ITT: the point when you literally fucking dropped a show because it jumped the shark so badly
>Pic very fucking related
>>63446703
I love this meme
>I spent 9 hours of my life watching it but now l'll drop it because l can't understand what happened
>>63446703
You got to take things symbolically, you could say he saw the light or perhaps god.
>>63446770
what's there to understand. it's like they couldn't figure out how to get lou out of there and came up with the UFO idea. then they added the other sightings to the earlier episodes
>>63446770
>you just dont get it
>you're too stupid to understand that its an exaggerated telling of the real story
no, it was shit before this point, this just pushed it miles beyond that.
also, how can anyone enjoy this shit ?
>all the characters are not likeable in anyway >its seriously unfunny but tries so hard to be
>lots of terrible cgi blood when people get shot
>shit setting
yeh enjoy
>>63446873
Again, you watched 9 hours of a show and dropped it on its penultimate episode, the plebiest thing a person can do
>>63446873
>>you're too stupid to understand that its an exaggerated telling of the real story
Its entirely fictional. Nothing shown ever happened.
>>63446846
It's like they couldn't figure it out?
>Lou reaches his gun
>Shoots Bear
The UFO was a deliberate choice inclusion, it wasn't a deus ex machina because it barely influenced the events, and the events that did transpire could easily have been written without the inclusion of the UFO.
>>63446846
Except that would be FUCKING STUPID.
Also Rye wouldn't have been run over without that UFO at the beginning.
>>63446703
>starts the show out with a UFO
>T-There j-jumping the shark!!
>>63446770
uhhh there was clearly a giant fucking cgi flying saucer complete with cgi aliens looking out the window faggot. Are you literally retarded? It's not a metaphor or symbolism IF IT'S THE ACTUAL FUCKING THING.
>>63446873
you're a fucking retard senpai
>>63446873
"likable"
Top pleb.
>>63448359
So you have no idea what a deus ex machina is, but are commenting anyway.
That's cool.
>>63446846
the fact that they could have easily written lou to arrive after the shootout or to drive home should tell you that this is completely deliberate you donkey fag
>>63446703
Flash ep. 1
>>63446873
>shit setting
Wew lad
>>63446703
This is the worst type of deus ex machina. I still love the show.
Who cares about the UFO, I am more bothered by the non stop use of split screens. Just drop that shit already.
>>63449189
>Too underage to know the 70s stylistic aesthetic
lmao
>>63449084
>>63448509
I don't get it, how is it a deus ex machina?
>>63449406
>"deus ex machina"in a play referred to the act of lowering a god on stage (...) to decide in a dilemma and give fate a nudge, so to say.
>These days, deus ex machina has the negative connotation of an utterly improbable, illogical or baseless plot twist that drastically alters the situation... (...)
I was actually eagerly waiting for the aliens to come and when they finally did it was so satisfying
Sucks to be you OP
>>63449254
Everyone hated it in the 70s. It was an aesthetic that was experimented with, and discarded quickly.
>>63449608
Plebs hated it. Fargo is a patrician show and so uses patrician film making techniques from the era the show is set. It's not hard to grasp if you have a film education.
>>63449650
FX is the plebbait channel. Fargo is for plebs.
>>63449406
>I don't get it, how is it a deus ex machina?
what a stupid nigger
>>63449650
If you had a film education, you'd know screen splitting was discarded because you couldn't have anything interesting happen in any of the splits. So why rather than trying to put more uninteresting crap on the screen at the same time, why not just do interesting shots?
God you people are fucking stupid.
If I'm a military pilot testing a prototype airplane, and I spot a motel being shot up with dead people everywhere, don't you think I'd stop and try to get their attention and get them to stop?
Not having any weapons mounted, all I can do is just shine some lights around.
>>63446846
Come on, have a little faith. Just wait and see where it goes before judging.
>>63449864
>If I'm a military pilot testing a prototype airplane, and I spot a motel being shot up with dead people everywhere, don't you think I'd stop and try to get their attention and get them to stop?
No. They're really strict about this sort of thing.
>>63449938
I'm disobeying orders for the sake of twenty people literally in danger of having their life lost.
I'm sure command won't object too harshly, if they even know I'm breaking protocol.
>>63449497
>that drastically alters the situation
it didn't drastically alter the situation though
it altered it, but not drastically
>>63449084
>deus ex machina
Rewatch the previous 8 fucking episodes.
>>63446703Felt bad for floyd, but Hanzee DID try to talking her out of it, I'm sure /tv/ was in a tizzy that she mouthed off about how MEN had screwed up all this time and now look what happened
>>63449983
>main characters get to live
>not drastic alteration
>those posters that think Fargo is a 'patrician' show
>>63449982
>he doesnt know anything about how things work in the military
>>63446703
found it hilarious how literal aliens outta nowhere were less of a shark jump than Nip/Tuck in its later seasons
>>63450823
Any single episode of Fargo has more kinographical merit than the entirity of Malick's post-70s output combined.
>first season literally has the devil as a main character
>everybody loves it, 10/10
>second season literally has aliens in it
>boo, 0 stars
/tv/ has the worst watchers of anything. It's like these people fear quality.
>>63451028
go back to reddit and you wont have to deal with /tv/s shit anymore
>>63449982
>I'll just take this top secret aircraft and do whatever the fuck i want with it, no one will mind
I liked the episode but the story telling narrative out of nowhere, this late in the season, was strange as fuck
>>63451350
Every episode's had some weird narrative filigree like that, like the War of the Worlds bit, the times we've started off with Ronald Reagan movies, and it looks like next episode has Lou narrating it.
Fargo has always been rooted in absurdity and cartoonishness, if that hasn't been obvious in the scenarios and characters and dialogue of this season then you're clearly a pleb for putting up with characters like Peggy and Mike without the knowledge that they're intentionally goofy and still enjoying the show as if it were a self-serious, realist story.
>>63446846
>shot in the head, and twice in the chest
They easily could have made it where he had just bled out, or lou does manage to reach the gun in time
The ufo intervening was not the only way they could have saved lou at all like you say it is
>>63451913
>>shot in the head
He hit his ear.
I loved it. Television needs more magical realism instead of being so god damn serious all the time. It's what made this past season of The Leftovers so good.
>>63451997
Watch the scene again, lou was standing at the side of bear when he shot
No way that could have grazed him
>>63452051
Was aiming at a moving target, if he was actually hit in the head he'd be dead, instead we see his mangeled ear, it clipped him
was way too patient for this show
>>63452077
Look at the angle he was shooting from
Doesnt matter if bear was moving, if he hit his ear from that angle, it would have hit his head too
>>63451028
What makes you think Lorne Malvo was the devil?
>>63452284
>i haven't had apple pie like this since the Garden of Eden
People really ran with that line and his supposed indestructibility.
>>63446703
>dropped
I wouldn't go that far, it still is a very good show. And I think that the beginning of the episode kinda foreshadows the UFO coming straight into the camera.
>books opens
>handwriting
>someone narrating the facts as he knows them
We know that Minesotta had a lot of reports of UFOs at the time.
Every episode reminds us that the story is told exactly as it was passed down. In this episode this is written on a fucking book that is handwritten. You know where I'm going: they just told the events exactly as they found them described, with fucking UFOs.
>>63452284
well, for starters, there's the fact he's the fucking devil.
>>63452590
I think you're looking too much in to it.
>>63452508
He wasn't so indestructible in the final episode.
>>63452527
(Cont.)
There's also the fact that they stopped multiple times to tell us about the accuracy of the facts about Hanzee. Meaning that they actually know what they're doing.
My best theory so far is that they just found bits of UFOs related stories in the documents that helped them rebuild all the events and they just went with it.
This is just in line with S1 and the Assassin guy character (I don't remember his name). It was totally crazy too, just on another level.
Season 1 was better.
>>63452669
S'why I said "supposed"
>>63448285
>9 hours
not watching torrents or streams, pretty pleb to me bruh
I just figured the indian went through some form of PTSD when he was in the cabin. After that he just covered his tracks after flipping out
All these reddit faggots defending this shit season.
Fucking faggots, go back to reddit with your cocksucking retarded opinions, faggot.s
Both seasons were about that Breaking Bad audience and nothing more. Stop pretending it's more than a dumb fun show and likewise stop analysing it as if it's any more than that.
>>63449497
Jesus Christ I thought the saucer was redundant but it wasn't a deus ex machina you drooling manchildren. What the fuck did it do, in the end? Lou could've gone for the gun, Peggy could've thrown that shit in Hantheman's face, nothing really changed.
>these are the fucktards I share a forum with
God strike me down
ITT non Americans who know nothing of UFO culture in America
>>63449846
If you had a film education, you would be able to articulate yourself in more depth than with words like "un/interesting".
>>63450117
He's actually tearing up because of what he had to do to Floyd. But it had to be done
>>63453048
Eat cock, UFOs are American as apple pie, faggot yourpoor.
>>63452845
>>63452641
There's also the fact that he runs around causing mischief for no reason, sowing discord, and corrupting people. Such as influencing Lester, and getting mild mannered Gus Grimly to unleash the beast within and kill him. Should rewatch and look at this facial expression before he dies.
There's also the fact that he demonstrates supernatural powers and the overt symbolism with the blood wings in the elevator.
>>63452508
In the garden of eden was the snake the devil?
Cause thats what i think malvo is now
>>63453133
>reading comprehension
>>63453209
>>63452641
>>63452590
>>63452284
guy's the devil, man.
>>63452878
Can't argue with that desu
>>63453133
based
fucking
retard
>>63453251
>In the garden of eden was the snake the devil?
No that was Crowley.don't call him Crawley
>>63452508
>>63453280
>Lou got to see both aliens and Satan in his lifetime
>>63453133
>perpetuating the stereotype this hard
>proving americlaps are incapable retards this effectively
>shitting your own bed to this extent
B R A V O
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>>63446703
>plebs can't handle aliens: the thread part 12
I hope the aliens take Peggy up into their ship and do some probing.
>first 8 episodes mention/allude to aliens
AYY LMAO 11/10 PATRICIAN
>UFO on screen for 10 seconds in episode 9
wtf they jumped the shark, what a meme show
>what /tv/ actually believes
>final scene in the finale is old Lou telling the story to Greta
>"Wow, grandpa, did all that really happen?"
>"Everything except the aliens bit. What are you, stupid?"
>Lou winks
>DIRECTED BY NOAH HAWLEY.
Would /tv/ like this, yes/no?
>>63453525
its just a vocal minority, and all of the people bitching right now will still tune in for the finale and shitpost incessantly about the show for months to come
>>63446703
The episode where Spongebob fell in love with a patty
>>63453542
would laugh if that happened
Paranormal shit in season 3 CONFIRMED. Hopefully the ghost of Lorne Malvo shows up.
>>63449497
>baseless plot twist
>drastically alters the situation
It's not baseless because aliens have been in every episode, and it didn't drastically alter it. It's not deus ex machina. I know because the UFO appeared in the sky - where all UFO's appear, by their nature - you equate it with a God being lowered to the stage, but you really have no idea how Deus Ex Machina has actually been used in plays or dramas.
>63453561
>for months to come
That's not how FOTM works.
So the final episode will be Lou vs Hanzee vs Ed and Peggy?
>aliens don't exist
>>63453876
we still have to know why / how did Hank conjure up the ayyyy
>>63446703
I was so amazed when this happened. I literally laughed out loud finally realizing the true genius and talent behind the show.
I'm glad you didn't like it.
>>63450890
Why? What happened in Nip/luck?
>its a /tv/ doesnt understand something so they get upset and throw a fit episode
>>63453542
kek
>>63453976
/x/ pls go
>>63446703
So you were totally fine with it in the first episode but because it happened in the ninth you took off your adult diaper and started shit flinging?
>>63454174
It got really fucking retarded really fucking fast.
Did /tv/ get this mad over the fish rain? I could've sworn it was just shrugged off as random happenstance.
so is malvo an alium experiment like hanzee or is he the devil? they share a lot of parallels. also, here's something u might not have noticed:
you know the rating block for fargo? "MA LV"? add o to that. lel. possibly where the name originated
>>63446703
More like the point where this season was confirmed GOAT
How are people complaining about Aliens being unrealistic? Considering the size of the universe wouldn't it more realistic if there WEREN'T aliens?
>>63446703
...How could this have been a "jump the shark" moment when it just happened?
You guys know what the term means, right?
>>63454419
this
>>63449189
>being this wrong
fuck off, they use it excellently. they dont have to keep cutting back and forth between each character's faces. it's a well executed way to keep the action going and show events happening simultaneously
>>63454461
What's unrealistic isn't aliens existing, it's aliens visiting. Especially in ships smaller than your average moon.
>>63454395
MALeVOlent
:^)
>>63454642
well obviously it wasnt the mothership
its obviously a helicopter
reminder that Charlie Gerhardt is the next Gerhardt chief, with camusfu waiting at home
>>63446703
historically, the area the show takes place in has been a hotbed of UFO activity for decades. There are also several military bases around there.
OP is as faggy as it gets.
>>63454467
>You guys know what the term means, right?
>>63448439
>CGI aliens
Lol no m8
>>63454693
>you will never have a fucked up arm that you get use as a battering ram against that teenage puss
Why even live?
>Hank spend the whole season summoning the Ayys in order to save his daugther
>They finally arrive to answer his call
>He can't see them because he's half dead
>daughter is already dead
2/10 retarded ayys, shame of the galaxy
How did Lou manage to shoot Bear's ear without taking out his brain at the angle he was shooting from?
If we actually see the aliens in the finale,would /tv/ be for or against that at this point?
>>63454730
This. Any tinfoil-hatter worth his salt knows the 70's were ripe these types of "incidents." Also the whole era was also pretty much defined by the burgeoning mistrust of the government thanks to the war in Vietnam and then Nixon.
>>63454798
maybe he did
>tfw Woodbine has been my most underrated since American Presidents.
All the best to that man.
He's my first choice to replace the vacuum since Hackman's retirement.
>refers to them as "South Dakota State Police"
South Dakota has never had a branch of law enforcement known as the State Police. They have Highway Patrol, that's all. Nice research.
>>63454914
>American Presidents
*Dead Presidents
So are aliens attracted to violence? Both times they showed up it was after a "massacre".
That asian guy from episode 3 at the gas station refered to them as benevolent and said they appear in sets of 3. Maybe they were trying to help but showed up late both times. And maybe they'll show up again in the finale.
what the fuck happened this episode?
It's a fucking narrator reading a book all of a sudden and what's up with the alien ufo shit? is the show 2deep4me?
>>63446703
>aliens in the pilot
Dude aliens! Awesome, wonder what else they'll add!
>hints and clues every episode pointing to more aliens
Dude aliens! When will they show more?!
>aliens in second to last episode
Dude worst show ever dues ex maraschino what hax this show es gay ¡
You guys are the worst
>>63454999
The narrator is actually Martin Freeman.
>>63452284
Disappears from the windowless basement in the first episode
>>63448397
>rye
I just thought he was high as fuck and he was seeing things that wasn't real
i wish that was what really happened
>>63455011
See:
>>63453525
You're a little late to the show friendo.
>>63446703
Sucks to be a pleb.
>massacre being exaggerated since the first season
>aliens since the first episode
>episode narrated at the beginning which strongly implies this was some sort of unreliable narrations of the events
>b-but muh realism
>>63454319
Shit like that actually happens though
>>63454999
The narration in this episode happens for two reasons:
>1. To double down on the "this is a true story, look we're reading right out of a history book" thing, right before showing aliens. Hawley has said that yeah, in this true story, aliens appear.
>2. To hang a lampshade on Hanzee's inexplicable motives
>>63454999
the showrunner thinks so low of his fans that he believed they needed to explain everything
>>63446873
>le likeable character
T O P P L E B
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>>63455122
>implying Aliens don't actually exist
>>63446703
This episode was amazing.
>>63455108
>massacre being exaggerated since the first season
I don't think you can call it an exaggeration at this point. I mean there's almost a dozen dead people at the hotel alone.
>cancer
:(
Guys.
Guys.
What if, in the finale, the spaceship lowers, and we see a silhouetted figure walk casually toward Ed and Peggy.
We hear a familiar voice say "You've done well, Peggy. I'll take it from here."
Peggy waves goodbye to Ed and is beamed aboard the ship.
The figure casually slits Ed's throat.
The camera slowly pans up until we see his face. And it'sMalvo.
>>63455108
>several cops gunned down while sleeping in a hotel
>plus all the dead gangsters
That definitely would have been called a massacre back then.
>>63454798
He clipped his ear and shot him through the neck.
why was the ufo cumming?
Even my wife's kids thought it was stupid. There's no defending it.
>>63454797
Hank IS an ALIEN. He gets shot and they show up. Every time he's on screen its before or after someone sees symbols or theres a sky glare. He leaves Peggy after getting hit in the face and just drives away. The final scene will be hank bringing dead cancer wife to a field, being abducted, waving at Lou and she will wake up in the air and look down at him.
>>63455257
he cant be the devil and an alien, you pleb
>>63455283
they heard Dodds daughter was getting BLACKED
>>63455199
>>63455275
I think you missed the 'unreliable narration' part, friends. Know how people always exaggerate old stories? The episode was a representation of that.
>>63455101
Great minds think alike (:
>>63454844
Depends on how well written the aliens' dialogue is
>>63455304
Don't forget the room in his house with alien symbols on the wall that cancer wife discovers.
>>63455257
that would just be nonsense fanservice
>>63455322
>implying demons don't disguise themselves as aliens to gain easier human interest
No one wants to mess with a demon, but everyone would jump at the chance to see aliens
>>63455325
It wasn't unreliable narration. The narrator had insights into character motivation and is an impartial observer.
>>63455325
If that wasn't a massacre, then how many people need to die at once for it to be one?
>>63453525
seriously. This is how fucking stupid this board is.
>>63455257
It should be that psychiatrist she hallucinated
>>63455298
>wife's kids
C U C K
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>>63453525
Its because before this episode the ayys had a nice unseen monster cthulu vibe going for them
Having a giant ufo appear out of nowhere just for the sake of plot convenience ruins that
>>63455400
Yes, it was. The narrator had no insight into character motivation more than anyone told him/he read. Feel free to provide proof he did.
>>63455432
Missing the point. I'm certain it was bad just not as crazy as it was represented.
>mfw literal retards can't understand that the events of the entire season would have never taken place if it wasn't for the UFO in episode 1
>>63455122
not in the middle of winter in Minnesota when the lakes are all frozen.
>>63455530
why do you need to know motivation? a shit load of cops and other people died in a gunfight. Imagine any news station reporting on that after it happened, they would call it a massacre.
How long have the aliens been following hank and his family anyways
>>63455526
>just for the sake of plot convenience
yeah it would have been so hard to write a resolution without the aliums :((
>>63455650
Hank is an alien, bro.
>>63455161
To be fair, taking one glance at this thread I would say that the showrunners were decidedly correct in thinking that.
>>63455400
The narrator frequently admits to having murky information about certain pieces of dialogue and motivations.
>>63455530
He literally tells you the reason Hahnzee does what he does, then shows the moments when it happens. The narrator fills in the gaps that don't make it into the "history books."
>the not actualised
The ayy lmaos were extremely well done. They were hinted at, almost an aftertought in the season. They were teased as maybe a drug induced vision from Rye, allured to with the War of the Worlds soundtrack, occasionally a bright light, that guy Lou talked to who came to Minnesota for the UFO sightings, and Hank's weird drawings
But really it was such a minor, small, tiny element in the show that revolved entirely around the actual people on earth, none of them (except Rye) made different decisions because of it. And today was such a tense episode that built itself up so well to the massacre we all knew was coming a long time ago, to then introduce the UFO was not a copout at all but just a nice raise of the comic absurdity that Fargo is known for.
The fight was mostly over by the time the ayylmaos arrived, all they did was tilt the Bear/Lou fight to his favor, same with Hanzee. The UFO appearance just made the episode even better, and it gave Peggy a great line after such a dark shootout and everything getting completely fucked
What I do hope is they don't make it a central element of the series in the final episode now, but they carry on focusing on the characters with little extra-terrestrial intervention
The narrator choice bothered me more, the ufo element just lifted this season a bit more than it would without it
>>63455725
the narrator is literally speculating about something he cant know for sure
>>63455674
that's honestly the only explanation to the shit in his secret room
>>63455798
historian debates
>>63455697
>The narrator frequently admits to having murky information about certain pieces of dialogue and motivations.
Only when talking about Hanzees exact motives for betrayal. The rest of what happen at the motel doesn't need to be explained by a characters motivation, the amount of people who die is what makes it a massacre. Are you saying the narrator is lying about the amount of people killed, or how they were killed?
>>63455632
Sure, that's the point. It was exaggerated from the get go by the media and word of mouth.
>>63455725
He literally says "historians from the region have long debated the next two words spoken by the Gerhardts' native man", and that he didn't know for sure his motivations which heavily implies what he said was the narrator's personal interpretation.
>>63455843
and why do you think would there be a debate between historians at all unless they didn't have all the facts?
>>63455800
he could just be a xenophobe
>>63455862
I'm not the original person you were talking to. I was just saying it's an unreliable narrator, nothing more. There are bits of the narrative that he has to fill in to the best of his ability: I wouldn't consider a body count to be one of those things.
>>63455923
Then I just disagree with you. I don't think its an exaggeration to call that many people killed in a shootout a massacre. The cops were ambushed while sleeping, they only had their undies on.
If thats not a massacre, then what is?
>>63446703
ITT: People attempt to make sense out of a show that has repeatedly made the point that some things are simply nonsensical.
>>63455923
>He literally says "historians from the region have long debated the next two words spoken by the Gerhardts' native man", and that he didn't know for sure his motivations which heavily implies what he said was the narrator's personal interpretation.
Then he gives more than one possible answer, implying that as the narrator he is impartial. There's no reason to assume he's lying about anything else.
>>63455784
shitty post
>>63456076
>lying
It's the narrators interpretation. How could he lie OR tell the truth about something he's only read about?
There's no objective truth. Just opinion.
You people are as dumb as a bag of hammers.
>>63456038
Anon you have serious reading comprehension problems. I'm not saying it wasn't a massacre, I'm saying it was exaggerated. We could also speculate the number of killed cops was inflated, but that would be pointless.
>>63456076
He's not impartial as he clearly gives his personal insight on things.
>>63456177
So its a True Crime themed show with a narrator that makes up all the details to the crime, nah not buying it.
>>63456053
what other times has it made the point that some things are simply nonsensical
>TD fags still salty about their shitty second season.
Get over it faggots.
>>63456247
malvo disappearing.
fish falling out of the sky
>>63453542
HECK YES :^)
tfw Malvo was an alyum.
>>63456243
I'm talking about the massacre, not the entire season and I didn't say all the details were made up, just exaggerated.
>True Crime
The show isn't True Crime at all, everything was made up. It's more Twin Peaks meets the X-Files if anything and doesn't really adhere to one single genre.
>>63456158
>>63456177
I think you're applying the term "unreliable narrator" wrong in this case. The narrator here has no attachment to the story and his speculations have no affect on the characters or the plot. If you'd been paying attention to the show then his "speculations" do little more than to reinforce what I and many others had already figured out.
>>63456390
I suggest you look up what an unreliable narrator is, third person unreliable narration is a thing.
Aliens save the day lalalalululu pew pew good guy gets up bad guy ded yaaay!!.
amazing twist
>>63456247
Peggy's self-help kick.
Reagan's baseless optimism.
Noreen reading Camus.
Mike quoting Jabberwocky.
The narrator outright stating that there are things nobody will ever know.
Peggy saying, "It's just a UFO, Ed."
The whole season has been suffused with these things that seem to have substance but fundamentally lack deeper meaning.
>>63456492
But what would be the point in this case?
>>63446873
There is no real story. Even the movie was not based on true events.
Molly did i ever tell you about the time a flying saucer saved me from certain death as i was slowly passing out as a local crime family leader was choking the life out of me in a motel parking lot? I knew it was real and i wasnt imagining it because the man stopped choking me and looked up in awe giving me a chance to shoot him in the head, I never spoke about it or investigated further and it had no impact on my life afterwards. The alien was a good friend.
>>63456383
>The events depicted took place in Minnesota 1979. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred.
>The book at the start of this episode is called A History of True Crime in the Mid West
>The show isn't True Crime at all,
>>63456412
To be fair, that show was batshit crazy before that moment
>>63455173
>>63448484
>>63448285
>le pleb :^)
meme loving faggots
>be a tinfoil hat
>gather materials about alyums your whole life
>get shot before a flying saucer appears
>>63455011
>dues ex maraschino
kek
nice dubs too
this alien crap is too much for me. Good show but it's getting out of hand for my tastes.
it just doesnt make enough sense
>>63456390
Do you think that the narrator is supposed to be the "voice of god" or something? Because you're clearly mistaken. It's an unidentified character offering his own analysis and interpretation of the events based on the historical record.
Not that it even really matters. The whole point is that only Hanzee knows for sure why he's doing what he's doing.
And the show is also making a point that trying to analyze the show to find his motivation is sort of pointless.
>>63456412
This got me so fking mad that i stopped watching anime.
>>63456553
>not wanting to be actualised
>not enjoying Bruce Campbell as Ronald Reagan
>not appreciating the nihilist teen reading a French philosopher who dedicated his career to opposing nihilism
>not listening to gangster Obama quoting Lewis Carroll poems
It's like you don't even want to be happy.
>>63456579
It's simple. One of this season's themes is folkloric tales, the massacre is was already hinted as such in the first season. The narrator is a representation of someone who wasn't there and only heard/read about the story.
>>63456639
It certainly has True Crime themes, but it isn't based on real events so it's not really TC.
>>63456738
>And the show is also making a point that trying to analyze the show to find his motivation is sort of pointless.
This is why patricians hate narration. When it's not using the unreliable narrator gimmick, all it does is spell out the obvious.
>>63456639
Ironically, the UFO is the most true thing about the story this season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMLom8BdeB4
>>63456655
Crazy stuff, even stupid stuff was happening, but nothing on this level of asspull.
>>63456743
Same.
>>63456802
no shit its fiction, It's still being told as a true crime.
>>63456765
i dunno who yo'uer quoting but i liek ur post
>>63456897
Do you know what the definition of True Crime is? Just because the show has TC themes doesn't mean it's TC.
Anyway, this is pointless to argue.
>>63456990
When hasn't it been pointless to argue here?
>>63457055
You got me there. I want off this ride.
>>63456590
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/fargo/truth-behind-true-story/
>>63456765
Who said I didn't enjoy any of those things?
I'm saying that all of those things represent absurdist nonsense with no deeper intended meaning.
Life Spring was a scam and borderline cult, with a message that was no deeper than "do what you want to do."
Reagan's optimism was charming but wasn't actually based on any sort of logic.
Camus was an absurdist who believed that humans live in a purposeless, chaotic universe.
Jabberwocky is a poem comprised almost entirely of made up nonsense words and is not meant to have an actual meaning.
For what purpose did the ufo shine it's beams on multiple people instead of just Lou?
>>63457255
because it was a really bright streetlight
>>63457255
it shined it on ed and peg's room specifically for some reason
Does anyone have a link to that synth music throughout this episode?
Also I only just realised Lou was in Season 1
>Drops hints about UFO's in just about every fucking episode
>UFO shows up
DROPPED!
Yeah ok.
While I dont like to drop the word pleb on people but there is a lack of understanding that the glue that holds the film, season one and two together is that it is a midwestern fairy tale. A tall tale that might have its origins in truth but as it's passed along embellishments are made. While yeah the UFO part might be made up to those who tell it but on the other hand things were so batshit crazy by all involved how could it be other than a UFO showing up at the crest of the madness?
I get it why this episode is so polarizing but I loved it and it was pretty goddam ballsy do do it
is fargo a meme show?
post pegfu
I got nothing good. she's so qt
god damnit peg
>>63457835
she was busy talking to that psychiatrist alium about being actualized
>>63455122
Na, fish rain was fucking retarded and the first season has some serious flaws.
The second season is infinitely better. Hell, even if you don't like the alien reveal you have to admit that Wilson and Woodbine have both been unreal.
>>63457206
Embrace the mystery, faggot.
>>63458157
>first season has some serious flaws.
Like what?
I'm not going to argue that it's better than second though, but it's still great.
So here's my bullshit theory.
Although i trust in Hawley that he knows what he's doing, theres no way in hell the UFO's are "real".
here's why.
We have only seen an actually tangible UFO twice, in the first episode, and the ninth. they have both appeared and acted as distractions to either save or kill someone.
NOBODY in the show who has seen this has called it a UFO or a flying saucer except for Peggy, who was in both of the scenes with them
>Rye just stares at the light
>Lou just stares at the light
>bear just stares at the light
same with everyone else, except Ed, who doesnt call it ANYTHING. He just says "are you seeing this?" which means it could be anything crazy.
who is the only person we know FOR A FACT sees things that arent there?
Peggy
when she was talking to the "doctor" in her head when she had Dodd tied up.
I think the saucers we are seeing are through Peggy's delusions disguising certain objects
>the foil balloon is most likely what the first UFO was.
>the "doctor" took place of Dodd, sitting in a chair.
I think we will find out exactly what was going on with Peggy, why she sees these mirages, and possibly what the thing outside the motel REALLY WAS.
we just know it was something that could have distracted hanzee and bear. something that was transformed into a UFO in Peggy's mind.
but idk.
>>63457929
I think peg is the only one that survives, who actually gets to tell her story for the "midwest crime book".
I don't see lou going through the embarrassment of saying he saw the aliens too.
I think it came from mostly from crazy ass peg
i just love peg so much. she's so dumb, and yet so cute
>>63458269
second season cheerleaders try to argue that malvo and lester being interesting and going through something that resembles development was "meme" and season 2 is better for all characters being flat cardboard cutouts.
>>63458269
I think it has too many subplots that go nowhere. They just seem to build up Malvo as a character, which is all well and good, but they are all ended poorly and really left me confused as to what the show was aiming for. Seems they also just wanted to shoe-horn in some cameos.
>Fish-Rain
>Glenn Howerton
>Key and Peele
Hell, even Wrench and Numbers and the attack on Fargo were a bit poorly handled. Nothing really had the pay-off that the set-up promised.
Also, I personally think the ending is just fucking strange. Malvo gets his leg hurt and stares at a fox and gets shot by Gus then Lester dies. I mean, I get it. It kind of homages No Country but it's not that strong and ending in it's own right and I felt it was poor compared to the start of the show and definitely to this season.
>>63458390
>season 2 is better for all characters being flat cardboard cutouts.
That's intentional.
>>63458419
That's literally a non-criticism.
Why do people not understand this show more about stylistic approachs to certain themes than muh realism and muh pay-off?
>>63458303
Probably the most likely theory, but I doubt we'll be spoonfed what everyone is actually seeing.
>>63458498
>Why do people not understand this show more about stylistic approachs to certain themes than muh realism and muh pay-off?
Of course it's a criticism. I called it poorly handled. It's not about my lack of understanding, it's that the show would have been better if it had a more consistent narrative thread and a better ending. Who brought up realism by the way? If anything I want it to be less realistic because I think it would be stronger with a pay-off, which doesn't happen in real life more often than not.
Also, the show is not that complex. It's shot well and it has people talk about death and morality and succumb to crazy unpredictable misfortunes of fate, sure. Let's not act like it's a proper examination with any depth, because it's not. Season 1 it's all a bit shallow and wanted to show Malvo doing cool things more than properly investigating any of the themes it alludes to.
>>63456743
Then you're one step closer to being a man.
>>63458419
I would agree with all those criticisms but I still like 1 more than 2. Lester's character arc was more satisfying to watch than anyone's in S2, and even if Malvo fucking around was filler that amounted to little it was more entertaining than this played out cops and gangsters shit. 9 episodes for all these Gerhardts to die and I didn't feel a thing for any of them but Simone, and then only a little.
>>63459110
Yeah, I get what you're saying but I have really enjoyed Woodbine, Wilson and Dunst a lot in this season.
I just don't really agree with a lot of the love that Season 1 seems to get when these flaws really stick out to me. Fair enough if they don't bother you, different strokes!
>>63448397
>OY VEY GOYS EVEN ALIUMS HATE GERMANS
I thought it was great.
reminder that season 1 had at least one scene where malvo disappeared completely like a ghost.
Also season 1 had a scene where fish rained down from the sky, when the only explanation would be if it was from a lake experiencing heavy winds driving up the water/fish.
the only problem is. those lakes in season 1 were completely frozen. There is NO WAY those fish could have been driven up that high at that point in time.
>>63458303
this isnt half bad,
but id really like them to have the balls to go through with real aliums. it'll filter out all the plebs.
>>63449189
the one of Milligan walking to the car and him looking around awkardly in the last episode was stupid as fuck. Ive liked the other ones where it was 2 characters at the same time.
>>63456705
Before he shouted "officer down", it definitely seemed like he forever missed his chance for an encounter
>>63453052
le deflecting meme
>>63449189
I hate it too. Its useful when comparing two different scenes, but its used during every scene transition to almost no significant effect
>>63456690
Says the faggot with one of the gayest gifs saved on his computer
Heres the obvious thing, everyone but Lou is going to die, so no one believes Lou about a flying saucer.
>>63459391
Dipshit muh realism plebs would rather have shit like this that they can come up with half baked bullshit explanations for then actually have the show commit to something.
Reminder that if you didn't like the UFO you should kill yourself
>>63452641
>>63452284
If you fail to recognize all of the clues leading to Malvo being the devil you're fucking blind and deaf. He tempts people to sin and enjoys seeing them being punished for it, he has a strange interest in religious imagery, church chorus serves as background music while he recites passages from the bible alluding to what is happening on screen, the police officer refers to his killings as 'work of some sort of devil', he showcases supernatural abilities, knows things about people no one could know, vanished from Lester's basement. I could go on.
>>63453525
They showed a UFO in episode 1 you numbskull
If you didn't like the UFO, you're just a pleb and that's fine, but reminder that you are literally retarded if you try and say "THEY ONLY USED THE UFO CAUSE THEY COULDN'T THINK OF ANOTHER WAY TO SAVE LOU"
They could've easily had Lou get out of the situation without it.
