How the FUCK did they do this?
This is realer than real life.
Why didn't they just CGI muscles on Wonder Woman?
whats the purpose of cgi-ing that ?
The technology to pay dead celebrities nothing to use them in movies is a big deal. Why wouldn't they showcase it in Antguy?
>>63502820
Source?
>>63502820
what happens ?why is it bad ?
When does Roger Stark get his own movie
>>63502820
What am I supposed to be seeing?
>>63502820
what am I looking at and what's supposed to be CG? Blood?
>>63502959
>>63502969
less old douge
>>63502863
Would have been too much budget
>>63502969
>>63502959
michael douglas looks like he's in his 40s again?
i'm not really sure what OP is getting at
>>63502934
>>63502959
>>63502969
I was as confused but quick look at the archive suggests its from ant man. They made this guy look way younger than he actually does using cgi.
>>63502820
>How the FUCK did they do this?
In the olden days, they would combine CG with real life to create a seamless blend. The ilk of which can be seen in Jurassic Park, District 9, etc. Nowadays everything is CG with no tangible objects involved so when you see practically used CG it's uncanny.
>>63502959
It is quite convincing (I didnt know what were you talking about since I havent seen Ant Man). But well, you can notice that the CGI is still too smooth.
>>63502820
Tron Legacy BTFO
>>63502820
Who else would still kill to motorboat Grandma Carter?
>>63502959
>>63502969
Michael Douglas is old. Basically, they rejuvenated him through CGI. I think.
To this day, I still don't know what the fuck they did, it's too good. By far the most amazing sequence in the movie.
Also, Stark's father is now forever roger sterling for me.
>>63503023
that much ?
>>63502820
Why the FUCK did they cast someone who looks nothing like John Slattery as young Howard Stark?
>>63503036
Oh god he started turning into his Dad
>>63503063
Well he's 70
>>63503062
Because Roger Sterling is so much better than that douche.
>>63503085
I know, that's why I asked why they didn't cast someone who looked like Roger Sterling
It's not CGI so much as it's highly customised textures tracked to the movement of his face. I don't think they even actually use a CGI model, it's more like photoshopping video.
When they watched the original footage to see what they had to work with, they all screamed in anguish at 32 seconds when he turns his head from straight-on to profile because of how difficult it was gonna be
>>63503152
>It's not CGI so much as it's highly customised textures tracked to the movement of his face. I don't think they even actually use a CGI model, it's more like photoshopping video.
Why didn't they do that for Tron Legacy?
>>63503127
Oh, sorry them.
Yeah, I had to come up with some crazy explanations in my own head to comfort me. If you look hard enough, you can picture him becoming god by his 70's.
Roger Sterling looks more faithful to his comic counterpart than this guy, desu.
>mfw I got excited because I thought it was a Mad Men thread
It's very good. There are a few frames here and there that are a bit off but honestly you have to be looking for the CGI to notice it.
It kinda looks better than the old lady makeup to be honest family
>>63502959
>>63502969
goes to show how good the effect is right?
>>63503082
Feed me Babies
>>63502820
that mouth movement is fucking terrible
why is that shit so fucking hard to get right
this whole thread is fucking retarded
>>63503188
Because, as we've known since the releases of Jurassic Park and Toy Story, CGI is the future and can do anything! They keep trying to convince themselves they can flawlessly render CGI skin without a second thought towards how bad it'll look in just five years time.
>>63503062
This still annoys me. I had no idea who John Slattery's character was supposed to be, I heard "Howard Stark" mentioned and was like wtf where?
I hadn't watched Iron Man since I was 12 so I only remembered the younger version, and it's just confusing as fuck because it's not even a recasting, it's two actors playing the same character while looking nothing alike
>>63503277
Slattery was in Iron Man 2
>>63503222
Because humans have a fuck ton of muscles in the human face especially around the mouth that allow both subtle and extreme movement. It's quite difficult to replicate 1:1
>>63503286
well that makes even more sense because I don't remember a single thing about watching Iron Man 2 except admiring Scarlett Johansson
It's better than straight CGI
>>63503262
Care to elaborate on that shithead? You're contributing even less.
I really want some effects studio or something to do a high-profile release of some test footage of a fully-CG human figure. Like, announce some massive breakthrough in the tech "indistinguishable from the real thing" etc.
Release the footage, watch people tear it to shreds and then hold a press conference to announce that it was just footage of an actual guy, no CG involved.
I think it could be a pretty good demonstration of the framing effect of watching something knowing in advance that it contains CG elements. People have some weird emotional bias against CGI, wouldn't mind seeing someone explore it a bit.
>>63503486
An animator called David O'Reilly did something like that. Made a tumblr of photo-real renderings, waited for people to either be picking it apart or saying it was amazing stuff, and then he eventually announced they were all just photos. They were objects though, not people.
>>63503486
I think that'd be pretty interesting. I mean looking back at it now it feels silly, but I had no idea young Jeff Bridges was CGI in Tron.
>>63503526
Thanks, I'll check that out.
They used footage with Douglas from old Wall Street movie.
>>63503023
This is insane, wow.
>>63502820
It's quite good CGI but I still noticed it immediately, he looks kinda plastic
>>63503270
>>63503188
I've only seen the end of Tron: Legacy, but wasn't CGI Jeff suppose to be a computer program?
If so, then isn't actrully a good thing that it looks fake and CGIy?
>>63503818
That reasoning would have been sound had they not also tried to pass the CGI off as actual Jeff Bridges in a flashback earlier in the movie.
Probably same shit they used on Benjamin Button--combination of makeup and CGI texturing. BB was less mature (pun) tech so they also had to use low lighting to cover up the rough edges. This is more impressive because there's no camera tricks, and they're taking off WAY more years from his face compared to Brad Pitt's.
>>63503303
so mocap it like they do in videogames
>>63503717
it still looked a lot better than if they tried to do it with makeup. Same for the other guy they de-aged.
>>63504416
It was the same studio; Lola. They also did the youngening of Xavier and Magneto in X-Men 3, and all the complicated head replacement stuff and I think thinning out the face for scrawny Steve Rogers at the beginning of Captain America.
>yfw the young actor market is officially killed off thanks to anti-aging CGI
>yfw another 40 years of Tom Hanks, Leonardo Dicaprio, Matthew McConaughey, Brad Pitt, RDJ, Tom Cruise, and Johnny Depp
>>63502820
I didn't even see this shit in the theather nor in the first thread this was shown in until someone pointed it out. I didn't even think "how did they make him young".
...are we entering theVR-waifuage?
>>63503219
This piece of shit is still hanging on because he knows when he dies he will be on an express elevator straight to hell.
He is well known in Hollyfucked, for his enjoyment of very young girls.
Not young teens, but children, girls under 10 years old.
Fucker is going to roast, he knows it, so he refuses to die.
Hope you have a great time in hell, Issur Danielovitch (real name), you worthless pedophile, manlet, kike.
>>63503486
Somewhat related, back in Batman Begins I think they wanted to do some stuff with CGI but Nolan told them to fuck off, it doesn't look good. They took a shot of Batman and replicated with CGI and basically had Nolan sit down to watch them and see if he could tell the difference. Turns out he totally could, but admitted that CGI made trying to duplicate existing footage looked so much better than something done from scratch.
>>63503858
Wow it actually looks worse than I remember
>>63502820
What are some actors you'd wish get the same treatment?
jhardmode: they have to be alive you fucking faggot I know you were about to say robin williams
>>63507311
Robin Williams
>>63502820
D R O P P E D
>>63504835
>Leo still won't win an oscar
>>63503635
I was thinking OP actually post a clip from this movie or some else 80's flick for kekking reasons. II'm not probably going to see Ant-man anytime soon so I just wonder the reason for this. But it's good, ok
>>63503403
They really shouldn't do this.
>>63507706
? Everyone's a merchant in show biz
>>63503023
How do you know they didn't just use old age make up in the second one?
>>63507311
The idea of that would probably piss him off actually
>>63503403
That's fucked up.
>>63503023
Science, bitch.
>>63505866
Hell isn't real.
>>63508038
I think they used his son and some goofy compositing in space cowboys.
>>63502820
>realer than real life
>>63502863
Why cast anorexic juden in the first place?
It actually looks a lot better in 1080p than in that webm. You can see mid-age wrinkles in 1080p.
That's impressive. His mouth looks a bit off and his face moves too much, but other than that it's impeccable.
>>63503403
oh wow i thought it was a car commercial. nope, whiskey.
>>63503573
>I had no idea young Jeff Bridges was CGI in Tron.
Really anon?
>>63504835
the tom hanks digital puppet?
it will win an oscar before leo does.
>>63505866
>He is well known in Hollyfucked, for his enjoyment of very young girls.
So, like the rest of Hollywood?
why isn't antman the hero of antman
>>63508099
Hell is real. It just happens now. Here. On /tv/.
>>63502820
>>63502943
Seriously, he has maybe a minute and a half of screentime and he's already one of the most interesting characters in the Marvel movies.
where is draper
>>63505866
nice dubs, nice copypasta
really hip meme, bro
>>63508890
Because latinos are fucking based
>tfw we'll never get a movie about Luis
>>63508890
Literally because Wright sat on Antman's script for too long
and because of that they had to make big changes like who made Ultron and who Antman was going to be behind the mask
>>63508858
Every FUCKING time. I can't help but lose my shit at the gargantuan Vin and the tiny Dwayne.
>>63508062
hey reddit!
>>63503023
>h-hey r-rick, you can't just make yourself look younger just so you can act in a movie
>f-fuck*burp* fucking watch me, morty
>>63502820
It's impressive until he starts moving, then you can tell.
>>63509052
he is discount john leguizamo
>>63503152
>its not CGI so much as its CGI to track the movement of his face. I don't think they even actually use CGI, its more like CGI
u am smar
>>63509335
no john leguizamo is discount john leguizamo
also can we talk about how bad Violator was in the Spawn movie?
>>63503023
This really did blow me away. Makes me think if they waited to have this tech Tron could of been even better.
Can't wait to see who else gets made young.
>>63502820
Impressive, but some of the mouth movements look off. If i didn't know who Michael Douglas was though i probably wouldn't have noticed it.
>>63507706
Joke's on you, jewdom is passed on through the mother, so he's a drunk, stoned, surrendering sheepfucker in lederhosen.
>>63502820
Tape around the back of his neck to pull the skin back.
>>63508755
>Johnnie Walker presents
>I thought it was a car commercial
Retard
>>63502820
Whats the fucking point?
Why didn't they just hire a younger actor?
>>63503277
>hadn't watched Iron Man since I was 12
Wait. That fucking blows my mind.
>>63502820
>They could of brought 40s MD back for anything
>it's capeshit
Kino is dead
>>63509573
what the fuck
who is that?
>>63502893
It's set in the past and the actor is old now?
>>63509010
is this a spicy hot fresh reddit post I've come upon?
>>63509577
enjoy your cirrhosis
>>63502820
Anyone else feel like Ant Man was just a remake of Iron Man?
>serum = reactor
>ant suit = iron man suit
>evil CEO guy trying to sell the tech
>>63509582
Because it looks shit. It takes me out of films and tv shows when the younger or older version of a character has completely different facial features.
Interstellar is a good example. The ending would have had a lot more impact if it was Jessica Chastain in old woman make-up rather than some random old woman who looked nothing like her.
>>63503403
That still looks like a video game to be honest family.
>>63509665
Pee Wee Herman
>>63509665
looks like paul reubens as pee wee herman with skin taped back
>>63509665
fucking paul reubens for pee wee new movie
go watch pee wees big adventure right now
>>63509701
> anon would be great at cinema sins
> ding
>>63509665
Pee Wee
>>63509701
It is almost like capeshit is always the same thing where the hero gets their powers and then they fight someone with similar powers/origins who is a dick.
>>63509718
wow. the hands never lie.
>>63503403
>>63509710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qniv8gbmFBw&t=50
looks like michael j fox/emilio estevez
>>63502820
Jesus. I didn't even notice it at all it was so natural when watching the movie. How jarring is that if you are watching it the first time and you actually notice it? Glad I was able to keep my suspension of disbelief for that.
I guess in the future this will be far more common and less jarring for people to see if at all.
>>63503033
I volunteer
>>63509759
looks like he has downs syndrome
>>63502820
Feels like they spent 80% of their budget on this scene. So many shitty looking cgi afterwards
>>63503033
She looks a lot better than she should if you ask me, isn't she at least 60 in that scene?
>>63503403
>no sound
fucking /tv/ get your shit together already. /wsg/ can't have all the fun.
>>63504835
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/12/what-makes-tom-hanks-look-like-tom-hanks/419238/
(skip to 1:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ladqJQLR2bA
>>63508858
Why do some men have that insane wrinkly neck?
>>63509718
Fuck, is he macking on Maeby?
>>63509704
Indeed.
>>63509887
Those are gill slits, anon.
>>63509887
He has worked out so much that he has over-stressed his body.
>>63509704
That always looks silly. And people's faces change a lot. My grandmother is unrecognizable if you look at a picture in her 20s.
>>63502820
>Moustache dude
Hey, it's that guy from Spotlight who plays Birdman's boss.
>>63509950
It is about bone structure and facial expressions. The former requires the same actor and the later requires an exceptional actor if it is to be someone else. These are the only cues you have to work with. If anything is wrong with either one, the effect is lost.
>>63507706
>English, Irish, Welsh, Dutch, Scottish, Belgian, French
why do Americans try to sound so important? Just put 'American'
>>63508673
>juden
thats why
I love how Ridley Scott just went ahead and hired a 45 year old man to play a 116 year old man and nobody questioned it.
>>63509397
you mean the only good character in the spawn movies right?
>>63510023
So true.
>>63509998
Maybe his mother wasn't from America? maybe American means Native American?
>>63510005
It looks really bad in this movie.
>>63509903
Paul and his co-star, Alia Shawkat -26-
It seems the 62-year-old actor is attempting to preserve the character's youthful look.
He was seen taping the back of his neck, perhaps to smooth out sagging skin, while on the set of Pee-wee's Big Holiday in New York
>>63510087
BIG
>>63510005
Is that supposed to be age wrinkles? Doesn't he know that 100 year olds have less wrinkles cause the skin gets all smooth and droopy like pic related and here >>63503219
>>63509701
Oh, you watch cinema sins too?
>>63503036
>>63503023
>>63502820
Legit thought it was Emilio Estevez till he slammed the homies head on the table. Damn bruh
>>63509718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLrYzY3jVPY
>>63510206
Have you never seen an old person up close?
>>63502820
the skin in his cheeks near his nose move to much. its like you can literally see where they mapped out his face.
>>63510332
100 isn't an old person, it's an ancient person
You can't really compare them
>>63502820
Amazing CGI thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcn4p213Zg8
>>63509573
>>63509665
>>63509718
>>63510087
Makes sense. People wear makeup and it does the exact same thing. The Pee Wee character is essentially a robot-faced character with very smooth surfaces and strong lines. Like the character is made from wood or something.
>>63502820
this movie sucked so much cock.
Douglas without CGI
>>63508099
Whatca mean? We're in hell right now.
>>63503062
Shit, didn't think about that. Dominic Cooper would be blacklisted by Marvel now he's doing Preacher, shame.
>>63511375
Oh you
>>63511824
damn lucille bluth is sexy old vixen
>>63509629
>2008 was 8 years ago
>>63502820
How did they make Kirk Douglas look so young?
>>63510206
There are plenty of 90 year olds with terribly wrinkled skin like Prometheus.
>>63512030
If I remember correctly they got a bunch of people who looked like him to help with the process. I'm not sure where I read it.
>>63508858
So he isn't just standing next to him, as some sort of symbolism?
what thge fuck is the source on 'OPs video?
>>63503036
I would be impressed, but when you look in his eyes things get kind of wonky. Didn't have to watch twice to see that it's pretty flawed.
I'm sure it can be improved in the future.
>>63512957
His eyes are real. It's not a wholly CGI face.
>>63505866
Based
>>63502820
What the hell is this from a workprint version or something? It looked great in the theatre but this looks pretty bad.
>>63509758
My crush has ugly hands but the rest of her looks remarkably young. She's 23 but barely looks 18 besides her ghoulish hands.
>>63509665
Ed Helms
>>63503033
Me. No shame about it either.
>>63509758
That is literally my tell when I'm scoping out a woman in a shop or something and she's facing the other direction.
The hands tell all.
>>63503036
>To this day, I still don't know what the fuck they did, it's too good. By far the most amazing sequence in the movie.
makeup to help blend the cgi
full facial mocap
hdr grabs of the scene
3d scan into >rescultping in zbrush
morph maps for facial blends and displacement blends
render
composite
done, basically just cgi, but they used morph maps to help the facial rig, something that isnt exactly new butw hen doen rigth does make for some good results
>>63510005
I questioned it. That honestly seems like one of the worse examples. The wrinkles don't look right.
>>63510005
>I love how Ridley Scott just went ahead and hired a 45 year old man to play a 116 year old man and nobody questioned it.
he didnt, you can thnk Lindelof for that
Weyland was supposed to have a much bigger part n the movie, with a lot of him being young
But 10 script rewrites and after all other shots were cut out we were just left with the old man bits and way too late to recast and reshoot.
Apparently it was a combination of a lookalike of young Douglas and CGI
>>63511740
No he isnt blacklisted. He's on Titty Carter's show.
>>63509302
kill yourself reddit.
>>63503277
Iron Man 2 came out in 2010.
>underaged b&
That was honestly the most impressive part of the movie. It looked amazing in the theaters.
>>63514436
If he watched it when he was 12 in june of 2010 and had his birthday in july, he would be 18 at the moment.
>>63508776
I think at the time it seemed off to me but I couldn't put my finger on it. I hardly knew who Jeff Bridges was and didn't know CGI was capable of that so I just didn't really question.
I dislike how its use is criticised tho, they wanted to create a young Jeff Bridges for the purpose of the movie and they were successful. Even if it doesn't look 1:1 with real life it's really not far off it, and I think it's a pretty significant milestone.
>>63503573
anon pls
>>63502820
They used Paul Walker's twin brother and then they copypasted young Douglas face on him
I'm going to go with makeup
>>63514436
>>63514542
I watched Iron Man 1 when I was 12, I didn't realise Howard Stark was in Iron Man 2 because I'm just going off what I remember reading on Wikipedia lmao
