>The GOAT capeshit
>a GOAT Christmas movie in it's own right
Was Nolan even trying?
>>63647907
Best batman to be honest
and it's even a christmas movie
>>63647907
>this poster
did you think there wouldn't be giant penguins with missiles strapped to there backs? don't worry because there are
>>63647907
Batman has always been perfect for Tim Burton, and you people would have known that by now if you cared enough to read the comics"hurr hurr he reads comics" well don't make fucking capeshit threads if you don't know shit about them
First, that's not the best Batman movie; second, it's not a Christmas movie.
You're batting 0-2.
>>63647907
Not enough batman
>>63648081
>>63648084
Capekeks pls return to /co/
>>63648051
but the comic fags hate Burton's movies
>>63648160
because of the writing. the art and setting are all spot on
>>63648208
but they bitch to this day about based Danny being a freak / mutant and about Batman wearing thick rubber instead of homoerotic spandex
>>63647907
OP here, wrong Batman, sorry.
>>63648257
does /tv/ sanction this buffoonery?
>>63648081
well now you're just talking crazy
favorite Batman desu. I love the scene where they both learn the other's identity.
Why does /tv/ love Batman Returns so much? Why does it get a free pass from you guys from the 'all capeshit is bad' meme?
You guys laugh at Nolan's movies for being goofy but Burton's movies were full of insane goofy shit
>>63648160
Who gives a shit what comic fags think.
>>63647907
I watch this every year a week before Christmas.
Same with Die Hard and Home Alone. Cool to see other people have the same feels.
>>63648482
Because of just that, it doesn't try to take it self too seriously. It's treated like a fairy tale. Of the 7 Batman movies, it looks the best. Great cinematography, art direction and production value.
Batman Returns is the closest capeshit got to "FILM" or independent art house shit.
I bet Warner Bros. freaked when they saw it for the first time. "We let Burton do THIS for our summer blockbuster with this budget?!?" Probably the only capeshit without studio interference.
>>63648613
Yea this, Burton knew this shit was fantasy so he framed it all like a fantasy. Nolan thinks it should be played realistically which is why gonzo shit like Bane / CIA are so jarring and silly.
At the same time though he also tried to delve just a bit into Batman's mind and what could make a guy like this tick and how he sees reality. Gotham might be apeshit because the world through Wayne's eyes is distorted and freakish.
Here's a good read:
http://gothamalleys.blogspot.ca/2011/01/batman-in-movies.html
>>63647907
I don't remember this poster. Is it legit?
>>63648675
That's pretty much what happen.
Mom's literally freaked and mcdonalds said "you can't go this dark anymore or we'll cut your toy deals forever"
>>63648675
McDonald's got pissed as fuck at him because they marketed it as a kids movie but then you had Penguin and Catwoman definitely not being child friendly
>I'd like to fill HER void
>>63648493
this
>be me, 10 years old
>want to see this real bad
>loved the last one
>Penguin and Catwoman were my favorites
>mom and dad take me to see it
>HYPED
>loving the snow/christmas setting
>Batman fighting the clown terrorists is cool af
>get to pic related scene
>mom keeps cringing at dialogue
>mom keeps whispering shit to my dad
>it's distracting, I miss what they're saying
>suddenly, the characters on film are all laughing
>out of nowhere, Penguin bites the guys nose
>blood squirts out
>holy shit, that's awesome
>mom freaks, insists we have to leave
>my parents pull me out, get a refund
I never even got to see Batman interact with Penguin or see that sexy bitch Catwoman. Then my friends told me that later in the movie you get to see Christopher Walken's fried corpse. To top it off, my mom never let me get the cool Kenner Batcave Command Center that folded into Wayne Manor/Batcave/Arctic Lair or the Batmobile. Refused to let me see the Batman movies and get the toys that following Christmas (my dad snuck me the Bruce Wayne custom coupe tho).
That fucking cunt.
>>63648482
You can't treat capeshit as anything other than campy and tongue-in-cheek. Burton knew this.
Nolan is an autist who tried to take schlock and mesh it with a more serious tone.
>>63649276
>>63648482
Burton knew what he was doing. He had the right balance for his Batman movies.
Schumacher was a studio puppet, they forced him to make a flick about toys.
Nolan was an autistic brit that got caught up in making capeshit as earnest as can be, which is just as silly as making it as campy as it can be.
Just listen to how these two shills describe the Nolan stuff when they get to it. All they can mutter is "realism" and "real world" because of how anal Nolan was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLV_4pEyuqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtMznRfHUN8
>>63649071
My parents didn't even let me see it and I was 11 at the time.
>>63649071
It's rough having an overly-protective mom. You'll learn to forgive her for these things after she's dead.
Batman Returns is terrible. Nostalgia is all it has going for it
>>63649551
Fuck off /co/ go read your funny papers
>>63647907
>Tim Burton
>best Batman
Well there you go being wrong again, OP
>>63649596
>>63649551
Hello Reddit!
>>63647907
Best Batman coming through faglords
>goat capeshit
that's not spiderman 2
>>63649071
kek, dat file name
>>63649624
You need to chill out
>>63649551
I watched it a few months ago, and it's definitely the best of all the ones I've seen. I'm not a huge fan of Batman (I don't know how it should look), but I was more entertained by it than by any of the Nolan ones (though I didn't see the second of his).
I don't think you can beat the penguin scene at the end. It's simultaneously comic and somehow deeply sad.
>>63648752
saw this in the theater with parents and when he says, "Just the PUSSY i've been lookin for" all the air in the room was immediately sucked up by all the adults gasping at once
>>63649921
BR might be the best capeshit ever simply for trolling the sponsors
>>63649342
i refuse to believe this is real
>>63649955
not only is it real, it's even more stupid and arrogant in context where he says what makes TDRK 'big' is that there were a lot of extras in the stadium, which Nolan claims is the most anyone has seen since the silent era despite how Gandhi in fact had more extras.
>>63649921
That's what is so great about most of the film. There are so many innuendos and stuff that you don't detect as a kid. Then when you're older, you rewatch it and pick up on so much shit that you missed.
Any movie worth it's salt caters to kids and adults. It's a shame it rubbed people the wrong way and offended people for "muh darkness". I would have loved to have seen a third one by Burton.
>>63650019
burton really wanted to do the 4th one but the other dick was contractually obligated. his first pick for mr freeze was patrick stewart
>>63647907
Fucking A right OP. I'm going to go watch it right now.
>>63650019
>so many innuendos and stuff that you don't detect as a kid
"why mr cobblepot, that's the biggest parasol i've ever seen!"
>>63648051
Yeah, he really sticks to the story. I remember that issue with jokers origin story. Oh wait....well, there was that great fight with Max Shrek... Oh shit, that didn't happen either. Maybe those movies aren't actually good?
![Batman.Returns.1992.1080p.BluRay.x264.mp4_snapshot_00.58.21_[2015.12.13_23.36.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6VFBKfF.jpg "Batman.Returns.1992.1080p.BluRay.x264.mp4_snapshot_00.58.21_[2015.12.13_23.36.35].jpg")
>>63650019
it's a shame we couldn't get a Burton trilogy, even though as I recall the design for the third batsuit was pretty awful and looked like skinless muscle or something.
A tiny tiny irrational part of my mind secretly wishes that since nostalgia and capeshit are popular these days WB will try to rope Burton and Keaton into doing one more with an old Batman but Burton's such a hack now and even if he wasn't the style of those two movies would not fly at all with modern capeshit audiences so it's pointless
>>63650136
>MUH COMICS DETERMINE A MOVIE'S QUALITY
>>63648015
>tfw you had the toys of them
I loved those guys.
>>63647925
close
>>63649687
that's a cold joke.
>>63650136
>Maybe those movies aren't actually good?
Too bad Burton's Batmans are among, the best.
>>63650157
>Burton and Keaton into doing one more with an old Batman but Burton's such a hack now
i can see it now
>helena bonham carter as harley quinn
>johnny depp as the joker
>>63650258
comparing cartoons and a movie
>>63650136
>sticks to the story
>maybe those movies aren't actually good
The first and second Batman are movies based on a comic anon. They're adaptations and inspirations from the comic, NOT the actual comic.
Most of the criticisms directed at guys like Burton or Raimi and their capeshit movies are based on "muh canon" or trivial comic BS. They weren't making comic books, their intent wasn't to adhere to tripe, 2D stories. They sought to make movies. It's quite simple really.
http://gothamalleys.blogspot.ca/2011/01/batman-in-movies.html
As an adaptation of the character from the comics, the movies work perfectly. They're fine. In some cases, the changes were better than the comics. What is Penguin and Catwoman in those original stories? They're pretty one dimensional. What the filmmakers did was give their own take on the material, from Burton to the writers and artists. Stop being so narrow minded because of things those funny books dictated.
>>63650295
SoBirdman 2.
>>63650157
WB would never ever let Burton make another Batman movie, even if he was still good. There's no room for creativity or risks when you're trying to build your multi-billion dollar "universe".
Studios will continue to employ safe, unimaginative guys like Abrams and Snyder to keep the shekels rolling in.
>>63650338
You're appealing to an autist and autists like him that have a set opinion of what a movie should be because of the children's comics that it's based on. Any variation on that is 'wrong'. They don't understand that adhering to what fans want like a blueprint only leads to an unsatisfying and forgettable end product.
>>63647907
Between this and superman 78 is there any actually good cape films?
Is Marvel Movie Factory even trying
>>63650566
Unsatisfying and forgettable, but profitable. That's why Snyder is a genius. He knows he doesn't even need to write a coherent plot or even film competently because the capeshit nerds WILL praise and eat up anything that references their ebic 'graphic novels', all he has to do is shove in enough visual callbacks or quotes and the dollars will come rolling in
>>63650619
Spiderman 1 and 2 (Raimi)
Mystery men
Dark man
Timecop
Rocketeer
>>63650619
I think what >>63650402 said is right. They can make a pretty good movie, but they'll never make a great one. They have no vision outside of blandly making money. Why risk Burton putting in sexual innuendos every other line?
>>63650019
Damon Wayne as Robin would have been "interesting"
>>63650566
Dubs confirm this is true.
Look at TDKR. Selina/Catwoman in that is pretty much comic accurate I would say. They made her the catburglar, thief she was in the comics. She's fucking boring though. They had a chance to really make that character shine but instead, she just blended in with the other secondary characters. What's the most interesting thing about her? That stupid clean slate USB that's been done to death in comics and capeshit movies to death?
With Returns, it had a theme. They took this "animal people" concept and applied it to three different personas that represent Batman. The approach did something new and interesting with it instead of retreading new ground. People praise that Pfeiffer Catwoman, not because it's "comic accurate" but because it's fresh and exciting with a great, layered performance.
What these comic guys don't take into account is that, even the fucking comics are inconsistent with the characters and stories! All those fucking universes, the different versions, who gives a shit? Tell the story and make the movie you want to tell.
>>63650803
That's what makes me laugh the most about comic autists. The characters within those shitty stories aren't even consistent from one issue to the next much less across decades.
>>63650670
Capeshit offers a weird brand loyalty for studios that other sources don't possess. For a fanboy, the cape being the correct colour makes the movie good. Actually making a good movie is secondary.
You unironically get grown men aligning themselves with movie studios in flame wars against other studios that are producing different capeshit.
World building is so important in getting an audience to accept the ridiculous shit on screen. It's why Batman Begins seems to suit the capeshit sub genre far better than TDK or TDKR. Nolan seemed to put a bit of effort into creating his Gotham. The city in BB didn't just feel like a Chicago stand in.
>>63651389
yeah after that he got so fucking arrogant and lazy Gotham was just Chicago. No imagination, no style, no fucking effort whatsoever. Seriously when I think of TDK and especially TDKR all I can think of are headache inducing graytone environments. I honestly think the fucking plane scene as the most color in TDKR.
>tfw Tim Burton gives you a femdom fetish at a young age and now you let women put you in a chastity cage
I didn't stand a fucking chance.
LAWN DART!
>>63651600
Why does he lick his lips to get a taste of Catwoman's SPIT after she tongues him?!? Disgusting.
>>63648127
what the fuck
Great movie I agree. My fave batman film.
>>63647907
If this movie and poster were released today, there would be orange over 50% of it.
burton's batmans were the goat capeshit easily
I really like this scene from 1989 batman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyEs0ZSsAh0
>>63650703
>Darkman
>Rocketeer
So fucking good. 90s capeshit was the fucking best.
Really wish Burton had directed The Shadow instead of the shitty one we got
The 1989 Batman basically WAS the Shadow for the first half
>>63651687
>HEY BATMAN PUSHED THE PRINCESS
>>63652648
Darkman was supposed to be The Shadow, but Raimi couldnt get the rights.
