So what's his motivation, why is he a bad buy?
His retarded as fuck lightsaber made him do it.
He thinks he's caring out the wishes of his grandfather Vader.
>>63720178
luke molested him
So why does he wear the mask?
He was being trained to be a jedi but the baddies kidnapped him and brainwashed him.
It's a shit plot and a shit film.
>>63720178
Han didn't buy him jnco jeans when he was a kid.
We'll find out in the new prequels.
He was forced to be in a glib facsimile.
>>63720178
Threadly reminder that Kylo 'Edgelord' Ren was the one who killed the badass smuggler Han Solo in the end. Bye Han...?
>>63720178
he's so conflicted
>>63720178
He saw a vision of the future where he got beat up by a tiny woman so he tried to become alpha by becoming a Sith but he remained omega.
>>63720247
wouldn't luke tell him that vader killed the emperor right before he died?
>>63720351
what is this new meme
He's the spirit of sand itself.
>>63720178
He had to be good for far too long. And then he got pissed.
>>63720476
He says "I will complete your vision" or some shit to the Darth Vader mask so I guess not.
Kylo isn't force sensitive or at the very least is very weak in utilizing it. He used electromagnetic gloves and years of lightsaber practice to fool people including Snoke into believing that he is talented in the force. Years ago before he was "captured" Luke tasked him with going along with his captors and infiltrating the First Order. He killed his father to give Rey, his sister, who is very powerful with the force, a reason to train and fight. Revenge is the most powerful motivator. He knows that his destiny is sealed and it falls to his sister to destroy the First Order.
He's an emo.
>>63720178
BUY THE TIE-IN INTERQUEL COMIC TO FIND OUT
>>63720584
>>63720476
Part of me thinks that the writers totally forgot Vader was somewhat redeemed by the end.
>>63720753
Pottery
>>63720178
He's an edgy teen with daddy issues who found his grandpa's nazi memorabilia in the basement and decided to imitate him.
>>63720327
Junior non-commisioned officer jeans?
>>63720753
Did Wile E. Coyote come up with this plan?
OH YOU MEAN ANOTHER CHARACTER THAT YOU CANT RELATE TO, HAS SHIT DIALOGUE, AND DOES SHIT FOR AN UNEXPLAINED REASON
PLEASE TELL ME, IN A WORLD WHERE EPISODES 1-3 EXIST, THAT I SHOULD BE SURPRISED
>>63720753
I'd welcome this tweest.
>>63720753
Jesus it rhymes.
>>63720178Jealous of granddaddy Anakin big dark side cock
>>63720815
He's dark, edgy, with a twisted view of the world, that is more practical than you think!
>>63720303
for protection maybe...?
>>63720387
No problem! You're getting an entire spin-off movie dedicated to a young Han Solo portrayed by [hot young adult actor]!
>>63720660
Vader has no vision he was just the dog of cheev, he had no objectif since his wife died according to the prequels
>>63720247
Didn't Vader redeem himself at the end, or are we supposed to believe Vader was super into the Darkside up to the point they wanted to kill Luke?
Oh God, what if there are two Vader Force Ghosts, one Good and one Bad. What fucking schlock that would be
>>63720897
THE ORIGINALS WERE SHIT ALSO.
Btw this movie is cringe.
>>63720178
He probably lost someone he loved. That's what I see on his face in that scene that leaked a couple hours ago.
>>63721178
0/10 thats for trying
lol
>>63720178
He is pretty boy who wants to be like his grandaddy Vader. But he actually ends up being space Snape. He is so tragic, and so hot.
And he killed Han Solo. Han Solo is dead. He is no more. HAN SOLO DIES.
>>63721166
>Vader was literally a different person from Anakin all along
This is the most well-crafted pottery I've ever seen. No doubt Sheev used his power to keep others from dying (learned from Plagueisnoke) to zap out Vader's spirit at the last second, thus ensuring his survival.
So is there any chance in this or any other universe at all that Kylo Ren WON'T be redeemed in some way in Episode IX?
Nobody cared who he was until he put on the mask
>>63721289
see>>63720753
He redeems himself when his plan comes into fruition. Hes obviously going to die in ep3 anyway.
>>63720753
Except that's completely fucking wrong. He's got telepathy and uses a Force Push constantly.
>>63721484
>i've watched the movie
Sure you have sport. You know in the scene where hes trying to break Rey she is the only one learning anything right? He cant get in her head because he cant read minds and influence people. He only gets information from Poe through torture.
>>63721577
And how does he torture Poe? With the Force. Is Poe Force sensitive? No. Is Rey? Yes, very fucking much. Is there a moment in the film where they say the words "electromagnetic gloves" or ANYTHING resembling that? Fuck no. You're writing bad fan fiction.
>>63720753
>Kylo Ren is Snape
He even looks like Snape too. That would be the shittiest twist of all.
SNOKE'S GONNA FREAK
>>63721638
You haven't watched the movie. Its fairly obvious from the get go with the way he acts, especially when talking to Snoke.
>Have you felt it?
>pause
>Unsure yes under his breath
His fucked up junk Lightsaber give him so much radiation he become mentally unstable
>>63721701
>i'm inferring things that aren't readily apparent
He's hesitant in front of fucking everybody, even Han Solo.
>>63720247
Wait, I thought he was Hans son
>>63720303
because he looks like a deformed child
>>63721701
how ur theory explain him launching rey 20 feet in the air with telepathy?
>>63721785
Yeah, it's not like he had a mother or anything.
>>63721701
I got the sense that he was uncertain and vulnerable throughout the entire movie simply because he's inexperienced and not that good with the Force. He's not some master sith or anything just an apprentice. It's unclear if even Snoke is an actual sith... whoever the hell he is or what's his deal I suppose we'll have to wait for the answers inPrometheus 2
>>63721862
ELECTROMAGNETIC GLOVES. CAN'T YOU FUCKING READ?
if you saw the movie, it'd be fucking OBVIOUS.
>>63722040
is rey magnetic?
>>63722040
So how does he paralyse people, read their minds and stop blaster bolts in mid air? Electromagnetism do all that?
>>63721862
he didn't? Why are you making shit up?
>>63720178
All the other kids at Luke's academy bullied him because he is an ugly fucking specimen.
>>63722088
>paralyze people
doesn't happen in the movie
>read their minds
doesn't happen in the movie. if anything the movie proves otherwise
>stop blaster bolts
electromagnetic gloves
>>63722092
Yes he did, in the forest scene when she gets briefly knocked oit
>>63722137
Electromagnetism can't push people.
>>63720178
he DAMAGED
HAHAHA
CRAZY
>>63722137
so you didn't watch it ok 3 / 10
>>63722137
he freezes rey in place the 1st time they meet
He also reads her mind and poe's
the blaster bolt he stops at the start stays there even after he lowers his hand and starts conversing with people only after he walks away does the bolt continue.
anyone else get boner'd by the rey interrogation scene. all the rape undertones
>>63720178
He had a bad time staying at his uncle's
>>63722213
don't forget he also senses solo's presence
Is the German dub any good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BC9daxWrL8
>>63722285
Germany why do you still dub.
Get on with the times we are at Europe for godsake.
>>63722263
yea i almost forgot about that, all this makes it seem he is strong in the force and yet Finn goes toe to toe with him in a sabre duel and even lands a hit, then Rey absolutely pushes his shit in.
>>63722370
well his training wasn't 'complete' so they can make him however fucking powerful they see fit.
Parents divorced, Disney ruins 40 years of lore to make more money.
>>63722370
Not that easy swinging your sword with a hole in your stomach.
>>63722157
yes it can, when you punch someone what really happen is literally atoms repelling themselves, I know it sounds very, VERY stupid but it's real.
>>63721638
Not to mention he uses the force to freeze a fucking blaster shot
>>63722370
Injured from an explosion and a fucking bowcaster bolt to the chest
>>63722423
>>63722449
>>63722468
Yet he easily threw Rey into a tree, but couldn't do the same to Finn
>>63722464
man, if only the rest of the movie would have been as refreshing as that scene.
>>63720476
>>63720660
it's all part of his plan
when he says that he'll finish what vader started he's talking about destroying the empire once and for all
he's pretending to be a bad guy to gain snoke's trust and then by the 9th movie he'll redeem himself and they'll show han is alive(and black, played by idris elba)
>>63722370
>>63722423
That's kind of the part that makes him interesting. it's like the movie's makers knew all he ever was going to be was a shabby vader clone / wannabe who could never live up to the legend so they just ran with the idea. The result is a character who is pitiful and sad but also kind of likeable as a result. I found myself rooting for him desu
>>63722137
>Blasts of pure energy are magnetic
>>63722137
>>paralyze people
>doesn't happen in the movie
Actually he uses it on Rey in the forrest to capture her. He's force sensitive from his mother.
>>63721331
It's true, all of it
>>63722502
I can easily beat a girl at running a sprint at any distance, yet blacks own all championships everywhere.
Do you even genetics?
>>63722352
Sweet rebuttal
>>63722520
A photon is pure energy and it's also electomagnetic
>>63722502
Rey was probably in with the plot and jumped into the tree herself. It all makes sense
Jar Jar is the key.
>>63722503
It set the bar pretty high
>>63722502
I dont get the point in arguing if he's force sensitive. Doesn't change the theory.
>>63722713
He is force sensitive, His strength in the force is just inconsistent throughout the movie, and this bullshit theory that he use's electromagnetic gloves is fucking stupid and made up by some faggot who hasn't seen the movie or if he has then he has some serious fucking issues
>>63722352
it's over electromagnetic gloves man, we have the high ground
>>63721785
>>63720753
Rey is his cousin though.
