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What went wrong?


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What went wrong?
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No Sheev
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the worst of the leaks ended up being true
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Nothing at all
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>>63720353
which is?
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>>63720385
Han dies
The entire film is just a reboot of ANH
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>>63720306
REDDITORS DOUBTED THE LEAKS!!
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>63720385
>han dying
>mary sue characters
>interracial mixing
>literal re-hash of episode 4
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Disney, but more specifically they chose a meme director to headline the new saga, and now the two sequels will suffer

Rogue One will be good and I guarantee everyone agrees it's better than VII not to be contrarian, but because it's true
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>>63720306
>Luke has no lines and only 10 seconds of screen-time.
>Unnecessary fan service.
>Rehashing of ANH.
>Generally playing it safely.

I want something original like trade disputes
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>>63720431
>interracial mixing

i see nothing wrong with that
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>>63720469
it begins
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>>63720306

Well you end up cheering for the villain on this movie since the good guys are really bland, but i don't know that's a bad thing
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everything
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>>63720306
it was genuinely good so obviously something went wrong from /tv/'s point of view
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If you liked JJ's adaption of Star Trek you will like this.
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>>63720469
good goy
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>Han is Obi-wan
>Luke is Yoda

Just fuck my shit up
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>>63720306
JJ is a talentless hack
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>>63720548
Women liked JJ's Star Trek but those movies have pretty boys on a not-so-ambiguously gay relationship while TFA has Boyega for 90% of the screentime and the handsome guy, Oscar Isaac, is barely there.
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>>63720306
>RT 94%, average 8.2/10
>Metacritic: 81/100
Absolutely nothing
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>>63720524
/thread
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>>63720306
Is that another fucking death star? That makes 3 right?
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>>63720659

Holy shit, it really IS like rehash of A New Hope. Did they even fucking try?
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It's unironically good and you will all enjoy it. It's also nice to go and see a Star Wars movie in the cinema that isn't shit, not that any of you on this board are old enough to remember the prequels coming out
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Too much rehashing. Third death star is a retarded idea.

REGARDLESS. It was good, better than I expected (didn't expect much though)

The actors saved it. All the new guys were likeable and it set things up nicely for even more cash cow sequels.
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>>63720699
>Being happy just to get a B- sequel to your favorite movies ever.
Those prequels really fucked you up, huh?
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>People still blaming JJ for this
>Not realizing all the strings in relation to the story and characters are being pulled by the higher up jews at Disney
$4 billion dollarinos, lads. $4 billion
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>>63720740
>It's another deathstar!
>No, its worse.

Yes, it is worse JJ/Lawrence
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>>63720431
>Tfw almost bought tickets
Thank God I didn't
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>>63720845
>your favorite movies ever
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>>63720836

#1 had a weak point that was destroyed by magic space wizardry from a supposedly extinct cult.

#2 was never completed.

Third time's the charm.
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>What went wrong?

Remember all that talk about how they were using practical effects?
Lies.
All those cool aliens puppets and costumes?
Only there for background.
All those real sets?
Tiny little things surrounded by CGI?
The stunts?
CG-fucking-I!
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>2 hours of pointless violence with literally zero character development

Yep it's a JJ Abrams' flick
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>>63720306
facsimile was too glib desu
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>>63720991
CG nowadays is so much better than it was in the prequel times so I don't really even care if they lied. It's the best looking SW movie, visually.
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>>63720991
Jakku had loads of practical effects. The big droids, the weird alien in the desert, the weird alien with red eyes at night, the pigsauras thing. The little bird pecking. All the Aliums on Jakku.

The first act was good, second act starts out well but falls apart at the midpoint and the third act was rushed. The finale itself was underwhelming.
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>>63720306

This is JUST the type of rehash I was expecting, it's nothing but a glib facsimile.

If Star Wars was all I had access to as a child in terms of sci-fi I probably would become one of those crazy fanboys, but thankfully I had access to anime from very early on in my youth years that my mental balance is very stable.

Seriously, if you have watched Akira, you'd realize just how sophisticated anime is and it blows away anything Star Wars would have to offer.

A lot of people mention Ghost In The Shell, which has just enough of sexuality in the mix to draw in the western audience I suppose but I must say that Ghost In The Shell is not even in my top 10 anime, not even close, that's just how deep the world of anime is.

Some anime is so disturbingly mature like Fractale that I wish it would challenge the system and submit it as a Drama category in the Oscars just to bitchslap the snotty Academy.

It's not just the level of maturity and sophistication anime has, it's also quite original, entertaining, and visually fantastic. I would regard anime as the highest form of cinema art-form.

But hey, me preaching about anime won't do you any good, you gotta go out and see it for yourself just how much you are missing.

The recent one I would recommend to check out is Sword Art Online which is light and easy to get into anime for the first time yet appreciate it as much, but if you want the heavy stuff right off the line check out Guilty Crown in which the plot is so complex and twisted that you'll need extra oxygen pumped into your brain in order to comprehend everything, and if you want amazing visuals and a gripping drama that also has awesome mecha battles Aldnoah.Zero is the shit.

Seriously, if you know anime like I do, Star Wars looks like it's something for little kids.
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>>63721260
Is this pasta?
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>>63720659
Is this true?
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>>63721260
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>63721361

Pretty much
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>>63720306
The lack of Sheev. No other sw villain can replace him.
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>>63721260
I-is this copy pasta

no shit though sherlock star wars is for kids through and through, never pretended to be anything more
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>>63721260
>pretending that anime is good
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>>63721348
Yes. Started yesterday or the day before.
It was glorious.
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>>63721413
great airi reaction face lol
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>>63721260
hahaha oh man what the fuck
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>>63721260
I'd love to be proven wrong and get a classic Star Wars film. But is there a shred of evidence to suggest it will be a classic?

The trailer? There were some neat shots, but lots of shitty films had exciting trailers. Phantom Menace immediately springs to mind.

The writers? JJ has never written a truly great script. I'd argue the closest he came was the breddy gud script for "Regarding Henry", but that was flukey and happened decades ago.

Kasdan wrote two classic films, Empire and Raiders, but he's been in deep freeze (or a Big Chill, as it were) for decades. The last project he worked on was a Diane Keaton weepy flop called "Darling Companion".

The director? Again, JJ has done nothing new, inventive, or enduring in his career. His films have a fun pace and lots of kinetic energy, but they're merely above average for an action director. He doesn't seem to have the genius eye of Spielberg or the imagination of young Lucas.

All in all, you're basing your prediction on nothing more than hope. Which is okay I guess, because I'm hoping too... But I don't expect anything other than a nostalgic, fast-paced romp through the Star Wars universe.

If you're hoping for the magic discovery of A New Hope or the spiritual depth of Empire, I'm afraid you're likely to be disappointed.

Just go in hoping for fun, which is what I'm hoping we get after the dreary death march that was the prequel era.
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>>63720548

I hated JJ-Trek, but loved JJ-Wars.
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>>63721623
not really, it's stupid shit obviously made by some butthurt Star Wars fangay
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>>63720431
>interracial mixing
>BLACK GUY LITERALLY FRIENDZONED
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>>63721779

Lol you got me.

The pasta to counter the pasta
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They should have adapted this.
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>>63720306

>lazy writing
>another death star clone
>Rey too fucking awful to act for fuck's sake I just want to punch her whenever she's on screen.
>Boyega's fine though I found him the most likeable of all the 3 leads
>Han Solo looks like he's about to die. I can see his sigh of relief when Kylo stabbed him lol
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>>63721965
I don't think Warner would let Disney use Swamp Thing, anon.
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>>63721965

that's not Dark Empire anon
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>>63720306
Niggers
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>>63721866
Potato potáto.
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>>63722059
Not enough bling
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I was expecting the First Order to be cool but Snoke is underwhelming, Hux is boring and Phasma gets two lines before getting thrown into trash. Kylo is kinda cool even if edgy
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>another death star
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>>63721260
Hello Reddit!
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>>63722202

you just know
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>>63720431
Rey will come out as a lesbian in the next episode.
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>>63722326
An interspecies lesbian I bet
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>>63722380
>Chewie was transgender the whole time and they're lovers.
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>>63722406
A10 V10 thanks JJ
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>>63722433

JJ quit brah, Josh Trank will save us
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>>63721260
star wars is all shit. Yes many anime shows are better. But i still think you are a massive faggot.
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>>63720306
This is JUST the type of rehash I was expecting, it's nothing but a glib facsimile.

If Star Wars was all I had access to as a child in terms of sci-fi I probably would become one of those crazy fanboys, but thankfully I had access to anime from very early on in my youth years that my mental balance is very stable.

Seriously, if you have watched Akira, you'd realize just how sophisticated anime is and it blows away anything Star Wars would have to offer.

A lot of people mention Ghost In The Shell, which has just enough of sexuality in the mix to draw in the western audience I suppose but I must say that Ghost In The Shell is not even in my top 10 anime, not even close, that's just how deep the world of anime is.

Some anime is so disturbingly mature like Fractale that I wish it would challenge the system and submit it as a Drama category in the Oscars just to bitchslap the snotty Academy.

It's not just the level of maturity and sophistication anime has, it's also quite original, entertaining, and visually fantastic. I would regard anime as the highest form of cinema art-form.

But hey, me preaching about anime won't do you any good, you gotta go out and see it for yourself just how much you are missing.

The recent one I would recommend to check out is Sword Art Online which is light and easy to get into anime for the first time yet appreciate it as much, but if you want the heavy stuff right off the line check out Guilty Crown in which the plot is so complex and twisted that you'll need extra oxygen pumped into your brain in order to comprehend everything, and if you want amazing visuals and a gripping drama that also has awesome mecha battles Aldnoah.Zero is the shit.

Seriously, if you know anime like I do, Star Wars looks like it's something for little kids.
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>>63722517
10/10
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Imagine if the new trilogy was directed by Ridley Scott

Christian Bale and Russell Crowe swinging laser swords everywhere would have been amazing.
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>>63722487
>hey I don't know that guy let's see what he's done
>google his name
>pic related

Good think the helium tank arrives in 3 days, I won't have to see this
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can we finally agree it's shit
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The movie is fucking SHIT. Why is the Dark Side so weak that women with insufficient training are capable of taking down Sith lords?

Dark side is just much more powerful
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>>63722597

not really brah, people just had too high of an expectation since its STAR WARS, however its pretty mediocre and lazy writing plus Rey is fucking awful. 5/10
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>>63720385
It is a talentlessly executed complete and utter rehash of ANH.

I wasn't even this pissed off over the prequels, as shit as they were Lucas at least had enough vision to try branching out. As shit as he was at writing characters, he wrote a distinctly different chapter of the monomythic story arc.

The biggest leap JJ made with this film was race swapping one character and gender swapping another. It's like if Tumblr tried to write a new star wars movie.
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Rey. I don't like the character arc already, she's like Luke except she doesn't seem to have to work for anything like he did.

Maybe a better actress could make me like the character more but Daisy is just flat.

Now Poe Dameron, that's a motherfucker I can get behind.
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>>63722406
How would you even know?
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>>63722666
You can't even pass school with a 50%.
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>>63722656

Feminists are destroying not only america, but Sith Lords as well, i guess.
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>>63720431
>mary sue characters

I wanted to like Rey but she really was a complete Mary Sue. Most of my complaints about the story centre around her.
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>>63722656
where did they say he was a sith, let alone a lord
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>>63722589
Don't worry. He was booted a while back when the rumors started flowing in how shit Fantastic Four is going to be, and how he constantly appeared drunk on set.
The actual director (and writer) will be Rian Johnson. (The guy who did Looper)
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>>63722584
It's what star wars needed. Some fucking manliness.
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>>63722701
>Someone calls him a walking rug
>Chewie does the "OH NO YOU DI'IN'T!" motion and grows something
>Rey translates: "You better back off, 'cause my bae here is one fierce bitch, who will fuck your shit up. She won't take this trash talk from ain't no one who ain't one of her sistah girls."
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>black guy following his dick
>third deathstar gets destroyed killing millions of stormtroopers and their families
>Luke becomes Kreia from KOTR2
>no limb mutilation
>dumb looking lightsaber worthless is battle
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>>63722772

>the guy who did looper

JFC NO!
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>>63721442
>they literally had a pre-written story where sheev returns and fucks up the galaxy bigtime
>NOPE, I JJ ABRAMS, CAN MAKE BETTER STAR WARS!
>just remakes ANH
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>>63722772
Thanks the force
Is he a SJW cu.ck though?
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>Directed by a jewish director who basically said he hates white people
>Expecting anything other than a shitty leftist political agenda shoved down your throat

Anyone who paid more than $0 for this shitfest deserves all the ridicule they will get in the coming months.
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>>63722883
Why the fuck Jews always ruin everything
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>>63722380
One can only hope
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>>63722857
Eh. Still slightly better than Trank.

>>63722877
No idea. The only movie I saw from him was a Bruce Willis flick, and the only female character I remember is the mother of the anti-christ who Bruce Willis' young version protects from- Uhm.
Yeah, not that I know. I don't really pay attention to hollywood politics that much.

Seems like an okay director to me, from the one movie I watched.
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>>63720385
At least the prequels were original

This is literally episode 4
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>>63722928
They're motivated only by profit and brainwashing whitey. They don't actually care about art.
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>>63721965
>Not posting the Thrawn Trilogy
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>>63720341

^this
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>>63721361
Yep. I'm actually laffin at how similar the core of the plot is,
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>What went wrong?

Rey, Finn, just a rehash of A New Hope, Disney spent all that time hyping up Luke only for him to show up in the last 10 seconds ofmthe movie, Hann dies like a bitch, the acting, the pacing, kylo renn falling flat despite the marketing hype.
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>>63722992
>wanting Abrams to touch the EU
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>>63722584
>>63722819

I used to imagine that one day they would get around to making the sequels, Luke would have rebuilt the Jedi Order, and Mel Gibson would play a master on the new council. Christian Bale would have made an excellent villain from the Imperial Remnant, maybe even a great Thrawn.

Instead we get Star Wars: The Cuck Awakens

T-thanks jews
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I thought it was really good.
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>>63723036
That is a valid point. At least thought it wouldn't have been a rehash of 4.
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>>63722992
I'm not sure Disney owns the movie rights to the Thrawn trilogy.
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>>63722979

Not to mention they don't have a creative bone in their body. Wherever you look, their product is cheap wordplay and plagiarism, whether in art, science, law, etc.
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>>63723138
Why wouldn't they?
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Nerds were given complete control, t b h
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>>63720699
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>>63723138
Lucas would have owned the IP rights to it and now the Disney owns all that, they would have.
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>>63720306
I loved it. fixed all the wrongs of the prequels.

don't get how people don't like it- but you're in the minority.
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>>63723253
Go back to /r/pcmasterrace
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Can someone give me a 5 line summary of the movie so I don't have to waste time watching this jewish piece of shit? I just want to be an informed shitposter on /tv/.
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>>63720306

boring protagonists and rehashed plot from A New Hope
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>>63720306

Almost everything.
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>>63720524
/thread
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What annoys me to no end is the strategic nostalgia game Jew Jew is playing. Use up Han and Leia mostly for this movie because all the idiot fans remember them and give Luke 5 seconds because you can use his nostalgia factor to carry the 2nd movie and whoever is left shows up in part 3 to carry it home. Literally no attempt to make a stand alone movie that is carried on its own two feet.
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>>63723315
go back to /pol/ you racist pos
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>>63723078
It was good. These other fags just watched half the movie through trailers and were disappointed when they only got to see half a movie.

Score was dope, effects were great, pacing was on point. Seeing the old crew interact with the new kids was well done. They didn't go fuckin prequels with the force: it was serious and suspensful.
JJ Abrams did a great job, despite you jew haters out there.

Fuck your opinions, mine is better.
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>>63720500

The villain is an edgy angsty manchild that tantrums all the time.
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>>63723253
That only applies to video games.
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>>63721361
why are you reading spoilers without seeing the movie first

you're obviously going to like it less if you know shit about it

you shouldn't even watch trailers, let alone read the whole fucking plot
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>>63723358
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>>63723315
I'll give you a 5 word summary.

It's a New Hope 2.
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>>63723364
The opinion of someone that knows nothing about cinema outside of what his favorite youtube reviewer tells him everyone
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JJ Abrams:
>I'll try directing, that's a good trick!
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>>63723167
>>63723281
Contractually, you can have the book rights owned by one company and the movie rights owned by another.
And there's the matter of paying residuals.
It's easier to make new shit up that's fully owned by Disney.
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>>63721442
Depends, I have no idea who Snope is and I've seen the movie.
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>>63721260
This is a good post.
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>>63720385
J.J. Abraham's new adaptation of the Star Wars franchise was nothing but a glib facsimile of its predecessor films
~ Rog.
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>>63723364
For the first 2/3rds I thought the movie was fucking great. By the end that had dropped to just being good. They built up the audience to hate Kylo then gave us the satisfaction of seeing him defeated too quickly. It seemed pointless.

My only other complaints are Rey's character on a whole being flat and seemingly too powerful (although this will get cleared up in the next movie I imagine), and the pacing in general. So much happened in the first 30 minutes and none of it had room to breathe. They showed us so little of the space battle with Poe, as well.

But overall it is a good movie despite a few problems. I'm just disappointed because with a bit more work it could have been a great movie.
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>>63723426
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>>63720659
Wow, this is so of. Have you even seen the movie?
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>>63720687
I'm not some /pol/ race-mixing fanatic, but Boyega really is so ugly (to a whitey) it's distracting.
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>tfw more excited about a Plinkett review tearing apart the film than I am about seeing the actual film
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>>63723364
this.

it was a great movie, as good as the originals. people just like the feeling of saying something good sucked.

it was funny, well written, well acted, extremely well directed and the effects were some of the greatest mix of piratical/cgi i've seen in a long time.
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post your fucking face when it's a LITERAL REHASH OF THE FIRST MOVIE

>MFW
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>>63723068
>bale as thrawn
>gibson as gillad pellaeon

i need this
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>>63720548
JJ Trek was way better. At least that was a competent, entertaining, stand-alone popcorn flick.
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The kiss scene between Rey and Finn was cute as fuck.
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>>63723501
*practical

dammit
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>>63723315
5 words:

It is a glib facsimile
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>>63723515
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>>63723393
>Ha ha I only listen to /tv/ my tastes are too superior, 4U
>/tv/ official patrician list:
>Good Burger
>The Dark Knight trilogy
>Hard Candy
>Drive
>Citizen Kane
>Babe in the city
>Eraser Head

>Le pagtrician face :DDDD

Have in mind your retarded post has nothing to do with the movie, and are blind, meme, assumptions. You only forgot to tell him to go back to reddit.
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>>63723500
I don't think RLM has the balls to do this though
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>>63720740
it's like poetry, it rhymes.

'the cat / sat on a mat / it was a cat / on a mat'
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>>63723489
Just came backfrom it, it's the same movie with worse characters
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>>63723539
I like the scene where they fuck and Poe watches from the windows as Finn the bull penetrates Rey's tight anus.

Would kill whitey / 10
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>>63723561
If you want to play it this way then lets do it mate

What are your top 10 films of all time
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>>63723515
yep that is exactly my face after I saw the phantom meance
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>>63723563
They're whole shtick is to tear the shit out of movies. Why would they suddenly decide to not review TFA? Do they think they'd lose viewers who came there for an honest review? They're only viewers are people who want to see Plinkett tear into movies
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What are the chances of an ISIS attack on a US Star Wars premier? Seems highly likely for amerifats.
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I fucking loved the film. Even though it's got some rehashing I thought it was fantastic on its own and sets up the rest of the series perfectly. Definitely lived up to the hype in my opinion. Everyone in the theatre was live as fuck throughout the entire film
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>>63723664
>film
Star Wars was the artistic genocide of mainstream film. You'd absolutely need to be brainwashed /v/ child to have any fondness for any of this toy commercial series. If you have an affinity for the millenium falcon then you may as well have an affinity for corporate logos.
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>>63723478
>They built up the audience to hate Kylo then gave us the satisfaction of seeing him defeated too quickly. It seemed pointless.

This. What in the fuck? Luke had to train his ass off before he could fight Vader and he still got his fucking hand cut off. This cunt picks up a lightsabre for the first time and is able to defeat him instantly within five minutes? Why the fuck should she (or the audience) fear him?
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>>63723650
I think the chances for a random mass shooter dressed as darth maul are higher
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>>63723664
Shut the fuck up you child
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>>63723720
>Luke had to train his ass off before he could fight Vader and he still got his fucking hand cut off
Not to mention that Vader was a crippled old man who ran out of breath in five minutes. Kylo is in his physical prime and he should have kicked Rey's ass up and down the block - let alone Mace Dindu who, as far as I know, is just a regular guy.
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>>63723650
>only trips to become allah

really nigger
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>>63723706
>>63723735

Reading through Mad Max threads took some of the shine off that film but reading through these threads does nothing to curb my excitement. Stay mad, cunts.
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>>63723650
That would be a bit much now, wouldn't it?
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Well well well, miss me yet?
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>>63723720
If the planet started to fall apart before Rey went super saiyan with her 'The force! I remember that thing' bullshit, I would have been fine with it. She should have had a good showing, but her finally catching up to Kylo should be the carrot on the stick.
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>>63720991
Princess Leia's faced used plastic modelling.
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>>63723807
You sound like cancer you know that?

>THE MOVIE WAS FUCKING AWESOME
>FUCKING GREAT PLOT
>FUCKING TERRIFIC EVERYTHING
>FUCKING
>FUCKING

Using fuck to artificially make your post carry weight is just as bad as shit heads who use the word literally in terms of abusing the English language.
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>>63723780
I felt like he was just toying with Finn. I expected him to get beaten, her to pick up the sabre that had been calling to her when some deus ex machina intervened so that their battle is postponed and built up and Finn's brave attempts to stand up to an opponent way out of his league to protect his injured friend, Rey has more impact.
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>>63723501
"well written"
You mean the dialogue? The story was ANH, nobody can deny that.
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>HEY GUISE, THE EXPANDED UNIVERSE IS NO LONGER CANON, LOL, SUCK IT UP, CREATIVE LIBERTY, BLA BLA BLA, BLANK SLATE, BLA BLA BLA

>JUST KIDDING, WE'LL JUST REHASH THE EXPANDED UNIVERSE SHIT
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So there IS racemixing? To what extent? I heard there is only some hints Finn likes rey but now it sounds like she goes to the IBG
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>>63723383
>implying it was worth watching the jurassic park reboot
>implying it was worth watching the terminator reboot
>implying i'm going to watch this shit too
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>>63723478
If this wasn't 4chan, we could have a civil discussion about this, and it'd be awesome.
Kylo did lose way too quickly, and the first thirty minutes were effectively crammed to the point that "none of it had room to breathe".
But yeah, it wasn't perfect. Small things could've been done, true. Not all of it was beleivable (Phasma [AKA Brienne of Tarth] just cooperating).
I'd like to think that they did go full jew and did anticipate a huge viewing, and compressing the first part, giving just the essentials, and letting it build on the more "important" (if I can call it that). Glad the movie didn't last three and a half hours.
I feel they balanced out nostalgia pretty well. They had enough, and not too much. The end in my opinion was just perfect. It's a three part series, and like Darth Vader announcing his true relation to Luke, it's supposed to get you talking, hyped for the next movie. If it was a standalone, i'd be happy with rey just heading off into the sunset, Spaghetti Western style.

Thanks for making type this out. Nice getting down.
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>>63720431

I want to say this is shitposting, but Rey really was a fucking retarded Mary Sue feminist fantasy cliche. To the point where it makes the character kind of boring and without conflict.

Also the Soft Reboot of A New Hope is entirely accurate.

Still...better than the prequels...so there's that
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>>63723036
the only EU that JJ should make films for...is the European Union!
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>>63723913
Rey kisses him on the forehead while he's unconscious / comatose and calls him "friend".

That's all.
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>>63723902
I wouldn't have cared if they actually rehashed EU but they rehashed ANH! It wouldn't have mattered if they used same elements here and there but it's almost the exact same plot!
Fucking kek!
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How long until I can download it illegally?
Wanna watch but I don't want to give money to the jews, or leave my house
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>>63723594
Ooh, you only watch youtube.
fight me over this internet, I bet my opinions are superior to yours!!
I once watched two whole movies back to back!
I filmed my reactions and put it on my facebook wall. Six likes mind you!!


>tl;dr; "my top 10 vs your top 10", man this isn't fuckin middle school. Maybe interacting with people older than 12 might help.
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>>63723928
What feminist attitudes did he take during the movie? I don't remember any.
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>>63720556
Die conservatard bitch!
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>>63723913
>>63723994
Pretty sure Boyega was chemistry testing with some other actresses for VIII so I think he's getting friendzoned by Rey senpai
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>>63723999

they rehashed both the expanded universe AND ANH

Rey is just a shittier Jaina

Kylo is just a shittier Anakin
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>>63720659
Wait, where in the movie is it implied that Ren is Rey's cousin?
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>>63723834
I do. George come back. I love your extreme, bold and stylistic movie making. You wanted to experiment but everyone spat on your face.
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>>63723861

Plot wasn't great but the film was regardless.
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not much

lack of space battles and mary sue mc
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>>63724092
When she's crying about the family leaving her on Jakku isn't that Kylo who tells her, "Quiet girl."
?
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>>63724038
STOP GRABBING MY HAND

thought that was pretty funny desu
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Why did Snoke look so bad
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>>63724147
Over reliance on CGI.
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>>63724147
At least he wasn't actually a giant man on a big chair. I was so relieved when we saw it was a hologram
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>>63724147
literally a cartoon
he even sounds like Dr Claw or some cartoon villain from the 80's. Sheev's hologram in Empire (both versions) alone trump this stupid faggot's entire screentime already
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>>63723645
RLM liked Abrams Trek movies. They have objectively terrible taste.
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>mfw Plinkett reviews A New Hope, but calls it The Force Awakens and uses all of the AFA character names
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Everything.
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>>63720306
KEK KEK KEK KEKOLD KEKITY KEK KEK
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>>63724205
>I was so relieved when we saw it was a hologram

That makes two of us,
>>
In case you didn't notice:

There was a nigger in the movie who stole a white man's jacket
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test senpai baka desu
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>>63724219
they liked the first one (it's good, it's just not a Trek movie) but tore the second one into tiny pieces - they hated it.
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>>63720306
The torrent never released. That's where it all went wrong.
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>>63724271
That scene with Poe telling him to keep it was good though.

Poe and Finn bromance was one of the best parts of the film desu
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>>63724284
Only cuck is allowed now

Coincids perfectly with the jew jew masterpiece of cuckoldry
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>>63723928

I lean towards /pol/-tier ideology but I thought Rey was the only somewhat likable character in this movie. She didn't flip her shit, she was competent and she didn't do anything extremely stupid. I didn't even think about feminism while watching the movie, to me her being female didn't mean anything. Except for that scene where she overpowers Kylo in the saber clash, what the fuck is that? What kind of a weakling gets overpowered by a woman and emasculated like that?
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>>63724271
>Oscar Isaac
>White
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>>63720306
Everything.
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It really wasn't that bad.
Just relies on ANH to much, but great start for the new trilogy.
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Rate the movie from 1 to 10
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Its star wars for the capeshit generation
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>>63724205
Actually I was a bit disappointed.

Giant man on a giant fucking chair. That would have been something we haven't seen before in SW.

Now he's just Palpatine II big fucking whoop
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>>63724354
7.5
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>>63724354
7.5
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>>63724337
its a great start to a trilogy because its literally a new hope and empire strikes back smushed together
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>>63724323
He got shot by Chewie so he kept punching his wound to stop the bleeding or something.
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>>63720306

The fact that it was good and /tv/ had nothing to meme about
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>>63720431
>>interracial mixing
Jesus fuck, you will now use this word for friendship too?
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>>63720306
A buncha contrarian neckbeards got cucked by a space negro and the critics liked it.
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>>63724354
5, prequel tier

But ANH was pretty bat too, and the two next movies were great, so I can only expect that the next ones will be much better
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>>63724381
I think he was trying to get some feeling back in that side.
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>>63724385

>glib facsimile

but the first piping hot fresh new memes are already rolling in, f a m
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>>63722724
>>63720385
>Mary Sue
People keep using this word, but this is clearly not what she is. Everything she has done she has gained ans struggled for. She is naturally gifted with the force but still has everything to learn, I kind of like this kind of character, but now as as soon as a character is a bit too competent, they get called Mary sue. Yet, not a single does her competency hurt the story.
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>>63720306
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>>63724397
>>63724406
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>>63724331

>Oscar Isaac

FUCK!

I just realized who he is!
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>>63724460
Mary Sue would imply JJ sees himself as a woman.
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someone post a synopsis
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>>63724406
glib facsimile

God knows I need it.
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>>63724460
>fights off thugs
>jumpstarts falcon
>beats up kylo

shes good at everything in the movie, bitch has no flaws
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>Lucas hated it as a child to watch good guys die
>Has to helplessly watch Han Solo get brutally fucking murdered by an edgelord fan fiction character before his very eyes
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>>63724523
IN A WORLD
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>>63723333
HOLY QUADS OF TRUTH
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>>63724523
Honestly, just read the google drive leaks that came out months ago. They're extremely accurate save for a few points at the very end.
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>>63724460
>She is naturally gifted with the force but still has everything to learn, I kind of like this kind of character, but now as as soon as a character is a bit too competent, they get called Mary sue.

She's the skilled pilot, skilled mechanic and skilled Jedi. She has to struggle for it? The only sense we get of her struggle is a line from Kylo about her being lonely (he's had to read her mind) and a flashback scene. Nothing of her struggles is shown through her action. She hasn't had to learn anything with the force. She just gets it immediately. She doesn't lose anyone close to her the way Luke did and she masters powers Luke didn't even come close to handling within five minutes. With no guidance from anyone. It's just like she realized she could do it out of nowhere. She's a shit character because her arc is weak and she hasn't had to do shit for her powers and skills. It's just handed to her,
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>>63724559

IT COMES FULL CIRCLE

P O T T E R Y
O
T
T
E
R
Y
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>>63720556
>>63720497
please take your racism back to the early 1900's this is intellectual grownup time
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>>63724622
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>>63724406
glib facsimile
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>>63724655
It's almost 2016 niggers.

Stop with the racism.
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>>63721260
We need to make this a meme guys
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>>63724323
>What kind of a weakling gets overpowered by a woman and emasculated like that?
th kind who has gotten shot by a powerful crossbow beforehand and had to deal with an other Jedi, just before.
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>>63720306
Everything. Literally just a rehash of A New Hope.
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>>63724734
>th kind who has gotten shot by a powerful crossbow beforehand and had to deal with an other Jedi, just before.

What other jedi did he have to deal with?
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>>63724622
Fuck off nigger/nigger lover
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>>63724655

IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR
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So which one was more ignoble, disrespectful and insulting?
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>>63720306
jews are in control of it now
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>>63724852
the second one. Kirk dying was actually pretty well executed although it was always going to be a downer.
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>>63720909
Except he did the same shit with Star Trek. When he's involved in a prexisting franchise he's incapable of writing anything that isn't a soulless rehash.
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>>63720306
Am I the only one who doesn't give a fuck about star wars?

I mean, I saw the original films when I was kid, but I didn't like them.

I never understood why people praised this series so fucking much.

Is it a meme to like star wars? I don't see what the big deal is.

Of course I won't even pirate the movie when it comes out at torrents.
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>>63724852
Kirk. He died fighting fucking Malcolm McDowell to stop him from blowing up some star so he could go back to the Nexus, even though Kirk shouldn't have given a fuck.

Han was trying to save his son.
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>>63722584
Its not fair man, not fair.
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>>63724611
>She's the skilled pilot, skilled mechanic and skilled Jedi.
She has grown up among ship. And Yes, the Force explain natural talent.
>She has to struggle for it?
She has to struggle when she actually start to need to actively use the force instead of being led by it.
> She hasn't had to learn anything with the force.
She was learning while being confronted by Solo Jr.
Before we called those kind of character Bad-ass, now we call them Mary Sue.
>She doesn't lose anyone close to her the way Luke did
Dude, She literally knew Han Solo basically just as long as Luke knew Ben Kenobi when he was killed. You are not being objective there.
>With no guidance from anyone.
All the Guidance Luke has was a few hours of training from Kenobi.
>She's a shit character because her arc is weak and she hasn't had to do shit for her powers and skills.
She had to survive her whole life learning how scrap and spaceship worked. Her knowledge in mechanic come directly form that as for piloting: well Luke didn't even get to go to the Academy. She was handed a ship by the resistance and voilà a skilled pilot.

If the force can explain it for Luke, it can explain it for her.

Almost none of what you are saying is valid. there is nothing wrong with her character. She is just a female badass. That's it.
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>>63724787
Finn.

Well, potential Jedi. but Solo Jr. had to face tow people with the power of the force while being severely wounded before being vanquished.
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>>63720306

It plays more like fan fiction. It feels like a sci-fi movie with Star Wars parts. You can even see it on that poster.
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>>63724852
One of these men died trying to save his son, while at the same time setting up bombs that would help his allies and wife survive. The other man was on a bridge that collapsed... why dont you tell us
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>>63725084
I was thinking Guardians of the Galaxy. Sci-fi action comedy following Disney's Marvel vein.
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>>63720836
This
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>>63720306
Ren kills his son solo
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>>63724969

> She is just a female badass

but she isn't
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>>63724117
No, it was that Alien that sold her rations for scrap
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>>63724734
>th kind who has gotten shot by a powerful crossbow beforehand and had to deal with an stormtrooper with lightsaber, just before
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>>63724266
Three
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>>63724969
I think the problem people are having is that she seems to learn it all so quickly. She goes from 0 to 100 really quick.

She was probably at Luke's academy as a kid which explains some of the force powers. But in the vision she looked really quite young when she got left on Jakku, which then raises more questions about why she is so skilled with a saber and capable of mind tricks.
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>>63725228
>a stormtrooper with lightsaber

Should have been eviscerated in one stroke
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>>63724556
you forgot that she can some how understand droid talk
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>>63724611
>she hasn't had to do shit for her powers and skills. It's just handed to her

She's a woman, what did you expect?
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>>63724969
If she's a skilled pilot, why didn't she just fly out of Tatooine instead of standing around, being dirt poor, with a big strunk smile on her smile?
>>
Lawrence Kasdan
J. J. Abrams
Michael Arndt
>>
I listed some of my problems with the movie here
>>63725111
I wasn't expecting it would be less good than the 1st Star Trek reboot.
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>>63722246
You do realise that Reddit is frothing over Star Wars, right?
>>
So what's this about movies or series between 8 and 9?
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>>63720306
Fuck y'all haters, most people think this was a good movie. Deal with it. Stop being contrarians.
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>>63724969
>She has grown up among ship.
When did she have the opportunity to pilot them?

>She has to struggle when she actually start to need to actively use the force instead of being led by it.
Doesn't make sense.
>She was learning while being confronted by Solo Jr.
How?
>Before we called those kind of character Bad-ass, now we call them Mary Sue.
No.
>Dude, She literally knew Han Solo basically just as long as Luke knew Ben Kenobi when he was killed. You are not being objective there.
I was referring to his aunt and uncle, faggot.
>All the Guidance Luke has was a few hours of training from Kenobi.
Yeah, but he doesn't go racing across to fight Vader with a lightsaber. He trains with Yoda before he even tries to attempt that.
>She had to survive her whole life learning how scrap and spaceship worked. Her knowledge in mechanic come directly form that as for piloting: well Luke didn't even get to go to the Academy. She was handed a ship by the resistance and voilà a skilled pilot.
It seems like the first time she's even flown is when she pilots the Millenium Falcon 9which for some reason is just parked where anybody could steal it)

>Almost none of what you are saying is valid. there is nothing wrong with her character. She is just a female badass. That's it.

Is that move you're doing called Force Apologist?
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>>63721260
Dear lord, dem pasta.
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>>63726004
>Stop hating what I like!
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>>63724655
the current year.
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>>63720306
Everything
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>>63725750
like how luke understood R2's beep boops?
your expectations are so up your ass they came out of your mouth.
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>>63723315

shallow pandering jewish propaganda trash
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>>63724460
No you fucking retard, Mary Sue means she has no character flaw which she and Boyega both don't have.
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>>63720306
Thinking practical effects is a substitute for a good story.
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>>63726246
>and Boyega both don't have.

Finn is at least made to be vulnerable occasionally and doesn't succeed at absolutely everything he does.
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>>63726004
>that restraint that elevates TFA over the prequels.
Abrams apprehension of coloring outside the lines is what makes TFA a glib facsimile.
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>>63720306
copypasta screenplay
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>>63723539
Thots be on dat nigga dik like mmm fuk me dat shit so gud pham 100 100 100 eggplant
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>>63723834
I'm ashamed to say, but yes
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>>63723729
They would be dressed up as Boba Fett, obviously.
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>>63726200
>like how luke understood R2's beep boops?
Luke only ever seems to understand R2 when he's in his X-wing and there's a screen in the cockpit that translates for him.
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>>63723650

Virgins pls
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>>63726288
Yeah I agree that's better than nothing, but it's still not really a character flaw to be bad at some things.
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>>63723834
I do, but then I like the prequels.
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>>63723383
If a movie is worse if you know spoilers about it, it's not worth watching in the first place. Plenty of movies are still great even though they've been spoiled everywhere, such as empire strikes back, planet of the apes and psycho
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All right, here's everything wrong with the movie.

>Some of the quips and comedy falls flat
>Rey needs no training in the force, but that'll be probably explained away in VIII
>Cliffhanger ending
>New Republic capital is shown for about 2 seconds before it's blown up, zero build up or care behind the attack
>Main characters talk about Snoke as if they know him "It was all Snoke's fault"
>Film is more or less a love letter to IV
>Plot seems infatuated with the previous trilogy's main cast even though they could've not been in the movie (A map to Luke? Who made it and for what purpose?)
>Character development between Rey, Finn and Kylo does feel a little rushed

When I left the cinema, everyone had this look of contemplation on their faces.
Like they were content with what they saw, but there was just something underneath it all.
No one clapped at the end, no one was yelling and fist pumping in the lobby after or singing its praises.

It's a solid movie, but something is up with it.
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>>63720659
>BB-8 lands on Jakku to escape the First Order.
Nah. The info from San Tekka (on Jakku) is saved on a chip that gets put into BB-8 who now has to escape the FO.
>The pair comes across San Tekka
No they don´t. They meet Finn. San Tekka dies basically in the intro by the hands of Kylo Ren.
>and with the help of its owner... escape the desert planet...
Nope. Rey and Finn start the MF by themselves and later get picked up by Han Solo.
>Ren is Rey´s cousin
We don´t know which family Rey is actually from. There is a flashback but no actual information about her family. Even though they probably got murdered by Ren.
>secretly a sith lord
Nope. The first order knows he´s a sith lord. They even have a nice little talk about sith training while the order´s general is right there.

Seriously, did you watch the movie?
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>>63727075
>Main characters talk about Snoke as if they know him "It was all Snoke's fault"

this was fucking bizarre, how did Han know about Snoke?
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>>63727136
I mean, they'll probably explain that too with the whole Jakku thing but it just felt like Snoke should've been some behind the scenes puppet master only Hux and Kylo should of had knowledge about.
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>>63727136
>>63727075
Lea and Han seem to know Snoke. We will probably learn more about him in episode 8. After all he turned Ben to the dark side (probably during Luke´s training).
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>>63722584
>not Paul Verhoeven
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>>63727199
>>63727168
its not just that they know about snoke, its that they seem to be very informed of him. Like when han says that snoke is just using kylo for his force and he'll crush him when kylo isnt useful anymore.
>>
Han Solo dies like a bitch?
Just like that?
>>
So is kylo ren going to be in the episode 8, or did he die? Didn't read the thread. Also is Finn jedi?
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>>63727099
>arguing semantics

it's still a fucking new hope rehash
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>>63727398
I guess Greedo did shoot first.
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>>63727413
Kylo Ren got a little scarred (face slash, arm stabbed and slashed, leg slashed) but he´s alive. No, Rey is the jedi.
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>>63720306
When your first idea is to cast a black man as the leading role
Many other bad idea's follow
See fantastic four 2015 as an example
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>>63727398
yep, pretty fucking lame
https://vidDOTme/wMPh
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>>63727459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb4t5N7xY88
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>>63720431
Interracial romance confirmed?
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>>63727473
He's not the lead. It's Molly McTeefus.
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>>63727465
Hope all of that is true anon. The hype is real
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>>63727413
Finn is just a Stormtrooper, FN-2187
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>>63727452
Episode 1 also started on a desert planet featuring a boy living in trash who then gets mentored etc etc.
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>>63720373
>his fucking hand
Is this how that game started?
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>>63722850
>third deathstar gets destroyed killing millions of stormtroopers and their families
have you seen the movie?
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>>63723315

Good post I like it
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>>63727613
Werent they all kill?
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>>63727519
Only thing that kinda put me off about Kylo Ren is his real face. I mean he´s supposed to be a conflicted young sith but i think he could have looked a little more manly.
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absolutely nothing my good sir
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>>63727684

WHEN I WAS A YOUNG BOY
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>>63722850
>millions of storm troopers and families
There were just a bunch a military on the "death planet". Also they just wiped out the entire fucking Republic so i think the resistance doesn´t have much of a choice.
>lightsaber worthless in battle
Kylo Ren actually turns it in battle to hurt his opponents shoulder. Only reason he loses to Rey is because he´s badly wounded from Chewies shot.
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>>63727684
Is there any reason why his lightsaber looks so unstable? Or is it just unexplained JJ lens flare bs?
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>>63727865
Nah that´s how light sabers apparently look now. It´s probably just supposed to be the heat.
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>>63721260
this was pasta from yesterday litterally
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>>63727682
Pretty sure they weren't all killed but more important is that they don't have families - they only have serial numbers they aren't allowed to have anything more than duty
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>>63727919
I'm okay with this. One last question, were there any new note worthy vehicles that haven't been leaked yet?
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>>63728028
But they did have families.

When we see Finn's profile on the Star Destroyer's monitor it shows his face as a child.

Hux also states that the soldiers are stolen from homes and bred from a young age.
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>>63728105
Yes. They are taken FROM their families that are god knows where, but they certainly had no family's on the Starkiller that died with the planet
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>>63723306
jdif on full throttle
>you dont like it, too bad the shekels speak for themselves bad goy
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>>63724930
Ditto. I think only sad geeks who like to pretend they were persecuted for liking something geeky spurge over star wars. It was always mainstream.
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>>63723650
I'm just happy my lack of hype is justified now.
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Kylo's terrible voice
Transparent copy/paste of plot points/progression from Episode 4
Kylo being terrible in general
Iffy Alien CG (especially on Snoke; it is 2015, Andy. What the hell?)
Finn's inciting incident
Yoda-lite
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