How did dwarves/orcs/whoever get light and fresh air into Moria?
What did they eat there?
>>63187131
Your mom's twat
>>63187131
Elaborate ventilation systems.
Mushroom farming using pigshit fertilizer.
Pork farming using the mushrooms as food.
Also remember that the Dwarves were masters of trading, and caravans for things they couldn't develop underground such as ingredients for alcoholic beverages were regular.
>>63187131
NUTHIN BUT MAGGOTY BREAD
>>63187213
But unless the air was much much cooler in the caves, they'd need a fan to push the air down
>>63187213
Mushrooms need decaying matter to grow.
Where did they get that from
And how would a ventilation system work without ventilators?
>>63187261
>But unless the air was much much cooler in the caves
You mean like how underground temperature readings are typically lower than above ground temperature readings?
>>63187131
Is this the new WY DIDNT DEY JUST FLY TO MORDOR :DDDDD meme?
>>63187385
it's just that lotr worldbuilding falls apart when you talke a closer look at it
>>63187513
>worldbuilding falls apart.
>living quarters are up relatively high
>mentions that moria in particular was extremely wealthy and traded for stuff in it's heydey.
>>63187305
with that place filled with dwarves? think again cunt
>>63187513
Oh my god, nobody cares.
Well, apart from autists like you.
>>63187537
It is not just Moria
Look at Shire, for example. How were the phyiscally weak and peaceful Hobbits able to secure such lush and fertile lands for themselves?
>>63187627
they made it that way, they're masters at carpentry and gardening
>>63187627
they had human's protections, remember the bigass rohans army.
>>63187550
Cunt? I'm not the retard who conveniently forgets that Moria was built mostly at ground level into a mountain.
>>63187275
Dead goblins.
>>63187642
>>63187681
In real life they would have been enslaved by either orcs or humans who would exploit their skills
Do you think the Dwarves had built a shantytown in between the pillars in the great hall? Because there's nothing in Moria that suggests habitation or even habitability - no living quarters, no mess halls, no barracks, no agricultural spaces. HACKSOOOOON!
>>63187131
>Dwarven City
>Just loads of pillars
wat
>>63187627
When the ancestors of the halflings moved to the Shire it had nothing.
The closest kingdom of Men, Arnor, was ruled by the honorable Numenoreans from it's founding until it's collapse, and even afterwards the surviving Numenorians, the Dunedain, patrolled the land between fallen Arnor and the south, so there was no malevolent force in proximity to attack the Shire.
You're just asking stupid questions that have answers in the lore, but you're too much of a plebshit nigger to read a book.
>>63187745
i think they had properties and business in human cities, paying large taxes to the kings.their short height and fat bodies can be mockery of capitalism.
>>63187745
The Dunedain protected them dude
>>63187807
that was a hall
>>63187825
So the honorable Numenoreans/Dunedain protected hobbits while getting nothing in return?
Yeah, thats not how reality works
>>63187217
This 2bh familia
>>63187860
Then how comes 2 humans could take over the shire?
Why didn't human kings send help?
>>63187901
trade agreements and services in return for a defensive pact
>>63187901
Good thing we're talking about literal fantasy then
>>63187901
>so the honorable British protected Dutch/Belgians while getting nothing in return
>so the honorable Americans protected Canadians while getting nothing in return
also
>reality
>Tolkien fantasy
Autist detected.
>>63187952
fantasy that completly disregards logistics or even basic human nature
>>63187748
>one room is all of moria
they're rushing through a labyrinth filled with monsters, why would they stop to explore the living quarters?
>>63187939
all the kingdoms were in distress, busy saving their own asses from orcs.
>>63188019
humans who lived western of the misty mountains were completly unaffected by the war
>>63187745
In real life there wouldn't be orcs...
>>63188003
>basic human nature
>Numenoreans
>Elves
>basic human nature
Literally fuck off and read the books you mongoloid scumbag.
>>63188078
>easterlings invading dale
>fighting at the foot of erebor
>completely untouched
>>63187939
>2 humans
Again, read the fucking book, it was hundreds of Men, and then only as long as it took the halflings to revolt.
>>63188088
>Orcs
>Turks
>nigger
>>63188159
anyway, it is completly unrealistic that in a world where orc raids are common the hobbit community has no standing army to defeat a few humans.
>>63188119
Elves and Numenoreans act pretty humanlike
plump helmets
magma
probably some part of literal magic
>>63188210
how do plump helmets grow without photosynthesis?
>>63188333
cave fungi
>>63188208
>Elves and Numenoreans act pretty humanlike
Even though the very reason we're talking about this is because they did something non-humanlike, by your own observation?
>>63188088
>>63188208
>anyway, it is completly unrealistic that in a world where orc raids are common
Look at the map and read the books you dumb nigger, orcs and goblinkind have been confined to Mordor and Moria for a millennium.
>Elves and Numenoreans act pretty humanlike
Except they don't, which is why you're saying the actions of the Elvish and Numenorean kingdoms go against your view of 'human nature'.
>>63187901
Numenoreans got primo crops, ale, and food because Tolkenian little folk are absurdly good at being farmers.
>>63188589
Numenoreans have superhuman strength and lifespan, telepathic abilities and shit.
That doesn't mean they dont have human attributes like greed
>>63188731
Except there was no trade with Dunedais.
Those were seen as strangers and hobos and were generally not welcome
dwarves don't need air
>>63187745
>enslaving a group of people that eat 10-15 meals a day
>implying the Shire wasn't a containment zone set up by the humans to keep these hungry, hungry midgets in check
>>63187901
The hobbits actually fought alongside numeroneans against the witch king.
>>63187825
"it's" is a contraction of "it is". "its" is the word you're looking for.
for example:
"The closest kingdom of Men, Arnor, was ruled by the honorable Numenoreans from it's founding until it's collapse,..."
Should be
"The closest kingdom of Men, Arnor, was ruled by the honorable Numenoreans from its founding until its collapse,..."
