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>tfw i converted to Catholicism after seeing this movie
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>tfw i converted to Catholicism after seeing this movie
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>>63389671
Why
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>>63389671
what were you before?
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>>63389691
What do you think he was
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>>63389712
Muzzie?
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>>63389691
A big guy
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>>63389671
>tfw I converted to science after seeing this movie

Oh wait, I didn't need a movie to convince me science is right because I'm not a fucking moron.
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Jesuit, Benedictine or Dominican?
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>>63389809
Science isnt a religion faggot im Christian and im a scientist
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>>63389671
Are you memeing or did the one-dimensional, cliché side-characters really connect with your autism that much?
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>tfw Irish
>tfw it's a very apt description of modern Ireland and Ireland's opinion of the Catholic Church.
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>>63389911
Christians scientists are one of the looniest batches of christians.
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>tfw i converted to baneism after watching this movie
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ok OP, now go watch this and become an orthodox.
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why are there same 3 actors in every irish movie
surprised i didn't see Saoirse Ronan in it
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>2016 - 25 days
>people still believe in 'gods'
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>>63389967
>the flight plan is our holy book
>bane is literally the devil forcing himself into Genesis
>CIA is the fall of man
>Dr Pavel is Judas
>masketta represents all manlets
>taking a piss guy is there, always there, in every reiteration
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>>63389671
After seeing this movie I realized I might be killed by a car if I didn't convert to Christianity. Pretty convincing argument against atheism.
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>>63390044
God. Singular. All else is wrong.
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>>63390076
Preach it, sister!
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>>63389911
I commend your ability of compartmentalizing contradictory thoughts.

have you considered a career in politics?
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>>63390050
You bring tears into my eyes anon
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>>63389776
For you, maybe
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>>63389994
Tbh this movie isn't better than Calvary.
They're probably equally good.
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>>63389964
Christian Scientists are
Christian scientists are generally fine
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>>63390096
>religion and science are contradictory
spot the r/atheism
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>>63390076
Are you a Oneness Pentecostal?
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>>63390127
Just like Catholicism & Orthodoxy!
Then there's the protestants: >>63390068
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>>63390076
Prove it

What makes the christian god more real than the muslim or jewish god
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>>63390076

ok but which sect
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>>63389671

I honestly can't remember a single thing about that movie and I only saw it a few months ago.
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>>63390166
specific religious claims contradict scientific findings. of course you can backpedal far enough until your claims are either non-falsifiable or fall into the ever-shrinking gaps of knowledge.
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>>63390068
protestant is the biggest meme religion
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>>63390203
haha
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>>63390203
nice b8
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>>63390203
That post didn't say anything about which religion's god is real, just that there is one (singular)

Also the three Abrahamic religions have more or less the same idea of God, so your post is doubly irrelevant
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>>63390272
this
its literally islam or atheism tier
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>>63390068

>Protestants
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no u didn't, but atleast you're actually discussing something instead of spamming the same memes like these redditors.
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>>63389671
>grow up in a non-religious country
>nobody ever really talks about religion
>the idea that a higher power exists is just so far removed from my mind that it's probably impossible for me to become religious if I wished it

Like. Not to be that guy. But I have the same feelings about something like Santa Clause that I do god(s). That connection just isn't there.
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>>63390203
they're all the same god
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>>63390356
Which country?
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>>63390076
And Muhammad is the messenger of God
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>>63390356
its not entirely your fault, but you ll burn in hell.
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>>63389671
Kill yourself, you filthy catholic bitch, i want to incenerate and gas your jesus loving filth kind!
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>>63390409

wew
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>>63390377
Sweden.

Funnily enough thinking about it we used to go to church in school during the holidays. But we mostly just listened and sang a bunch of Christmas Carols.

>>63390409
Man. God is a douchebag.
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>>63390419
Evangelical detected
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>>63390377
Sweeden most likely
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>>63390428
>>63390356
>Is atheist shithole
>Is also SJW blacked doomed kekland
OH GOD THE POTTERY
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>>63390428
>>63390445
Sure enough, it was sweeden.
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>>63390076
Your god is a sexhating authoritarian bitch, who i want to rape senselessly and crucify again and again, till the end of time, fuck your filthy christian bitch religion.
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>>63390464
Your god hs a selfish bitch, who needs to be tortrued relentlessly, and beaten until he becomes a submissive bitch!
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>>63390491
That's ok, it's not like you can, so all that hate will just stay with you.
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>>63390438
I hate all christian filth, but i have a special hatred for child molseting christian vermin!
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>>63390536
>tortrued relentlessly, and beaten until he becomes a submissive bitch!
that needs to happen to me
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>this thread
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>>63390356

>comparing God to Santa Claus

Someone's been browsing atheistblog.com
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>>63390573
I can and will, even if i have to align with satan and his dark army, to defeat and dominate your poultry god in his own heaven.
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>>63390428
you can save yourself by knowing god. once you do, your eyes will open, your heart will fill with joy.
its hard, you ll need someone to guide you. god forgives those who seek him out in good will.
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>>63390600
>tfw Anzu will probably marry some Mehmet
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>>63390612
>poultry god
topcock
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>>63389671
IKTF
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>>63390600
Who is that semen demon?
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>>63390491
>>63390536
>>63390575

>The same anon goes all out hating every religion on anonymous vietnam image board in every thread
>mfw

I'm a atheist and a jew too, but i don't go out my way shitting on someone else religion. It's retarded 2bh.
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>>63389994
>Pavel
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>>63390612
Whatever you say my nostril endowed friend.
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>>63390606
Explain where the presents come from then, faggot.
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>>63390629
>Not capitalizing "God"
Blasphemy!

>>63390653
He is probably just memeing
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>>63390682
your mom and dad...
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>>63390294
Atheists are certified clueless buffons. They cannot even comprehend the scientifical logic that presupposes there must exist an axiom to everything in the universe, and they will not think twice before hopping into a journey of devotion of satan if this mean hurting the people that respect god. Trying to reason with them is pointless.
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>>63390682
Parents keeping up a tradition inspired by a turk named Nikolaos of Myra
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Why doesn't AsianMoot send all the fedora tippers back to reddit?
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>>63390723
>scientifical logic
lol
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>>63390677
Shove your jew memes up your redneck bitch asshole, /pol/tard degenerate, just because i hate god doesnt make me a fucking jew, actually far from it infact.
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>>63390464
I'm actually a member of the Swedish Christian Church.

I think like 65% of of the country are since everyone is to lazy to leave.

>>63390470
Are you purposefully spelling it wrong?

>>63390606
I really haven't, and I don't mean it like anything "lol god is a magical sky wizard" crap. It's just a fairly easy way to sum up my feelings towards it. Like how hard it would be to actually be able to believe in a higher power.

>>63390629
Why is god seen as a kind merciless being anyways? To me the Greek and Roman gods make more sense. They are essentially super powerful humans. And with that power they have become assholes. Like, people worship them not because they are kind, but because they will fuck your shit up if you don't.

But god brings floods, wants non-believers to burn in hell, and all that stuff. He just seems a bit more like a narcissistic cross teenager than a benevolent kind heated god.
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>>63390759
why don't you go back to reddit

>>>/r/Christianity
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>>63390759
you have to type your requests right to left for him to understand them
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>>63390759
Because he's most likely an atheist?
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>>63390025
You better not be talking shit about my husbandu Gleeson
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>>63390723
Christians are brainless retards, that even if there so called sky god exists (he doesnt), there traitors to mortals in all dimensions by siding with his sex hating authoritarian filth ways, and if they had any dignity theyd rise from their submissive bitch stature and dominate and subjegate his holy-filth ass.
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>>63390737
not a turk, but lived in what is today turkey.
he was a christian orthodox, declared a saint by the church.
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>>63390780
Sorry, Swiden. I always mix them up.
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>>63390801
Oh shit, kek
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>>63390773
Why do you hate God, son?
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>>63390787

I was here first.

And /pol/ = r/Christianity x 9000
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>>63390839
My bad, will be clearer next time.
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>>63390857
Because he is a selfish, egotistical, sex hating, dictitorial cunt, and should be dethroned and beaten and tortured for his crimes against humanity.
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>>63390737
Didn't the gift giving stem from the Romans?
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>>63390812

But I doubt he's a fedora wearer.
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>>63390759
Why dont you off yourself, we dont want your filth here anyways, cross-sucking pussy bitch!
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>>63389671
>tfw watching The Hunt then watching this

Why always the dog ;.;
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Those who are prideful and refuse to bow down, shall be laid low and made into dust.

HALLOWED ARE THE ORI!
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>>63390904
>God is a person
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>63390044
The comeback of paganism baffles me also.
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>>63390812
Japanese are rarely religious but find the western fedoraism shows extremely bad taste.
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>>63390909
There was a lot ingredients that shaped Christmas, Romans set the customary date maybe there was gift giving for them too, but the actual customs relating to Santa go through northern or eastern europe (I think) and point back to St Nicholas.
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>>63390780
god created the world out of love, and thus loves his creations. after the sin of adam and eve, they were cast out of paradise, thus the suffering of human kind and the world began.
god sent his son to show us how to try and gain back this paradise. through love for our fellow human. we will sin, but if we seek forgiveness with honesty and humbleness we will not be forsaken. its a lifelong struggle
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Is there some religion like Christianity without the Church? Abrahamic or not.

To me it just seems like anything else makes no sense and is incredibly illogical, it's just silly to think a few texts written by some random people, constantly changed and adapted, led by a power hungry organization, does in some way speak for what a higher power wants.

The only way I think a omnipotent creator would actually want is to let humans be humans and not interfere, at least not on that personal "do this or I will be sad" level.

God might be real, but the Bible is just a text written by some old men for their gain and I don't see the point in following that.
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>>63391058
So he purposefully makes us flawed so we will show him more affection?

>mfw god is basically a clingy abusive girlfriend
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>>63391142
No, he gave us free will so that we could will ourselves towards love.
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Threads like this are the reason why even in England an atheist couldn't even win the election to Prime Minister.
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>>63391064
>Is there some religion like Christianity without the Church?
>The only way I think a omnipotent creator would actually want is to let humans be humans and not interfere
Sounds like a Deist to me
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>>63390720
Fuck you. The songs and my parents say otherwise.
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>>63391058
God is a selfish bastard, and he has forsakeen us.
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I was born a snake handler, and I'll die a snake handler.
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>>63391142
he gave adam and eve free will, because there can be no love without it, there can be no love from necessity.

this free will can be a fatal flaw and our greatest attribute, what differentiates us from animals in an absolute way.

god does not need our affection, but in order to save ourselves we have to get to know him. to do that we have to enter the church.

god values freedom above all because that is the basis of true love.
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>>63391174
And then burn people in eternal damnation who were unfortunate to not to find a way towards that love?

By loving all his creations do you mean just loving a few?

>I'll just make these humans have a bunch of flaws I don't like so only some of them will actually feel my love, the rest will scream in agony forever
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx2CGOoRSTw
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Daily reminder no one here is actually christian and just acts like it to get /pol/ points
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>>63391348
good review and analysis to be quite frank
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this film is phenomenal

it captures faith, hope, love, and forgiveness the way it can be in the real world
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>>63391270
god will never forsaken you.

as in the parable of the prodigal son, when we come to our senses, realize our sins and humbly repent, he will forgive us.
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>>63391174
>>63391319
Isn't God omniscient? Doesn't that mean that he knew, before he created us, who would choose him and who wouldn't? ...Meaning he specifically created one sorry lot to spend eternity in Hell?
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>>63391359
Is it that hard to believe someone would actually be a believer? It's not like /pol/ has even settled on whether Christianity is ok or just a 'jew in a stick' cult.
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>>63391389
Sins which only that sex hating bitch finds bad, that any objectable person finds to not be wrong mostly, i soit in your poultry filth god!
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>>63390419
>satan detected
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>>63391319
If he likes freedom so much why does he punish those who strive towards it?

>>63391396
And that.

It's like he bounces back and forth between being omniscient and having almost no control.
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>>63391322
you must seek god.
try going to an orthodox church, or search the internet for videos of monks from athos, agion oros.

try to keep an open mind, but know that it is a struggle, it takes patience.
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>>63391495
And many people have. Yet god seems only to grant them pain and suffering.

Seeking is not good enough in his book. Sadly he does not seem to reward trying. Only success.
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>>63391726
Persecuted.
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>>63391396
A good way to understand it, is if I went back in time with a history book to George Washington crossing the Delaware and my history book says he does it in one hour, it doesn't remove from him the free choice of crossing the river even though his choice is known in advance.
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>>63391726
>b&
bretty good :DDD
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>>63391726
honestly, it makes me feel kind bad for the person who created it and the people who share it. they're blind to who jesus christ is, and that's a significant loss
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>>63391726
>tfw you will will never see a pair of time traveling medieval knights go back in time to try and shove a pole up Jesus's cornhole while a cross dressing midget version of John Rhys-Davies tries to hump a T-shaped wooden beam
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>>63391595

there is no success. there cant be, we are humans and we sin. perhaps the greatest sins of all are selfishness and pride. and those two make us hate our fellow men. its a lifelong struggle of recognizing our sins , confessing and repenting. all we have to do is try to be honest and humble. after all jesus loved the sinners, it was for them that he sacrificed himself.
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>>63391726
I feel like you forgot this is a blue board
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>>63391765
So god is just an asshole essentially and doesn't care about all the people who have to suffer?
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>>63391810
God is a sex hating bastard, who deserves to be. Raped, tortured, and ridicculed, fuck that charlatan bastard jesus christ.
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>>63391820
And still he punishes those who tries.

Granted seeing as he's letting a bunch of shameless sinners with agendas of their own do his admin on earth he doesn't seem like the brightest tool in the shed.
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>>63391765
That analogy only works if, along with time travel, you also willingly created George Washington and pushed him across the Delaware into the lake of fire.
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>>63391870
No, but without absolute free will you cannot will yourself to love.
Anyways, I think your conception of what God is, is flawed. You think of it in the conception of a man sitting there thinking about how best to make your life better. God is the eternal from which love, beauty, and goodness flow. It is up to you to embrace this.
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>>63391937
But that's not what's happening.
I have ultimate free will. Your conception of time is just flawed.
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>>63390940
i recommend you watch John Wick next
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>>63391319
Do have any sound reasoning for holding these beliefs? Any evidence at all that would discredit the thousand other non Abrahamic religions?

That's my problem. I'm not living in a Christian country nor was I born into one. Why should I seek out one interpretation of the universe over another when there is no evidential or logical or emotional basis to do so? I respect the teachings of Christ but, come on..
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>>63391923
dont do as the clergy does, but do as the clergy says.
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>>63391939
He's also the biggest force of horror, anger, destruction, malice and evil.

>>63392043
Shouldn't my goal be to attain freedom? Not be an unquestioning puppet of people who most likely haven't ever felt the love of god.
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>>63391995
i consider myself lucky being born in the country i was born, living in the culture i do.

i understand what you say, maybe we have similar questions but our different cultures offer different answers.

if you are content with what you have, you have no reason to seek further
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>>63391956
No, your analogy is flawed.

It's all bullshit in my opinion, but The Bible clears it all up nicely with a big "fuck you":

Romans 9: 14-20
>What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
>You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?”
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>>63392185
your goal is to save your soul, to make it whole and heal it.

freedom meant as the ability to do anything your selfish self wants, even by hurting others, is really hurting yourself.

jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself, that is the most important commandment, what he asks of you.
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What if I told you that atheism was a bait-trap for edgy, self-hating youths, to lure you into becoming interested in science, with the ultimate goal of inspiring young people to give away their money to research groups, who sit around and leech off the academic system all day?

What if I told you that all those pretty CGI colorful nebulas in fact don't exist, that space is actually black and white to the human eye, and really scientists are filtering gases into photoshop to make Space (which is actually empty and boring as fuck) look like some miraculous adventure waiting to happen?

Because that's what's happening.

You have STEM people, trying hard to stay funded, trying hard to keep people interested in Mars and space, trying to keep their own interests and research flowing, they will say and do anything to keep young people interested.

Mars is a dead planet 1/3 the size of Earth.
Because we've spend millions of years adapting to this planet, recolonization of another planet for our species survival is an impossibility.
Space is not the future of mankind.
Stars and nebulas and astronomy have no useful scientific purpose.
NASA is a complete waste of money, and lives.

Your nerdy sci-fi dreams are not happening no matter how many Carl Sagans or Neil Tyson Degrasses try and convince you otherwise, with their enlightened 'muh space' speeches.

They just want your money.
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>>63391765
But god knows how every single thing everything turns out. He's especially stared into an infinite amount of different worlds and deemed this one, this path, to be the correct one.

In an infinite amount of worlds there is an infinite amount of possibilities that there are an infinite amount of ways where we humans could attain free will, while still being able to feel gods love, without all his self inflicted pain.
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>tfw raised Catholic and confirmed catholic (still am)
>Dad starts getting into Kabbalah shit and just asked me to light a menorah with him/read Kabbalah shit with him just now
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>>63392319
And I'm okay with that.
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>>63392327
That doesn't stop you from being the one that ultimately makes the meaning for yourself.
The pain that exists in the world exists, its up to you to decide how you handle it.
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>>63392319
Sounds fine to me bucko

Everything non-essential is "a waste of money", so fuck entertainment and culture, too
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Daily reminder that /tv/ is a Christian board, and that anyone on 4chan who could deny GOD can kindly leave to any number of other imageboards/forums on the internet.
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>he lets TV influence his life
4chan is for adults
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>>63392319
>What if I told you that all those pretty CGI colorful nebulas in fact don't exist, that space is actually black and white to the human eye, and really scientists are filtering gases into photoshop to make Space (which is actually empty and boring as fuck) look like some miraculous adventure waiting to happen?
how do you know?
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>>63391765
What's the difference between:

1) God creating an eternal pit of fire and then building a toy soldier whose purpose is to march into the fire

and

2) God creating an eternal pit of fire and then building a toy soldier who he knows will choose to march into the fire of its own free will?

Either way, if God built the thing and knows all things, isn't he ultimately responsible its date with Hellfire?
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>>63392723
Hell isn't even what you think it is.
Hell is infinite oblivion, to be cut off from the presence of God, and to be absent from love.
And no, the toy soldier can turn away at any point, yet still chooses it.
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>>63392344

Anon why don't you take him up on his offer. It will be a good chance to bond and discuss how to spend your college fund.
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>>63392485
My brother in Christ.
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>>63392319
yeah because astronomy and space exploration is the only function of STEM research...fuck medicine and vaccines and aeroplanes.

name something that functions without money? how exactly would research be performed without the money to finance it?
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>>63392754
>And no, the toy soldier can turn away at any point, yet still chooses it.

Not according to the Bible. >>63392269
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>>63392931
Bible is a series of analogies and parables.
Not literal truth.
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>>63392628
not that guy but that's pretty documented

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/behind_the_pictures/meaning_of_color/
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>>63392946
Ah. Okay, senpai. Been interesting talking to you.
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