What killed cinema as an art?
White people.
80's.
capitalism
Money
>>63192561
hollywood. Many people don't realize that movies were a thing before the jews got their hand on them.
>>63192601
*tips workers cap*
Star Wars and Jaws
>>63192579
>White people.
They ruin everything, don't they?
Name one thing that hasn't been perverted and commodified into pure garbage by white people?
>>63192582
This
>>63192561
When presented a weak dog and a strong dog, one naturally prefers the smarter one.
Same goes for humans, humans evolved based on their intelligence not in their strength, otherwise chimpazees or gorillas would had been evolve before us.
>>63192642
your welfare check
>>63192561
same thing that killed pornography as an art. poor people.
>>63192601
Sorry but "white people" already covers this because there is no white race or white culture, rather white people and their culture is simply Liberal Capitalism.
>>63192642
Literally can't
Maybe Ultimate Frisbee?
>>63192668
The Nazi is probably smarter than the other guy though, who looks like a hippie
>>63192631
Prove it
>>63192690
non-white countries practice capitalism
>>63192561
Memes
>>63192677
Ackshully, white people managed to turn government services into a form of social control, a tool to keep the lower orders in line.
disney
>>63192561
>I like big guys in leather boots and black uniform
>>63192728
>get free shit
>still complain
shtiskins never cease to amaze me
>>63192722
It's state capitalism though, not the degenerate liberal variant.
>Strong horse
>>63192668
>implying women don't just go for the Chad Thundercocks rather than smart well educated redpilled men
>STAR WARS
The end of cinema as an art form in USA, a return to the cinema of spectacle. Step right up, folks, see the spaceships!
>PULP FICTION
With Pulp Fiction, the America viewing public finally acknowledged all the films they once saw as a "guilty pleasures" as legitimate art. All of a sudden Texas Chainsaw Massacre was inducted into New York's Museum of Modern Art. Slasher films were revived and shared movie theaters with "high art".
Now people had an excuse to say all the crappy movies they had seen were important. All of a sudden academic papers were being written on the virtues of Ernest films.
Quality of writing dipped, because people were more concerned with "impressions to ideas" or used it as an excuse not to actually learn anything so they could justify sitting alone masturbating to porn, rather than reading book. It was another excuse for our generation to feel entitled to their tastes, and consequently defend them inarticulately.
>>63192769
>20 million casualties
>>63192759
all capitalism is "state capitalism"
>>63192757
You got a problem boy?
>>63192758
I'm not american, but I never understand how welfare works, you supposed to get a check for being unemployed? Then what's the point of having a job?.
I mean I understand poor or homeless people getting free food or free healthcare, even free education, but free money for doing nothing?
>>63192561
Who the fuck quotes Usama bin Laden?
>>63192805
>20 million abortions
>>63192834
Yes.
Don't question it shitlord or you'll get fired for being a bigot.
>>63192875
>10 million raped in Russia
>>63192790
>Literally the most retarded type of human mating the second most retarded type of human
Gee I wonder why, I guess woman love niggers too
>>63192834
Unemployment runs out after a while, that's not really a problem since it's hard to abuse.
What shitskins do is they have kids out of wedlock which makes them entitled to government benefits until the kid is 18. That's when it's abused. Black women will have a kid every few years to keep the gravy train rolling.
>>63192834
theres like 140 different welfare programs in the US, and only a handful actually dole out cash. most are a voucher type system for food and housing.
the cash programs are for people who are disabled or families with a bunch of kids they can't afford to take care of.
unemployment is actually a form of insurance that your employer pays into for you, and requires you to work for at least 6 months at a job before eligible.
yurops think our social welfare system is shitty, but its actually pretty fucking good.
I imagine the majority of people on 4chan, given their opinions, grew up as white-poor or working class-poor, so why exactly are they so in favor of fascism and capitalistic practices that both surrender them of liberties and living wages.
It's like these people are so fucking stupid they love gaping their mouth open and having billionaires take a fat steaming shit in their mouth. Then once they gobble it up they sit there smiling with their shit stained teeth talking about hot liberalism is destroying the common sense and traditionalism America was based on. Is there a more cancerous retard then the middle/south/south-east American that knows nothing about the political structure and it's congruence with business that they actually support a system of power that helps perpetuate it.
Nothing. In fact, we're in a golden age of artistic cinema. Independent films are cheap as fuck to make these days compared to 20+ years ago, and there are tons of great indie movies every year.
The problem is you faggots only watch Hollywood movies and are surprised that it's not "artistic". That's like going to a mall food court and complaining that the art of cooking is dead.
>>63192642
Yes, good goy, "white people" commodify everything to make a quick buck don't they?
>>63192862
>True sentiments are untrue when an unpopular person states them
>>63193003
Tldr Marxism.
>>63192981
Euros just want to be able to sit in a tiny apartment all day and play video games, all paid for the by their government. If they can't do that, then they consider your social programs shit.
t. finn
>>63193036
You can make a thread about anything anon. The indie movie threads exist, you just miss them and act like a victim.
>>63192757
For you
>>63193113
I actually like that /tv/ doesn't discuss indie movies because you guys would just make endless memes about them.
I only come here for holllywood shit.
I think you guys would be interested in my movie.
It's got some bretty good scenes but it's not great. The dubbing went pretty shit.
>>63193054
That was never implied.
>>63192642
Where do people like you come from
>>63193003
at what point does a small business owner turn into your comic book villain CEO?
you literally cannot make line-in-the-sand legislation without shitting on entrepreneurs.
as someone who owns their own business, go fuck yourself with your socialist garbage.
Nothing, it's alive and well. Although this year hasn't been too great but that's probably because I haven't discovered the best ones yet.
Nothing, more artistic films are being made every single year you fucking
youre just too busy shitposting on here to notice
>>63193003
Go back to tumblr with your high schooler enlightenment
>>63193139
There's good threads on late night when there's less traffic (as is common on all boards).
not entirely serious, but he's definitely part of the problem
>>63193036
/cine/ when?
>>63192561
Now put a bull next to both and see which one women will choose.
>>63193039
>Yes, good goy, "white people" commodify everything to make a quick buck don't they?
Yes, "white people" do (hint: Jews are white).
>>63192834
Nobody in America gets welfare for no working. You have to be working at a job, or recently been working to qualify for welfare.
The notion of welfare queens and such is a boogeyman red herring the ruling classes in America use to rile up the conservatives and get them to vote/act against their own self interest.
>>63192561
You
>>63193394
This guy, Cimino and Coppola singlehandedly murdered the authority of the director in mainstream cinema
>>63192561
>there are people who actually prefer fascism.
weak-willed, low test pussies who want to be subjugated.
>>63193505
welfare queens do exist, but they aren't who you think they are.
i was on SNAP/EBT and housing assistance for the entire time i was in college. 800$ a month in living expenses being paid for made my minimum wage paycheck pretty damn comfy.
i get how people can just get stuck on it.
>>63193003
>It's like these people are so fucking stupid they love gaping their mouth open and having billionaires take a fat steaming shit in their mouth.
Because racism. They will cut off their nose just to spite their own face. Conservatives on average have much lower IQ rates than liberals, which tends to make them useful idiots for those in power who want to exploit them to the maximum.
>>63193597
seriously. it's for fags who can't/don't want to control their own lives
>>63193597
Yeah, we shouldn't have leaders at all.
Go Communism.
>>63193264
generally entrepreneurs become successful entrepreneurs by shitting on other entrepreneurs. all you're doing is sentimentalizing the work ethic, so anything that goes wrong must be the result of people who are fundamentally not "like you" instead of other people who think of themselves as small businessmen even if they reach the level of selling their company for tens/hundreds of millions.
>>63192601
>the black visualization of corporations
Midlake was behind it all!
>>63193762
>Wanting a virtual dad to tell you what to do
C*ck spotted
>>63193857
Wut?
I'm agreeing with you.
>>63192561
Art in cinema is thriving as fuck.
What the hell are you on about?
Obviously the consumers happened. We're living in the post-modern age where anything goes. As long as it makes you feel some form of joy, it's good enought.
But also the creators and producers are at fault. It wouldn't surpise me if most of those 40something directors working in hollywood right now think Star Wars and Spielberg flicks are the greatest shit ever.
The studio system is also a much bigger and more well-oiled machinery now too. Artists and writers no longer decide what gets made, a bunch of soulless autists that do nothing but go from meeting to meeting, looking at graphs and diagrams all day are the ones who decide everything. The average consumer has probably seen more movies than them.
>>63193791
>all you're doing is sentimentalizing the work ethic
has nothing to do with work ethic. private enterprise is a fundamental right. socialism seeks to destroy that. private enterprise has given me a significantly better quality of life. so tell me why i should hate the big bad corporations and get on board with the rest of the comrades?
>>63192642
there's nothing. maybe 4chan.
China
>>63192561
>>63194067
I'd have to agree with that actually...even though I love Speilberg's films.
>>63193003
I was thinking about this today: what makes the inhumanities atrocious is the apex of post-war consumer based capitalism, the core family household. The world burns and they keep living on a differnt planet legitimising genocides.
>>63193623
>there we go with the genetics again
>>63192981
>>63193505
same thing in Europe. Except Greece, Greece is now worse than america in terms of social insurance.
>>63194462
>socialism seeks to destroy that. private enterprise has given me a significantly better quality of life. so tell me why i should hate the big bad corporations and get on board with the rest of the comrades?
number one, because capitalism eventually will deprive you of your little shot at success (are you going to outsell Adidas? No. Do you even have distribution?)
number 2, because you should care about the well being of those around you, you fucking psycho.
