Seems to be another solid effort by Howard. Why did it fail to make money, /tv/?
http://variety.com/2015/film/box-office/box-office-in-the-heart-of-the-sea-flops-with-11-million-debut-1201660029
>>63630720
Movie looks like shit. See OPs poster for evidence
>>63630720
Didn't the survivors resort to Cannibalism? Didn't they draw straws and then kill the youngest one just to have something to eat? Didn't they all go insane and die soon after rescue?
>pg-13
>ron howard
>act 1 act 2a act 2b act 3 formulaic crap
>ron howard
Oh it's a movie about an adult subject directed by the king of blase cinema? I'm SHOCKED it did poorly.
>>63630720
Because it's not cape shit or a sequel
>>63631069
It's based in a story that most people are familiar with, it was (or should have been) a safe bet.
>>63630720
Because women don't understand it.
>>63631089
Are you sure? In "2015", are there many people who read Moby Dick?
>>63630987
Did you even watch it?
>>63631094
Aye lmao
>>63630720
Because literally every actor on the poster has a faggoty name.
Nobody watched a movie because they were insulted by the movie poster questioning their intelligence. Everyone knows whales aren't that big. At best it's false advertising.
>>63631106
Yes, kid.
because i could just read moby dick
>>63630720
The reason is pretty simple, anon.
This month everybody's saving up for Star Wars.
>>63631106
This guy is lying >>63631144. Americans are deeply uncultured nowadays in general. If they have a copy of Moby Dick it's just for showing off or paper weight.
>>63630720
>quiet opening a week before Star Wars
Gee I fucking wonder.
>>63631122
FUnd a sequel ffs
>>63631201
This. I literally gave up writing because of the sheer number of people who told me, at times with actual pride, "I'm not a reader."
>>63631118
No but my opinion is just as valid as anyone elses.
>>63631252
Only when discussing with others who have not seen it. I have seen it and you are largely mistaken. Fag.
>>63631252
NO IT ISN'T
I guess you're memeing, but this asinine ideology that every opinion is valid and matters is a crucial angle of the disaster that is the "millennial generation"
Saw the trailer, the CGI was really off putting.
>>63631201
>americans
lmao alright kid, time to go to bed, the vast majority of people don't read anything beyond what they're given in college as far as classics go or what's on the shelf at barnes and nobles, this isn't some US centric thing.
>>63631237
not like you had a chance with that mindset.
There is a great Moby Dick movie already, why bother?
>>63631318
Relax Baby Boomer, I'm allowed to not like something.
>>63631307
>>63631318
The joke is no one saw the movie so his opinion is as valid as anyone's
>>63631375
Master in Commander? Looks boring.
>>63630720
this is a severe exaggeration of how big the whale actually is
but yeah this movie goes to shit once they get out to sea and Captain Twat makes every bad decision possible
also, despite it all(the makeup, acting, etc), i never got the sense of doom that the film was attempting to portray. it just didn't hit me like it should have.
this is yet another example of how a movie tries to be something it's not because the director lacks vision
>>63631410
ebin
>>63631410
It is, don't bother with it. And the plot doesn't make any sense, anyways.
Is the difference between the biggest whale that exists and the one in the poster something like it?
>>63631467
Sorry. Something LIKE THIS?
>>63630720
Why do they make the whale look that big? That's just fucking retarded, it's impossible for something to be that big.
Like, fuck, if it were that size then how the fuck would they survive anything? Even if it used it's tail to splash the water, the waves alone would tip that ship and send everyone overboard, the whale wouldn't even have to come in contact with the ship.
>>63630720
Because it was marketed poorly making it seem like something in the same boat as Dracula Untold and Maleficent.
Shitty release window.
>>63631496
>Why do they make the whale look that big? That's just fucking retarded
He's asking about its flop debut and you talk about the size of the whale? How fucking retarded are you?
>>63631496
I just did some measuring. I've used the whaling ship, the Essex, as an example of the ship size. The length of the Essex is 26.7 meters, and you can fit ten of those into the length of the part of the whale, who we'll call Moby Dick, we can see in the poster.
That means that what we can see of Moby Dick is the length of 267 fucking meters. And that's only about 50% of Moby Dick, so if we double that we get five hundred and thirty fucking four meters. Now, the largest living mammal is the Blue Whale, which sits at 30 meters in length.
When we compare Moby DIck to the Blue Whale, he is about 17.8 times larger than the Blue Whale. That is just fucking stupid. It's impossible to have something that large even fucking exist if it was on land.
>>63631567
Fuck off, I'm discussing how stupidly large the whale is.
I think Warner is going for biggest number of 100 million plus flops in a year or something.
>>63631656
Even if I fuck off your argument is invalid, I'm sry about it
>>63631691
How is it invalid?
>>63631730
Do I need to make myself clear again? Ok.
If he's asking about how could the film flop so badly and you randomly states something about "Whales size" that's 100% invalid argument. Since you're here why not talking about why they ate the black guy first, racism?
>>63631766
Are you a fucking autist? Like, literally?
Threads about a film englobe all the aspects of the damn thing. It always worked this way, somebody puts a question, a line of dialogue, a meme, and it evolves into a whole thread of the most derailing in a good sense- topics.
>>63631656
Here's a representation of the size difference. Top is Moby, bottom is a Blue Whale. Fucking ridiculous, that is unimaginably large.
>>63631766
I'm discussing the film, just like OP is. The only thing different is that he's discussing the films financial issues, whereas I'm discussing the the absurdity the whale's size.
>>63630720
Has it released in China yet? It can still make a bunch of money even if it didn't do so well at release.
Ron Howard is the vanilla ice cream of filmmakers. I hate him and his boring ass flicks so much.
>>63631999
Fuck you, fake Satan.
Howard is bland, but then, he's one of the best blanders around:
>Splash
>Parenthood
>Apollo 13
>A Beautiful Mind
>Frost/Nixon
>Rush
And I will stop at 6, because checking his filmography, I realized how much more interesting it is than I remembered
>>63632087
All I see are shitty movies that you've listed.
>>63632279
ok. bye
it's like howard woke up one day and decided to do a moby dick movie so he called his producers, they gave him a budget, and then he shat this out a month later
Movies at sea are too drab and dull for me. They immediately put me off. I haven't even seen Jaws.
>>63630720
> not having a black man play the lead character
It's like they don't even know it's 2015
>>63632523
I wish we could get a good Moby Dick movie.
>>63632559
Black guy didn't die first, there were more then one black character with a name and they weren't a stereotype, I think that is enough progressiveness.
>There are people who saw this, and didn't realise it was a true story.
>It's because of people like this, we needed the flash forward scenes added in since March to give them a hint
The audience as always is fucking stupid.
>>63632887
I don't blame them, I wouldn't believe a story if they depicted the whale to be as big as it is in the poster.
>>63633151
Fuck I hate that poster
>>63631410
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>>63632887
>all of these people talking about a fucking movie posters accuracy
I saw it last night in iMax and got the vibe that some people didn't understand it was based on a true story. Otherwise, I thought it was pretty solid. Would've liked to have seen more whaling and sailing, as well as trying to survive but the movie was already at 2 hours. Maybe there will be a directors cut
>>63633318
How big is the whale in the movie compared to the poster.
This movie fucking rocked, this is probably the weirdest example ive ever seen of mass critics being dead wrong. Audiences loving it. I wonder if they offended the critix somehow
>>63634462
Do you realize it's being a HUGE flop?
>>63634571
hahaha I get it because that's what the whale did in the movie and created a big splash
>>63634706
Actually, no, I haven't even seen the film, so I wouldn't know. But the guy said the "audiences are loving it". And it's being a massive failure to make money, so, clearly, the audiences aren't loving it.
>>63634833
the millennials arent going but the boomers are, and rating it an 8/10, so basically the smart people are loving it while the kids stay home making ironic jokes to each other
>>63634833
it being a commercial flop doesn't necessarily mean that the people did pay to see it didn't enjoy it.
>>63631496
Because it's a movie and not real life.
>>63632592
>movie about a white whale
>not a movie about a beautiful, strong, transitioning whale of color
>2015
>>63630987
This exactly
>>63631496
Why did they make Godzilla so big, Godzilla isn't that big in real life!
>>63635440
Because Godzilla isn't real. Sperm Whales are, and they made this one stupidly large.
I suppose Moby Dick would work better as 10-episode HBO miniseries
>>63636684
starring your mom
>>63636684
That might actually work out pretty well. Although, there are so many chapters that discuss lots of different things that if they were removed so that the 10 episodes only had plot then it would take away what made the book so good.
If they had some episodes which were just chapters like Cetology, then people would complaint that it's ether too boring or doesn't drive the plot forward.
Maybe a 25 episode season might work. Each episode is an hour long and covers about 5 or so chapters, depending on how plot-driven the chapter is, with the jog but non-plot driver chapters like Moby Dick and Cetology mixed in with smaller non-plot driver chapters.
Damn, now I'm starting to daydream about how I'd set up a Moby Dick TV show. Thanks for that anon.
>>63637519
Fuck, *long, not jog.
>It's another movie starring Thor
HOLY FUCKING SHIT JUST KILL ME ALREADY
should have released it for its original date instead of holding it back for awards season
>>63637579
What's wrong with Thor?
>In The Heart of The Sea 2015 HD-CAM XViD HQMic AC3-CPG
GO GO GO!
>>63637519
I'm glad for bringing the idea to you. It's quite amazing that in 160 years since publication, there isn't a encompassing adaptation. It's natural that the Ahab vs. Whale business gets the most attention, but there's a masterpiece- in series or film- waiting to be filmed with that book.
>>63638195
Okay for anyone super desperate, but I've avoided cams as a policy for more than a decade. Gotta keep it that way.
>>63634315
Maybe the size of the Essex. He smashes a couple of the whaling boats, but the big deal is that he's just super aggressive and rams the Essex, and ends up knocking down the mast.
He also follows them.
It had a terrible release window. It should have stayed in March. It's literally going up against Meme games part 4 and Star Memes. Do you really think the teenage and young adult demographic which is filled with narcissistic retards is going to see those or the new Ron Howard flick? I like Ron Howard by the way.
>>63630720
I dunno OP. I like Howard, Apollo 13 is one of my favorite movies. This one just didn't seem to have a lot of appeal to general audiences.
>>63631410
You're gonna swab the fucking deck for that mate
People don't want to watch the Whale die?
>>63631201
Are the memes true? Are americans 'dumb'? Shouldn't their schools be the best in the world, etc?
Asian country asking.
It hasn't opened in a lot of places yet for some reason.
They held a premiere in London on Dec 2 but the UK release won't happen until Dec 26. The US release didn't happen until 10 days after the Australian release.
Seriously, what the fuck. The marketing and distribution of this film is a shambles. I'm so mad I won't even watch it in the cinema.
>>63630720
I wanted to see it, although not that strongly, but I didnt know it was out, might check it out.
I suppose my example would be common.
Why didn't he just throw the lance?
>>63641534
I hope so. I'm rooting for this film's ssuccess. Wouldn't mind a wave of 'seashit' with big monsters and wretched men.
>>63631351
True, but americans are particulary bad. Also, in other countries we actually learn about shit besides the names of former US presidents. And we just don't bail on teaching scientific fact just because some parents doesn't believe in them.
>>63631318
>this asinine ideology that every opinion is valid and matters is a crucial angle of the disaster that is the "millennial generation"
This is not a particularly current notion among the so-called millennials.
>>63632543
This is weird. Why? I'm not trying to shit on you or anything, it's just... why?
>>63637579
What's wrong with Hemsworth? He's ok.
>>63632543
>I haven't even seen Jaws.
Jesus fucking christ
>>63640123
Why on earth would the american school system be the best in the world? It's a system where parents can pick and choose what their and other peoples children learn based on their own religious views. There's a reason for every stereotype out there you know.
That;s pretty sad. There's a theater where I live that had it on four screens including IMAX, with that kind of rollout they must have thought they had a hit on their hands.
>>63630720
it was pretty underwhelming, really ugly color grading too
>>63640123
Depends on where you are in America.
Alot of areas have certain "cultures", and these cultures tend to drive off business, which leads to less funding for the schools & less opportunities for the kids.
Although the K-12 school system itself doesn't teach much about world history post WW2, and at least 15%-25% of english/literature & US history classes K-12 is about slavery or oppression, at least back in 2012.
>Visually meh, some scenes scream "green screen"
>Cliche shit, Chris Somethingworth pretty much standing triumphantly with his hands on his hips
>Chris Somethingworth
Other than that it wasn't bad.
I'd give it a 6.5/10 overall, it was reasonably entertaining but very forgettable.
>>63630720
I think there was some confusion in the beginning. Half a dozen people I know referred to it as "The new Moby Dick movie", which, nobody wants to watch due to it being forced reading in school.
So, general overall consensus is that it isn't better than Rush?
>>63631656
This whole post is wrong.
I saw the movie and the whale is nowhere near that size. It's actually fucking said in the movie that it's about 30 meters long, but during the attack scene, it looks like it's 1.6 to 2 times as big as the ship, which would put it at 50 meters MAXIMUM, which is far bigger than a normal spermwhale, but you know, that's kind of the point of Moby Dick.
>>63631467
>>63631481
In the actual movie it's actually way smaller than on that poster. Bt it's still really fucking big.
One of the few people in this thread that actually saw the movie reporting in.
I'm a big Moby Dick fan so I'm pretty biased, but even so I thought the movie was alright. It wasn't bad enough to merit financial disaster, but I think the problem is it doesn't appeal to a wide enough audience. Like someone earlier mentioned, it is PG13 for something with dark subject matter. I think the movie would have done a lot better with someone else as the director. The script needed a lot of revising, especially the sentimental crap from Chase and his wife; not done away with entirely, just reworked into less Hollywood cliche. Chris Hemsworth is also the most obvious miscast in the world for this role, yet they went with him anyway? I guess to try and collect the younger demographic, but this movie should have been aimed at 30+ since unfortunately most people in their 20s and younger don't even know what Moby Dick is (in America, at least). Hemsworth lacks the charisma and actual acting ability to pull off this kind of role. Fassbender would have been a great lead, or possibly Michael Shannon, hell, I would've moved Cillian Murphy over to the main role instead of Second Mate.
It just wasn't gritty enough. It's a very dark tale and I didn't feel the desperation that I should have. The problem with the budget was due to them having to shoot a movie on water, which is expensive. So it's understandable they cast Hemsworth and try to draw the younger crowd to mop up some of that cost. Still a 6/10 movie, and I definitely enjoyed watching it.
>>63631656
Protip: that's not the Essex in the poster. It's one of the whaleboats that they affixed sails to after the Essex sank. That's why the whale looks too large to people.
>>63642972
This exactly.
Those boats are like 3.5 to 4 meters in the movie, so that would put the whale at around 40 meters.
Complaining about the size of the whale on the poster is like complaining about Anakin Skywalker's shadow being shaped like Darth Vader on that TPM poster.
Movies about boats or set on them perform terribly, the only exception being Titanic.
>>63632543
Jaws is the only movie to ever truly frighten me
Is it just not a big movie time for people this time of year? Everything has seemed to bomb except Goosebumps.
Went to the cast and crew screening of it 2 weeks ago. It's a 6/10 film, it really needed another rewrite to give more polish to the dialogue and relationships between the characters. Cinematography, sets and effects are good.
The main proble m with the film isAs the main character points out at the end of the film "this is the story I shall base Moby Dick on". So it has elements of the story and what makes Moby Dick good, but underplays them
Also fuck whoever decided to add those 6 random shots at foot level that look like they were shot on a fucking iphone by a student. They really take you out of the film.
>>63642972
Protip: Its is the Essex because you can see the whaleboats on its side.
What so many morons here dont understand that this poster had never the intention to make us belive Moby Dick is so big its the just one artistic way to describe the loneliness of being on the open sea and facing a leviathan like moby dick.
No one with a sane mind expected this to be some kind of monster movie.
And I was thinking for months it would be a major awards contender...
This movie wasnt successfull because there was no Gregory Peck as Capatain ahab around.
And yes i know that movie was about the real incident that influenced the Book, but still.
I missed something like this in that movie:
https://youtu.be/gLvU_UWnlJw?t=1591
