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Who won?
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>>63616730
Not that city
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>>63616730
Neither. Another no stakes pointless battle for no reason other than fan service
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>>63616784
>Another no stakes pointless battle

How were there no stakes?

How was it pointless?
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>>63616730
The Thing
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>>63616730
The men collecting the shekels
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disney jews
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why didn't tony just immediately pick him up and fly away from the population? "computer, which direction should I fly to get away from densely populated areas?" but no, he chose to engage with a rage monster that is able to stand toe-to-toe with gods with only his brute strength and even when he had the chance to fly away from the population he decided to fly in a building
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>>63616919
What were the stakes? Getting Hulk to sleep?
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>>63616730
We all lost because capeshit is a cultural cancer
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>>63616730

Disney won
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The viewers Lol
Because that was HELLA AWESOME :D
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>>63617143
>What were the stakes?

Getting the Hulk to keep from killing someone.
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>>63617143
Creating animosity towards heroes that will be a key point in the creation of the Registration Act which plays into the events of Civil War
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>>63617154

Good because our culture is shit.

Can't wait to end this.
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>>63617169
The Hulk's never killed anyone before, why would he now?
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>>63617169
Which they clearly didn't accomplish, so what was the point?
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>>63616730
Iron Man.

Hulk was angry and wanted to smash as much shit as he could. Iron Man didn't let him smash as much shit as he possibly could. Simple as this.
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>>63617220
Because he's never been mind-controlled before. Don't ask stupid questions.

>>63617227
They did accomplish it, the Hulk didn't kill anyone.
And if if they didn't accomplish it, the point would have been to try.
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>>63617273
>There are never any consequences in these movies
>Yeah but this time he's under MIND CONTROL
Wow I'm at the edge of my seat.
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>>63617273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFtid9wUmaQ
>Not a single person died in this scene
Bullshit
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>>63617165
>HELLA AWESOME
No.

It was HELLA F*CKING EPIC!
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>>63617267
Yet he contributed to helping him smash said shit. Watch again
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>>63616730
Superman destroys parts of a city while fighting a super sayain bad guy, he's a murderer

Tony destroys major parts of a city fighting his own team member, no one cares

OKAY THEN
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The fight was interrupted but I think by then you could tell that they were even except for Hulk having the edge in endurance, and that Stark would have lost when he ran out of spare parts.
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>>63616730
Iron man won, but it was a cheap shot as Hulk was getting conscious about what he did.
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>>63617639
>Implying that Superman even tried to save anyone during the fight.
>Implying that Iron Man didn't save people while fighting the Hulk.
>Also implying that the destruction made by Iron Man and Hulk Fight was even close from the mess that superman did.
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>>63617594
But, see, he would've smashed even MORE shit had Tony not intervened.
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>>63617443
>Iron Man punches him dozens of times with no effect
>But this punch knocks him out because we need the scene to end
Fucking capeshit.
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>>63617639
>no one cares
>in the same movie, they had to go into hiding in Hawkeye's house
>in the next movie, the population got so tired of the Avengers bullshit, they want the government to regulate and control all superhumans
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>>63617811
New guy who literally became a hero 1 day ago vs experienced team who let a city fall out of the sky
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>>63616730
Hulk is one of the most OP characters in the marvel universe. its like, him and Doctor Strange for the bigger Deus Ex Machina.
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>>63617143
Same anon

Containing the Hulk before he destroys the city/kills people. The whole scene is Tony trying to get Hulk out of there and failing that limit the destruction as much as possible (the controlled demolition)

And it wasn't pointless because that's the event that causes Banner to go into hiding. (and to Asgard)
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>>63617443

>"dude no one died!"

1 trillion dollars in property damage
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>>63617855
>New guy who literally became a hero 1 day ago.
And that has been training and evolving to become a hero almost his entire life.
Or do you think that he didn't train martial arts and power control, that he didn't study, that he didn't seek his limit?
C'mmon, if Man Of Steel superman became a hero without any preparation he's a fucking idiot.
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>>63617839

Hulk wasn't raging mad (he was revving up though)
the calmer Hulk is the weaker he is. Tony suckered Hulk when he was feeling sad about the #Blacklivesmatter protest.
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>>63616784
Other than saving the city from the hulk, yeah.
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the audience
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>>63617839
He wasn't paying attention to the fight anymore, he was calming down and realizing what he just did.
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>>63617227
Cause -> effect. I know you're midly retarded, but try to put some weight on it.
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>>63617220
>The Hulk's never killed anyone

He killed plenty in the Incredible Hulk.
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>>63618014
>feeling sad about the #Blacklivesmatter

Poor, poor Hulk :(
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>>63617639
>still making up excuses for man of shit
Shut the fuck up, you OCD retard. That movie was vomit in celluloid form.
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>>63617594
Yes, as a means to stop shit from being further smashed. As I stated before, Starks goal was stop smashing of shit, even if it meant smashing some shit. He did at least buy the building he smashed. He's trying to do better!
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>>63617639
>Superman destroys parts of a city while fighting a super sayain bad guy, he's a murderer
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>Tony destroys major parts of a city fighting his own team member, no one cares

Tony actively tried to get Hulk away from people. MoS never did.

Tony was able to use his intellect to end the situation before it got completely off the rails. MoS didn't.

Tony actually gave a shit about what was going on around him.

Tony Stark is a better hero than Superman.
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>>63618210
>MoS never did.

he did. He shoots Zod into space.
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>>63618210


Thank you anon

Common sense you tards!
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>>63617443
God this was my first time watching anything from AoU but it was so irritating how they kept interrupting the scene just to show Ironman's face saying some quirky dialogue. Like just have him say it while fighting. Or just don't include it all.
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>>63618256

And never tries again. Never makes mention of the destruction he brought. Never tries to save ANYONE in that city. You know, the basic shit Superman should do.
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>>63618063
Oh, did I hurt your fee-fee's by insulting your movie? :(
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>>63618256
Right, he snapped his neck at a space church. How could you retards forget? Man of Steel was actually a great movie and Superman wasn't out of character at all.
My god, I'm surrounded by plebs and mouthbreathers.
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>>63618381
>your movie
The only idiot here retarded enough to take ownership of a movie he had no hand in is you, garbage boy. Shit, you could have picked a better movie, like Catwoman.
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>>63618405
>I'm surrounded by plebs and mouthbreathers.
That's what you get for watching capeshit
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>>63618460
>retarded
>idiot
>retarded
>garbage boy

Nice ad hom
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>>63618054
/thread.
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>>63617443
I'll never get over how terrible the finish to this fight was.

It should have ended with Hulk nearly killing Tony. Then stopping with the realization that he was about to kill hisome friend. There would've been so much more emotional weight to it.

Instead we got:

>Sucker punch
>Fade to black

Such a shitty end to an otherwise entertaining fight.
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>>63618645

Honestly it's the best (only) way to end the fight with Hulkbuster winning.
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>>63616730
WHO LOST?
YOU DECIDE!
EEEEEPIC-
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>>63617846

This anon pays attention.
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>>63617639
Stuff like the Hulk vs. Hulkbuster fight will be the kind of thing that makes the population demand a way for the government to control superhero activity in the MCU. It's actually the whole premise of the next Captain America movie.
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>>63616919
>stakes
>in a Marvel movie

You ok bro?
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>>63618321
It's a problem with most cape movies, actors who play masked superheroes still want their faces to be seen even during action scenes. The last Judge Dredd was a rare exception.
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>>63618927
>You ok bro?

How are there any stakes in any capeshit/action/fantasy/franchise(like Bond) movie?

You know the hero is going to win going into the theater.

Probably Why I'm most excited for Civil War.
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>>63616730
I will forever hate Joss whedon for absolutely fucking this movie up beyond repair. How!?!?!?
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>>63617811

M8 Superman could had stopped hulk in one hit, Zod would had destroyed Tony, is not the same.

Superman in the movie flies at 900 times the speed of sound, that's 900 times faster than quicksilver, the powerlevel os zod was just too high.
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>>63617846

>enhanced individuals

Are Man Heels considered enhancements?
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apollo creed
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>>63616730
HULK WIN NOT PUNY METAL MAN

(retard strength intensifies)
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The Hulk is considered the most powerful being in the Marvel Universe.


>he Hulk grows stronger the more energy he absorbs. So, the more he fights, the stronger he gets. He eventually reaches a point where he can destroy cities with a single step (Worldbreaker Hulk). His leaps have launched him into low orbit, and he can expel air at a high enough rate to knock down forests. His stamina also grows as he gets stronger, so it is nigh unlimited.

>he Hulk's skin is so strong that only adamantium and vibranium can pierce his skin. He withstood direct blasts from Galactus, the strongest of Hercules' blows, and heats of one million degrees Fahrenheit. His healing power allows him to withstand all diseases, and he can heal nearly instantly from most attacks.

>The Hulk's mind is as strong as his body. He has withstood the most powerful psychic forces in the universe, including Prof. X, Dr. Strange, and Thanos

>The Hulk is something of a "gamma battery" and can fire off blasts of the radiation with devastating effect. As Worldbreaker Hulk, his body was so powerful that the radiation just fired out of him without control.
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>>63619523
>muh superman
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>>63616730

Is it just me or does the setup for Civil War make no sense?

Isn't the cause of it basically that Iron Man agrees that walking WMD superheroes should be regulated and registered like a reasonable and sane individual, but this triggers Captain America for some reason?

Considering there are maybe like 10 other superheroes in this universe besides the Avengers and they're all high profile individuals anyway, why does telling the government that you already work for what your address is matter?

Also why is America's iconic hero apparently so against the rule of law and order that he starts a civil war over it?

>inb4 he makes a Hitler analogy
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>>63621947
>Forced to register yourself as a weapon and be tracked by the government at all times
>'this triggers Captain America for some reason'
>walking WMD superheroes should be regulated and registered like a reasonable and sane individual
>Not knowing why the captain is throwing shits about this


Damn, Anon. How can't you understand cape shit?
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>>63617839
>punches a dozen times with no effect
>later gets punched and hurt

Happens in basically any fight, just because one punch doesn't look like it hurts a boxer, doesn't mean they can't get rocked and stopped. I didn't even like the scene that much but that's fairly justifiable.
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>>63617128
He tried but Bruce just broke the rocket and flew in the direction of a building.
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>>63616762
the cost of damages to Tony's armors probably cost more than that entire African city
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>>63616730
disney's pockets but nothing else won.
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>>63617316
He feels guilty so he's going away for like 3 movies. That's the consequence.
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>>63617839
Mind control wore off.
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>>63618068
non-canon
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>>63619127
It's not that bad. Needs multiple views to properly appreciate.
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>>63617811
>Implying that Superman even tried to save anyone during the fight.
he saved the entire planet you fuck.
>Implying that Iron Man didn't save people while fighting the Hulk.
who cares? hulk would smash a few cars, then fuck off and pass out.
>Also implying that the destruction made by Iron Man and Hulk Fight was even close from the mess that superman did.
Superman and zod smashed ONE building. and not even the whole thing.

zods machine is what demolished half a city.

christ, do you people even watch the movies?


>>63618013
he literally didnt, he was working odd jobs, and just living and laying low.
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>>63618116
still better than the majority of MCU movies.
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>>63622168
Except it is. The general from Incredible Hulk will be back for Civil War.
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>>63621947
Is this Civil War going to be the prequel to the Incredibles?
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>>63622248
>still better than the majority of MCU movies.

No
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>>63617443
holy shit the cgi is shit
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>>63617143
Hulk left the planet because of it
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>>63622351
I'm a marvel guy but fuck off MoS was criminally underrated.
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>>63618210
>Tony actively tried to get Hulk away from people. MoS never did.

Supes was fighting people stronger and tougher than him.

>Tony was able to use his intellect to end the situation before it got completely off the rails. MoS didn't.

Well sorry supes was limited to blue collar jobs and a kansas farm boy education, not sure what we can use a tractor for when dealing with demigods.

>Tony actually gave a shit about what was going on around him.

Because Supes totally didnt destroy the terraform machine and save those people form zods ray and prevent zod from just flat out massacreign an entire city the best he could.
sure that building got cut in half by zods eye beams, but what the fuck do you think he's suppossed to do then?

Stop zod, thats what you do.
this isnt the hulk who is just trying to let off steam, this is a villain who lost his planet and wants to MASSACRE ours until he dies.


>Tony Stark is a better hero than Superman.
Tony stark has an entire team, years of experience, billions to his name, ect.

Supes saved the world on his first get go and has literally jack shit for previous hero work and even less shit in terms of resources.
oh wait, he has corn.

fuck, im giving supes a pass because Zod wasnt on his team and he stopped the asshole killing the world despite everyone treating him like shit.
What 5,000 people got killed in an alien invasion of being immune to 30mm depleted uranium rounds? Well hell im not holding it against you, aint like we're doing better.

Also Considering starks roll in civil war......mmmmm.....
fuck stark. I like Supes.
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>>63622056
its called being punch-drunk
thing is, for the Hulk, all his tissue (including brain) are abmormally tough and there is a rage healing factor as well
balls out Hulk can only be stopped by Superman copies and Sky Fathers
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>>63622351
that's a real nice cherry you got there
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>>63622356

cgi is much better than typical Snyder shit desu.
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>>63622438
>I'm a marvel guy

And? mos is garbage.
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>>63621947
>but this triggers Captain America for some reason?
Watch the trailer again, the sequence of events is this
>sokovia accords go into effect
>cap says fine that's the law, I quit
>humans enforcing the accords put a kill order on bucky by blaming him for an UN attack
>cap has to fight Tony/the government while proving Bucky's innocence

Cap just wants a trial for his bro, bro
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>>63622500
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>>63618371
>Never makes mention of the destruction he brought.
Supes did very little of that aside form the gas station and that one building which was mostly zods fault.

>>63618977
because Karl fucking Urban is the most underrated actor of the last 2 decades.


>>63621863
In allstar superman, couldnt superman literally lift the equivalent weight of multiple earths and make STARS in his hand?

also hulk absorbing energy makes no sense. You lose energy in a fist fight, you cant absorb the kinetic energy of a blow to use. plus his exertion fo force would diminish the effects because throwing a punch only gives off energy.
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Did anyone like Hulk from 2003? Or was I the only one
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>>63622618
>Supes did very little

The entire invasion is his fault.
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>>63621947
>Isn't the cause of it basically that Iron Man agrees that walking WMD superheroes should be regulated and registered like a reasonable and sane individual, but this triggers Captain America for some reason?
because its unconstitutional.

you cant register a HUMAN who isnt a sex offender.

hell we dont even register guns on this country, you want to regulate a person for power they were just born with?

hello?! due process! rule of law?!
You even said it, Capn supports the constitution as the SUPREME law so all laws that violate that are not legitimate.
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>>63617588
I was on the edge of my seat the entire time
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>>63621947
>>63622055
>>63622689


cops and soldiers have to be registered and accounted for

to live in the US you technically have to be registered as a legal citizen and accounted for


and vigilantism is illegal


Civil War in the comics was retarded but the movie seems to be changing it to something else, thank god
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>>63622351
dude fuck rotten tomatos and that bullshit.

You think those memfest cookie cutter shit balls of mass produced marvel movies are up to par with a movie where the directors are in control and break the mold?

i bet my wallet if people didnt think supes was some boy scout no kill fag from the cartoon and understood his evolution like what batman got, MOS would be in the 70s easy.

but nope, everyone expected Reeves or just gave the movie shit because people dont like superman for one retard reason or another.

man of steel is fine movie. Not the best, but damn well more effort and uniqueness than those MCU pieces of shit.

and best of all, no quips and moments where the film took time to shut the fuck up and let us enjoy a scene.
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>>63622548
so its literally nothing like civil war the comic?

>>63622681
No it wasnt.

zods fault.
Dont victim blame. You dont blame the house owner for shooting the criminal rapist breaking in, you blame the criminal rapist who broke in.
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>>63622859
>dude fuck rotten tomatos and that bullshit.

Can't argue with facts desu.

mos is shit. The score is deserved.
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>>63622843
>cops and soldiers have to be registered and accounted for
they literally work for the government.
But a regular dude with a gun? nope.

>to live in the US you technically have to be registered as a legal citizen and accounted for

not really, you can be a no name hobo or live off grid. You dont have to have shit.

>and vigilantism is illegal
no it isnt.
only vigilantism thats without the due process of law.
infact their a legal precedent for it, Citizens arrest.
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>>63622911
>No it wasnt.

Yes it was. Went snooping around. Almost got everyone killed. Would be fine if he felt sorry about it but... It's a Snyder flick after all.
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>>63622506

This fight is gorgeous on my 50"" 31gb rip.
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>>63622843
But all superheroes aren't soldiers in the marvel universe. They should be treated like the rest of the normies: Given a SS#, and forced to pay their taxes before the end of April. Forcing the registration of individuals and continuously tracking/monitoring them in a big-brother dystopian-esque way, of course isn't going to make Captain America happy; especially when he's for the freedom and liberty of the individual.

Civil war wasn't that bad at all. There are arguably worse Marvel stories to adapt into a movie.

Oh, and Also Vigilantism is pretty much legal in the Marvel Universe.
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>>63622918
thats not a fact.

learn what a fact is.
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>>63622911
>so its literally nothing like civil war the comic?
It makes both sides seem right instead of both seeming wrong, so yes it's nothing like the comic
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>>63622984
Why is it his fault?
He didnt know zod was out there, and he had every right to snoop for his own origins.

You're just being a cunt.
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>>63622689

> you cant register a HUMAN who isnt a sex offender.
> everyone has rights except bad people

What.

>hello?! due process! rule of law?!

Back the fuck off ..?!

You are making some pretty amateur jurisprudential mistakes. Like, a ban on speech could be constitutional, so long as its not made on the basis of the content of that speech. Defending the country is within the powers of the US government and therefore they can do what it takes to defend the country, and so long as a discriminatory policy against very dangerous individuals was made on the basis that they are very dangerous.

I dont know. I only pretend to be a lawyer on the internet, but I do find the law to be fascinating and I read a ton of it and in the comic book scenario we are working with its not as blatantly unconstitutional as you are making it out to be.
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>>63616784
>no stakes huurrrrr

Sorry Dc.uck, but just because man of murder literally made no no attempts to save people doesn't mean you van project that onto aou. Tony went out of his fucking way to save people during that fight. You know, being a HERO.

The stakes were the cops and innocent people in danger of getting crushed by hulk.
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>>63623149
well true, but thats still an incredibly shit reason.

could have easily just pulled strings as capn and gone to a senator and demanded a trial for a former soldier who isnt confirmed for pulling shit.

its literally the biggest fucking non issue.

unless they're gonna use it as a parallel to criticize Obama's drone policies and murder of US citizens without due process, then i'll take everything back.

but they wont.
Hell Dark knight had more commentary than that.
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>>63617128
>>63616784
>>63617143
>>63617220
>>63617227
>>63617639
>>63618927
>>63622356

kek @ the butt mad dc fans who want to hate marvel as much as they can but deep down know it's amazing XD
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>>63623156
>He didnt know

So involuntary genocide?

He is still held responsible. Maybe he should have had an uncle Ben instead of that shit father in mos.

"With great power, motherfucker."
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>>63623174
Sex offenders got on a registry through due process fo law and still have a 90% repeat offense rate even after mandatory therapy.

>>63623174
>Like, a ban on speech could be constitutional, so long as its not made on the basis of the content of that speech
no you can only restrict certain circumstance regarding speech.

shouting fire in a movie theater in order to cite panic and harm is a violation fo others rights.
However pulling the fire arm and alerting people to the fire in a controlled manner is not.

Saying "i wish the president would drop dead"
is legal but
"im gonna kill the president" isnt.

speech is only restricted when its a cause of harm to other or impedes rights.
hence why trials typically have gag orders, to protect the other rights of people at trial.

thats still under due process of law.

>>63623227
>Sorry Dc.uck, but just because man of murder literally made no no attempts to save people doesn't mean you van project that onto aou. Tony went out of his fucking way to save people during that fight. You know, being a HERO.
>The stakes were the cops and innocent people in danger of getting crushed by hulk.
so why did they put the hulk there to begin with?
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>>63617128
HE DID TRY THAT YOU FUCKING RETARD. Did you miss the part where tonys armour wrapped around hulks arm, locking it in place, and then tony attempting to immediately fly away with hulk in tow in order to get him out of the city, but hulk broke free?

No, I bet you didn't even watch the fucking movie, you tremendous DC.UCK
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>>63616730

Hulk should have won, as a human can’t fit in the Hulkbuster armor as shown.

Look where Tony’s head is then imagine where his limbs would be; his legs wouldn’t fit into the armored suit’s legs, they’d be somewhere near the waist and he wouldn’t be able to walk, and his arms don’t fit into the armored suit’s arms either.

The armor isn’t wearable.
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>>63623366
Why did who put hulk where you retard? Did you actually watch the movie? Banner was hiding on an airplane minding his own business, when the witch came along and mind controlled him into a frenzy.
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>>63623398
He took Iron Monger's design but with his armor in it.
It's 100% wearable
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>>63623299
>So involuntary genocide?
if the circumstances are to clear a race of people whose only way to live is to kill others with rights, then killing them is merely an act of self defense.
Supes gave them a chance.
they had multiple chances.
plus it was his own race, so fuck it.

>He is still held responsible.
No he isnt.
he didnt tell zod to come to earth.
he didnt know zod or of zod.

from a legal, mroal, and ethical standpoint supes isnt reliable to anything higher than maby a few civil suits regarding property damage.

everything else...CLEAN.
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>>63623434
and they didnt have anything to sedate or calm him in these circumstances?

was the hulk buster all they had?

>>63623398
>>63623437
iron man 40k
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>>63618321
>>63618977
>>ugh i hate when there are characters getting in the way of my movies
seeing a face helps the audience relate with the character you autists
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>>63623398
It's a small mech (like a jaeger from pacific rim, but smaller) not a "suit", you massive imbecile.

If you question its realism, then you need to question every other mech in every other movie/anime/comic/manga/cartoon.
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>>63623366

You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

>its a cause of harm

Well, thats only sort of true, but the harm has to be immediate and direct. You have to pose an immediate and obvious danger. You actually can say you are going to kill the president, it becomes a criminal act when its in the context of actually organizing a murder, or if the statement would have some obvious casual effect on the president dying in the immediate future. If you wrote 'I am going to kill the president' on a sign and just marched around with it thats protected speech.

> or impedes rights.

There is no way thats true. You probably misunderstood whatever it is that you read. Respecting rights is an obligation possessed only by the government.

>Sex offenders got on a registry through due process fo law and still have a 90% repeat offense rate even after mandatory therapy.

Thats just not a coherent thing to say, or even a rational response to my comment.
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>>63622351
BTFO
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>>63623479
They have black widow, but she was down at the time.

Also, the rage was magically induced anyway, so their normal methods of calming him down might not have worked.

Just to clarify, you DID watch the movie, right? I'm not gonna argue it's merits against some shitposter who's too lazy to watch a fucking movie but shit on it anyway.
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>>63622641
it was different, but not terrible. it was Ang Lee, so of course it was a little "out there"
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>>63623230
What senator is gonna tarnish their image by supporting a known terrorist who is, at best, innocent of only the most recent allegation?

What part of MCU Steve Rogers is just gonna go "pull some strings" and ask a senator to affect what isn't really up to the senate (or house for that matter)?

Congress doesn't decide who is and isn't an enemy combatant.

Also, we saw a trailer. We don't know if Steve tries to help Bucky before actually fighting the government. I think you're looking for reasons to think this movie is stupid or not thought out.
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>>63621947
>why does telling the government that you already work for what your address is matter?

Because it's much more then that, it's nothing short of slavery.
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>>63623437
>It's 100% wearable
>>63623534
>It's a small mech (like a jaeger from pacific rim, but smaller) not a "suit"

Except it's not wearable even with the regular Iron Man armor, which isn't very bulky at all.

Trying to wear the Hulkbuster armor, Tony's knees would at the waist and bending the wrong way.

To actually wear the armor, he'd have to maybe sit Indian style inside the torso.
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>>63616730
Scarlet Witch since she put doubt into their hearts.
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>>63623398
Replaceable Hulkbuster arms don't really work if Tony's arm was also ripped off.
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>>63622859
>liking superman ever
can you give me a reason to love an OP as fuck comic book character, hes really uninteresting imo
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>>63623542
you basically just agreed with me or said shit obviously untrue.

>>63623610
>Just to clarify, you DID watch the movie, right?
once, and i'll give that reasoning a pass with window down and mind controlled, fair enough point, but still, this shit about Supes being at fault for the cities destruction under way more fucked circumstances is some horse shit.

>>63623700
>What senator is gonna tarnish their image by supporting a known terrorist who is, at best, innocent of only the most recent allegation?
A lot of them actually.
You follow current events?
also if he's right then they pretty much get full vindication and proved its the wrong target.

>>63623700
>Congress doesn't decide who is and isn't an enemy combatant.
No but they sure as shit tell whats agencies can and cant do.
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>>63624185
>>63624185

I will fucking kill you I swear to God.
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>>63624039
Because
1. i dont read bullshit main continuity comics for the most part.
when i do its usually a lesser character or deadpool the suicide squad, ect.

2. not all superman stories are garbage 'supe is op" junk.

3. This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M5WUiJkH-E
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5M1A_OQaaM
and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DadH3KjHZws

oh and the bird people, mummies, gangsters, nazi cult leaders, more japs, ect.

fucking 40s kicked ass.
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>>63624258
come at me, bitch!!!

second amendment rights you punk ass fuck boy!
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>>63624185
>No but they sure as shit tell whats agencies can and cant do.
Sokovia Accords are international, Bucky's a known murderer with cap strength. I really think you're over estimating what Cap can convince politicians to do. Cap loves playing politics.

Bucky isn't some muslim you really think is a terrorist but might not be, he's a confirmed assassin. Widow leaked his records along with everything else in TWS.
Defending Bucky is then the US going against the rest of the nations in the accords. Fuck that noise.

Again, I think you just really want to make it seem like there's huge plot holes in this movie already and that's just such a leap from the one trailer we've seen.
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>>63623993
that overlay doesn't make any sense, he goes from a suit to a mech driven by comfy chair?
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>>63624382
>Again, I think you just really want to make it seem like there's huge plot holes in this movie already and that's just such a leap from the one trailer we've seen.
Not plot holes, just a really fucking lame plot.

thats not exactly "civil war" thats more like a few friends have a disagreement.

at least in the comics, while the reason was stupid it has serious build up, and some MASSIVE casualties and showed how shit would get out of hand.

this is just....well really kind of petty.
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>>63616919
>Anything meaning anything
Are you too young to be visiting this site little bro?
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>>63624340
Kill yourself, nig nog.
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>>63624573
im white, fucker.
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>>63624496
>kind of petty.
I understand you calling it smaller than the comic event but calling it petty is petty.

Cap helping Bucky is a demonstration of his resolve and values. Those values are tested by having to oppose the government and a former avenger, with friends on both sides.

I wouldn't call a man's life being used as a plot element for Cap to stand firm for what he believes in "petty."

It might not be the epic dozens of heroes vs dozens of heroes blood bath you want it to be, but it'll be a great Cap movie.
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>>63624386
I wouldn't call it a chair exactly, he's still moving his legs somewhat.
Granted this is drawn to make it work out, but all you really need is his feet to reach below the 'pelvis'. The arms are probably moving, but the HB itself multiplies how much Tony is actually moving inside.
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>>63624801
but there's the issue.

its just a captain movie.

Marvel has sort of lost an opportunity and shat the bed.

Civil war is one of the largest event in marvel history that wasnt a reboot.
So they're taking a story fit enough to be its own well done trilogy and made it into one movie involving at best 5 heros and using the name "civil war" for hype.

its typical marvel garbage and adding nothign of real substance and just putting asses in seats while everyone else who his tired fo this formulaic shit just growns and rolls their eyes while they hear everyone else run their dick suckers about it for 2 months and forget it exist.

At least Dawn of Justice will have some fucking impact.

maby captain will be replaced, hell i dont know, and at this point i really couldnt care, its just padding until shitty ass thanos gets his ass handed to him off screen by squirrel girl.

And really marvel could do a lot better if there were actual consequences, or if said consequences had actual weight to them.

BVS's plot steems around the shit that went down in metropolis and is most likely why Bats is fighting supes and that will lead into other things. Cause and effect. Not just one movie fan wanking with some quips or meaningless points to the previous films.
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>>63625023
>its typical marvel garbage
>At least Dawn of Justice will have some fucking impact.
yeah and there it is, you could have saved me a lot of time by just admitting you're a DC fanboy

How can you say Civil War has no actual consequences? The movie isn't out yet. It's also gonna be the same shit as BvS.
>heroes fight
>real evil emerges
>team up
Batman and Cap are challenging authority because of their values. Tony and Superman are doing what they think is best for humanity. Black Panther and Wonder Woman show up because third party.

Watch what I'm gonna do to your last bit there.
>Civil War's plot stems around the shit that went down in The Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron and is most likely why Tony is fighting Cap and that will lead into other things. Cause and effect. Not just one movie fan wanking with some quips or meaningless points to a universe that's existed for one movie.
I didn't do that to show how great Marvel is, I'm just saying it's a pretty stupid argument to try to make before either movie is out. Really if you're talking consequences, we'd have to wait for these movies and at least one more for each franchise to know that.
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>>63624878
Someone didn't think this through.
How exactly does Hulkbuster bend over or crouch then Tony's knee joint is at a joint that moves primarily the opposite way?

I could see some alternate setups that might work here, but that drawing is stupid.
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>>63625254
>by just admitting you're a DC fanboy
im not.

i actually read more comics from marvel.
but DCs movies so far irritate me less.

>It's also gonna be the same shit as BvS.
aside form hero vs hero, fuck no it isnt.


>>63625254
>I didn't do that to show how great Marvel is, I'm just saying it's a pretty stupid argument to try to make before either movie is out. Really if you're talking consequences, we'd have to wait for these movies and at least one more for each franchise to know that.
Except the MCU has already shown conqequences are minor in their films and only work as plot set up to do something they wanted to do. essentially a form of deus ex machina (but not quite as accurate i just forgot the term for it).

The shit with MOS is a MAJOR effect on BVS and its carrying over with some real weight to it.
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>>63621863
No he isn't, he is top 5 on Earth but he is outclassed by people like The Sentry, Thor, Doom, Magneto.

Galactus, Thanos, Zeus or any of the big cosmic players would shit down his throat
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>>63623488
Gee most people would be able to relate easier by seeing him being threatened by the huge green monster peeling away his armor, not seeing the vaguely shocked face recite a joke in a calm manor.
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>>63625465
vulnerability is relateable in many regards.
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>>63625436
>Except the MCU has already shown conqequences are minor in their films and only work as plot set up to do something they wanted to do
what the fuck are you talking about?

>The shit with MOS is a MAJOR effect on BVS and its carrying over with some real weight to it.
Ultron is why Tony joined up with the government. How is that not the same as MoS being why Batman opposes Superman? How do you say one is tiny and insignificant while the other is major and has real weight?

>>63625350
His leg looks bent while the Hulkbuster is upright more or less, so there's room to move the leg forward. It is trying to hard to make work, I agree.
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>>63625436
>The shit with MOS is a MAJOR effect on BVS and its carrying over with some real weight to it.

There were no consequences to the events in mos.

Clark shows up for work like nothing happened. Cartoon shit.
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>>63618283
Boob jigg in a children's movie? The fuck were they thinking?
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>>63622618
>because Karl fucking Urban is the most underrated actor of the last 2 decades.

AMEN
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>>63625577
Tony was already with the government in everything but name only.

>>63625671
did you WANT an extra 30 minutes to that movie?
thing about snyder is that he doesnt feel the need to explain obvious shit to morons.
Its plainly obvious he shows up after rebuilding and much time has taken place.
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>>63625791
>Almost Human will never get a second season
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>>63623366
>so why did they put the hulk there to begin with?
Fucking kek. Did you think they dropped his angry ass out of a plane?
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>>63625916
Remember how Tony gave them War Machine so they'd get off his back?
Remember how Tony funded the Avengers after SHIELD fell?
You have a really funny way of remembering these movies.
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>>63623398
You're not actually this stupid are you?
He was piloting the damned thing, not wearing it.

Cars aren't wearable either; doesn't mean you can't drive them.
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>>63616730
iron man

one of the many reasons AoU was trash
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>>63617220

Not indirectly. In the first movie with buildings collapsing and shit people did die though not on screen. Jessica Jones had that couple in it that said that they were mad at people with powers cause their relatives died when one of the buildings collapsed due to the fighting.

Basically Hulk may not rip people limb from limb but the collateral damage does kill people indirectly.
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>>63625916
>thing about snyder is that he doesnt feel the need to explain obvious shit to morons.

Huh...

Sorry anon, Snyder doesn't know the meaning of subtle. It's more like he's too incompetent to add such an obvious scene. Like mos making out in the middle of ground zero.

Snyder is a hack.
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>>63626427
>not knowing the jesus bit is just a red herring and the real message is faith in HUMANITY and choices and consequences.

The jesus thing is mostly there because....superman, but the real underlying bit is faith and rewards/consequences of that faith and choices.

Pa Kent didnt want Clark to reveal his powers yet so not only HE would have a somewhat normal life but also so that humanity would be ready. He knew consequences could be more disasterous than a bus full of drown children, but it could also be positive, he wasnt sure, thus when asked if he should have let those kids drowned he replied with "Perhaps". he doesnt have the answers. And because of that he;s extra cautious.
while Jor El is more optimistic.and less agnostic and thinks superman with be a symbol of good.
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