thatFinn and Rey are arriving.But still. Maybe it was a good thing they didn't use the actual shot. The media covered it enough as it is.
>>63736502
At least there is a similiar one, Mark Hamill voice was completely cut from the movie and it's the only thing that poor guy has left, his look was really not the best.
>>63736609
If I had one major gripe with this movie, it's that that the rebel fleet was reduced to nothing but X-Wings.
I mean, I get it, X-Wings are iconic for Star Wars but I really miss my B-Wingfu.
>>63736579
>han and chewbacca help them leave jakku
>this didn't happen thoughDid they leave Jakku in the millennium falken?
>>63736625
They are intended to be exhaust vents. His lightsaber is made of junk by ancient blueprints and is not as advanced as proper lightsabers.
>>63736643
I liked himin the last shot. He totally delivered that serene Obi-wan feel.
>>63736653yes, but not with han and chewy - they come in later
>>63736210
There wasn't anything original about ANH either, if you remember. Kurosawa could have sued for plagiarism if he was a litigious Jew.
The Jew fears the samurai.
>>63736653
>Did they leave Jakku in the millennium falken?Yes, it belonged to the owner of a scrapyard on Jakku. Once they leave Jakku they are captured by a large freighter ship that is flown by Han and Chewie. Han says that they were very easy to track once they left Jakku, and If his freighter could detect that the Falcon was active again the First Order are definitely aware.
>>63736647
B wing is best wing
>>63736647
They are a shit design though.
Good riddance!
>>63736455
>Captain Phasma is hyped months before release
>her armor is cool as fuck
>she's like eight feet tall
>played by a GoT meme actress
>empowered by feminists who finally get to see their gender represented by a drone who can't hit shit with a blaster
>movie comes out
>she has maybe five lines
>gets tackled by a Wookiee
>forced to shut down the shield generator by a darkie manlet and a geriatric
>does nothing cool or memorable besides get clucked
lel
>>63736698
Thanks. I'll watch it later today then I'll see it for myself. Hope it's gonna be gud
>>63736697
yeah, the first 5 seconds, then she gave him the sword and he did not take it resulting in the longest and most awkward minute of their life with a camera spinning on them for no apparent reason instead of just going black
>>63736729
Also never reveals her face
>>63736502
The ever popular "who are you - i'm no one" dialogue from the trailer is also absent in the movie.
>>63736711and then they fight a CGI tentacle monster
>>63736729
You forgot >gets thrown in the trash compactor
It's not like we should give a shit about her.
>>63736766
that kills anyone without plot armor instantly
>>63736711Is han angry at first because they fled with the Falken but then changes his mind after he sees that the pair is carrying a Lightsaber (Luke's Lightsaber?) with them?
>>63736764
I forgot about that one. Was it Maz's line? I think they did that with Finn instead.
>>63736729
>>63736767
kek its almost exactly like boba fett
>>63736729
Was pretty brutal when she told the troopers to fire on the villagers
>>63736798
No.
Stop.
>>63736798No. He changes his mind when he finds out that the kids, especially Rey, are fucking awesome at handling the ship.
>>63736793
Wasnt it a baby sarlaac? Pottery in motion
>>63736811
At least Boba Fett is a badass
>>63736752
God, fuck that last shot where the camera spins around them, it looked like shit. Especially when the shot before it is fucking perfect to end the movie on. Why did they add it?
>>63736798
>Is han angry at first because they fled with the Falken but then changes his mind after he sees that the pair is carrying a Lightsaber (Luke's Lightsaber?) with them?Go watch the goddamn movie.
>>63736798
no, the lightsaber is found in a place han takes them later, the droid and the fact that rey is a mary sue that can pilot the falcon better than han makes him change his mind
>>63735600
>I loved it
>>63736849
No. He accomplished nothing except for catching Han in Cloud City.
>>63736798No, they don't have the Lightsaber until later in the movie. He is skeptical about them but just after they capture Finn and Rey, the freighter is boarded by two different groups of Bounty Hunters tracking Han. Finn & Rey help Han escape the ship, they all board the Falcon and Rey proves to be a good pilot so Han warms up to her and offers her a job with him as a smuggler
>>63736873
Boba tracked down han, alerted vader, got in a shootout with luke, and then took han to jabbas for mad dosh and puss
>>63736856
that and the last shot of the fight between rey and kylo are the worst example of direction this movie has to offer
>>63736738
Don't take /tv/ too seriously, the movie is a lot of fun and the plot having similarities with IV isn't a death sentence
>>63736859
>marry sue
Disgusting
>>63736856
but how dynamic was it! They were standing still in silence but the world was spinning around them
It's like poetry, it rhymes
>>63736798
>Falken
>>63736798The Finn and Rey were in the middle of repairing the ship when the freighter ship got them. They hid first cause they thought it was a First Order ship. Rey showed competence in handling the ship which impresses Han and Chewie as much as Han doesn't want to mention it. They found the saber the scene after.
>>63735935
no he likes black cock
>>63736935
Anakin's child prodigy feats? Rey beats them multiple times and makes even less sense while doing it.
>>63735600
>plebs are no longer afraid to admit liking glib facsimiles on /tv/ anymore
What a strange new world, that has such people in it.
>>63737035
Not really. Anakin's pod racing and Naboo fighter shit was way over the line.
>>63737056
how? it was determined he had been doing that sort of shit, just like how luke had been
rey did the equivalent of what?
>no-one really cares that Han dies, only Chewbacca (!) really emotes, Leia doesn't even cry
>Kylo's motivation makes no real sense, seems to hate his parents for no real reason apart from edgelord
>new empire has 90% of Luke's travel but doesnt just search the one section of map they don't have
>starkiller doesnt really do anything that a Death Star can't, and it takes an entire sun to power it
>blow up Coruscant for some reason
>everyone leaves their enemies alone for no reason (everyone to Kylo, Kylo to Finn, then Rey to Kylo again)
>everyone apart from the bad guys do literally nothing for 3 decades
>Poe and Finn crash, Poe is presumed dead and then magically appears with no explanation
>R2 reawakens with no explanation
>Anakin's/Luke's lightsabre magically appears with no explanation
>General Hux (?) is some terrible fucking casting, almost as bad as Kylo
>Why does Kylo wear the mask?
>Kylo being Han and Leia's son is revealed rather mundanely
>no real light sabre duels, cutaway during at least one of them
>strange editing and pacing in general
>millenium falcon can enter star killer via warp drive, disables the shield so everyone else can get through, despite entry being possible anyway
>Kylo is particularly difficult to understand, most people speak quite muffled
>terrible attempts at humour, though delivery was good
>pretty bad acting from most involved
>Luke doesn't even speak, just gaped at Rey like she was naked
>good guys avoid fire by just running/flying in a straight lineI liked it.
>>63736643
He said: "You've taken your first steps" when Rey touches his lightsaber
>>63737035
Anakin destroyed a Trade Federation control ships, single-handedly saving the Gungan army and Naboo while at 1/3rds Rey's age.
The most Rey did was fly an already top of the line ship after crashing it multiple times and beat a wounded wannabe-Sith.
>>63737086
For one, Rey was significantly older and had apperantly piloted space ships herself before.
Anakin is 10, climbs aboard a star fighter and takes out the enemy flag ship dreadnaught, half accidentally. >Now this is pod racing
>>63737104
You can stop pasting this shit.
>>63737056
>>63737086
>>63737148
she solo pilotes a broken millennium falcon going inside broken starships and overmanuvering TIE fighters, after thats she proceed to repair shit that the owner of the ship didn't know was possible, all of that with 0 knowledge of the ship as she said it was a piece of junk when they were on the planet and was going for a different ship.
>>63737148
that sounds reasonable then
>climbs aboard a star fighter, does just fine
he was fucking it up almost the entire time
Give it to me quick /tv/, how do I spoil this movie for a bunch of normies?
>>63736647
dont want to confuse the audience
>>63737104
lol
You must hate everything in life
>>63737159
I was kinda hoping they'd make the trilogy Kylo's redemption while Rey falls to the Dark Side.
>>63737180
>using the word "normie"
You might want to shave that neckbeard anon.
>>63737148
>had apperantly piloted space ships herself before
only the equivalent of a motorbike for what we know, and she was poor as fuck so it's difficult she could've piloted much else.
>>63737104
it's almost as if we're getting sequels and most of that criticism is completely subjective or isn't actual criticism
>>63737224
I can't remember, did Luke fly any other star-ships before piloting an X-Wing and destroying the first Death Star.
>>63737104
>Kylo's motivation
>Why does Kylo wear the mask?
He wants to be the new Darth Vader.
>starkiller doesnt really do anything that a Death Star can't, and it takes an entire sun to power it
Techically, it launched that death ray across half the universe, while Death Star operated from the orbit.
>no real light sabre duels, cutaway during at least one of them
Because no real lightasbre wielders. Kylo is the best, but he's still not a Jedi or Sith.The rest I won't bite
>>63737254
Luke piloted his T-16 and shot desert rats.
He was appreantly hot shit among his friends.
>>63737214
sup reddit!
>>63737161
That particular Star Destroyer she likely knew very well
>with 0 knowledge of the ship
She did demonstrate knowledge of the Falconwhen she realizes it is Millenium Falcom
>>63736455
Finn was literally Jar Jar Binks
>>63737234
Lol that faggot uses the notecard method of plotting.
>>63737284
This thing looks ridiculous, if Picasso designed a spaceship. I like it.
But still, if Rey can pilot the Falcon with minor prior experience, it doesn't strike me as something out of place compared to what both Skywalkers did.
>>63736210
ausfag here
yes
the nail in the coffin was the rebuilt deathstar and the rebuilt destory deathstar sequence
>>63736210
You fucked up in 2 parts but hey, good job
>>63736798
Everyone is forgetting that also they they told Han that they had the map to Luke
>>63736905
Nah, >>63736873 is right
>>63737397
yea this
>>63737323
yeah, problem is she does worse shit than that, like doing jedi mindtrick with 0 prior experience with the force, using a blaster for the first time and oneshotting 3-4 stoormtroopers in a row, knowing and repairing the falcon better than Han and overpowering kylo ren in a forcepull competition (1st time using that power)
>>63736153
Yeah, fuck it, why not?
/tv/ is drivel now anyways. everything gets spun out into a meme or a cheap shot at going back to reddit.
at least reddit gets some enjoyment from the short term circlejerk before the dusts settles. how /tv/ enjoys anything is beyond me
Finn was literally Jar Jar Binks.
>dumb as fuck
>obnoxious
>forced comedy
>if he helped it was by a complete accident.
>>63737421
It did take several tries.
She's apparently quite knowledgeable about Jedi powers, that's it.
>>63737397
Oh shit, yeah. Obviously.>tfw Han and Luke didn't get to reunite one last time.
>>63737426
>taking /tv/ seriously
This place is filled with autists and neckbeards, what did you expect anon.
Also "Hello reddit!" I guess.
>>63737427
>saves poe
>has vital information how to destroy the starkiller base
>saves rey
totally useless
>>63737421
No one's claiming she's not Mary Sue though when it comes to Force powers.
>>63737462
jarjar convinced the senate to get sheev in power
so not much difference
Here is my theory senpai.
>That scene where Rey finds Luke's lightsaber and has the hallucinations
She is recalling when Ben Solo was taken from her either by Snoke (in which they would have been looking for the child of Luke and he would have lied to protect her and said he was Luke's child) or he was taken by Luke/the new jedi order for training.
>The scene where Kylo kills Han and says he's afraid he does not have the strength to do it
I think that Kylo is a good guy pretending to be a bad guy to get close to Snoke so he can kill him or something along those lines. I think that what he meant was that he didn't have the strength to kill his own father but he knew that he had to do it for the greater good of the galaxy. His father gave him the strength to kill him because he was reminded that there were still people who cared about him and he found new resolve in being reminded of what he was trying to protect.
Thoughts?
>>63737462
>vital information how to destroy the starkiller base
Aim for the hole, eh?
>>63737441
>>63737468
yeah, jedi powers, driving, hand on hand combat, engineering, knows every language used in the movie, aim with blasters and plot armor, it's not just force powers.
>>63737426
>oh shit, everyone is liking this movie...
>If I hate on it, it will look like I know more!
>ITS SHIT... AND IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME... R-REDDIT? HAHA? RIGHT???
>>63737494
Force is actually an universal explanation.
>>63737515
>We'll use the force.
>That's... that's not how the force works!
Sensible chuckle.
>>63736681
I guess that explains the bizarre noises it was making
>>63737490
No. Kylo obviously had a personal inner conflict. He's not a good guy pretending to be bad guy, when he has lone conversations with his dead Sith idol-sama, telling him to show him the ways of the dark side. He's motivated to serve the darkness as is.
>>63737490
I just thought Ren was such a fanboy of Vader he wanted to be on the darkside like him, but he was good at heart. The bridge scene was like the decision where he could either stop what he was doing or kill Han. When Han saw the humanity in him he thought he could trust him. The sun setting was either just symbolism for Ren's choice or a reminder to Ren of what hes trying to become
>>63737462
>Saved Poe out of pure convenience
>Jar Jar guided the Jedi to his leader and helped them
>Has vital information on how to destroy the Starkiller base
>Jar Jar united in peace the Gungans and the people of Naboo and became an embassator
>Saves Rey
He didn't do jack shit to save her
>>63737515
yeah, except even Han called bullshit one last time in this movie
>>63737530
Standing at the entrance of the theater right now.
Im not making this up, it's full of 30yo with unshaven necks and clothing that's obviously 3 sizes to big.
You can clearly identify those who came out if their basement for the first time in months.
>>63737562
Congrats. Have fun with all the clapping.
>>63737547
>>63737492
wait
he didn't even say correction information
he just said some bullshit to save rey
>>63737562
It was 20-something guys in my theater.
>>63737537
Being such a Vader fanboy means acknowledging his redemption. His idolization could come from the fact that, like Vader, he has to use the dark side but ultimately destroys the sith.
It would have been nice if we got his opinion on Vader's redemption but they're probably saving it for another film.
Also, to be honest, the only scene I really liked that was anywhere near close to A New Hope was the final scene with Luke and Rey.
>>63737594
He was right about the core thing in the middle, just not about the shields
>>63737594
He then figured a way - making Phasma disable the shields at a gunpoint.
>>63735600
fuck you
garbage, its made for kids and its made for people who didnt see last hope.
>>63735600
>loving edgy villains
>fucking lore
Holy fuck this shit is bad.
From a technical aspect, it's a near masterpiece. Shot absolutely beautifully. It also has the best practical effects of all time and the best motion capture performance of all time.
>>63737611
I get what you mean, but
>I will finish what you started,
probably referred into building an empire, not destroying it.
I wished they went deeper into his motives though.
>>63737658
>implying he isn't a deconstruction
>implying the fact that he's trying so hard to be intimidating and dark is part of his tryign to compensate for wanting to be a good guy
>>63737666
Dont try reason with /tv/ we all probably like the movie, but we will still hate the movie
>>63737639
Wrong. All the shit they reference is from the old trilogy.
>>63737658
Cool input, senpai.
>>63737666
snoke and maz looked fake as fuck
>>63737683
>wanting to be edgy just for the sake of it.
Man, even Darth Maul was a better villain and he has like 3 lines of dialogue.
>>63737702
i can understand why you might think that
you know, if you had play-doh for brains
People always talk about how they rightfully pretended the prequels didn't exist but I don't think they did completely ignore them.
I feel that Kylo Ren is very much a prequel inspired character. He's essentially Anakin but instead of trying to make you like and sympathize with him you're supposed to hate him. I feel like someone was like "man, people really fucking hated Anakin, seems like a pretty easy villain for this new movie."
He was such a whiny cunt and ugly as fuck but I really liked him. It was eerie how much he looked like Han but at the same time how much he looked like Anakin. His acting wasn't anything special but the casting was really spot on.
Anyone else feel the same?
>>63737490
1) we will find out later, no way anyone could really guess it correctly
2) I think Kylo thought he would finally be the real darth vader if he killed all who he cared for, like anakin vs obi-wan, ("I am torn" vs "I still feel the light side") or killing the jedis in temple...
Prequel references that I noticed
* Kylo Ren quips that Stormtroopers are so incompetent that they should've stuck with the Clones
* C3PO's red arm
* "The Sith"
* "The Outer Rim"
* Maz's base has the podracing flags
>>63737716
I can understand why you would like a Rehash of A new Hope if you had old Play-doh for brains.They don't even calculate the speed light trayectory when getting out of the cargo ship for fucks sake
>>63737631
Like how Jar Jar accidentally thew a bomb at a tank.
>>63737749
btw, can anyone explain C3PO's red arm?
>>63737785
no because there was none in the movie
>>63737743
The reasons I liked Kyle was pretty much exactly for how pathetic he was with his tantrums and that Vader facade. He had absolutely no reason to look and act like he does, but does it anyway.
I just wish his motives were revealed a bit morebefore he killed his dad.I really want to know why he has such a hard on for the dark side when he explicitly states that the light is calling for him.
>>63737785
He spent a lot of time fisting Princess Leia while she was on her period now its been dyed red
>>63737785
It wasn't explained in the movie but he has a red arm in Attack of the Clones too so I'm assuming it was a reference to that
>>63737181
they didn't give a fuck in RTJ, there were like four different styles of ship fighting
>>63737666
So its basically Avatar, all spectacle with no substance. Got it, maybe now with my expectations lowered I'll enjoy it.
SWIDF is bretty annoying.
The movie is at least on par with episode 3
>>63736210
this anon >>63736352 speaks truth
I enjoyed it, but being totally honest i was pretty mad there wasn't really anything new. You've kind of got to not think about it to enjoy it, unfortunately.
>>63737830
different situation. normies wouldnt have paid enough attention to know what an a-wing/b-wing is but anyone would recognize an x-wing as the ship that blew up the death star
Was there any reason Snoke and Maz needed to be CGI?
Snoke was just a big guy with a fucked up face and Maz was just a tiny orange person.
>>63737785
I thought it was a joke on silver leg no-one ever noticed.
>>63737833
>From a technical aspect
Storywise, although very similar to A New Hope, it's still pretty good, and has a few twists and turns.
>>63737833
It doesn't have substance no more than the original Star Wars from '77 had.
>>63737805
Yeah, I liked how pathetic they made him out to be, and it seemed very much intentional with his temper tantrums having comedic undertones rather than trying to be intimidating.
He also gets cut by a fucking storm trooper in a lightsaber fight who doesn't even know how to use a lightsaber. I mean yeah, he's wounded but it still shouldn't have been a contest. It's also retarded he just didn't force push him or some shit.
I did like how Kylo doesn't seem to be a sith or a jedi either. He just has some decent force capabilities and a make-shift lightsaber.
People complain about how he's a shitty autist and not some all powerful badass while in the same breath complaining about it being a copy of ANH. They miss the intention of how the character is meant to come across.
>tfw mildy interested in this movie but don't want to be a good goy and give the Disney and Hollywood shills any shekels for making a cash cow SJW fest out of a fantastic film series that had been adequately laid to rest.
>>63737839
>>63736352
Nah. I've been thinking about it the whole day.
It's just simply a great Star Wars movie.
>>63737880
>cash cow SJW
How on earth is it SJW anything
Finn and Rey aren't love interests, if that's what you're worried about.
>>63737896
Their relationship is fucking awful though.
>>63737876
>his temper tantrums having comedic undertones rather than trying to be intimidating.
that's still a writing mistake, it's just a different kind of mistake. intentionally doing something incorrectly doesn't make it a good idea.
>>63737468
she's also somehow the worlds greatest engineer, and she loses one fight all movie, winning countless others.
MARY SUE
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>>63737896
>Finn
>Muh minorities
>Rey
>Muh strong womyn
Rey is a Mary Sue.
>>63737888
you mean, thinking about 10c getting deposited into your account?
>>63737908
Don't get me wrong I do agree. I thought the storm troopers turning and walking away was way too on the nose and made him look like a huge fucking retard. Like he was just some giant baby or something.
>>63737896
If there is a problem, it's more the fact how over-capable Rey turns out to be.
But I guess everything can be explained with Force or some shit.I'm glad she atleast got abducted once.
>>63737913
Just like all the other heros in the films?
>>63737876
>I did like how Kylo doesn't seem to be a sith
god im so glad they didnt bring the sith back
the dark side can be an omnipresent villain without everyone using red lightsabers and calling themselves darth
>>63737933
I honestly just laughed out loud at that one.
Like seriously, that shit HAD to happened with Vader, Dooku and Palpatine all the fucking time. Who the fuck wants to work with sociopathic Sith extremist?
>>63737112
no he never
>>63737963
He might get a Darth name next movie after his "final training". So don't hold your breath.
>>63737970
Nope, Vader choked people that didn't have enough faith.
>>63737978
Nah. I mean, Kylo is part of the knighthood of Renn. I doubt they'd pull the unnecessary Sith carbage unless Snoke turns out to be Plagueis or something.
>>63736269
Hi 9gag try hard
>>63737925
Leia is strong
Lando is black
>>63737896
rey being a mary sue is SJW stronk womens bullshit. The rest is fine.
>>63738025
Lando is a secondary Character. Leia never fights one on one with Vader and wins 'cause shenanigans.
>>63737933
more like they shit themselves knowing he could fuck them up. It was comedic but it didn't ruin kylo's image, him taking off his mask did that
>>63738053
No, but she kills Jabba with a chain. That's something.
I don't mind Rey being the protagonist hero, but marvelously overperforming in almost everything is a bit fucking annoying. Especially thelast duel. I feel it should've ended in a draw with the ground splitting them apart.
>>63737180
PM redditors with the message "Kylo Ren kills Han Solo, his father, at the end of Episode VII."
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>>63736856
Exactly, it was fucking awful while most of the film had amazing, stunning visuals.
>>63738053
> Leia never fights one on one with Vader and wins 'cause shenanigans.
Vader was a highly trained Sith who was the strongest force user in the universe.
Ren is a hardly trained force user with a home-made lightsaber. An untrained storm trooper almost school him with a lightsaber and you're acting as if it's uneblievable that Rey couldn't beat him when he was heavily wounded from being both shot and cut by a lightsaber.
>>63737180
Don't be an asshole.
What would you accomplish?
>>63737880
Then fucking don't. Go masturbate to some holocaust corpses instead, it'll make you feel better.
Was the opening scene meant to look like a bunch of nazis ransacking the homes of some jews and lining them up and shooting them?
Thank you jew jew
>>63737462
>defending a nig nog
>>63738191
Edgy
>>>/b/
>>63737962
anakin is the only comparable character. Luke is fairly incompetent in a fight until RTJ, han is an experienced pilot and gunfighter but never does anything ridiculous like the scene in the desert with rey fucking up a bunch of TIE fighter in a ship she's never flown before.She also lack the character flaws of anakin in that she is fairly level headed and intelligent.
>>63738154
>He was trained by Luke SKywalker
>By Snoke
>Fucking stops a blaster ray without even concentrating.
He is hardly trained?
Also, the references to the holocaust at the beginning are pretty burned out.
>>63738230
>with rey fucking up a bunch of TIE fighter in a ship she's never flown before
Finn shoots down both TIE fighters. Unless you're talking about Rey positioning the Falcon so the locked turret could hit the second TIE. That was pretty whizzkid.
>She also lack the character flaws of anakin in that she is fairly level headed and intelligent.
She spends most of the film in denial about her parents selling her into slavery.
>>63737421
>doing jedi mindtrick with 0 prior experience with the force
well it seemed to me like as she realised there is something forceful happening to her she just tried the old meme of mind tricks that is probably part of the fairy tales about the myth of jedi she grew up op. And it doesnt work at first at all.
>using a blaster for the first time and oneshotting 3-4 stoormtroopers in a row
she clearly states that she is not holding it the first time, she quickly realises that it doesnt shoot because there is safety on. like she handled guns before but maybe not for some time as she was basicly slave working just not to die of hunger. And slaves are ususally not allowedto handle firearms, hence the "this is why i can also handle lightsabre" staff
>knowing and repairing the falcon better than Han
the ship stands there, opened for years, like some fucking tank on a pedestal.She probably spend a lot of time checking it out because she does scavenging for living. She knows it is a junk, so she probably also knows why. and it is YTfreighter, actually pretty common ship in the universe. But shefucking struggles with the controls for a while. I only didnt like that falcon is obviously madeout fo adamantium.
>>63738154
we see him stop a blaster shot and hold it in place like it's nothing. Rey used telekinesis for the first time literally seconds before the fight.Either she is a mary sue or kylo got nerfed between scenes
Why didn't Snoke teach him how to make a non shit lightsaber
>>63736647
pretty sure i saw a b-wing after the final battle, just lyin there in the base
>>63738296
Rey's force powers are mary-sue but Ren is not even comparable to Vader and when she finally does fight him he's heavily wounded and still almost beats her.
>>63738296
getting shot in the gut by a laser crossbow might do that
>>63737180
post this
>>63738146
After reading the leaks, any interest I had in seeing it died. A blatant A New Hope rehash, devoid of any originality. It's obvious Rey is going to be Luke's daughter, only Luke made her with the Force (which goes back to that conversation Sheev had with Anakin about being able to do that), which is why she was able to beat Kylo despite her having no training. Luke will say "No. I am your father" because reference and the audience will cheer like the fucking normie shits they are.
>>63738274
I was talking about her epic flying skilzz. And her fixing the falcon with ease. Anakin was supposed to be a misguided messiah, and her denial is all but resolved at the end of the first movie in the trilogy. She's a mary sue dude
>>63738333
legit question: How many limbs did he lose? I saw his hand, and probable a leg, also the huge gash on his face, man say what you want about Kylo but he tanked a crowsbow shot, strikes from Finn and some from Rey until Rey tapped into the raw force
>>63738116
Rey should have been great at taking out your average goon and mong faced whatever. Then comes up against Kylo only to be completely outclassed.
It means she would have a real reason to go and do some proper training. If she's able to best Kylo already, what's the fucking point?
It doesn't make sense and has about as much depth as a fucking puddle.
But hey that's what pandering to the "STRONG WOMYN" audience does.
>>63738116
I liked the last part.It had a feel of three raged persons that handle weapons they dont really know how to use. The onlycompetent one was pretty badly wounded, but also for him it wasprobably a long time since he stoodwith his lightbastard against something else than starship avionics.
Also we dont yet know whot is the nature of said awakening. yeah, it is convenient plot mover if it is some process that actually imbues a person with forsce powers.
btw for me it felt like she could slip to the dark side in this moment easily, she would even probably finish him off. Yes, she had force powers but she had no idea what is she daling with. Now she needs proper training, she needs to be told what it is she experiences and how not to fuck up. For her it is all just fairy tale come true
>>63738361
With the pipe shit it was obvious where the problem was and she has been around machinery for most of her life so it was probably a simple fix, and the other time she just ripped out some piece added by the jew trader guy
>>63738378
that's what I explained to my brother that said Rey became too op, she tapped into raw force,not knowing what she tapped into, imo it really seemed like dark side fueled berserker rage
I was hoping Kylo got the yellow sith eyes when they were fighting
>>63738385
>we need more wommenz in STEM
that was all I saw
>stops blaster in midair
>less skilled then vader
Fuck off, even Vader could only block shots not permafreeze energy bolts.
>>63738440
Vader was a cripple in a suit.
If he didn't get fucked by Obi Wan and continued to train in the dark side I think it's safe to say he would be able to do that and more.
>>63738359
Cool story. Now fuck off or go see it.
>>63737896rey kisses finn on his forehead when he's unconscious at the end of the movie
>>63738505
to be fair there is that gratuitous 20 minute scene of Finn railing Carrie Fishers ass
>Never market it as anything but "STAR WARS: The Force Awakens."
>might aswell be a spin-off
>title scroll
>STAR WARS
>EPISODE VII
FUCK. YES. That felt so satisfying.
>>63738457
except that in the OT being physically weak has nothing to do with your Force powers.
>>63737462
If you play it like that then Jar Jar also got some shit done.
>>63735600
I didn't like it that much :(
>>63738505
Yeah and then she literally friend zones him and says hes her friend.
shes getting poes dick
>>63738803
I'm torn apart.
I though the movie was literally perfect as a star wars sequel
>>63738840
I think you're literally perfect as a Disney shil
>>63738809
this
notice that she hasn't met poe in this movie, I'm pretty sure she's gonna want that dick the moment she sees him
also am I the only one who thinks he's like a perfect mix of luke and han? I mean just fucking look at him in this picture, literally hamill/10
>>63738875
forgot
I thought it was all right. Nothing special, but it was still fun.
My only issue? The actor playing Finn has the charisma of a wooden plank.
Also, Ren -or rather, the actor- really steals the whole fucking film.
Also also, there's no way that's Peter Meyhew in the Chewbacca suit all the time. Maybe in shots where Chewy is sitting down or walking, but running or going up ladders? No fucking way.
>>63737925
How bad is Rey? Maybe I'm a soggy knee or something but I really can't stand my impression of her being the JJ abrams special: woman who tries to act like a man, is stronk and don't need no man, innately excellent at whatever she needs to be, spunky and hard-edged but good hearted.
It would have flown in the face of the whole star wars family relationship shit butI would have liked Bogedya to end up being Luke's heir. Challenge and turn on its head the notion of hereditary greatness with the force and make it a case of will, discipline and force of spirit rather than who your daddy was.
>>63736210
The "poetry" of star wars exists in every movie, it rhymes
It had a ton of cool imaginative stuff in it, but:
>the movie feels like it's just trying to go from one scene to the next, it's hard to feel any underlying narrative
>way, WAY too many similarities with the original
>Rey becomes too competent in very specific uses of the force too fast, right when the plot requires it
The characters would be fine if the script didn't try to rush them through the plot and funnel them into "REMEMBER THIS THING FROM THE ORIGINAL?" moments. Rey's backstory was showing promise, but it kind of came and went as it pleased. It would have been interesting if she had been REALLY obsessed on going back home, or if her decision to stop waiting for her parents had been more cathartic.
I hope they got as many references out of their way in this movie to do something interesting with the next one, but I don't know. People thought the same would happen with Star Trek: Into Darkness.
I loved it too, but the biggest thing holding it back was that there was nothing really iconic in the movie. Nothing I can see being remembered for decades. No "I am your father", no trench run, no award ceremony, no twin sunset moment, all that kind of stuff. What TFA did well, it did really fucking well, it just lacked any really unique, memorable, star wars-ish moments that will be remembered for years.
Also, apart from any returning themes, John Williams' score was pretty forgettable, which is pretty damn disappointing...
>>63739039
Chewbacca is played by a Finnish basketball player called Joonas Suotamo in the action scenes.
I liked the movie but a few things really bugged me out
like all weird usages of hyperspace.
In episode 4 it's clearly stated that you got to calculate the jump very carefully to not end up inside a star or smashed into a planet and here they just go "lol just start the jump from inside the hangar" and "lol let's just drop hyperspace right on the fucking surface of the planet"
basically it was just used to do "cool" things rather than actually make sense.
the giant death star sort of bugged me a bit but then it sort of made sense after they explained that the beams go through hyperspace themselves.
Still it makes no sense that it just depletes the star, what then? do they just hyperspace the whole planet somewhere else like zonama sekot or whatever it was called did?
it gives me a headache if I think about the implications
>>63739116
That's true. I think the most iconic thing in the movie is Kylo's lightsaber.
>>63739162
>>it gives me a headache if I think about the implications
It's best not to think too hard about Star Wars. The Death Star had the same problem.
I want to go see it but every theatre is going to be flooded with normies at least until the weekend is over. Do you think I'll be safe enough if I go on a Monday afternoon?
>>63739116
Not evenhan's death scene?
People will at the very least remember that it happened
>>63736338
this. it's less about "what" happens, it's more about "how" and "with who"
the characters, the arc about the force surrounding us, all the classic and common themes and actors are the main reason why this movie works. and the way it was filmed.
It's basically like the Star Trek reboot, with working characters and a better script about people and emotions.
>>63739190
Don't forget that there always is the possibility of being bombed by some sand niggers
>>63739190
Ausfag here, I went and saw it today
The normies weren't that bad, they applauded when the movie finally started after half an hour of ads and then again at the end and once more after the credits
Apart from that they were basically silent
>>63737494
Her skills:
>tech, makes sort of sense since she is a tech scavenger
>scavenger on a hostile planet, ergo everyone has some blaster skills
>is shown to be strong in the force, and learns some tricks during the film. Kylo Ren still has the more impressive skills.
Also, we all know that limited force skills make you better in everything, and the film hints that her skills are awakening.
Also mary sue? She is shown to be scared multiple times during the film and to be quite naieve.
Seriously, I don't understand these complaints when we square them against other star wars films. Or is Citizen Kane now the only scale we use for films? Everything that is not Citizen Kane is shit and so on?
>>63739235
this
I thought the whole thing was beautifully executed, even the pottery symbollism
>>63737543
He probably has some insecurity issues, stemming from his legacy of being the grandson of Darth Vader.
Maybe he felt he wasn't up to the job and collapsed under the stress of being the 'next big force thing'. Fear-Anger-Darkside,etc.
>>63736338
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's beat for beat, there were some differences eg the cantina scene stand-in happened later on in the movie instead of before leaving sand planet
And besides the major generic plot descriptions like 'rebels figure out the plan to stop the death star' and 'death star blows up' most of the execution is different and there are a lot more new scenes and events that don't have an ANH parallel
Remember the SW Ring Theory before you see Episode 7: http://www.starwarsringtheory.com/
>>63737446
yeah that's the first thing I thought of when he died
>>63737683
They even call him on that during the film, I think it was Rey or Han who called him an edgelord who should just act normal instead of the whole 2dark&broody4u
>>63739235
I think that certainly has the biggest chance out of anything else in the movie of being remembered,and to be honest, despite the fact that I knew it was coming, it still hit pretty damn hardbut I dunno, I think beyond that there's not much iconic. Not to say everything else is bad or anything, but still.
>>63739344
I enjoyed the movie a lot but I do have to agree there wasn't anything in particular besides that one moment that really stood out as something that would become an iconic piece of cinema
Did anyone notice that the on switch for the lightsabre is now that round thing at the top instead of that rectangular thing? Tickled my autism.
>>63736138
Agreed.
So is Snoke the best or what?
>GENRUUUHHHHL
>>63739414
I had never even noticed a switch being used to activate the lightsaber before desu, I thought it was force powered or something
>>63736712
I like the B wing but my fave is the A-wing
Is there anything canon written about the period where Luke goes on trying to train Force sensitive younglings after RotJ?Anything canon written about Han and Leia's son?
>>63738574
made me chuckle
>>63739039
Chewbacca was also played by finnish basketball player called Joonas Suortamo or something like that. Finnish national basketball teams coach got called by the cast that do they have a 209cm tall blonde guy available.
I like how they kept using puppets and animatronics. That vulture was kinda cool. I want one as an alarm clock.
>>63739116
I think Kylo's character and Finn maybe are the most iconic things to come out of this.
>>63739975
Damn right.
I absolutely loved all the creatures in Jakku and at the cantina. Actually felt like a proper Star Wars movie there.
Is it me or there was no wilhielm screams in the movie?
>>63736210
LITERALLY WHO THE FUCK CARES
A NEW HOPE IS THE MONOMYTH
EVERYTHING IS A REHASH OF THE MONOMYTH, FROM ZELDA TO LORD OF THE RINGS
LITERALLY WHO THE FUCK CARES
>>63740223
There was one I believe when they be killin niggas in that village on Jakku
WHO WAS THE OLD MAN GIVING THE THING TO GUATEMALAN JEW?
AN OLD FRIEND?
A FORMER BIG GUY?
I hate that I cannot admit that I hate it in real life. ;_;
>>63740223
Oh fuck. I can't remember or wasn't paying attention.
I usually always spot them and there was two in RotJ.
>>63740237
so you're telling me that there is a Death Star like station (Starkiller Base) in The Legend of Zelda and LoTR?
>>63740291
The Moon and the Eye of Zordon.
>>63737148
Are you forgetting that Episodes 1-3 were also awful? No use legitimizing a shit film with another shit film.
>>63735600
Check em though
>>63740322
Correct but the problem with the force awakens is that "Starkiller Base" is literally a scaled up Death Stare.
>>63740223
>>63740281
when finn is escaping the star destroyer in the hanger a stormtrooper lets out a wilhelm scream during a massive explosion from the blaster.
it was quite hard to hear
How is a woman a storm trooper when they are all clones of the same man?
>>63740237
is the monomyth in pic related?
>>63740384
they're not clones.
they say that the new batch of stormtroopers were just conditioned from birth rather than being jango clones.
>>63740369
Oh yeah, I think you're right!
Side note, that TIE getting stuck with the cable was the funniest shit.
>>63740400
FUCKING DROPPED
Yeah me too it was surprisingly not bad but the ending sucked when chewy got killed by kyloren
>>63740237
There's a difference between having a similar structure that a bunch of stories in general follow and blatantly just copying ideas from the previous movies and replacing them with different names
Having a THIRD death star was a retarded idea
>>63735600Me too.
No, it's not a deep as fuck movie that leaves you thinking about the big questions of life. But neither is any other Star Wars movie. It's a silly space opera, and that's exactly what it should be. Unlike the prequels, it actually pulls it off.
>>63740384
The empire or "new order" or what ever they are calling the villains now abandoned the clone storm trooper idea after Episode III or in the time between Episode III and IV.
Cloning apparently was too expansive and they were lacking good genes
>>63740426
It was bigger though.
>>63740426
>with dif
It's called Starkiller Base so it can't be just another Death Star am I rite? Look, it even destroys entire star systems instead of planets :3
>>63736819
All I could think was "Asserting that they are definitely the bad guys"
>>63736408>kiss on forehead>"hey we're just friends"
I think Disney step'd between them.
>>63740384
They arent clones this time. They're children taken from their parents and trained since birth apparently.
So is this the most violent disney movie yet?
If you maybe ignore tron legacy.
>>63735600
I loved it too, I'm loving /tv/'s breaking down over it as well, they are pretty much /pol/ now, its amazing
It was decent asides from Rey "Master Jedi" Skywalker and "OMG LUKE LIGHTSABER THIS IS SO IMPORTANT".
Also Rey and Leia shouldn't have been hugging. It should have been a conflicted scene in which they sense their relation through the force BUT are unable to display affection to one another BECAUSE THEY ARE GODDAMN STRANGERS AND HAVE NEVER SEEN EACH OTHER BEFORE (if they're going to fill in flashbacks with Leia having seen Rey, then Rey should have reacted with that mix of confusion yet distant connection.)
>>63735600
OP = KEK
>>63737977
In Maz's place, when Rey finds the saber, touches it and gets some vision
Man I can't wait for the Director's Cut
>>63736408
Don't kid yourself. Of course there will be.
>>63740478
Me too. I might have to make a thread to further piss them off, something like "You all are fucking retarded contrarian manchildren go fuck a hooker and you'll feel better. At the very least go ask your mum for a hug because autistic people convinced you that the prequel trilogy was actually good and you hate the new Star Wars. Implying she'd give you one because you smell like piss and are living in the basement and you dropped out of HS and you are 28
>>63737805
The explanation for his love for the Dark Side is the power. When he's praying to Vader's mask, he says the Light is calling for him so he says "Show me again, the power" or something like that. This is simply internal conflict, just as Luke had the Dark Side calling for him in RotJ but stayed Light
>>63737830
Star Wars is now mainstream so they have to adapt to a wider audience, e.g. make it simpler
>>63740590
Star Wars is the third most successful film ever made you moron.
It's always been both simple and mainstream.
>>63737896
Yes they are. The forehead kiss at the end. It's SJW because the girl character is amazingly powerful and can do anything. Plus the "Don't hold my hand!!!" thing on Jakku. At least Luke started off clumsy and needed lots of training and encouragement from Yoda, which was real human development. Rey just turns from uneducated desert scavenger into brilliant strategist pilot Jedi
>>63738154
>Vader was a highly trained Sith who was the strongest force user in the universe.
The Emperor was stronger
>>63740637
>it's unrealistic that a scavenger who has been living under harsh as fuck conditions by herself for a decade would be annoyed by someone grabbing her and leading her around
>it's unrealistic that a scavenger who spent the last decade digging around in old machinery knows anything about machines
>it's unrealistic that a scavenger who spent the last decade living in a planet sized detroit knows how to fight
Jedi thing kind of weird though, I'm sure it'll be explained, it's already heavily hinted that she's some kind of super powerful force anomaly like Anakin, or Lukes daughter.
What exactly is the relationship between light sabers and the Force? Can anyone wield a light saber? Finn wasn't force sensitive was he? I thought sabers were Force-activated.
If sabers and the Force are separate, then
- why does no one use Force abilities during duels?
- how can a saber catch Force Lightning?
>>63739257
Applauding in films is just fucking tragic. Why do morons and Amerifats do this?
>>63740571
>"Show me again, the power"
Thanks, senpai. I had almost forgotten about that quote.
>Kylo has Force Stasis
>it's primarily a light side power
>his eyes/face doesn't change when hekilled his father
Ben is a double agent. He's going to kill Snoke in the third film. Screencap this.
>>63740715
They're not connected, a lightsaber is just a weapon. They're activated by regular people as early as ep5 (Han cuts a tauntaun open with Luke's saber.) The reason it's so popular with force users and not really used at all by normal people is because it's extremely difficult to control, and because you need some serious fucking matrix tier reaction speed to actually deflect blaster bolts, which is the only reason you would ever bring one to a fight over a blaster.
>why does no one use force abilities during duels?
They are, they amplify their physical speed, strength, reaction speed etc etc etc using the force.
>how can a saber catch force lightning?
It looks cool, it has honestly never been explained further.
>>63737421
The mindtrick and forcepull contest is kind of explained by 'She's strong in the force". Just like little Ani
>midichloridians, I ain't gotta explain shit
>>63740715
Have you even seen Empire Strikes Back?
>>63740777
Trips don't lie.
Fuck this is going to be almost as bad as the prequels
>>63735600
>loving something
>4chan
>>63740682
She is obviously the daughter of Luke or Leia.
People are really upset about the mind trick, but really where in Star Wars is it ever implied that it's difficult for a powerful untrained jedi to control a husk of a person with no emotional development in their lives?
>>63740415
None of the stormtroopers in the original trilogy were clones, only the prequels
>>63737611
Is it public knowledge that Vader had returned? He died right after consolidating with Luke. Maybe Luke kept it a secret for whatever reason. I think the propaganda machine the Empire undoubtedly has will have kept it a secret. Of course that leads to the assumption that Luke killed both the Emperor and Vader in one battle, but that's easier to defend than the Empire's main Sith guy being converted to the other side
>>63736519
It was either lando or chewbacca.
If the Republic rose from the old rebellion, and the First Order are a "new" threat, who the fuck are the resistance? Don't they just work for the Republic? Why did they call their army "the Resistance"? Did I miss something?
>>63740766
I really don't get it either, I didn't clap because it's dumb but people for some reason do it for big movies like this even though there's nobody to recieve that applause
it's like it's so ingrained in culture that you applaud after a performance that people do it out of habit at a movie without questioning why. It's almost like a sheep thing (not even trying to sound edgy, usually it's one person who awkwardly starts clapping and after a couple seconds other people join in)
>>63737666
shot beautifully except for the fucking awful diagonal shots becoz dey evil and the horrible helicopter shot that ends the movie
>>63740223
There was one when Po and Finn were hijacking a TIE.
>>63737749
Hold up, haven't Stormtroopers always been clones? It's been a while since I saw the prequels. Is there a difference between Storm and Clone Troopers?
I was already thinking, why isn't Finn the face of Boba Fett like every other clone
>>63740715
In ye olden times (now maybe non-canon), a lightsaber is constructed by a force sensitive because it needs the force to function. A force user imparts his power to a crystal which is at the heart of the hilt. There's also a lens and a power source needed.
>>63740715
>how can a saber catch Force Lightning?
Possibly because of what I stated above.
I just got back
Positives
>Looked and sounded good
>Good mix of old cast and new cast
>Set the stage for the trilogy
>PC cast had more depth than woman and black man
Negatives
>Too much fan service
>Kylo Ren without the mask looks like a little bitch
>Too similar to A New Hope, all the way down to the trench run to blow up the MEGA death star
>Kylo Ren and Rey being separated thanks to ex machina fissure in the ground
8/10, fun movie.
>>63737811
Metal doesn't dyeAnd heavy metal never dies
>>63740820
I think it's because most people view the force as a set of specific video game like powers, rather than the flowing, binding, moldable force it's supposed to be. They're upset because she "learned a power" that she didn't know.
>>63740886
>>63739632
Of course not, that was all in EU which has been completely disavowed.
Despite being not canon, in Jedi Knight he was successfully training new jedi without many problems, accepting that dark side jedi would inevitably come from it instead of touching a droid and fucking off to nowhere because of one fucking person going to the dark side.
>>63737611
>Also, to be honest, the only scene I really liked that was anywhere near close to A New Hope was the final scene with Luke and Rey.
I agree. If you think of iconic moments I'm struggling to think of any scenes that will be talked about decades from now the way so many of New Hope's moments were. Also, why did you like Luke and Rey's meeting scene so much?
>>63740909
>ex machina
It's the Force's will.
>>63738809
But everyone's getting Poe's dick, so that's not an argument
>>63740909
>Kylo Ren without the mask looks like a little bitch
Isn't that the point?
>>63740897
Not since the prequels, mate.
>>63739054
But Force sensitivity is obviously tied to bloodline
This is already true in OT, the "Force is strong in my family" is from RotJ
>>63740909
>Kylo Ren and Rey being separated thanks to ex machina fissure in the ground
Yeah this was dumb, it's not like it couldn't have been written out with no effort, too.
Put the "leave with Kylo Ren and bring him to me" scene earlier and just have the Commander swoop in and pick him up.
>>63739116
To be fair not every movie from the series has had a moment like that. From the OT I can think of a few, from the prequels too, but not one per movie per se
Keep in mind this is the first movie of a new trilogy. This is all setup for the real fun
>>63737785
This is apparently going to be explained in a Marvel comics special issue focusing on C3PO' shenanigans pre-VII.
See comics cover on: http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs
Probably more info about it online or on Marvel
>>63739054
But that still might happen.
>>63739190
>My autism is so bad I have to find a cinema without normies
Star Wars is mainstream now, it's gonna be the biggest movie of all time. Find a cure for your autism or let go of Star Wars. It's no longer a secret nerds' club thing
>>63739257
Here in the Netherlands they applauded and cheered at "We're home" and when the Falcon came into view, when Leia appeared, when Threepio and R2 appeared, and at another point I forgot, and at Luke
>>63739267
Mary Sue is about powers, not about emotional state. Naive and fear go perfectly well next to being the most capable at everything
>>63741073
>It's no longer a secret nerds' club thing
It never was.
>>63740897
No, by the time of Episode IV the clones were old or dead. Stormtroopers since after the first batch have been regular people.
>>63741027
Yeah or have Kylo get knocked out by a falling branch or something and have him roll down a cliff while Rey goes to check on Finn
I've never heard people cheer and applaud at movies here in Finland.
And they started clapping like retards at the opening titles, Falcon, Han and Chewie and the end credits. Shit was almost inbearable.
>>63740963
It comes down to how moments in A New Hope make me feel even to this day. They're so emotionally powerful yet simplistic and subtle. The binary sunset scene, for example, I consider possibly the greatest movie scene I've ever seen and I'm not a huge star wars nut. Everything is literally perfect. Whenever I watch the binary sunset scene you can just feel Luke's longing for something more, he just knows there is something more out there, he's convinced himself there has to be more to his life and he's desperately longing for adventure. It's so easy to empathize with him. The scene tells you so much while being extremely minimalistic.
While the last scene this wasn't nearly as good as that scene it was good off of the same concept. Luke's silence and look really ran it home. There are so many things that look could mean and it's a really nice parallel to the binary sunset scene as well. His sadness could be for so many things, perhaps all at once. Sensing that Han has been killed by Kylo, guilt for the destruction of the jedi order. Guilt for abandoning his child who now stood in front of him, fear of training another student and maybe even fear that his own child may die in the coming events. The reluctance to take his lightsaber back is also very powerful.
Apart from that there were no scenes as good as the ANH ones. There was no Luke using the force to destroy the death star, Han's death didn't have anywhere near the impact of Obi's because it served no greater purpose to better aid the protagonist.
>>63741162
What place did you go to? Did not happen in Oulu.
>>63739632
There is no more canon. But last year, there was hundreds of canon items that read all about the Solo family
>>63741206
Helsinki, Tennispalatsi.
>>63740890
>>63740369
>people already know this
>the movie has been out for 30 hours
So, what kind of retarded name is Snoke?
>>63741230
You can finish the movie in 30 hours, you know?
It's not a difficult concept. lel
>>63740820
What if she's the daughter of Luke AND Leia?
>>63740551
I wonder what /tv/ would have been like when the prequels came out
I was too young and my mother didn't let me watch fantasy movies, but from what I've heard they were pretty hyped as well, until a few months after they were released when it became cool to hate them
>>63740369
>it was quite hard to hear
I dunno, I spotted it straight away. Pretty sneaky to slip it in when there's a fuckton of other noises going on
>>63741073
You are joking right?
>>63740478
>/tv/ is pretty much /pol/ now.
Just because you liked the movie and other people are criticising it for obvious flaws doesn't mean /tv/ is /pol/ now.
It seems to me that you just can't stand critique on your new "favourite" movie
>>63740776
You're welcome, friend. Wanna suck my dick?
>>63740777
>Force Stasis is a Light side power
Which movie claimed that? Don't forget all EU is now non-canon
>>63740780
I meant things like Force Pull and Force Stasis and what not. I never see those during saber duels
>>63740807
>Have you even seen Empire Strikes Back?
I have, but too long ago apparently
What part of that movie do you mean, specifically?
>>63740820
>X is the daughter of [established character]!
Can they stop with theses 'twists'? It's just getting old now
>>63741367
Manipulating objects takes a lot of effort. Almost every force user in the series has to stay completely focused and stationary while doing it. It's not something you pull off while also in a superman swordfight.
>>63740863
I think the first order is the remnants of the empire forces. The galaxy is divided between the republic and the order. Resistance is operating in the the segment controlled by the first order but doesn't have a direct contact with the republic.
>>63741407
If they try to pull a twist out of their ass I will be mad but they haven't done that, it's just plainly obvious.
They need to just have a scene where they acknowledge it, and acknowledge that everyone else has known it since the beginning.
>>63740863
Resistance = Rebellion = Republic
After the empire was destroyed, the rebels took over power again and restored the Republic. But I also don't know why they're called the Resistance when fighting the First Order. Maybe that's because how they taught the Stormtroopers and in their propaganda, to make them seem to be a small hopeless group of guearrillas
>>63741172
I take issue with Luke wondering about what's "out there" and Rey being amazed from being on a new planet.
Do they not know there are other planets out there? That there are hundreds of worlds, all with different species and characteristics? I mean any village there's tens of different alien species and spaceships all around, you, why does it surprise you so much? Don't they have Galaxy TV or something?
>>63740985
Why did young Anakin appear to Luke, alongside Yoda and Ben's ghost, instead of this Anakin? By that logic Ben's ghost should also be youg Obi-Wan
I know it's an edit from Lucas after the release, but how did it even make sense in Lucas' head?
>>63741584
>Anikan Skywalker died and became Darth Vader
>>63741290
Yeah but paying attention to such minor details such as the presence of a Wilhelm scream seems silly. I know Star Wars has a die-hard fan core, but analyzing a movie 24 hours since it's been released is really quick
>>63741331
No I was just not aware of the popularity of Star Wars
I've never heard my normie friends talk about it, and not even all my nerd friends have seen it
I guess it's just the Dutch
>>63741338
He's probably talking about the adversity people have against the black guy, and people dropping the n-word
>>63741612
Did he really die though? Isn't that just poetic freedom?
>The man you knew is dead, before you stands the all new me!
>>63741682
He's a Nigger though.Hopefully he won't fuck muh precious marry sue
>>63741716
No one really fucks in the movies tho
Han and Leia did, off screen between movies
Anakin and Amidala did, off screen between movies
Don't forget, it's a children's movie
>>63741767
I'm afraid of the future and what the following movies hold for us, anon ;_;
>>63741716
>look mom I did a racist
>>63741561
It's not so much that Luke doesn't know what's out there. It's that he feels like he's forever stuck on this shithole planet yet he longs for so much more.
Rey is a bit like what you say though.
What planets were blown you? Kinda hoping it was all prequel planets
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