Films vs. Movies
How can I know the difference?
Hello Reddit.
>>63443550
You don't. If you can't just enjoy whatever you're watching because you're wondering whether it's a 'film or a movie' then the shitposters of this board have won.
>>63443550
If you like it, its a flick, because you are a pleb.
Everything else is either a film or a movie.
>>63443550
if you actually have these meme thoughts in your everyday life then it's over man just kill yourself
>>63443571
Reddit: The opinion
>>63443582
So we're supposed to dislike films and movies?
>>63443550
If its pretentious as fuck with a foreign sounding title and director, its a film.
If its full of CGI and fart jokes its a movie.
What about motion pictures?
>>63443603
No, we are not you frogposter.
>>63443608
Movies are the ones discussed on /tv/.
Films are the ones derailed within two posts by /pol/.
>>63443670
Thanks, finally my pleb mind can comprehend what is what
>>63443679
>Star Wars
>film
Top kek
>>63443550
Alllllll theeeeeeee saaaaaaammmmmmmme
>>63443734
How to spot a pleb
>>63443550
Films innovate and are often amazingly well made and tell a great story
Movies are well done entertainment that have some flaws
Flicks are fast paced films, usually flashy that don't try too hard, often b-movies are flicks.
It's all about not being autistic to understand the difference.
>tfw french
>tfw we only have one word for film
dumb frogposter
>>63443789
is it film?
>>63443789
cinéma, cinématographe, cinérama, cinoche, projection, spectacle
>>63443550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsp05iSk7s
>>63443805
Yes
>>63443806
None of those words mean film as in "a film" though
>>63443774
Yes but you have to be autistic enough to care.
What a Catch 22 we have.
>>63443806
not a single one applies
>>63443806
> He thinks he knows French better than a French person
> CroakingFrogs.gif
Movies are made using a formula (favorite formula for this is Blake Snyder's BS2), focus groups, studio interferences, multi-pandering to different groups, etc.
Films are made by artists. They aren't about the money as much as movies are. They're about stories, characters, cinematographie, etc.
For example:
Movie: will use a cgi shot in the movie, not because it is needed, but because thy have a contractual obligation with a cgi studio
Film: will use a cgi shot if the story demands it. If the look of the shot is what the filmakers want in their film.
>>63443582
Then what is cinéma and kinography?
>>63443835
Excellent. Thank you.
>>63443550
You're a frog posting pleb, so if you like it, it's a movie, and if you don't, it's actually good and meaningful like film.
>>63444021
Fucking this. I don't know why people can't grasp the concept that different "motion pictures" are made with different methods and objectives in mind.
>>63443550
The stuff you like are movies.
The stuff reddit likes are flicks.
The stuff /tv/ likes are films.
TDKR is kino.
>>63443670
finally a good explanation
>>63444227
>Implying /tv/ and reddit don't actually like the same shit
>>63444337
name your favorite movie
>>63444363
zoolander
>>63443836
Don't we have "long métrage" aswell? I know it's pretty uncommon.
>>63444363
???
>>63443774
This is true autism. Behold!
>>63444399
>>63444363
>>63444337
stop trying to tarnish my anonymous reputation.
>>63444363
Apichatpong Weerasethakul: Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives
10/10 for a movie, 7/10 as a film
>>63443806
Those are all the same word, just different conjugations
>>63444363
Since you said movie and not favorite film, I will say Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift.
>>63444480
>Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift.
But that's a flick, my friend
Largometraje
Filme
Película
Peli (inferior digestive version)
That's how it goes in Spain
>>63444498
name your favourite flim-flack
>>63444363
FLICKS
1. Shining (Kubrick, 1980)
2. 一代宗師 / 一代宗师 (Kar-Wai, 2013)
3. L'inhumaine (L'herbier, 1924)
4. [달은 해가 꾼는 꿈] 예고편 (Park, 1992)
5. بادکنک سفيد (Panahi, 1995)
MOVIES
1. The Godfather, Part III (F. Coppola, 1990)
2. Á bout de souffle (Godard, 1960)
3. And a Little Kid Shall Lead Them (Griffith, 1909)
4. Kindsköpfe (Dugan, 2010)
5. Fear & Desire (Kubrick, 1953)
FILMS
1. Höstsonaten (Bergman, 1978)
2. Hets (Sjöberg, 1944)
3. The Birth of a Nation (Griffith, 1915)
4. 十二生肖 (Chan, 2012)
5. IIIIIIIIIIIIIII1891091718191611€€€€&-@ (Sandler, 2016)
CINÉMA
1. Mogambo (Ford, 1953)
2. Lost River (Gosling, 2014)
3. ¿Quién me quiere a mí? (Sáenz de Heredia/ Buñuel, 1936)
4. Eyes Wide Shut (Kubrick, 1999)
5. Der Student von Prag (Rye/ Wegener, 1913)
KINO
1. Berlin — Die Sinfonie der Großstadt (Ruttman, 1927)
2. Pauvre Pierrot (Reynaud, 1892)
3. Mauvais Garçons (1995, Bay)
4. Avatar (Cameron, 2009)
5. 劇場版ポケットモンスター ミュウツーの逆襲 (Yuyama, 1998)
ABSOLUTE KINOGRAPHY
1. Interstellar (Nolan, 2014)
2. L'ascension du chevalier noir (Nolan, 2012)
3. 01010101 01101110 00100000 01000011 01101000 01101001 01100101 01101110 00100000 01000001 01101110 01100100 01100001 01101100 01101111 01110101 (1928, Luis Buñuel)
>>63444409
True. Forgot that one.
>>63444498
I don't keep track of what plebs call their shit.
>>63444508
Probably The Lone Ranger. Real good flim-flack...not a very good film, though...and almost a decent Flickle-Flam.
>>63444554
>plebs
>he likes f&f and calls other people plebs
>>63444533
I appreciate the effort that went into this bait, so have a "you"
Film = Made completely for art.
Movie = Mid point. Some artistic and some entertainment elements, usually leaning more on entertaimment.
Flick = Made completely for entertainment.
>>63444533
There can only be one, Trips McDubstein.
You can't have more than one favorite in any given categorie.
>>63444601
why would you watch something which wasn't entertaining?
>>63444632
literally reddit
>>63444601
By entertainment, you mean money, right?
>>63443550
Film: Persona
Movie: Fight Club
Film: Perfect Blue
Movie: Dark Swan
Any other examples?
>>63444632
Because you respect art. It's rare that I can stomach watching anything that was made to entertain. Nothing makes me angrier that cinema that tries to pander to me.
>>63444660
so all films are not entertaining by default? i am sorry but i fail to see why somebody would watch something they are not interested in
What speed to you watch at? 0.8x for cinema and 0.7x for kino here.
>>63444632
Because. The human experience is much more than "what feels good right now."
You could watch to educate yourself, to learn about other point of views, perspectives, experiences. They don't have to be entertaining to be gratifying.
>>63444670
Entertainment leads to money.
>>63443550
If you are hipster and just a touch mimetic then films otherwise movies
>>63444678
>Dark Swan
Black Swan. And it's a flick.
>>63444632
There can be entertainment within fully artistic projects
See: Renoir, Truffaut and Chaplin
>>63443550
There is none. It's all just a circle-jerk, tbqh.
>>63444721
i've watched entertaining films which made me feel like shit/uncomfortable whilst watching it. if i were to watch something which was boring, i wouldn't watch it.
i spend most of my time watching documentaries, i watch them because they're entertaining. i would not watch a documentary if it was boring as fuck, and if you do, then lol
>>63444765
>i've watched entertaining films which made me feel like shit/uncomfortable whilst watching it
No, those were movies. If it was a film they would have removed the "entertainment sensibility" elements and committed fully to the antagonization and discomfort.
>>63444765
You have ADHD.
Bored? Fucking grow up.
>>63444765
Well, of course you watch entertaining documentaries. It's like this:
Investigative Report = Made completely for the purpose of informing the audience.
Docudrama = Mid point. Somewhat informative and somewhat entertaining, usually leaning more on entertaimment.
Documentary = Made completely for entertainment.
>>63444586
I didn't say I liked it.
Op said "Name your favorite movie" so I picked the only thing I have seen that remotely qualifies. I was bamboozled because someone told me it had subtitles so I might like it.
shows:
breaking bad
the walking dead
series:
fargo
the knick
telévision:
true detective
hannibal
>>63444883
>Op said "Name your favorite movie"
I never said that
>>63444632
Because the world is a sad broken place and entertainment is just a mask to hide the pain. Only plebs can't handle reality and need the mask.
>>63444905
0/10
>>63444935
See
>>63444363
If its the only movie yo choose from, then by process of elimination, it must be my favorite, even if I did not enjoy it.
>>63444936
you absolute faggot
>>63443550
>How can I know the difference?
There's no difference.
It's just a meme.
>>63443550
>tfw watching a show
>turns out it's a series
>>63445063
Stop tricking plebs. They'll never learn if we don't explain it to them, and they'll just keep shitting up the board with pure-memeposting.
>>63445063
Mimes aren't the same thing as movies/films/cinématographes/etc.
They're more akin to theatre/musical theatre/pieces de theatre/theatre d'été/etc.
>>63444533
Die hipster
>>63445108
>angry when somebody has a more sophisticated taste
Film vs Movie vs Cinema is real, but kino, fllick, etc were added by tasteless drones that were made insecure by this whole thing.
“A movie is made for an audience and a film is made for both the audience and the filmmakers. I think that The Game is a movie and I think Fight Club‘s a film. I think that Fight Club is more than the sum of its parts, whereas Panic Room is the sum of its parts. I didn’t look at Panic Room and think: Wow, this is gonna set the world on fire. These are footnote movies, guilty pleasure movies. Thrillers. Woman-trapped-in-a-house movies. They’re not particularly important.” - David Fincher
"My film is not a movie. My film is not about Vietnam. It is Vietnam. It's what it was really like. It was crazy. We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane." — Francis Ford Coppola
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film#Terminology_used
>By contrast, in the US "movie" is the predominant form. Although the words "film" and "movie" are sometimes used interchangeably, "film" is more often used when considering artistic, theoretical, or technical aspects, as studies in a university class and "movies" more often refers to entertainment or commercial aspects, as where to go for fun on a date. For example, a book titled "How to Read a Film" would be about the aesthetics or theory of film, while "Lets Go to the Movies" would be about the history of entertaining movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsp05iSk7s [Open]
movies are about economics.
cinema is about esthetics.
film is about politics.
-"How To Read A Film" by James Monaco
Also the separation is recognized in these texts
Bresson's Notes on the Cinematographer
Tarkovsky's Sculpting in Time
Delleuze's Cinema I&II
There's nothing inherently wrong with flicks or movies, just as there is nothing inherently wrong with $1 burgers and chocolate.
They're just not very nutritious or healthy.
>>63445063
>It's just a meme.
Who are you quoting here?
>Made to express
Film
>Made to appeal
Movie
It's as simple as that
If it's doing both at the same time it's a filmie
>>63445175
good post
