New Magic Wand Edition
Previously >>63374887
Threadly reminder.
looks like something the Blue Ranger would use honestly
>>63377571
clara is shit AND ugly
>Reminder, someone please call out Adam on Twitter cause he stole the pic posted here and watermarked as his own.
I mean come on!! Its 2015!!
>>63377200
Fuck, Capaldi and Coleman were singing and literally having a good time and then Maisie comes in and they both stop.
Two averages joes made a goddess. It really is a lottery.
>>63377662
I know it's painful to watch.
Jenna kind of humors her but Capaldi just stands there looking annoyed.
During this lull between seasons, I want to know, /tv/ - What are your favourite episodes of Doctor Who (2005 onwards)? Favourite specials?
Mine -
Top 10 Episodes
1. S3E09 - The Family of Blood
2. S2E04 - The Girl in the Fireplace
3. S5E10 - Vincent and the Doctor
4. S1E06 - Dalek
5. S3E11 - Utopia
6. S7E14 - The Name of the Doctor
7. S6E00 - A Christmas Carol
8. S6E04 - The Doctor's Wife
9. S9E11 - Heaven Sent
10. S3E01 - Smith and Jones
Top 3 Specials:
1. The End of Time: Part Two
2. The Waters of Mars
3. The Day of the Doctor
>>63377638
HOL UP
*belches excess regeneration energy*
I SAY HOL UP
*dresses up as Viking*
YO SAYIN I
*strangles Peri*
YO SAYIN I
*gets hand cut off and subsequently grown back*
YOU BE SAYIN I
*sasses for Gallifrey*
YOU BE SAYIN I AIN'T DAT BALD OLD CRACKA 'N SHEEEEIIITT ANY MOAR?
>>63377743
>No Blink
Opinion discarded
>>63377704
I've never looked at the comments on an instagram and not been slightly skeeved out
they're just always so sycophantic and cloying
>nothing is sad until it's over, then everything is
>stories are where memories go when they're forgotten
BRAVO MOFFAT GREAT LINES
>>63377756
Blink is probably the most overrated of the new series. Did you enjoy it because of the plot holes or because of the lack of the Doctor?
>>63377743
Nice list, but A Christmas Carol is technically a special.
Also:
>declaring your love for The End of Time on /who/
You're a much braver man than I am.
Thank fuck the cafe scene in Death in Heaven exists. I'm gonna pretend in my head canon Clara left there and S9 never happened.
I loved her as companion, but Moffat went full retarded in Hell Bent.
>>63377704
Oh, so they are Adam Orford's in-laws.
What happened in the diner at the end of the episode? My dvr stopped recording around the 1:20 mark.
>>63377743
>>63377788
Fact: The End of Time was great
>>63377788
A Christmas Carol has been assigned an episodic number, though, so I felt it belonged in the upper list. I can see why others would disagree, though.
>declaring your love for The End of Time on /who/
>You're a much braver man than I am.
Fuck it. Loved it. That scene where he's getting angry at Wilfred? 10/10.
>>63377200
>masie williams got to stand in a classic Hartnell-era TARDIS
Disgusting.
>>63377786
One thing is being overrated, another is to put Smith and Jones above it.
Legitimately this episode was the worst of the series.
WORSE THAN SLEEP NO MORE which I didnt think was even POSSIBLE.
Clara lives? Oh FUCK OFF!
0/10, there are no worse stories than this.
Which is a shame considering Heaven Sent was FANTASTIC.
They ruined Rassilon as well.
>>63377638
HE WAS SCARED
>>63377608
Dalton Rassilon was fucking top notch in retrospect. He wouldn't have tolerated that shit.
>>63377873
Who the fuck cares if Clara's alive? The point is she's gone from the show.
Meanwhile in another universe...
William Hartnell (1963-1966)
Patrick Troughton (1966-1969)
Jon Pertwee (1970-1974)
Tom Baker (1974-1981)
Peter Davison (1982-1984)
Colin Baker (1984-1986)
Sylvester McCoy (1987-1991)
Hugh Grant (1991-1994)
Paul McGann (1995-1999)
John Hurt (2000-2004)
Christopher Eccleston (2005)
David Tennant (2005-2010)
Matt Smith (2010-2013)
Peter Capaldi (2013-2018)
>>63377890
She'll be back for Capaldi's regeneration story. Fucking guarantee it.
>>63377836
>A Christmas Carol has been assigned an episodic number, though,
So have Tennant's specials.
>>63377823
>Clara became a Tome Lord and regenerated into an Australian Aboriginal gentleman, and the Doctor rode off on a Harrier Jump Jet while playing his guitar.
>>63377873
Sleep No More was pretty good once you get past the insane premise
Only good thing this series (besides Capaldi of course) was Achildr. An interesting concept.
The rest was just Moffat standard bullshit. Hope the low ratings will get him fired.
>>63377823
Clara went back to her job as an English teacher, cherishing her memories with the Doctor. Ashildr saw the opportunity and stole the Gallifreyean TARDIS. The Doctor remains oblivious to the identity of the waitress.
>>63377898
We should invent companions for Grant, McGann and Hurt.
>>63377823
Clara says that maybe things you've forgotten become songs.
It's revealed that the diner is actually the new TARDIS, though the Doctor doesn't see it, and it disappears with Clara and Me. Me says that the new TARDIS is stuck looking like the diner on the outside, and Clara says they need to head back to the Time Lords "eventually" so that she can die.
The Doctor meanwhile sees that they left his TARDIS there. The front is covered in painted flowers and a picture of Clara's face, but he ignores it and goes inside where he finds the blackboard that says "run you clever boy and be a Doctor." So he puts on his velvet coat again, gets a new screwdriver, and sets off, burning off the flowers and Clara's face art as the TARDIS leaves.
The Diner TARDIS and the Doctor's TARDIS pass each other. The end.
>>63377898
After watching The Curse of Fatal Death, I am convinced that Rowan Atkinson could play the Doctor, and play him fucking well.
>>63377940
>>63377949
What the fuck.
Is this an invasion?
>>63377913
How? He can't remember her.
>>63377988
McGann and Hurt had companions.
Read books and listen to BF.
>>63377784
Yeah, things don't much more Moffat than that crap
Daily reminder that with the new lore changes to regeneration, the Doctor could now meet Susan in her current form as a 55 year old Chinese man.
>>63377988
>invent companions
>for McGann
>>63377743
1. Bad Wolf
2. Dalek
3. Blink
4. The End Of The World
5. Asylum Of The Daleks
6. A Good Man Goes To War/Let's Kill Hitler
7. The Angels Take Manhattan
8. Heaven Sent
9. In The Forest Of The Night
10.Love And Monsters
>>63378024
>>63378034
>implying
>>63377925
Can you blame her?
>>63378014
>Oh gosh! People disagreeing with me! Inconceivable, this must be a trick of some sort!
>>63378024
McGann sure did.
Hurt, however, had only one, who stayed for just a single story (Engines of War).
>>63378053
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo
It's canon deal with it.
>>63378021
Donna was in The End of Time wasn't she.
That general guy was a bro. Fuck Moffat for turning him in a black independent woman who need no man.
Rassilon became a little bitch.
>>63378078
He could remember Donna. Are you being deliberately retarded?
So let me get this straight
>hybrid doesn't matter, again Moffat hypes something that they brush off with a 'it does not matter tho'
>Asilda and Clara going on gay ass adventures
>Gallifrey is fine, what is the doctor going to do now?
>Rassalion told to fuck, will likely show up next season
Did the Doctor really die and get replaced by a clone?
>>63378083
Moffat wrote both characters, literally what the fuck are you talking about.
>>63378076
>implying that minisode is canon
>>63378090
How does that make it any different you retard?
At what exact mark was the 9th Doctor's theme?
>>63378070
Oh fuck, /r/gallifrey is here.
>>63378108
Yes. Around 2-4 Billion times.
>/who/ jokes about Clara Who
>jokes about regeneration into a black woman
>it happens
Meme magic is real. I blame you fuckers for this.
Just bought the season pass on iTunes. It comes with full episodes (about 10 mins duration each like the Series 8 ones). Pretty shitty of them to make them exclusive content.
I've decided im probably not even going to watch Series 10 as it goes out live after this shitfest of a series. I'll wait for it all to air and then marathon it on a rainy day.
Gotta say though, the xmas special looks fun.
>>63377949
I can respect someone thinking the concept of Ashildr to be good, but the execution was downright terrible.
WORST FUCKING SERIES EVER WHEN IS MOFFAT LEAVING?
>>63378073
A poodle?
>>63378130
>the main character doesn't remember somebody
>somebody doesn't remember the main character
>these are the same thing
Fuck off.
>>63377743
>1. S3E09 - The Family of Blood
My fave too, senpai.
>>63378137
>People with differing opinions! This is a sure sign of invasion by reddit, a place where everyone's opinion is the same!
lol get madder fgt
>>63378157
Either that or the what's been suspected is true, moffat is a closet /who/re.
This kinda shit borderlines on spooky, like when captchas start talking to you or seem to match the topics of the thread.
>>63378210
Yeah, well, that isn't actually a companion.
But wait until you see the full cover of that book.
>>63378196
Last season was worse.
>>63377743
no particular order
>specials
planet of the dead
the runaway bride
the next doctor
>episodes
vincent and the doctor
dalek
gridlock
the lodger
42
human nature/family of blood
empty child/doctor dancers
blink
midnight
amy's choice
also christmas carol was a christmas special ;x
>>63377743
>No A Town Called Mercy
FACE ME
It's weird, this season was pretty much a letdown, but Capaldi was still based. How can he be so right and everything else so wrong?
Ah, well. Still better than RTD.
>tfw they won't be able to top Clara's cuteness for the next companion
>>63378234
I'm not mad, just disappointed anon.
>>63378263
>doctor dancers
>dancers
Reading the "not we" reaction threads on GB gives me an aneurism. Is all of England literally retarded?
>>63378083
Silly boys aren't they stupid?
>>63378305
>tfw bald Karen was one of the General's past incarnations
>>63378180
Yes. Execution is always terrible with Moffat.
Hype stuff like "the doctors real name" or "hybrid" and then just drops it.
No one can ever die or even make a real sacrifice. Like Clara is going to die one day, just like anyone else, but she can chose when to visit that time. Same with every other companion, just some shit about they or the doctor forget that they exists.
Even Gallifrey was resurrected by timey-wimey-magic. No darkness or sadness ever. No real losses, everything is utterly pointless in the end.
10 makes a big deal out of regeneration as literal death of a person.
12 casually shoots someone and makes them regenerate.
Go fuck yourself, Moffat.
>The General regenerates into a woman, fair enough
>The General regenerates into a woman and spouts some bullshit about men and ego, whatever
>The General regenerates and suddenly has makeup on
HOL UP
>>63377290
>I think David was a bit hacked off, actually. Because – and this actually happened – Russell T Davies and David bumped into Alex in the Hollywood Bowl and David said, 'Did I hear that you're back in Doctor Who?' and she said, 'Yes I am.' And then David asked 'What's happening?' And she just went, 'Spoilers!' She actually said it. In real life!"
kek
>>63378423
10 was a drama queen, and was contradicting what he said to Rose after he regenerated from 9.
What is with DW cast turning into American comic book shows
what will matt smith play
>>63378481
no wonder River said he looked young in Silence in the Library, 10 was the Time Lord equivalent of a bawling toddler
>I DON'T WANT TO GO WAAH
think about it, a woman most people theorize to be his mum was even in The End of Time watching him have a dimensional tantrum like "for fuck's sake"
>>63377632
that fucker
>>63378157
>meme magic
I could totally believe this. The power of irony can break the fabric of reality.
Actually willing something is quite weak. But being ironic about it? That's just challenging the universe to kick you in the balls.
>>63378329
keked
Couldn't they have gotten a more impressive actor for Rassilon?
>>63378488
case American Comic Book Shows are being made by nerds and nerds watch DW.
>>63378488
He played Skynet in Terminator Genisys
>>63378481
>contradicting what he said to Rose after he regenerated from 9.
Have a fantastic life? I was fantastic?
>>63378488
Matt Smith should play Bizzaro
>>63378557
No, because for some reason Moffat decided to turn Rassilon into a senile fool.
I'm not exactly sure why, but he was definitely meant to be that unimpressive.
currently watching The Runaway Bride. What does /Who/ think of it?
>>63378528
no it's because
a) he was enjoying himself more than the depressive 9
b) he didn't last long age wise, so he felt he could achieve a lot more
>>63378557
They did, once.
>>63378591
Maybe he'd just listened to Zagreus, and liked the idea of Rassilon as a senile paranoid despot.
>>63378597
Good fun.
Why did the Doctor ask President Bored to leave the planet?
When did Gallifrey become the Doctor's planet?
Did I miss something?
Didn't Moffat of someone said that in 9th series we were going to get a callback to the Eyebrows scene from Day of the Doctor? Did I miss something?
>Could of had a kickass Doctor taking down the Timelords for revenge story.
>Instead we get an hour of Clara muh Clara.
Why live?
>>63377608
I was thinking all of this and more as I was watching the episode. Fuck Moffat, this series and his whole arc with Gallifrey has been nothing but a clusterfuck.
Not really a fan of that sonic screwdriver, either. It looks more ridiculously toylike than any one previously and it just doesn't visually fit with the Doctor or his TARDIS like previous screwdrivers did.
>>63378631
>>63378528
A reminder that had Ecclecakes stayed on, that whiner writing that was applied to 10 was probably what 9 was going to be.
Something tells me RTD probably didn't think of inventing an entirely new personality for the new dude when the old one only lasted a season, so he probably thought "well, I might as well use what I was GONNA do for this one instead."
>>63378627
>When did Gallifrey become the Doctor's planet?
The War Games, 1969.
>>63378577
No, the Tenth Doctor said this right after he regenerated
DOCTOR: I was dying. To save my own life I changed my body. Every single cell, but... it's still me.
DOCTOR (teasingly): You smiled...
ROSE: No I didn't.
DOCTOR: Oh, come on, all I did was change
>>63378627
He was made Lord President twice, once as Four and once as Five.
Which reminds me, where the fuck is Romana?
who was the director in the RTD series? I didn't like it all for the antagonist
it had retarded close ups and was goofy desu
>>63378665
>depressive doctor fresh from the time war learns to love life again with the aid of his various companions
>when it finally comes to regenerating, he doesn't want to for fear that he'll change too much
It wouldn't have been better than 9's actual regeneration but I think this would have worked better than with 10
Dr. Mario vs the 12th Doctor
Who wins?
Keep in mind that Mario can also time travel.
>>63378423
Yeah it's not like incarnations of the doctor can be different to stand out from one another.
>>63378725
Okay, can you explain the backstory of Rassilon?
Is he a baddie?
Why is he in control of Gallifrey?
And if the Doctor is Lord President, what the fuck is Rassilon doing in his place?
>>63378736
It would also have worked better than with 10 because 9 was a 'soldier' too, and until Day of the Doctor was assumed to be the incarnation that participated in the Time War. I think that would have worked great with Wilf
>>63378726
>who was the director in the RTD series?
A whole lot of different people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials#Ninth_Doctor
>>63378631
>the secret of the hybrid is so important the Doctor keeps it for 2 billion years
>as far as he thinks, the hybrid is Ashildr
Why did he care so much? I know we sort of not really deduced that it was him and Clara, but he didn't seem to think that until Ashildr herself mentioned it to him.
And frankly who gives a fuck if she IS the hybrid and the Time Lords take her out, she was a cunt who's probably murdered millions.
>>63378488
Biritsh folk rule the american comic book scene.
>>63378758
doctor who goes back in time to before mario was a baby and shoots his dad in the chest, forcing him to regenerate into a man-hating nigress.
>>63378758
>Keep in mind that Mario can also time travel.
Pretty sure the only time travel in a Mario game was Mario is Missing, and that was Luigi time traveling.
I haven't watched since the midway of the last season, I keep forgetting the numbers.
It was the one what had the "Mistress" replacement of the Master.
Did I miss anything?
>>63378726
Graeme Harper did a load.
>>63378827
>implying luigi wouldn't share his time machine with his brother
Direction and the look of the RTD era is pretty poor desu
>>63378826
But now that Clara's gone, who will babysit Artie?
>>63378591
>>63378608
Actually, I'm glad they didn't get Dalton for this. I wouldn't have liked Dalton Rassilon as a bumbling fool. It wouldn't have fit that incarnation.
>>63378899
You know, in retrospect you're right. It would have been a pretty poor send-off.
It'd be nice to say that we might get Dalton Rassilon back (cause who knows, we could run into a previous incarnation of his), but unfortunately I doubt it.
>>63375090
Watching The Nerdists' recap of the episode, I'm getting the impression that this is probably not the case. The two women during the recap were gushing about Capaldi being incredibly hot, and equally as gushing about the prospect of a female Doctor.
Some jargon about "how empowering," "it's about the soul of the character, not their body," and "give us Hayley Atwell or River!" They also couldn't shut up about the scene of the general regenning, something about how "badass" it is to see a woman take on the role of a Time Lord.
One of the guys there was funny and said that we've seen Time Ladies before Missy, named off a bunch, and then basically told the girls they were retarded for thinking it hasn't happened before. But then he failed the test because he talked about how great a female Doctor would be too.
Moffat is absolutely pandering to the tumblr crowd still. It's the chief audience of the show. I'm shocked there are even old fans that still watch it tbqh senpai.
>>63378867
i want to say it was because of the budget
>Doctor and Martha visit the very end of the universe, in the year 100 trillion, when the last stars are dying
>Doctor gets put into a confession dial in 2015 and spends 4.5 billion years there
>he comes out and is on Gallifrey, which is situated at the very end of time
>in the year 4,500,002,015 (approximately)
So what the fuck happened to the other 99,995,499,997,985 years in the universe's timeline?
>>63377571
>>63377617
It's weird to think that now her and Clara are potentially anywhere in the Doctor's time stream, protecting companions. I mean, Moffat really did cover up the plothole of the Clara echoes no longer existing by giving her a TARDIS. Now it makes sense that Ashildr will also be popping around helping Jamie, Zoe, Sarah Jane, Amy, Tegan... but not Adric or Peri, because fuck them. That's a fixed point. Can't save our companions from death beacuse those are fixed points and would fuck up the time stream!
....oh.....wait....
>>63378770
>can you explain the backstory of Rassilon?
The founder of Time Lord society. He invented time travel, along with his buddy Omega and another guy. He led the Time Lords into war with vampires and other baddies in the ancient times.
>Is he a baddie?
More or less. He only got one fleeting appearance in the classic series, in the 1983 story The Five Doctors, and it was left a bit ambiguous how much of a negative figure he was.
After that, he appeared in some audio plays featuring Paul McGann, and he was most definitely a baddie in those.
>Why is he in control of Gallifrey?
It's not really clear. The most logical speculation seems to be that the Time Lords resurrected him to led them once again in the Time War.
>And if the Doctor is Lord President, what the fuck is Rassilon doing in his place?
The Doctor was removed from office in the 1986 story The Trial of a Time Lord.
The last thing we knew before the Time War was that the Doctor's friend Romana had become president, according to the Seventh Doctor books. Davies sort of confirmed that she was president when the Time War started. No idea what happened to her after that.
>>63378968
This bugged the shit out of me too
>>63378962
>chicks wanting Hayley Atwell
So they want their first female Doctor who be a young, hot thing that will probably go around making out with lots of handsome male companions?
Nice priorities, how empowering. Much better than an older actress who could actually have stories written around her character, rather than her tits.
Seriously, you'd think as a young progressive girl you'd maybe want an older woman who won't be making out/flirting with male companions 24/7, but these bitches still can't relate to anything that isn't an attractive young person, like everyone who dropped Doctor Who because they couldn't relate to Capaldi as an older man.
>>63378968
>Implying the universe doesn't end sixty billion years in the future where the last remaining residents are a revived Sylvester McCoy and his amusement park full of sentient robot toys
now that the dust is out of the bag, rank the nuwho doctors in order of best to worst.
mine:
capaldi > eccleston > smith > dongus > tennant
Who's up for a Clara-Me spinoff in 2018 with Series 10 airing in 2017 with the Doctor-Male Companion?
>>63377608
I don't know if Moff thinks we're stupid and won't notice or is going senile when he writes this tripe.
Gallifrey is not only back but accessible and communicating with the outside universe - but what happened to the final sanction, the war, etc?
>>63377571
Do you wonder if Moffat made "Clara the most important companion ever" as a way to write in 12 being more accepting of potentially becoming female the next regen?
Consider this:
>11 takes on 12's face from Cacelius because he needed to remember he had to save people
>10 becomes 11 because he needs to be young and gallant again
>9 becomes 10 because 10 is young and attractive, the type of man that will make Rose fulfilled because 9 was in love with Rose
>War becomes 9 because of angst and old age
>8 becomes War because he has to fight
>...and so on...
I'm seriously starting to think that we will see a female Doctor next, and the rationale will be something like "Clara showed me what it takes. I need to remember how great she was. I needed to become more like her. Someone who cares."
I will fucking throw money down on this I'm so convinced at this point
>>63379050
what is the steel gauntlet that he's shown wearing a lot? is that a classic who item?
>>63377608
10/10 explanation.
Thank you!
>>63379148
Make the male companion Captain Jack and that would be pretty damn GOAT.
>>63379148
Instead, we get Class.
>>63379097
>Seriously, you'd think as a young progressive girl you'd maybe want an older woman who won't be making out/flirting with male companions 24/7, but these bitches still can't relate to anything that isn't an attractive young person, like everyone who dropped Doctor Who because they couldn't relate to Capaldi as an older man.
Nail on the head.
That specific audience wants to live vicariously through the Doctor, whether it's AS the Doctor or as his companion. They wouldn't be able to handle someone like Helen Mirren in the role.
>The hybrid is two persons.
MOFFAT YOU FUCKING HACK, ITS NOT A HYBRID IF THEY ARE SEPARATE, DID YOU AT LEAST SEARCH THAT WORD ON GOOGLE
>>63379162
One of the more BS items the Time Lords created. It allows him to wipe things from existence IIRC.
The Time Lords and Daleks have some truly insane shit. Transduction Barriers, De-Mat Guns, etc. They're two of the most powerful races i the entirety of fiction for that reason.
>>63377632
FOR FUCK'S SAKE SOMEONE TALK TO HIM ON TWITTER.
I CAN'T STAND HIM ANYMORE.
What if the Time Lords created Moffat to troll us?
>>63379210
What if they're two hybrids?
>>63379150
I don't know why any Time Lord that's spent hundreds of years as a man would suddenly want to jump feet first into being a woman.
I just don't think there's any bulletproof justification for it, literally every argument I've seen for Capaldi turning into a chick has been flimsy. Mostly for the simple reason that it doesn't "really" change all that much if he's a woman. I mean will having tits make it easier to fight living suns, or something?
>>63378770
tl;Dr Rassilon was the original Lord President, who invented time travel, created the Eye of Harmony, invented regeneration, and created all sorts of Time Lord Super Science artifacts, etc. Or maybe Omega did that and Rassilon just took the credit.
Either way, he was also a paranoid and xenophobic asshole who exterminated the vampires just because he didn't like them, and manipulated the flow of events to make sure that most life that evolved throughout the universe would conform to Gallifreyan norms (i.e. look humanoid).
But the Time Lords all treat him like a god since he pretty much founded their entire civilization. He's meant to be long dead, and interred in a tomb on Gallifrey, but in the Eighth Doctor audio series he comes back and the last we saw of him he was trapped in a pocket universe where time is a moebius loop, which he created to imprison a species that he didn't like, along with an anti-time entity. Obviously the Time Lords brought him back to lead them in the war.
Also the Doctor was only the President very briefly, because he ran away both times rather than take up his office. Romana, one of his former companions, was President the last we saw before the Time War.
>>63379210
>persons
>>63377632
Words can't describe how much i hate this guy.
his feud with The Who Show was funny though.
>>63378966
>not having a good enough budget
Not having a good enough budget to get a better writer sure
>>63379266
You're right, but they could solve that with a few throwaway lines. I mean, it's how they got Missy into the show. They could easily say the Doctor was "a woman several times before" and then bullshit that the First Doctor wasn't really the First Doctor.
>>63379274
real word, look it up.
>>63379213
And he didn't use it at all last night, he just allowed himself to get keked by the Doctor.
BRAVO MOFFAT
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>>63379274
You know, the plural of person.
>>63377704
>last shot
>implying there's no spinoff in the works
>implying Clara won't be back in a finale, or in Moffat's Journey's End, or in the 60th or 75th special.
If the Doctor becomes a girl, do you think he'd have a male companion?
>>63379274
Persons is a valid plural of person. It's used when you want to indicate multiple independent individuals, whereas people indicates a grouping.
>>63379374
No because fuck the patriarchy
>>63379306
>A- from the AV Club
Yet again, the reviewer has given an A in all Maisie Williams episodes and puts them under the category 'Stone-cold classic'
>>63379150
Except he doesn't remember Clara.
That's not going to stop the show from somehow ignoring that and pretending he does. But he's technically not supposed to.
>>63379374
Probably, but he'll be a complete doofus and incompetent because muh empowered womyn.
>>63379374
Wouldn't that be misogynistic?
>implying a strong independent female doctor needs the help of a man
I mean, maybe if he's black or a muslim. That would be okay.
>>63379325
It's almost like you want to give Moffat ideas on how to shit on the show even better.
So I thought I'd just come here to say buy to you guys. We've had some great times here and a lot of laughs but that time is over for me now.
The shows been falling off a cliff for a long time now and last night it hit the bottom. I'm done with Doctor Who and as much as it pains me done with /who/ too. This will be my last ever post.
Have a great life you lot, make it fantastic!
Post your face when Series 10 is about the Doctor trying to find out who Clara was.
I don't would have minded the white-male-to-black-female regeneration if Moffat didn't had the character pop a snarky comment about it afterwards.
It felt so goddamn infuriatingly smug and Whedon-esque in the worst way possible.
>>63379374
if the female doctor gets pregnant and regenerates before she has the baby, what happens to the baby?
>>63379462
See you at Christmas
>>63379478
dropped so quick if that happens
>>63379488
Vanish as a foreign body embedded in him/her.
>>63379488
You'll have to wait until it becomes a series arc to find out.
>>63379488
>Implying Time Lords get pregnant
LOOMS
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>>63379142
Acceptable list. Here is mine
Smith > Eccleston > Capaldi >>>>>> Tennat
>>63379364
Donald's Rassilon was only there to further the Doctor's plan to revive Clara.
The ENTIRETY of Gallifrey in this episode only existed to cater to the whims of the general audience who adore Clara. Moffat shouldn't of catered to them.
The Doctor should've used some BS to turn Clara into a Time Lord. She then regenerates within the span of a heartbeat - nullifying the causality of her death. (She's supposed to die as a human, not as a Time Lady). So she's free.
The Doctor then gives NuClara the stole TARDIS to fuck off with. He then "deals" with Rassilon and the High Council instead of banning them.
The rest of the episode is a 45-minute long argument between the Doctor and Rassilon as they try to come to terms. You can bring in Missy and any other Time Lords who should be alive. It ends with the Doctor somehow reforming the established rules of Time Lord society, then he leaves with Gallifrey returned to the normal universe.
>>63379433
The critics are really generous with their grades.
This season has had;
2 Bs
3 B+
2 A-
5 As
The most critically acclaimed season of NuWho, too bad we can't say the same thing about the ratings.
>>63379517
>tfw you just want to be a strong black women that don't need no man
Do Time Lords have a special powerlevel setting on their guns somewhere in between "nonlethal" and "lethal" that's marked "force regeneration"?
>>63379121
>implying the universe doesn't end in the year 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, when the last people alive are a few humans who experience Time backwards, living in the carcass of a dead TARDIS
Someone posted this forever ago:
>The Master became Missy, and the Doctor didn't bat an eye. Actually, nobody really did. The fanbase ate it up.
>Talk this season about "hybrids" and "changing roles," though honestly it's been things like "friends becoming enemies" and "warriors joining together." We did get Zygons that were genderfluid, however, and Maisie Williams's character was able to pass as male as she grew older through time
>Missy jokes about being friends with the Doctor since "he was a little girl," and then won't admit whether she was lying or not
>When 12 uses regen energy on the Daleks, he says that it was probably "going to cost him a leg or something" down the line. Third leg is British slang for penis.
>When 11 met his Tardis in human form, he talked about the Corsair being a Time Lord who freely swapped sexes at will for fun, implying that it's something all Time Lords can casually do
>Clara has been said to be turning into the Doctor
>We also have seen the Doctor become increasingly more comfortable with genderfluidity, liberal sexual roles, etc. as the audience has become more comfortable with. Admittedly, this may be the writers just reflecting the times in their writing, but it's something worth noting
>The 50th dropped that the Doctor had "many, many regenerations" to come
>We know that Time Lord biology is kind of fucked up, and that even though the "looms" aren't canon the show never really says that Time Lords have sex the way humans do nor do even need two sexes NOR do they need to even resemble humans at all (see Romana II's regenerations in 4th Doctor era)
>Moffat wrote the Red Nose Day special, "Curse of the Fatal Death," where the Doctor's final regeneration IS a woman
>The general's regen in Hell Bent
>I think we're getting a female Doctor next. My evidence is not impeccable or perfect (a lot of this could be seen as tinfoil hat conspiracy), but the writing's on the wall. It WILL happen.
>>63379462
I am thinking of completely leaving /who/ as well.
It negatively affects my view of the episodes.
>>63379325
>First Doctor wasn't really the First Doctor.
I will fucking drop this show. I will fucking kill myself. Don't even joke about this shit.
>>63379478
>>63379446
But he remembers what they did. That's important enough for him to reflect at his regeneration and say, "I need to be more like who she was, whoever she was."
POOF
Suddenly we have a female Doctor who acts like Clara. Just like Capaldi got his face because 10 saved one Roman family.
>>63379625
>a female Doctor who acts like Clara
So...the Doctor. But with tits.
>>63379613
B-But anon, he used to be a little girl!
>>63379597
By exposing their flaws?
>>63379374
Yes it'll be a big burly black guy to go with recent trends
>>63379613
WELLLLL......
11 did say that the Doctor was a name they chose. You could argue that Hartnell was the first "Doctor," but not the actual first incarnation of the Time Lord who TOOK that title.
...I'll get my coat.
>>63379325
>then bullshit that the First Doctor wasn't really the First Doctor.
If that happened I would actually visit William Hartnell's grave and place flowers on it once every month for the rest of my life.
There are things you fuck with in Doctor Who, but fucking with ANYTHING to do with Hartnell is absolutely sacrilegious.
>>63379625
>Suddenly we have a female Doctor who acts like Clara.
So... Clara?
Is the Doctor a continuation of the Other?
>>63379698
Well, then they'd have to throw in a reason for the Doctor to have more regenerations than normal before ToTD
So what was the point of this season and why couldn't they just kill Clala off in a christmas special?
>>63379478
I actually started hyperventilating. Fuck you anon.
>>63379712
FUCK, NOT AGAIN
The last thing we need is THIS argument.It depends on whether or not he's Natural or a Loom.
>>63379517
>>63379572
You could have saved him, /who/. Why didn't you save him?
>>63379738
Because Moffat wanted a bullshit Mary Sue ending over a poetic and melancholy one.
This series we had nothing but plots that dragged their feet toward stupid resolutions. This is what you get for series made of two-parters.
>>63379613
Well, The Brain of Morbius implied this.
Apparently Robert Holmes had some idea about Davision being supposed to be the last incarnation (hence why he says "Is this death?"), and Colin Baker was supposed to be an anomaly that somehow broke that limit. No other writer ran with that idea though.
>>63379597
By calling out the bullshit writing?
>>63379752
But Galifreyans were sterile
It's funny how Moffat as a kid was bullied into acting a certain way and now moffat as an adult as been bullied into writing a certain way.
If you can't stand the heat get out of the fucking kitchen cunt.
>>63379752
He's natural. Looms are out. Which means all the Pythia shite is out. Which means Lungbarrow is out. Which means Faction Paradox is out. It's like the Star Wars EU. It's all fucking out.
>rewatch
>still awful
>check Wikipedia to see how badly it got panned
>>"Hell Bent" received critical acclaim.
What the fuck?
>>63379843
Well, either the critics are idiots or you are.
>Series 10
>Doctor regenerates into a woman.
>Companion is a suave black man.
>Enemies are crazy white guys
>Missy is the Doctor's fuckbuddy/enemy
>Time Lords come back as Women and Minorities
>Daleks and Cybermen are revealed to be the remnants of white men
>Rassilon regenerates into a Black Man
>Omega is Asian
>Rani returns
>Finale involves the Doctor working with everyone to destroy the evil white Daleks and Cybermen.
>>63379833
src?
>>63379142
Eccleston => Capaldi => Hurt > Smith => Tennant
Was the old woman in the barn supposed to be the Doctor's mother?
>>63379863
Probably both
>>63379872
>autumn 2018
>>63379843
It seems there is a tendency amongst anyone reviewing Doctor Who in a "professional" capacity to amongst the most hardcore of fanboys and apologists.
>>63379097
>>63379201
Honestly even Helen Mirren's a bit too sexy for something like this. I was thinking an older woman more along the lines of Tilda Swinton. I mean don't get me wrong I'd still have sex with Tilda Swinton, but she's not "sexy" and she's got a presence about her that's commanding without being overbearing.
It is completely true, though. These fuckers are tourists that have absolutely no appreciation for what Doctor Who used to be and just want to see their fanfictions on screen.
Fuck, I bet if I looked for it I could FIND fanfictions where Hayley Atwell is the 13th Doctor (well, 14th). They just want Tits McGee being wacky like whatever tumblr persona they see themselves whilst still being sexy and sassy because I don't wanna look at multiple seasons of an old plain woman that I can't relate to.
>>63379913
I thought she was his nanny/caretaker/landlady.
Capaldi> Hurt> Tennant > Eccleston >>>>>>Smith
>>63379913
Probably the caretaker of the barn the Doctor grew up in with other boys.
>>63379863
Critics are generally morons
>>63379879
The fact that we've seen him as a child, when the Looms produced people with adult bodies, and the Doctor has referenced being a child many times, as well as being seen as a child.
That's...I mean, you'd have to be retarded to try and defend them further. The looms explicitly produced adults. There's no way to weasel out of that. Seeing child Time Lords means no looms.
>>63379872
*raises glass*
>>63379843
Was there actually an episode that was panned?
>>63379863
I am definitely an idiot but this episode was the Phantom Menace of Doctor Who.
>>63377638
As much as one could cry SJW on that,
this scene is important in a sense that it showed that regeneration sex change is abnormality. She's back to normal female incarnation with one male left uneven.
And if Doctor would become female, he could always turn back again eventually.
>>63379872
>series 10
>picture says 2018
>nope no thank you
>>63379983
That in no way invalidates Looms.
>>63379989
Y'know she's got a good chance of being the next Doctor right?
BBC is salivating for "progressive" changes. Which is fine. The show needs a new runner though - Moffat's gotta go.
>>63379946
Or they have some really weird biases.
Philip Sandifer, for instance, seems to genuinely suffer from the delusion that all of Doctor Who was building towards Moffat's tenure, and therefore Moffat MUST be the most perfect shownrunner ever and therefore he can do no wrong.
>>63380054
Do women really need to steal roles from men to be good? What kind of progress is this?
>>63379872
Fucking fuck my shit up with a splintery broomhandle fám.
>>63379843
>>63379863
Honestly it was good until about the last third.
>>63380042
Okay, hit me with your logic. If the Doctor, Loom born as an adult in the books has been seen as a child in the TV series, how, exactly, are the Looms invalidated? Cite a goddamn source.
>>63380054
I truly believe she's the next one(and after what she said on Twitter, I am very hopeful)
But Moffat has written his male to female regeneration, he has checked possibly all the boxes in his showrunner wishlist, it's time to go and have someone else write for the next Doctor, male or female.
>>63379681
>>63379710
Aspects of her personality, yes. Control freak, "teacher," takes risk.. but still the Doctor. With tits. ...yeah...
The only winning combination for a female Doctor is as follows:
>played by moderately attractive actress in her '40s, maaaaybe mid to late '30s
>brunette, darker features, aristocratic British accent
>dresses in equestrian clothing with a scarf, jacket, riding boots, khakis, and occasional hat (pic related)
>alt outfits would include a peacoat with scarf and maybe a hat/tie/vest combo that channels Annie Hall or Romana
>has an Agent Scully like personality where she is constantly questioning things and very skeptical, has a detective's approach to scenarios
>very asexual and put off by the advances of others
>very judgmental of others and has a low opinion of her enemies/mankind (like 9 and 4)
>not afraid to shove it to her companions either
>companion one is a brash young male, 20's, maybe non-white, who is a cop or something like it from an earlier decade ('70s?), follows Doctor's orders without question and gets into scuffles a lot
>companion two is a stuffy, prudish woman, 20's, who is something like a teacher, librarian, or bohemian artist from a future time period and another planet, a bit of a bleeding heart who can't get past her insecurities and clashes with the Doctor on morals often
>Doctor's quirks include playing croquet, being able to talk to animals, and newfound interests in sewing, gradening and wearing funny hats
>loves to eat tea biscuits and has a thing for classic movies, thinks highly of the "golden age of hollywood", makes quips that she "knew the Hepburns" and "Casablanca? Oh, it's real. I was there!"
>TARDIS console is basically a burgundy version of 12's, bookshelves now joined by grandfather clocks and antiques, gold leaf ivy pattern on walls
>artist companion adds mannequins, easels, and some artsy flair
>TARDIS constantly questioning this Doctor's "legitimacy" and getting jealous they are now female
>>63379142
>>63379541
shit lists m99s, here's a good one:
tennant > eccleston > capaldi >>>>>>> shit >>>>> smith
Why do we need to be progressive again?
>>63380134
Annie Hall outfit
>>63380094
Just being devil advocate there, you could think of all sorts of bullshit if you want.
Say, Clara grabed Other by the ankle, and other children, well, there were children in pre-Rassilon era an curse is lifted by the end of "Lungbarrow"
>>63380145
Nah, that's pretty tumblr, m8.
Come back when you get that multiculti dick out of your ass, Ahmed.
In my head canon, the Doctor didn't forget Clara. And he'll remember her at Christmas anyway.
>>63380081
>>63380080
Don't fight it. You'll just feel more pain.
Instead, focus on the possible good things that can come from it.
Sure the Doctor's not a guy anymore, but she's still gonna be white! We all know how Black people can trigger /who/.
Plus she'll get your dick hard constantly - so you don't have to be worried about getting bored during each episode!
>>63380149
Because being stuck in the past is for Thatcher loving gob shites.
>>63380054
As a few people were saying in the thread before, making the Doctor a sexy young woman is perhaps the worst choice you could make for your first female Doctor.
The idiots actually actually advocating Hayley Titwell have their heads in the sand just as much as the people they think they're so much more progressive than.
>women are vain whores who like to live vicariously through the character and don't like being reminded of their fleeting youth and fertility after all, so let's make the first female Doctor a hot, young thing with stonking great tits that'll probably have dalliances with attractive male companions.
>>63380149
No idea.
Why can't we just have a black, middle-aged, sexy, asian woman as the next Doctor and cover up all the demographics?
I was a bit angry that BBC spoiler "Gallifrey" in the synopsis, but I would liked that episode more if I knew before it's going to be less about Gallifrey and more about Clara.
