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Episode 10 will make or break this entire season.
>>63604771
Yeah cuz ep 9 hasn't already thrown this board into a tizzy
The season is already broken after last episode.
Was season 1 any good? I've watched it up to like 4th episodeAFAIK i wrapped up with the episode when Lorne takes over the blackmailbut never got back into it
>>63604771
The first 9 have been so good I don't think ep10 can suck, but if it does the first 9 were still so great it will not ruin this season for me.
>>63604771
why the fuck didnt this guy wear a beard before? it is his perfect form. Sean Connery 2.
>>63604861
You should definitely finish it.
As long as they do something to address the shit that betsey found in hank's room, I'll be fine with it.
>>63604873
I agree. Based ted looks better with a beard.
ALIEUMS BRO
if piggy shows her butt in episode 10 it will the GOAT show
Danson for Big Boss.
>>63606035
He's gonna make it, right bros?
;_;
How can anyone unironically think this season is better than last?
>>63604861
Gets GOAT from the next episode onward
>>63606254
the first putt is better
heck episode 8 was the best episode out of this series
>>63604771
I just don't want this season to ends.
>>63604771
>Danson has alien shit in his house
>Clearly a nut for aliens
>Lou can't explain what the fuck happened during the shootout
>Danson will influence Lou's account of the situation, thinking it was ayy lmaos
>Hence an unreliable narrator introduced in episode 9
reminder that ted danson put on blackface and ate watermelon at whoopi goldberg's roast.
>>63604771
Shut up neckbeard its a meme show for meme sperging fucking edge lord faggots.
>muh ayyliums
Fucking faggot memers
>>63606397
And Whoopi was okay with it.
>>63606397
Based
>>63604829
Ayy LMAO
>>63606433
>meme show
What did he mean by this?
>>63606397
It was a different time.
For the Dodd fanboys.
>>63606529
>Dodd fanboys
>>63606326
>>63606529
Who is more based?
>>63606565
I guess fanboy is more appropriate.
>>63604771
The entire season 2 is broken from the beggining.
Stop talking about that shitty season.
>>63606573
Dodd is shit compared to this mighty killer.
>>63606573
Irrelevant
>>63606573
>we're never gonna see Dodd's operating skills against Kansas-City mafia
Why live?
>>63604873
Makeup people have a good eye for that. Peter Dinklage in Game of Thrones has a haricut that diminishes his freakish forehead and actually makes him look vaguely attractive.
It's already perfect. They can show kirsten dunst stab people with a scissor for 60 minutes for all that i care.
>>63606714
I bet you dress like a wizard.
>>63606573
i still cant get over that awesome haircut of his.
>>63606692
I know man. Dodd was a badass and killed his first man at like 8 years old. Plus the chocolate glaze scene, when he caught the ejected bullet midair without even looking and the Ed hanging scene - Dodd had a lot of killing potential.
The moment Hank did not go to check on Peggy is the moment this season went from quality to absolute shit. The UFO business only compounded it.
>>63604829
why?
>>63606975
I thought his name was Isaac?
>>63606975
There are all sorts of plot gaps that annoy me but they put on a great show so I give them the benefit of the doubt (or maybe chalk it up to unreliable narrator, as we would to the UFOs?)
>>63607139
because aliens
>>63606921
I couldn't take him seriously, same terrible acting as burn notice
>>63606880
First day of filming he apparently woke up with his hair like that and thought "yeah, that's what Lorne Malvo would look like.
Martin Freeman thought he just always looked like that.
>>63606573
LE DEVIL XD
>>63606501
It means he's never seen the show but sees the threads for it every day and that makes him mad because muh cinema
>yfw the aliens take Peg on board to go back to her home planet next episode
>>63606573
Considering thatDodd literally trains MalvoI'd say Dodd.
>>63609439
Don't remember Malvo having a wonky hand.
>>63610306
keyser soze
>>63609137
When you're a spy...
Also it was kinda sweet to see both him and Bruce Campbell together in another show.
>>63604771
>Episode 10 will make or break this entire season.
It will make it, I'm calling it. It will give a perfect solution to the ayyluim controversy and every butthurt fan will be back on tracks heralding it as the best current show.
Just remember, I think it was ep7 that made a lot people sceptical, but the following episode tied everything back together. That's what will happen again.
9 broke it m8
deus ex ufo machine gtfo
>>63606326
DODD DID NOTHING WRONG
>>63610306
That's just a misdirection he'll fix it in the finale after he kills Hanzee.
Shit season.
>>63609439
This meme again
>>63610306
>>63609439
Malvo had fucked up legs, not wonky hands. Or at least his shoes was/looked like ones for that
>>63613054
>meme
Okay I warned you anon it's gonna beTommyall over again.
>>63606326
>Someone needs your help Michael!
>>63613274
NOT RIGHT NOW MA
lol do you know how wrong you are, pleb?
fargo season 1 is best season of any series ever. season two is awesome but idk man, i think just one episode would maybe not be enough to end the story....
>>63612870
The UFO was established the first episode. Don't use terms you don't understand.
The 1996 movie has a character named Lou working with Marge when she's investigating the bodies on the road.
He's kind of lazy, but not exactly dumb. He looks a bit too old to be Patrick Wilson ten years later, but just right for Keith Carradine twenty years ago. He has no last name and doesn't play into the movie besides asking Marge questions.
Thoughts?
>>63613889
That's stupid. You're stupid.
>>63613889
bruh
>>63613889
>He has no last name
How does he get mail delivered properly?
Pointless show with stupid characters except for Lou. Nothing makes sense, it's just gibberish. Literally pleb filter show, plebs pretend they like it and they can't even explain why they like it except for "DUDE AWKWARD LMAO"
>>63613889
I'm not sure I agree 100% with your police work there, Lou
>>63614016
I agree with you. Plebtier garbage.
>>63614016
/thread
>>63614016
This. Let's go back to watching TWD and GoT, folks.
>>63614196
It's on the same level as twd and got.
>>63614286
Yeah except, TWD and GoT actually try, Fargo isnt even trying to make any sense.
>>63614286
Alright what are some shows on TV right now better than Fargo?
All I can think of is The Leftovers.
>>63614323
The Leftovers only.
>>63614016
Pretty much this tbqh
>>63614323
>I only watch The Sopranos, The Wire and the first 7 season of The Simpsons and nothing else
t. /tv/
>>63604771
True Detective S1 finale was shit but didn't ruin the great season before that. I don't see why it would be different for Fargo S2.
>people getting triggered over the UFO even though the season is based on a UFO sighting
ayyy fucking retards
When does this air
>>63614404
it was not shit. i thought it was until i watched it again, and it really grew on me. season 1 is fantastic from first to the last second.
>>63614478
Enjoy your pleb show mate
>>63614404
>finale was shit
Only if you were dumb enough to expect the spaghetti monster to actually be a green faced monster. Then I could see how you would be let down.
>>63613889
this is hilarious. that guy was a fucking moron. patrick wilson/keith carradine is a good cop who enjoys ice fishing.
What did Hanzee have against Bear and Floyd? Nothing he's done since killing Dodd has made any sense.
>>63609439
You don't just grow out of cerebral palsy.
>>63615052
they said that reason could be anything, spontaneous reaction for all shit he had been through, they used him for shitty ilegal jobs his whole life, and he's probably enough of that shit.
>>63615052
Nothing. He just wants to kill everyone who knows he's a criminal. He wants out of the game, and to that you have to make sure no one talks about you.
>>63613300
>tfw you're never getting love stabbed by kirsten dunst
but i don't understand why Hanzee killed that bitch in the motel, and that guy who works in the store if he decided to change? Maybe he wanted to be sure that nobody fucks him in the future, and that he can live in peace ?
>>63612835
I love how not only would that do barely anything, but the doors swing outward so the bench wouldn't even block the doors.
>>63615182
but why he didn't kill those rednecks in front of the bar?
>>63615281
That was the changing point.
>>63615302
why kill the barkeeper then?
Who's cooler?
>>63615355
Mike is cooler, but Hanzee is more badass
Milligan is the best character. His voice is so damn good.
>>63615355
Both are meme characters but Mike is way more obnoxious in his memeiness.
>>63615355
The better question is who wins the showdown tomorrow night?
>>63615486
What the fucking hell constitutes being a "meme" character? How about you fucking cukcolds explain that?
>>63615182
That was literally the point of this episode. Holy shit you're dense. The idea is that "we don't know when he decided to go rogue" but he did at some point around the time the phone call happened and the time he killed her.
>>63609137
I actually liked his acting in burn notice (I thought the fact that it wasn't very good yet remained serviceable added to the charm of the show), but I agree that he was pretty shit as Dodd. It also shows that he has fuckall range.
>>63615279
Also there's an ad for his practice on the door.
>>63615821
The character is written to stand out from everything else and to deliver short, funny xd or quirky xd quotes, designed to be turned into memes.
An alternative is when the character is built around or spouts memes itself.
>>63615924
Well that doesn't describe Hanzee at all
>>63615924
So any Arnold Schwarzenegger role
>>63616196
Pretty much, yes.
>>63616163
Exchange quirky quotes with "epin" "Bad ass" moments. Malvo was the biggest meme character of all but for season 2 they've seem to have split that meme character into 2. Milligan is the worst one because he has the quirky shit and also the bad ass shit. Hanzee is like some dumb anime crap but at least he isn't doing forced shit like jabberwocky.
>>63616238
>>63615924
You guys should fucking kill yourselves if you believe any of the stupid shit you just typed.
And it's clear neither of you understand Mike's character despite them beating you over the head with it.
Fucking die.
>>63616381
Butthurt redditor fuck off!
>muh ebin maymay charaters pls no disrige ;_;
>>63606397
>They cringed in disbelief during the opening monologue by actor Ted Danson, Whoopi's lover, who appeared in blackface and used the word "nigger" more than a dozen times during a series of jokes that drew smaller and smaller laughs, until finally the audience was groaning and Danson faltered as he tried to plow through his written material.
>At one point he even ate watermelon.
fucking 10/10
Episode 9 is like the making of the most delicious and beautiful cake being shown, and then the writers take a huge shit all over it for the icing, just to make people talk about it.
>>63616633
Oh cry me a fucking river. They've been building up the ayy lmaos since the first episode of the season you fucking idiot.
Ive rewatched every ep again and the ayy liums are referenced in every episode, sometimes more than once.
>>63616800
Doesn't mean it had to be played straight.
>>63615355
Hanzee is the typical not-to-fuck-with Indian.
Milligan is out of his depth and is autistic (using all those quotes that barely anyone would recognize)
>>63606397
Link?
>>63616238
>Exchange quirky quotes with "epin" "Bad ass" moments.
Oh alright, so a character, even one that is a fucking hitman in a crime drama, is never allowed to do anything perceived as "bad ass" lest they become a meme character.
Fucking idiot
>>63616800
>>63616880
Pretty sure Indian saw UFO too when he was at the Waffle Hut during the day and time sort of like freezed for a moment.
Plus alien writing in that room...
>>63616991
The only idiot here is you, sonny.
>>63616880
It was played straight in the first fucking episode but autists who can't handle anything that isn't realistic tried to rationalize it as a hallucination.
>>63616880
Why not
>>63613889
Yes the dude that let the pregnant lady do all he real police work is the same Lou who breaks protocol and goes against orders to go head first into a shootout. The same dude who called someone higher up than him a "shit cop". Its almost like there's more than one lou on the planet. Does seem odd they'd use the same name though, knowing idiots like you exist, you'd think they'd make sure to cut all ties to the movie.
>>63615121
>Nothing. He just wants to kill everyone who knows he's a criminal.
He's literally a wanted criminal with his face posted on the cover of newspapers.
>>63617395
Hence the haircut
He's probably leaving the states, but he has to kill the people that have actually personally seen him
Reminder:
anyone who think the ayylmaos are a deus ex machina know nothing about deus ex machinas. Let me elaborate.
a deus ex machina is something that is out of the left field and changes the course of the story drastically.
Episode 9 hits none of those points
>>63615924
Not only is meme character a stupid buzzword but that's not what it means. You're retarded as fuck mate
>>63617562
It's literally a giant otherworldly being descending from the sky to affect change.
>>63617819
But its not out of nowhere, it was in the first episode, it was referenced in every episode since. plus it didn't really change anything that couldn't have been told without it
why did the show drop in quality so much between season 1 and season 2? Did they change writers or some shit?
>>63617900
It's literally a giant otherworldly being descending from the sky to affect change.
>>63617900
Plus its not like it actually happened, there's a reason the episode was told from a narrator's perspective
>>63617993
Nope, same writers. Learn to look past critical acclaim and the Coen brothers connection and you will see that it is shit as well.
>>63618007
Way to really add to what you said last reply
>>63618015
Fargo Spin Control and Shilling Squad needs to think of better arguments than it's not out of nowhere and it isn't real anyway.
>>63618114
But you don't give reasons as to why its bad. please give me a reason to think of you as more than a contrarian fag
>>63618072
I repeated myself because by your very definition it is a deus ex machina. It is literally a giant otherworldly being descending from the sky to affect change. No amount of hand waving or foreshadowing changes that.
>>63618212
and what change does it affect?
>>63616971
http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/dansons-racist-humor-appalls-crowd-at-roast
>>63618212
Its not out of nowhere though, its referenced in every episode and does basically nothing to affect change. How retarded are you
>>63618044
>implying critics matter
>implying famous names matter
Season 1 told a concise story that was reasonable in scope. The themes were conveyed effectively and the cinematography was very well done. Season 2 has had so many lifeless shootouts and contrived mexican stand offs that all tension is lost. We're introduced to interesting characters who are killed off in a couple of episodes for no reason. Character motivations are muddled and the story with Meth Damon and his wife trying to keep their heads above water is just a rehash of Lesters arc in season 1 without any thought put into how it ties in thematically with the rest of the season. Don't even get me started on the fucking aliens.
How you can't see the drop in quality is beyond me
>>63618265
It saves Lou, and also confirms the existence of otherworldly beings.
>>63618265
>>63618314
it means that fucking aliens exist in the fargo universe and Lou only survived because the fat retard was distracted
>>63617819
Bear shouldve been dead if Lou really did hit his head and 2 to the chest. So it wasn't that helpful to Lou anyways.
>>63618343
>We're introduced to interesting characters who are killed off in a couple of episodes for no reason
umm.... not a whole lot of characters have died until episode 9, excluding 2 people
>Character motivations are muddled and the story with Meth Damon and his wife trying to keep their heads above water is just a rehash of Lesters arc in season 1 without any thought put into how it ties in thematically with the rest of the season
except it ties in perfectly with the themes this season is showing. The aliens fit with the theme too
>>63618443
>umm....
literally reddit, no wonder you like this shitty show
>except it ties in perfectly with the themes this season is showing
explain how then you retarded faggot
>>63618343
There's nothing concise and reasonable about magic demonic hitmen getting away with miraculous crimes (including single handedly murdering an entire police station), fish falling from the sky, machine gun battles in the street, pointless time jumps, and I could keep going but I won't. There also were no themes to the first season that weren't poor facsimile's of the Coen brothers themes. I would even argue that there were no discernible themes aside from baby's first nihilism argument.
>>63618475
>umm....
>literally reddit, no wonder you like this shitty show
you are literal cancer and are the type of person as to why we can't have actual discussions.
>>63618358
>>63618409
and now we're back to the circular arguement that lou didn't necessarily need the ufo intervention to be saved, and that it doesnt explicity confirm that the aliens are real because we can not tell if that is really what is happening
furthermore, even if it does confirm the existence of ayy lmaos, that still has no bearing whatsoever on the rest of the franchise
there are no new arguments being presented here at all, just repeating the same misconceptions about a show that was specifically designed to not have all the answers
>>63618416
They really aren't paying you enough. You must hate yourself.
>>63618600
This is the most logical answer to all the arguments.
Thank you good sir
>>63618574
>act like a retard
>get called a retard
you gonna explain the themes of the show yet or are you willing to admit you were talking out your ass?
>>63616415
>Danson was Whoopi Goldberg's lover at one point
That's the most cringeworthy part of the story
>>63609439
How can Hanzee die if he's meant to become Shep?
>>63618562
>There's nothing concise and reasonable about magic demonic hitmen
you need to go back to school and learn reading comprehension
>There also were no themes to the first season
so you're too stupid to understand things even when they're blatantly shown?
2/10 made me reply, come up with something better or we're done here
>>63614057
Oh yah?
>>63618648
>Guy has a different opinion than you
>"FUCKING REDDIT!!"
>No argument literally just flinging shit
He's right, you're fucking cancer.
>>63618729
What was the theme of Season 1?
I love the show, but if your talking so much shit lets here it
>>63618600
>we can not tell if that is really what is happening
Keep doing the mental gymnastics to justify how aliens existing isn't a big deal and isn't the stupidest thing ever in a show called Fargo. Also, unreliable narrators don't let you off the hook for shitty writing, in fact in most cases they are prime evidence of it.
>>63618758
>being this BTFO
>still can't even try to back up what he was saying
I gave plenty of argument, you tried to be a smartass and got rekt so now you're trying to damage control. Back up your claims or admit you were full of shit
>>63618822
How is it shit writing? also how are aliens a big deal if its likely not actually what they saw. remember this is the 70's. The aliens are there for a deeper purpose. The theme of this season is along the lines of (excuse my poor wording) outsiders coming in
>>63618880
>I gave plenty of argument
no you havent, in fact you are only saying the writing is bad... but for what reason? because aliens? but that isn't even a reason
The 4chan community just has an irrational hatred for aliens
>>63618729
Keep reading after the quotes you cherry picked, ignoring my the content of my statements and erroneously calling me out for improper grammar and insulting my intelligence does wonders for getting me to take your arguments seriously and not at all reinforces the notion that all Fargo fans are fucking morons.
>>63618775
Do you honestly want me to sit here and list off all the themes in season 1?
Good vs Evil - obvious
Good being unable to comprehend evil - obvious
Strength of spirit is found in unlikely places - obvious again
Are you finished being BTFO now?
>>63618822
if the show takes place in the 70s, and the first season and movie take place after it, and they make no mention of ufo sightings, then how could the concept of extraterrestrial life existing ever be a big deal?
the entire thing is done so outlandishly that the viewers are meant to question if that is really what is happening, especially since they put "based on a true story" on it,
that isnt something they did on accident
>>63618951
>make argument
>person responds with statements they clearly can't back up
>ask them to back it up
>they keep trying to damage control and shift the goalposts while still not backing up their claims
Next time don't try to act smarter than you are and you won't get BTFO
>>63619051
more like
>make argument
>anon replies
>make an arguement about reddit
>ahahah I won BTFO
go fuck yourself
>>63618993
>All themes that the Coen Brothers have being using for years in much more elegant and artfully presented ways
>>63619106
I asked you to back up your argument, calling you reddit was a throwaway comment that you've latched onto in an attempt to shift the goalposts. You still haven't explained the themes of season 2 buddy and are beginning to look a little silly. Unless you give a serious reply we're done here
>>63619106
>being this bootyblasted
>>63619137
not same anon, but its a softly using all of the coens movie as inspirations.
and it makes a for an awesome show, aliens or not.
>>63619045
Great arguments, aliens existing in reality, which this show (as well as the movie it's based off) has claimed to be set in aren't a big deal and unreliable narrators that allow you to pick and choose what is real and what isn't aren't lazy and terrible writing.
>>63619137
>these themes don't count because arbitrary reasons
lmao my ass off nice shitposting good one i laughed really funny man you got me good
>>63619137
It's a TV show and it's based on the Coen brothers movies, so what else were you expecting bitch boi?
>>63619180
No, they are not inspirations, they are rip-offs. There is a big difference.
>>63619183
>and unreliable narrators that allow you to pick and choose what is real and what isn't aren't lazy and terrible writing
is this a new meme? there is literally nothing lazy or terrible about Aliens in the show, as they literally add nothing no matter how you put it, its there for a deeper maybe even more of meta type of reason
>>63619045
why are you defending this shit? the fact that they're never referenced again is evidence of how shoehorned and retarded their implementation is. Lou never thought to mention to his daughter about the time literal aliens appeared and saved his life?
>>63619187
I didn't say they don't count, if you actually read my previous comment >>63618562 before getting on your high horse to insult me you would see I said "There were also no themes to the first season that weren't poor facsimile's of the Coen brothers themes. But I wouldn't expect anything less from a Fargo fan.
>implying UFO's don't exist in real life
How can people say that UFO's showing up is out of place, when there is real life sightings of UFO's and well documented cases on this? Just because YOU don't think UFO's are real, doesn't mean that UFO's aren't a real thing and Aliens aren't a real thing. I don't see Aliens as being something out of place in a realistic shot.
>>63619274
>Didi I ever tell you about the aliens that saved my life
>Okay dad sure, I'm going to go try and arrest the devil
>>63619219
According to anonymous 4chan troll or the Coen Brothers?
I come to /tv/ to discuss Fargo, but now it seems only pregame and post game threads are good. Everyone else has fuck all for reasons as to why Aliens are good or bad, but somehow they make the show have bad writing, regardless of the fact that it adds nothing. /tv/ is literal cancer
>>63619306
>believing Malvo is the devil meme
He was suppose to represent Chaos, not the devil anon.
>>63619274
>"aliens are real molly! i saw them with my own eyes, it was right after your mom died too, dont ya believe me?"
>>63619256
You do a huge disservice to intelligent discussion in general when you throw around the terms "deeper" and "meta" when defending what is at best a poorly contrived and insultingly obvious motif.
>>63619353
>tfw the aliens represent significant change due to death
>>63619334
>abloo bloo bloo when a dark comedy randomly decides to become a sci fi everyone starts calling it shit
>aliens appearing in the middle of the dramatic and physical climax of the season doesn't matter
>stop making fun of my show waaaa
Season 2 is horseshit, Season 1 was a masterpiece
>>63619427
agreed, no one ITT has been able to dispute this so far
>>63619193
Maybe some content that is actually worthy of being associated with the name?
>>63619427
>>63619455
samefag
>>63619352
>the way he disappeared out the basement
>fucking with the Christian guy in the way he did
>the "I haven't tasted anything that good since the garden of eden" line
>the angel wings in the elevator
I agree with you, but with those examples above and surely many others do give that belief some ground to stand on.
>>63619397
ehhhh.... probably not if you look at the promo for next week
>>63619455
It's easy to say that when you don't need to back it up
>>63619479
keep crying
>>63619501
Doesn't change the fact that it's heavy-handed and stupid.
>>63619511
I've backed up my claims ITT already and any attempts to dispute them just turned into pathetic goalpost moving and damage control, season 2 is hot garbage
>>63619353
>>63619274
also i wanna add, if in real life, you saw an actual ufo appear in front of you, would you really tell anyone?
nobody would believe you, and you'd just end up looking insane trying to convince them
>>63619552
That wasn't part of the discussion.
>>63619569
you literally do not say anything to back yourself up, all you do is say that the show is stupid because aliens and somehow its lazy...
>>63619569
I'm talking about Season one being shit too you sanctimonious fuck.
I agree that as it stands the Aliens fuck up the lore of the movie/show since they're never referenced again.
There are two options to fix the show. Either in the next episode everybody who witnessed the aliens gets a memory wipe.
Or they could release a remastered version of season 1 alongside the season 2 blu ray with some more UFO's edited into the background of key scenes and maybe film some extra scenes with Molly and old Lou where he makes references to the Sioux Falls aliens.
>>63619618
lmao
>>63619596
nope, try reading >>63618343 again and try to come up with a counter argumentspoileryou can't bitch nigga
>>63619630
Well I mean... Lou is probably gonna be the only one who lives soooo...
Look Aliens is really a non issue, people just want an excuse to shit on anything that they don't like
>>63619618
are you retarded?
>>63619654
Here's one>>63618562
>>63619654
I already replied
basically
>We're introduced to interesting characters who are killed off in a couple of episodes for no reason
the only people who fit that bill is the typewriter guy and the syndicate dude, even then, they served their purpose
>>63619618
and yet you watched every episode and are waiting around for the next one.
>>63614322
>Yeah except, TWD and GoT actually try, Fargo isnt even trying to make any sense.
>>63619630
you think there arent people in the real world who believe that ufos exist without a doubt?
and if they are real, is it impossible that the aliens only showed up during this time period and then never again?
>>63619743
>can't think of counter argument
>link someone elses post that I already rekt
well this has been fun but I guess no one is willing to back up anything they're saying except me so I'm done with this thread
>>63619804
Good riddance you fucking delusional prick
>>63619768
Nope I bailed after the first episode of Season 2. I hated the first season and the second the UFO first showed up I wrote it off and stopped watching. It's a terrible show and I loathe the critical acclaim it's getting simply being associated with the far superior Coen brothers.
nothing wrong with aliens man you guys are taking fiction too seriously
the "based on true story, actual events that happened" in the beginning is not true
it's a stylistic choice brought over from the movie which did the same thing
the coen brothers said that it was the same for the movie and that claim was untrue
>>63619455
Dispute what? No one has brought up a valid criticism of S2 besides erroneously invoking deus ex machina.
>>63619830
>hated first season
well that means that you shouldn't be discussing it as your mind is already convinced that its shit. holy fuck
>>63619804
You didn't "rekt" anyone, you didn't address a single thing about why the first season is just as contrived, ridiculous, and poorly written as the second.
>>63619837
and hilariously its not even a deus ex machina
>>63604771
>You will not look like Ted Danson when you're old
>You won't even have anything resembling his beard genetics
Fucking shit
>>63614008
By using a full address and zip code?
>>63619830
Even the Coens would admit this show completely eclipses their entire career in terms of both art and entertainment. And since they seem like pretty smart guys they'd be fucking proud to have layed the foundation for the watershed moment where TV could finally be taken seriously. The Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood, Twin Peaks, Breaking Bad, it's all just a precursor to this moment. The finale is going to shatter TV forever. The landscape can never go back to the way it was after this glimpse of something more.
>>63619837
It's a nihilistic hodge-podge of stupid people killing each other that feigns at being intellectual by invoking heavy handed symbolism and it's connection to the Coen brothers and the only suspense it offers is which characters will kill each other this week and whether or not fucking aliens will show up again. It's truly terrible.
>>63619914
Top kek
>>63619914
>Fargo fans think this level of subtlety is clever
>>63619934
Your acting like important people get killed each week.
shitposting has hit a new low
>>63619981
You're. You are.
>>63619855
It's an anthology series so there's enough of a disconnect from the first season that they could have possibly done something better with the clean slate they set for themselves.
>you need to have a positive opinion of something to be allowed to discuss it
This is a reddit sensibility pro-hugbox mindset.
THE WALKING DEAD: ALIENS EDITION
why do you people watch this show again? I dropped it after episode 1 and now I hear the alien shit is still going on?
>>63619529
Nice shoop, faggot.
>>63620006
>you need to have a positive opinion of something to be allowed to discuss it
no, but you're bound to talk shit because you have a predetermined bias of it
>It's an anthology series so there's enough of a disconnect from the first season that they could have possibly done something better with the clean slate they set for themselves.
Its still the same show and shares some of the same type of themes
>>63619684
Indian lives, he is in the Fargo movie.
>>63620074
Source?
been awhile since I saw the movie
Undertaker+China Twins >>>>>>>>>>>>>Mike+Kitchen Twins
>>63620074
Shep is a lot different from Hanzee
>>63619934
>It's a nihilistic hodge-podge of stupid people killing each other
You could use that exact sentence to describe both the Fargo movie and Fargo season 1.
>>63620179
I feel like its fits Season 2 the least
>tfw enjoyed the shit out of the season so far and love the exaggerating narration UFOs give to the story telling
>>63620065
>no, but you're bound to talk shit because you have a predetermined bias of it
Not necessarily. I was willing to give season 2 a chance despite not liking season 1. I went in with enough of an open mind that I would have praised it if it had been better.
>but you're bound to talk shit
And there's literally nothing wrong with that if the situation calls for it. It would be extremely dangerous if there was no one out there to call the bad shows bad and every show was just endlessly praised by their ignorant fanbases regardless of quality.
Would you want a world where nobody called the walking dead or Breaking Bad out for being garbage? If there are no standards then television will only get worse.
>>63620179
Nope, there's so much more going on in the movie than that. It describes both seasons of the television show perfectly.
>>63620221
>tfw Im an autist and some of these fags are triggering my autism
>>63620250
>Nope, there's so much more going on in the movie than that.
Describe what the movie has that the show doesn't in detail without falling back on "the coens are good because critics say so" meme. If you don't fulfill this challenge then you lose the argument.
>>63620247
I can't take people seriously if they call the show bad. Like the show isn't perfect and should be called out for it, but to act like everything is bad in the show is very idiotic.
also I think your standards are hella high if you think BB is garbage. The show is good at worst.
Tell me what your favorite shows are
>>63620303
Sure, how about the genuinely loving appreciation of midwestern values that the television show sorely lacks.
>>63620247
You must be loving this moment. Probably the most attention you have ever had in your life.
>>63620350
I'm more than willing to give shows the benefit of the doubt, and I'd love to have a good show to watch every week. The bad on Fargo far outweighs the good.
>>63620247
Why are you trying to defend your position against someone who thinks you have to like a show to discuss it? That's a key indicator someone is not worth engaging.
>>63620396
what shows do you consider good
>>63620351
That's not enough. I could just as easily say that Fargo season 2 has the same appreciation of those values that the movie does when you've got nothing to back that shit up. Even if this is a valid point, it's not enough of an explanation to justify your "so much more going on" claim.
I think the point is invalid for the record. All degenerates and those who stray from traditional values are punished for it. The entire Peggy plotline is an indictment of feminism. Those who sway from the good life are all met with karmic retribution.
This show is meant to take place in the same universe as all of the Coen Brother films. So according to Noah Hawley logic, The Man Who Wasn't There confirms the possibility that aliens are real. There is also a Mike Zoss pharmacy in No Country for Old Men and Fargo season 1.
>>63620497
/thread
>>63606035
Holy fuck, is that really TED DANSON?
I need to watch this show.
>>63620552
Don't let the haters sway you, its a good show
>>63620447
The show uses the zany accents and traditional values to poke fun at its characters, and while there was an element of that in the movie it ultimately was a positive portrayal of their way of life. "Degenerates" being punished is not indicative of the show saying anything about small town values, and if anything backs up the my argument that the show hates it's characters uniformly.
>>63620497
Season 3 Stars Chigurh as main Antagonist
:D !
>>63620573
>haters
Now this is a reddit sensibility attitude. You sound like a 13 your old emotionally defending your chosen video game console.
>>63620497
Classic Fargo conflation of references with quality.
>>63620618
Most of the cast are blundering caricatures but you have the Solversons at the center of each season who are portrayed affectionally.
>>63620635
>autism
>>63620635
you seem to be an expert on reddit culture
I don't understand the point of the Black guy.
>>63620750
>>63620771
You're getting too emotionally attached to your show again. You should call art as you see it with zero personal attachment, good or bad. The moment you become a "fan" of something you are too compromised to ever judge it competently.
>>63618993
So the exact themes of the movie, and every Coen's movie?
>>63620749
Yes, but they are caricatures themselves as well. The love of midwestern values was most evident in Marge in the movie, but she wasn't portrayed as some perfect cop who was the lone beacon of goodness in a cruel world. Her small town sensibilities were a hindrance at times and a strength at times. There is none of that nuance in the Solversons. They are good simply because the show needs them to be, and the writers obviously aren't concerned with complex character motivations or internal logic.
>>63620750 What do you mean by “Autism”
>>63616238
>>63615924
how stupid are these posts? you don't know what you're talking about.
>>63618993
no reason to act smug faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p46qx7KVks
is this the most badass opener of any tv series ever?
>>63606035
He looks damn good for 67
>>63606573
who /bear/ here?
>>63621128
I can't decide whom I enjoy more between Mike or Hanze. This season is fucking great.
>>63606573
NO ONE can top Malvo senpai
>>63620946
I'm not going to argue against that. This show isn't anywhere near as smartly written as the movie. It should in no way be viewed as a legitimate expansion of the work of the Coen's. It feels like off-brand Coens, with much of the "quirkness" coming across as unnatural affectation. It is a fascimile.
I find the show entertaining but it is deserving of no artistic respect outside of some of the performances and technical execution. To me it is unconvincing fan fiction elevated to the level of "good" by the direction and actors. As a surface level entertainment show it's been among the ones I've enjoyed watching most this year, but at the same time I think it's artistically bankrupt and the people holding it up to the level of the Coen brothers are insulting the quality of the original movie.
>>63621537
source for scene
Malvo was anayy lmao.
In the scene with Lou and Malvo in season 1, Malvo alludes that he was there at Sioux Falls. He also implies that he's been at his job of, well, being Malvo, for a ridiculous amount of time.
There might be more to the massacre, or more characters who are going to have been there and get away, but if this was the massacre in episode 9, than the only people who survived who could possibly be Malvo, wereayy lmaos
>>63621417
>>63621537
>>63621615
Get your shit together, anon.
>>63621614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3NTFnnaPC8
>>63621637
Jesus christ, yeah. Kept fucking my post up.
>>63606975
He had a severe concussion. He ends up going to the hospital after they go back to their house to check.
Do you people pretend to be stupid? Or is this another, "I cant believe Jessie killed that dog!" thing?
>>63621749
>I cant believe Jessie killed that dog!" thing?
That was a meme. The Peggy thing is legitimately bad writing. You can handwave it with the concussion but it's still weak.
>>63621615
>>63621718
>I haven't had a piece of pie like that since the Garden of Eden
Huh.
>>63621397
Fair enough, in fact you're evoking my exact sentiments in your last sentence. My ire isn't for those who enjoy the show, it's for those that are elevating it to high art.
>>63621749
Its not handwaving, he got knocked unconscious with a rifle butt. This was completely established before forgetting to check on Peggy.
Do you understand how concussions work? It literally is short term severe brain damage. You dont think/function right.
I enjoy this season, but it feels like we're in the middle of it, not at the end. They've actually done a poor job building to the finale. There's nothing at stake. I don't particularly care about Ed and Peggy on the run, Hanzee's killing spree, or Milligan... what is Milligan doing, exactly?
>>63621925
>it doesn't make sense on purpose!!!!
uh huh, sure thing kiddo
>>63621925
But why did he need to get concussion in the first place other than to make it more convenient for the writers? What's to stop them having someone get a head injury every time things get a bit awkward for the writers and they need a characters to do something stupid for the plot to progress?
>>63622071
>What's to stop them having someone get a head injury every time things get a bit awkward for the writers and they need a characters to do something stupid for the plot to progress?
There's only one episode left. How many more times are you worried about it happening?
>>63622071
no need to fret anon, if they write themselves into a corner they can just have aliens show up again
>>63620633
>No Country for Old Men
1980
>Fargo Season 3
2008
I for one would love to see what a 70 year old Chigurh could be capable of.
>>63622071
because thats how people are. you're getting worked up for something not important
>>63622203
None, but the point is that it's lazy writing. You can see the mechanics of the show and it feels bad. Like Breaking Bad season 5 where every plot point was predicated on a character doing something dumb for a not entirely convincing reason.
>>63622020
If you want to be upset about it, thats okay. There are plenty of other things in this show to be upset about. A person acting the way someone who is concussed would act isnt that crazy.
>>63622071
Well, they only did it once, and there is one episode left. Chances are it isnt happening again.
People get concussions and act unusually. Its not that absurd to me.
>>63620633
really?
>>63622353
>multiple people get knocked out every episode
>the one time someone acts concussed is when it's most convient for the writers
wow such a good show
>>63620800
He and the Kansas City mob are the invading aliens. Get it?
All they had to do was have Hank crawl down the basement stairs, crawl back up, and then radio it in.
>>63621615
Who's the say the massacre is over. Hanzee will follow them into a supermarket from the preview, so he's bound to take some innocent bystanders out. Maybe Malvo will be one of the survivors.
>>63622464
>All they had to do was have Hank crawl down the basement stairs, crawl back up, and then radio it in.
Because that would have been great television
>>63622746
Wouldn't have had to show it from start to finish. A brief montage would have served to illustrate the kind of person he is.
>>63619630
Good thing the UFO wasn't real then.
>>63622876
>seen by multiple people in different scenes
>also seen by multiple people in the same scene
oh yeah it's totally not real that's why it has a physical effect on the world right?
>>63622804
>Wasting time on some crazy bitch when his son in law and his trusted collegues are in danger
This is why autists don't write televison shows
>>63606433
>oh no the majority of people on /tv/ like something better call it a meme show and tell them to fuck off to Reddit so I can look cool
>>63623025
She's a civilian with gangsters in her home. Lou can handle himself.
>>63623074
The majority of this board are plebeian crossposters from shitholes like /v/, /sp/ and reddit. So if most of the board seems to be positive about a thing then it absolutely is a meme show.
>>63622948
If I had to guess at the most recent one, it's this: police helicopter flies overhead after hearing about the shooting, shines light on Bear and Lou, Bear looks up at the light/noise, Lou shoots Bear. Ed is distracted by the low flying chopper, Peggy runs out and calls it a flying saucer because she's batshit and in a high stress situation.
Erstwhile, Rye, while high on coke, suffering from blood loss, and freaking the fuck out, sees the shiny baloon reflecting the light from the waffle house/peggy's car and interprets it as exactly what you see in that scene - a flying source of light.
There is no way there are aliens. It's completely possible that Peggy sees aliums, that I'm more than happy to accept. But Fargo simply isn't sci-fi or supernatural, not in fact and not in effect.
If I'm wrong about the UFO being misdirection, I will never tripfag again.
>>63620633
They already did Chigur with Malvo
Last seasn: Fargo & No Country for Old Men
Season 2: Miller's Crossing and The Man Who Wasn't There
>>63623125
Keep trying someone will think you're cool one day
>>63623137
Sadly Noah Hawley said that it is UFO... literally
I wish he would have said its up to interpretation but oh well.
Still a phenomenal season
>>63623137
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/fargo-creator-noah-hawley-talks-847707
screencapping your post so if you don't get rid of your trip everyone will know you for the filthy liar you are
>>63623272
You could just watch the show and not look that stuff up.
>>63623272
No he didn't. He said he wanted it to be unambiguous that a UFO is what you see on camera. He said he wanted audiences to see a UFO. He wanted there to be no doubt that the flying thing over the motel looks like a ufo, sounds like a ufo and does ufo things like flying around without disturbing the wind.
But this is a fictional tv series and the plain facts are that you can't rely on any of the perspectives you get in that scene. Lou's been choked out, Bear has four bullets in him, Peggy's a crazy woman... there's simply too much ambiguity.
And again, Fargo the movie, Fargo season one, and Fargo season two to date have made no forays into sci-fi/supernatural territory. Fuck, you even had the protagonist from season one cramming it down your throats the whole episode that people are unclear about the events that unfolded.
It literally couldn't be any more obvious that the ufo is misdirection.
>>63623402
>completely ignores direct quotes from the creators because it doesn't fit his headcanon
why are tripfags always so stupid?
>>63623596
I'm not ignoring them. My reading of the show is completely compatible with Hawley's comments. Perhaps even more so than the interpretation that there are literally aliens in the Fargo universe.
>>63623651
>admitting to confirmation bias
no matter what we show you you'll keep believing your own headcanon so there's no point, consider yourself filtered friend :)
>>63623402
theres always some sort of supernatural element to Fargo and its very ambiguous. Season 1 it was biblical, this season its more sci-fi.
