The critics love TFA.
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2.5/5 is considered fresh
>positive reviews say it's a rehash but give it a pass because it's star wars
>negative reviews say it's a rehash and we shouldn't give it a pass just because it's star wars
Really seeing a lot of love there
>>63704682
also most of the reviews are from sites that haven't reviewed anything else
>>63704647
>the critics love a tremendous franchise with literally billions of dollars at steak that appeals to lowest common denominator factors, nostalgia, and is helmed by a competent action director
COLOR ME SURPRISED
>>63704682
8.4 average rating. You're getting desperate.
inb4 a few negative reviews start coming in and they are met with death threats and people complaining they're only giving it negative reviews for attention.
>>63704767
>only giving it negative reviews for attention.
Glib Fascimile guy got comments saying that despite his complaints being exactly the same as the positive reviews but he didn't end it with "but it's Star Wars so who cares :^) 10/10"
>>63704647
>The critics love TFA.
The critics (for the most part) are either paid-off, scared of badmouthing JJ and Disney because they don't want to be shunned by Hollywood, or are just plebs in every artistic sense.
It's very likely it's a combination of all three though.
Need I remind you these are the same idiots that called Jurassic World, Fury Road, The Martian, Interstellar and countless other capeshit movies "masterpieces."
They have no credibility.
>>63704733
>8.4 average rating
>on rotten tomatoes
So its up there with and almost as good as Brazil (8.7) and Once Upon a Time in the West (9.0)?
Christ
We'll know soon enough the truth
>>63704822
>They have no credibility.
As opposed to you, an anonymous shitposter on a Laotian finger puppet bulletin board
>>63704846
he'll love it
>>63704863
the credibility is equal in fairness, if you really want to be a judgemental arsehole
>>63704863
Yes, because I have no ulterior motives. Writing reviews is a livelihood for these people. All of us here talk about film and television because we enjoy it, not because we're paid to talk about it.BTFO
>>63704863
No one is linking to anonymous shitposts on a japanese style imageboard as if they're credible sources.
Whereas, blogs that haven't reviewed another movie are being counted as legitimate reviews.
I've read the leaks. I'm sure most of us have. There's no way anyone could have enjoyed the movie unless they're just a drooling retard who likes seeing explosions and light saber fights (i.e. normies).
>>63704822
Fury Road is a masterpiece though
Stop lumping that film in with the rest of the overrated trash like capeshit. It stands on its own in every technical and artistic sense.
>>63704973
>Fury Road is a masterpiece though
raise your standards for fucks sake
>>63704846
He's gonna call it a rehash of a New Hope and rightfully so.
>>63704789
I'm really disturbed that is where we are as a society. "It is an established franchise worth billions of dollars so just watch it and enjoy it"
>>63704647
So from what I can tell a film, produced by Disney, rehashes the story of one of its predecessors yet this gets overlooked because critics are too in love with the franchise and the story has those moments that tug on 'muh feels' and 'make me feel emotional' that they heap inflated praise upon it until it's critical reception is better than films like Platoon (88%, 8.1/10), Cries and Whispers (89% 8.1/10), The Shawshank Redemption (91%, 8.2/10), The Tree of Life (84%, 8.1/10), and Drive (92%, 8.3/10).
Gee, now when has this happened before.....
People of 4chan, There is no reason that film is a disappointment that 4chan trolls said, all of critics say that episode 7 is great film, the one film that you will really hate is Alvin 4.
All i want to say is there is no disapointments. so stop the bashing of episode 7, and start the bashing and flames of 4lvin and the Chipmunks: The Road Chip (4 is a replacement to A)
review aggregate sites are silly and do not work
go back to tumblr
>>63704970
You realise how dumb that sounds, right? You sound dumb right now. You are probably dumb, let's be honest. That was an obviously dumb thing to say and you would have realised it was dumb were you not likely dumb.
>>63704991
They're higher than yours I'm sure
It IS a technical masterpiece with an unfiltered albeit imperfect artistic sensibility. It's a movie that is perfect in form in nearly every shot and cut that, at the same time, portrays the alien vision of its creator without compromise. That's a fucking rare movie. Get over it.
>>63704694
/thread
>>63704647
>made an exact guess for 97%
Feels smug
daily reminder
>>63705108
>It's a movie that is perfect in form in nearly every shot and cut that, at the same time, portrays the alien vision of its creator without compromise. That's a fucking rare movie. Get over it.you asked for it
>>63705208
>and boasts a heartfelt, genuinely moving story to boot.
>>63705208
>relies on real horror
>heartfelt, genuinely moving story
>>63705208
Why.
>>63705224
>>63705224
I rest my case
B-B-B-B-B-UT
>>63704647
/tv/ btfo AGAIN.
>>63705808
>Tina Fey proper dolled up
hnnnnnnggg
>>63704647
To be honest I question the standards of normies these days. I mean a lot of what they're enjoying is actually regurgitated crap.
This is literally a rehash of Episode IV. Nobody seems to give a shit because OMG STAR WARS!!11
>>63705108
If the movie wasn't basically made in photoshop, with all the blatant digital splicing on display, you might have an argument.
>>63705848
>To be honest I question the standards of normies these days.
The standard of the mainstream audience has always been low. It's nothing really new.
Even going to before cinema, when theater reigned as the main source of artistic entertainment. Sure Shakespeare, Miller, Beckett, Ibsen and Williams were well received - but what was even more popular was vaudeville, especially in North America.
Then you had the studio system during the early days of Hollywood, and honestly, the current state of American film-making is mimicking the studio system of old.
The problem is the current generation have been brought up on blockbusters. Coupled with the fact that they now have a shorter attention span; it's the perfect recipe for producers and studios to remake and rehash old shit, just with more explosions and shiny things to keep people interested.
It's really a sad state of affairs, but I don't see it ending anytime soon.
>>63705848
The "OMGS!!" will pass, just like The Phantom Menace. Sooner or later people will settle down and see how awful the movie is.
>>63704647
>critics fell for the TFA is good meme
cucks are gonna feel really silly in a few months when everyone realizes the new movie is trash
>>63706281
To be fair, it isn't even legitimate "OMGS!!" Its just crass marketing. Hell, its basically just the standard marketing blitz for every high profile movie released in the last decade.
>>63706281
Agreed. Nostalgia hits first. So people will be elated that its a new Star Wars. Not only that, the film has been hyped to hell. So people will feel like they need to think its amazing. When the hype settles, people will realize its the same shit different century and switch off it.
>>63704647
>tfw I've been spoiled
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>63706281
>Sooner or later people will settle down and see how awful the movie is.
...And then fall for the next bullshit franchise reboot or sequel.
>"Those new Star Wars movies were pretty average."
>"Yeah, I know. Screw Star Wars."
>"Yeah!"
....
>"Hey, did you hear there's gonna be a new Back to the Future!?"
>"Really? Awesome!"
>>63706370
Why are you conducting yourself as if this is something other than marketing?
>>63704647
Don't worry /tv/.
Avatar will always be the #1 grossing film of all time for the next century.
>>63706455
saved that was great
>>63704822
The Martian and fury road were tremendous.
>>63706455
nigga it didn't even beat gone with the wind.
>>63706455
Was that a movie? Avatar? Dont remember it.
>>63704647
I watched it and it was absolutely terrific. It's a nostalgic masterpiece with a lot of humor and charm, Just like you would expect from a Disney movie.
There are moments that could have been skipped, but I gave them a pass because not every day you get a new Star Wars movie.
>>63706517
Thats weird, you don't remember it but it's in your dvd/blu-ray collection?
>>63706510
>mu.. muh inflation!!!
Re-released 12+ times in a time before home cinema.
>>63704647
>same ratings than classics like Amadeus
yeah okay
>>63704647
It's a film driven by nostalgia, it's going to get 10/10s.
>>63706659
>#1 movie of all time that no one cares about
lol Avatar sucks.
>>63704647
For 50 bucks I can write a good review for this underwhelming shit. just focus on nostalgia and SJwism.
>>63706686
cry all you want, at least it didnt rely purely on nostalgia and was more innovative than any movie ever released.
>>63706659
Yes? and?
Nothing will ever do that again.
A masterpiece.
>>63706686
back to reddit
>>63706724
No it just relied on a story copied from about three other movies.
>Dances with Wolves in Space
>Ferngully in Space
Take your pick.
>he rooted for giant blue nigs over his own species
>>63706793
>wahhh Ill say you are from Reddit!
>>63704682
Yeah, they changed the 50%=rotten thing for this, which is pretty odd.
>>63704994
Luke wasn't a Mary Sue.
>>63706815
>>63705848
You guy's don't get it.
It's not rehashing, it's POTTERY!
>>63706801
I rooted for being a giant blue nig rather than a human trapped in an existential nightmare.
>>63706877
I bet you are voting for Sanders too you cuck
>rooting for nonhumans
Redd*t wars BTFO
>>63706344
That's the thing, as long as the script and acting are decent, there really isn't anything wrong with loving this movie then. It's Star Wars. People love it for the music, the designs, etc. Of all the franchises out there, Star Wars really doesn't need to stray that far off into new territory, because what it already has is special.
>>63706977
>12 YEARS
>>63706455
Don't even like Avatar that much, but this is hilarious.
>>63707058
>Star Wars really doesn't need to stray that far off into new territory, because what it already has is special.
So what you're saying is that nostalgia should come before anything else "because muh Star Wars, muh childhood?" If so, fuck off. You're one of the reasons why Star Wars is full of cancer. Stop spreading it.
>>63707158
People love the clone trooper designs. People love the spacecraft designs. They love the world that's already in place. I don't care about what it did to my childhood. Just accept that Star Wars doesn't need to pull a mad max. And you're right, it is running on nostalgia, but the thing is this is the best nostalgia any movie has to offer. So why ruin that?
>>63707308
There's being different with differences and then there's blatant rip off. TFA falls under the latter category. Possibly under a subcategory that reads "PC approved. Whites btfo"
> but the thing is this is the best nostalgia any movie has to offer. So why ruin that?
I'm going to let you find the stupidity in your words
>>63705848
Star Wars games have been doing this hero's journey template for a while but they just had to come up with the most basic thing for the movie.
Even The Phantom Menance was less derivative, yet similair.
If i had to stop all those troll whiners about how episode 7 is dissapointing. The SW Ring theory may stop it. http://www.starwarsringtheory.com/
Now think about that. Did episode 7 and the ring theory connect together?
>>63705108
>All those sped up shots weren't cheesy as fuck.
>>63705059
Go away JJ.
Daily reminder: Global warming is real and you are all doomed!
>>63704647
>believing what payed shills think
I haven't seen it and already know it's a bad movie.
I never cared about Star Wars. I'm just going to watch it as it is, a fucking movie. Just rate it for yourselves you fucks.
>>63704647
I'd love to be proven wrong and get a classic Star Wars film. But is there a shred of evidence to suggest it will be a classic?
The trailer? There were some neat shots, but lots of shitty films had exciting trailers. Phantom Menace immediately springs to mind.
The writers? JJ has never written a truly great script. I'd argue the closest he came was the breddy gud script for "Regarding Henry", but that was flukey and happened decades ago.
Kasdan wrote two classic films, Empire and Raiders, but he's been in deep freeze (or a Big Chill, as it were) for decades. The last project he worked on was a Diane Keaton weepy flop called "Darling Companion".
The director? Again, JJ has done nothing new, inventive, or enduring in his career. His films have a fun pace and lots of kinetic energy, but they're merely above average for an action director. He doesn't seem to have the genius eye of Spielberg or the imagination of young Lucas.
All in all, you're basing your prediction on nothing more than hope. Which is okay I guess, because I'm hoping too... But I don't expect anything other than a nostalgic, fast-paced romp through the Star Wars universe.
If you're hoping for the magic discovery of A New Hope or the spiritual depth of Empire, I'm afraid you're likely to be disappointed.
Just go in hoping for fun, which is what I'm hoping we get after the dreary death march that was the prequel era.
>>63705069
I wonder what she thinks of the cunny threads?
>>63707578
>Global warming is real
lol good one
>>63704647
doesn't matter reality, /tv/ - /pol/ will just justify is a plot of the jews in hollywood, you cannot reason with this people
>>63704647
Hahhahaha. /tv/ is more retarded than /pol/ confirmed. At least /pol/ accurately predicts Trump stay in up in polls.
Careful faggots, you're close to making this board /b/ tier
>>63704822
>implying you won't say SEE I TOLD YOU at every bad review
>implying you didn't say the reviews will be bad
/tv/: le goalpost moving men
The problem with TFA being the same as ANH is that if they are substantially similar, there is no justification for making a new film and telling a 'new' story. I know they just want money, but the ads refer to this as the story of a new generation of Star Wars, but this movie appears to be simply referencing the OT and explaining where the old characters are while trying to fit in new characters in the mold of old characters (Rey=Luke). If the OT tells the same story as TFA, then the OT is the clearly better of the story (it being it's own original thought) and there would be no reason to see TFA or even make the film.
>>63707348
>le /pol/ whine boy
>>63705069
I bet she's the one reporting all the actress threads
>>63704701
Nice try.
>>63708133
Wrong picture?
>>63708270
Look again, above the consensus.
>>63707526
I've read that before and it's pretty much just intense mental gymnastics by diehard star wars fans who can't admit the prequels were bad.
>>63708332
Oh!
Had to go to the site and check out what that button does.
Never been a Rotten Tomatoes person myself, but alright, I get it now.
>>63707924
Yeah,unlike us, the star wars fans.
We're so reasonable.
If this movie was the equivalent to an essay, the person that wrote it would be expelled for plagiarism - would also get an F for unoriginality.
> Obi Wan == Han Solo
>R2-D2 == BB-8
>Kylo Ren == Anakin Skywalker
>Snoke == Palpatine
>Rey == Luke
>Luke == Yoda
etc
Neckbeards on suicide watch
>>63709945
Why?
Everyone is confirming what /tv/ predicted, the movie is pure fanservice, so much, that it's literally A New Hope with different names for the characters and places.
JJ is an uncreative hack.
BTFO
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>>63704647
>read like 12 reviews
>they all say story is bad
>they all say story is a rehash
>they all say new characters don't gel much old characters
>they all give movie 4.5/5
This is some Twilight Zone shit right here.
>>63711122
IT'S STAR WARS!
>Rotten Tomatoes
kill yourself
>Implying you fags wouldn't be having a party if it got a rotten score
Now you're all butthurt and saying "w-who cares about r-rottentomatoes"
>>63711122
Yep, never have I been more certain that Disney pays off critics than I am right now.
>>63704970
I could probably write the plot to any of the original trilogy films in a way that would drive a newcomer away too.
>>63711122
Show me one review that does this.
>implying the reviewers aren't guaranteed to give kuck wars high marks because it features a jiggaboo lead and copious amounts of black supremacy symbolism
FRIENDLY REMINDER to downvote the movie into oblivion on all major review sites. spread this
>>63707532
>cheesy is bad
This board is for adults
I bet you never even saw the first mad max
>>63707578
>59 degrees tomorrow
Jesus Christ I'm going to ride with my convertible top down the week before Christmas to see star wars episode 7
This probably the least likely event to ever occur in my life
>>63705060
This movie has some feelings in it.
I liked it.
>>63712260
or, you know, the entertainment industry is one big circlejerk
>>63704725
Yeah, because they loved "the phantom menace", right?
>>63704647
Haven't seen the other Star Wars, is it worth beginning with this one?
>>63705022
I bet if we were still in the Berenstein Universe, we'd have good movies. This place sucks.
>>63704822
Fury Road is wayyyyyy better than those shit flicks. Kill yourself
Here is a review that gives it 3/4 stars.
>Star Wars: The Force Awakens is no more and no less than the movie that made us love it in the first place. In fact, it's basically the same thing. Isn't that what we all wanted anyway?
>>63712780
>the writing wasn't laughably bad
>the cheesiness didn't ruin the few dramatic moments
>the movie wasn't aesthetically generic ("omg blue and orange!!! omg a guy with a flame-throwing guitar!! omg skulls! omg just like slipknot or whatever shitty band white trash kids like me love!!!")
>>63713143
It really isn't
Your like those people who go
>uhh bay sucks transformers movies are so dumb only idiots think they are good
>ANOTHER AVENGERS MOVIE! COUNT ME IN
>>63713279
Nice, that means the next one will be an Empire Strikes Back copy.
>but it relies a little too much on recycling old plot elements
FRESH
>>63704647
This is JUST the type of rehash I was expecting, it's nothing but a glib facsimile.
If Star Wars was all I had access to as a child in terms of sci-fi I probably would become one of those crazy fanboys, but thankfully I had access to anime from very early on in my youth years that my mental balance is very stable.
Seriously, if you have watched Akira, you'd realize just how sophisticated anime is and it blows away anything Star Wars would have to offer.
A lot of people mention Ghost In The Shell, which has just enough of sexuality in the mix to draw in the western audience I suppose but I must say that Ghost In The Shell is not even in my top 10 anime, not even close, that's just how deep the world of anime is.
Some anime is so disturbingly mature like Fractale that I wish it would challenge the system and submit it as a Drama category in the Oscars just to bitchslap the snotty Academy.
It's not just the level of maturity and sophistication anime has, it's also quite original, entertaining, and visually fantastic. I would regard anime as the highest form of cinema art-form.
But hey, me preaching about anime won't do you any good, you gotta go out and see it for yourself just how much you are missing.
The recent one I would recommend to check out is Sword Art Online which is light and easy to get into anime for the first time yet appreciate it as much, but if you want the heavy stuff right off the line check out Guilty Crown in which the plot is so complex and twisted that you'll need extra oxygen pumped into your brain in order to comprehend everything, and if you want amazing visuals and a gripping drama that also has awesome mecha battles Aldnoah.Zero is the shit.
Seriously, if you know anime like I do, Star Wars looks like it's something for little kids.
>>63713385
So it's like the last Terminator ?
I love how triggered /tv/ is right now.
Clearly once again you guys were wrong and everyone is going to love this.
/tv/ once again has to hate on something just for the sake of hate while everyone is happy and having a good time. The world will keep spinning but /tv/ will be left behind.
I almost feel bad for you guys. Almost.
>>63713439
Not really it's not that abysmal, TFA is entertaining but shitty
Wait, you guys are joking, right? It isn't literally a rehash of A New Hope, right?
This has to be some new epic meme.
>"Hey JJ, wanna make the new Star Wars?"
>"Oh you want me to make another reboot?"
>"No JJ, we want you to make the NEW Star Wars movie, but you have to use a lot from the old movies for the nostalgia! Basically we want you to make the same movie, but new. Get it?"
>"Yes. A reboot."
>>63713528
pfff I remember when Episode III came out that everyone was hailing it as the 2nd best movie in the franchise, that Anakin's fall was handled in the best possible way, etc, etc and look at how that movie is regarded today
>>63704647
Where were you when Abrams saved blockbuster cinema?
>>63713588
So basically every new star wars movie is doomed to be shit then, right?
>bad reviews
>TOLD YOU SO
>good reviews
>GUYS REMEMBER EPISODE 1 AND 3
>>63713528
Then why do you keep coming back here everyday and trying to be part of this board?You're not as anonymous as you think
>>63713431
>>63713346
>>the writing wasn't laughably bad
It wasn't
>>the cheesiness didn't ruin the few dramatic moments
It didn't
>>the movie wasn't aesthetically generic ("omg blue and orange!!!
Now you're really reaching with the imaginary criticisms
Using a third Death Star and not showing Luke is unforgivable
>>63713628
Because you guys entertain me. Your autism mixed with cynicism is actually amusing most of the time.
>>63713627
>So basically every new star wars movie is doomed to be shit then, right?
Well it's part of the disney capeshit machine now so yes, absolutely every one of them is doomed to be shit. If the writers and directors actually tried to make something that wasn't intentional mediocrity they'd be fired.
>>63713375
That is really untrue. If you can't figure out why Cahiers du Cinema put mad max on their top ten then you're a pleb
>>63713375
But i don't watch capeshit
>>63705069
What a fat cunt.
>dat myspace angle
Shit, is it 2007 again?
>>63713627
I'm just saying that it's too early to claim that /tv/ was wrong, because the initial impressions of Star Wars are always too glowing.
Also they're saying the movie is "fresh" but the descriptions of the movie don't sound enticing
>>63707532
>I've never seen a Mad Max movie before.
Its a throwback you fucking mong, happens in every Mad Max film.
>>63713375
If you can't understand why Mad Max was as praised as it was, you really don't understand what makes movies good in general. I'm guessing your criticism was "I was bored!" or "Nothing happened!".
>>63713762
Sorry but /tv/ is wrong this time.
>>63713684
Don't beat around the bush with scripted answers you chronic shitposting reject
>>63713811
I haven't seen it yet but if it's as they say, a beat by beat remake of ANH, then I can already tell you that /tv/ was right.
That's even more boring than if they fucked up because the prequels, while shit, were also memorable for it.
This will be forgotten just like the Star Trek reboot.
>>63704647
Of course they do. This movie has a woman as main character instead of a blonde man. Critics today are a bunch of progressives that eat that kind of stuff.
I'm not against having a woman MC, but when this is literally the same movie as 40 years ago but with a woman instead of a man and is getting high scores just because of that, then there is the problem
>>63713782
>the old ones did it, so that makes it good...it's intentionally shitty
no
>>63713855
Even the positive reviews say it's a rehash
But it's Star Wars so who cares right?
It's down to 95% now guys.
>>63713972
Why is he reviewing movies now?
>Is literally a rehash with minute differences
>Luke is now a woman and his name is Rey
>Tatooine is now called Jakku
>The Rebellion is now called The Resistance
>The Empire is now called the First Order
>The new Star Destroyer now destroys solar systems and not just planets
>R2-D2 is now BB-8
>Han is this movie's Ben
This movie is literally just a rehash of ANH and people are falling for it expecting some grand spectacle which has never been done before. I fully expect a shit ton of people to be massively disappointed with this movie.
>>63705089
TFA apologists on denial. You know it's nothing original and for star wars this is the definition of shit.
>>63704647
It's slowly going down
>>63713958
It being shitty is your opinion, but its been a running theme in all the Mad Max movies.
Are you saying you like long running series to change things that are a part of what they are ... you want starwars without space battles and lightsabers ? You want a hiest movie without hiests ?
Mad Max is known for its sped up scenes, Fury Road using them was no different than the last movies, its not shitty because you didn't like it yourself.
>>63714076
TFA KEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>63714054
IT'S STAR WARS!
>>63714222
I FUCKING LOVE STAR WARS
PLEASE TINDER ME
>>63714054
That may be true BUT IT'S [Star Wars/diverse/directed by JJ] SO IT GETS A PASS
I can't believe the spoilers and RLM predictions were so spot on.
This is fucking pathetic. Did they even try to do anything innovative?
>>63704725
>at steak
>>63713025
>>63705060
I tought this movie was a piece of shit, it only got this reviews after folks watched JW and where blinded by notstalgia train.
Ewoks were the greatest thing to happen to the star wars franchise
>>63706801
duhh those 3 other movies where inspired by a rela event called the conquest of mexico shit tard.
Therefore none of those movies can say they are copies of each other.
>>63713079
Phantom Menace did in fact get quite a lot of good reviews at first by supposedly respected movie critics
>>63714733
It is. It was only after the inertia settled that the afterglow turned into contempt.
