Why is the show so good? And why aren't you watching it right now, /tv/?
- female main character is badass and chugs down 2x whiskey/day and still functions perfectly
- her gf is an utterly paranoid krav maga monster who also has a high paying job and is beautiful -> also helps jessica (how many people would do that?)
- the bf is indestuctable black badass
- and the villain is just killing it
Is it the most realistic /tv/-superhero show up to this day?
>>63006693
its good
>>63006693
If I was a blue pilled SJW kekold I would watch it but I'm not, so I don't.
>>63006693
it's good, but does have its flaws.
I like the kinky incest twins.
why would a superhero show need to be realistic?
>>63008359
>incest
This is never implied
>>63006693
overall I liked it. its not top stuff but it was worth my time (unlike lets say supergirl)
>>63008388
then whats up with their strange play?
>>63008359
they were not hot so their incest is disgusting
>>63008345
>blue
Gimme a red
>>63008388
it is always implied, with every character.
Should I know my Marvel shit for it to make sense?
SJW:The Show
>>63008506
no.
>>63008506
When has any superhero adaption ever required you to actually know shit about comics? 99.9% of the people watching this have never heard of Jessica Jones comics.
>>63008544
sense 8 is SJW:The Show. this show is ok unless you are deliberately looking for things to dislike
>>63008593
this tb h
It's quite good but not as Daredevil.
Also the fight scenes are a huge step backward and looks like a Buffy or Supernatural episode (even the low camera angle when Jessica or Cage punch someone and they show him flying to a wall), unlike the ones in DD
>>63008581
are the comics called 'jessica jones'?
Yet another show to make me feel ashamed for being white. Every white character in this show is a horrible person. The blacks are all good innocent people who do nothing wrong.
>>63008642
I agree that the fight scenes in DD were better, but I think it has to be taken into account that Matt is a martial arts especialist. Jessica and Luke are just two regular people that happen to have superpowers.
So in the end the simplistic fight choreography of JJ didn't actually bother me.
>>63006693
>superhero
that's why
>"alcoholism is badass" lel shes so damaged and cool!
>>63008826
She drinks because she got raped by fuckgrave you sexist pig
>>63009188
yea shes so damaged xD
>>63008345
>not watching for the straight white male that takes literal red pills and was entirely correct about everything, despite the perceived extreme nature of his position
>>63006693
>Is it the most realistic /tv/-superhero show up to this day?
This would be true if they would use fucking earplugs against kilgrave.
>>63008826
>Meanwhile /tv/ praises the fuck out of True Detective
it is literally always okay when men do it
>>63009320
confirmed for not even watching the show
>>63009306
>realistic about how red pill Ideology makes you alpha but pushes women away
>>63006693
>Why is the show so good?
it's a generous 6/10 at best
what's really good is Marvel's PR
>>63009306
Did you finish the show? That character was the only useful non-evil white man until ...they made him evil murdering lunatic....
The original comic was much better. The problem with the show is that they made the entire Killgrave arc into the entire show. Like the Alias was a great comic because it gave you a different perspective of the Marvel Universe. You have this powerful person like Jessica Jones doing mundane thing like being a PI. She was once a hero saving the day like many people in the Marvel Universe but something happened that made her quit that. Had the JJ show explored more of the MCU it would have been a much better show. By having it self contained and focusing everything into the Killgrave story rob the audience of something fun.
>>63006693
she smiles smugly while closing her eyes too much which makes me highly annoyed for some reason.
so, no.
It is pretty good, but I could do without the lesbian sub plot. Seriously, who gives a fuck about those two in the slightest. A shame they killed purple man
>>63009460
This
It's honestly shocking
>>63009256
>damaged
Memes aside, Tennant was actually pretty based as Killgrave. Really nailed that whole smug, fucked up vibe that the character needed
>>63006693
Krysten Ritter is ugly
The characters make dumb decisions
Killgrave is boring
Carrie Ann Moss is an ugly annoying dyke
Mr white police guy is a raging lunatic who makes stupid decisions
le strong blond female "just because I had a good time last night doesn't mean I want your opinion" aka LE STRONG WOMYN CAN MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS U WHITE CISSCUM
>>63009662
this is a list of bad opinions
>>63009560
Did you finish my post?
>and was entirely correct about everything, despite the perceived extreme nature of his position
Kilgrave needed to die and couldn't be put in jail. He killed one detective and tried to kill Jessica to accomplish this.
Kilgrave caused multiple deaths, which are on his and Jessica's hands. Fuck Hope, she even had a plea deal.
The math says Nuke was right.
>>63009341
I dont watch true detective
I've never considered alcoholism cool, only babbies who have never drank before seem to admire it
>>63009686
fuck off, the show is really bad.
literally 1 step above Supergirl
I watched it just to see Matt murdock and they only put there that fucking nigger nurse bitch
>>63006693
female alcoholics are the most disgusting slobs in the world. just gross
>>63010130
male alcoholics - ok
female alcoholics - disgusting
this is why we need feminsim
>>63010157
men have a reason to drink since they don't have life on easymode. Sluts can just put a dating profile up and get hundreds of people to entertain them
>>63010157
both are disgusting, drinking like that is only cool if youre a kiddie thats never drank before
Daredevil was better. And thanks to this place i now notice all the SJW shit even more.
>>63009662
>Krysten Ritter is ugly
I think she is cute.
>The characters make dumb decisions
Everyone does from time to time plus without that you wouldn't have a story to tell.
>Killgrave is boring
Killgrave was the only reason most of us kept watching.
>Carrie Ann Moss is an ugly annoying dyke
Annoying maybe, not really ugly if you consider her age but her sexuality was forced on us.
>Mr white police guy is a raging lunatic who makes stupid decisions
He is on drugs.
>le strong blond female "just because I had a good time last night doesn't mean I want your opinion" aka LE STRONG WOMYN CAN MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS U WHITE CISSCUM
I 100% agree on that one.
>point by point feminist agenda: the show
thread is full of kucks
>>63006693
He ain't even purple
>>63010130
This is true. There's nothing more annoying then drunk chicks you aren't fucking.
Does Luke Cage have any powers other then being invulnerable? He seems abnormally strong, though not as much as JJ.
>>63012202
he's a big guy
>>63006693
>everyone is unlikable
>daredevil was better in every way
>Ritter is a really unconvincing actress
>the villain is the best character
Don't think I'll be watching the next season tbqh
It just upsets me how they shove the gratuitous sex scenes between Jessica and Luke Cage in our face. We get it, an unbreakable dick and an powerful dick breaker (immovable object vs unstoppable force joke). It was only funny the first time. However, they engaged in copious amounts of sex around 5x in the first 2 episodes. They pretty much poisoned the well. The show was somewhat good, I say it was only good because the white protagonist showed how all males end up getting screwed by society. He just needed to be cared for and then the powerful womyn destroyed his life when he really wasn't that bad in the first place. Overall, I give it around 3 stars.
>>63006693
here are the only things i'm intersted in:
1. Sex Scenes
2. Nudity (full frontal)
3. Extreme Profanity
4. Drug Use
5. Extreme Violence
6. Luke Cage (doing her in the butt)
is any of this in the actual show?
If not i don't care, leave this board and take your Marvel shilling ass somewhere else
>>63012573
1,4,5, and possibly 6
>>63008737
No. Well not all of them
She's most known for being in 'Alias'
It was nice of them to force in 3-4 interracial sex scenes per episode but I think if they'd cut some more plot they could have fit in a few more.
>>63006693
i'm not sure if if Jessica Jones is a boring protag or if i'm unable to enjoy a show with a female protag, it's probably a little bit of both
Are the any good foot scenes or shots of her tits?
Not watching otherwise. Choose your response carefully. My viewership hinges on the answer
>>63009320
They do.
But you can't just cover your ears.
90% of the time kilgrave is using some kind of hostage as a backup plan. Also he can do stuff visually, its implied.
At least later, they get told to cover their eyes
>>63013149
There's plenty of full black male nudity. Close enough?
>>63013149
Her feet are fucking gross anyway.
>>63006693
Hooked at episode 3, started losing interest at episode 10, just have 13 to watch.
>>63013255
To be fair, the final episode is a pretty good episode.
Also has the most solid tie to daredevil.
>>63006693
It's a legitimately good show but the social justice crowd is shitting itself about how "diverse" it is just because it has an interracial relationship so don't try to discuss it online.
>>63006693
It isn't good. The second half is terrible because the characters continuously make bad decisions due to poor writing and the general need to drag the story out further to span the season.Kilgrave escapes custody and even life threatening torture four times throughout the show due to the incompetence of constant bad decisions, it just becomes comical and frustrating to watch.
Just an above average show in totality, i couldn't wait for it to be over by the last two episodes i was that bored, annoyed and uninterested despite being sadly quite invested in it by that point.
Not recommended.
I thought it was alright but cutting it down to 10 episodes would have helped a lot, just like daredevil. Idk why netflix keeps ordering so many.
>>63006693
>And why aren't you watching it right now
not a kek
>>63006693
>white men are psycho rapists, neurotic sexual deviants, and muh fragile masculinity (Kilgrave, Ruben, Simpson)
>black men are tough, sexually and emotionally competent, and eminently reasonable (Luke, Malcolm, Detective Clemons)
It's an above-average genre show, and the Jewish feminist who made it (seriously, it's like shooting fish in a barrel) has every right to produce what she pleases, but don't kid yourself about the agenda this thing is pushing.
On a less political level, it would help the show if it transcended its genre trappings (as is it's just capeshit gone noir, like an edgy Veronica Mars) and actually wrote characters with interior lives instead of gelatinous blobs defined almost entirely by their trauma. Someone brought up the hypocrisy of criticising Jones for her drinking but not the protagonist of True Detective; the difference is that drinking problems seem affected when your character's entire schtick is trauma. There's no tension between the voluntary actions of the personalities and their experiences. They are just agents of those experiences, which in effect means they have no agency, and are thus not very believable. The TD MC's freshman philosophy was a little silly sometimes, but it felt believable and characterised him more fully. There was meaning and agency and thought.
On a less significant note, the pacing was pretty glacial, and not in a good way.
>>63014772
In True Detective their never joke around about alcoholism. In Jessica Jones she makes flippant jokes about it all the time. Her alcoholism is treated like a quirky character trait. In True Detective alcoholism is taken seriously.
>>63012573
she takes the BBC several times and my nigga Kilgrave is constantly killing people in gruesome ways
>>63014904
Well she's supposed to be superhuman. As far as mental addiction goes she's fucked like any other person, but since she "heals fast" there's probably no sever damage to her physically - which would include brain damage.
Also Tony Stark.
My main problems were:
1.the amount of coincidences: Killgrave just wandering into JJ, Cage's whife and Nuke? I mean, tad too much.
2. for fuck's sake it looked like the writer wrote himself into a corner in ep9 and then just tried to dig his way out. Even Killgrave power upgrade went unnoticed. The last confrontation scene was TDKR level bad.
>>63009436
Truer words never stated.
>>63006693
It's alright but the "fight" scenes are terrible. Twilight levels of terrible. Plus I'm getting sick of the constant sex scenes watching a pale white woman stalk then ride a big black man is a huge turnoff, honestly it's kind of disgusting.
>>63009662
>Krysten Ritter is ugly
For me I had the opposite problem. Jessica Jones along with Amanda Waller were maybe the first female comic characters I noticed were made intentionally plain looking. They were intended to be women you wouldn't give a second glance on the street.
Then they cast conventionally attractive and skinny actors Angela Bassett and Cynthia Addai-Robinson to play The Wall.
And now Krysten Ritter who is a freaking model I have had a thing for since Veronica Mars is Jessica Jones.
>>63016255
Waller was made skinny and hot in New 52. As for Jessica Jones, she was drawn pretty damn hot in New Avengers and when they showed her in her old costume.
>>63016310
>Waller was made skinny and hot in New 52.
The first rule of comic club is that we do not talk about the New 52.
>As for Jessica Jones, she was drawn pretty damn hot in New Avengers and when they showed her in her old costume.
Eh, quite plain by comic standards and her Jewel costume was hideous.
>"At home that night, Jessica tried to pleasure herself to her pictures of the Human Torch, but was interrupted by her younger brother Phillip. The family later went on a trip to Disney World with tickets given to them by her father's boss, Tony Stark."
It's alright. Has a strong start and the plot has a better sense of direction than Daredevil did. But about 2/3 through it starts getting overbearing with the rape/abusive relationship metaphor.
>>63016440
Well at least she's into white guys too...oh wait.
Somewhere some SJW is laughing at all our white male tears in this thread.
>>63006693
>let me post this hourly
fuck off
>she used to do heroine
>now she's a super heroine
pottery
>>63008747
Why lie?
Black neighbour is a druggy who sells pics of her for months even though not mind controlled.
The missing girls white dad from e1 is nice and tries to fix her door and shit because he is worried about a woman he has never previously met.
If you don't like it, fine. But don't lie and pretend it has agendas it does not, you just sound like a prick.
It really starts to drag after the half-way point. Once Kilgrave is established, there isn't really a lot of plot progression.
Just "I'm gonna kill Kilgrave cause he's bad and shit" over and over again.
Also, I know it's unintentional but Jessica Jones is so unlikable. I get the trope that she is but even her super strength is boring as fuck
>>63008747
What?
White male feels so ashamed for hurting someone under mind control (despite it not being his fault) he visits the victim and makes sure she feels safe before gifting her a gun to protect herself. (What kind of faggy self respecting liberal would agree with that?)
And Nuke was not evil. He was under the influence of drugs he was forced to take. If Malcolm can get away with that, why cant Nuke?
Black male fucks around, get angry and hits and verbally his white female lover (for something that's not her fault) then leaves her.
>>63016649
I'm not really that upset about it. If someone starts a shitty petition or something I'll laugh as hard as them. Doesn't mean I agree with Melissa Rosenberg's politics when they crop up here. Do I have to uncritically accept every piece of media I watch without complaint? I think the show is alright as a piece of entertainment, for the record, and I wouldn't want to censor it.
>>63016895
You're really reaching. The white dad is nothing more than a victim, not an active agent of goodness, and Malcolm is very quickly redeemed from his trauma at the hands of the white villain.
This makes me think of people who pretend that the conservative Catholic undertones of LotR don't exist. Why deny it? I like conservative Catholic undertones. If you don't like the ideological trappings of a text, it's not wrong to criticise them, which I'm perfectly willing to accept wrt to feminists and progressives as well. I hate this pussyfooting "Ugh, stop reading things into my media!" attitude. It makes us look wilfully ignorant.
>>63017050
>he visits the victim and makes sure she feels safe before gifting her a gun to protect herself. (What kind of faggy self respecting liberal would agree with that?)
Simpson/Nuke is more likeable than the other white male characters but he's still very #MasculinitySoFragile, hence his concealing things from Trish and constant attempts to reassert his dominance even before he reconnects with his old team.
When Luke finds out that JJ killed his wife, he does get mad, but the show seems to broadly treat his behaviour as a valid response to trauma; Jessica, who is usually so Strong Independent Awesome Badass Woman Protag, accepts his anger without complaint, and since we see it from her perspective, we accept that. Compare that to when Daddy Kilgrave comments that Nuke's red pills can grow his strength and stamina, but not his conscience. Instead of trauma, his angry violence is attributed to his personality.
>>63006693
>shills not even trying to conceal it anymore
>>63017414
>Marvel Property
>Thinks they need paid shills
>>63008432
I spent several episodes trying to figure out where I saw him, and then it turned out I was thinking of Gary Daniels.
>>63006693
it's not, she's an unlikeable cunt with no redeeming qualities.
How is this show getting so much praise? Are critics really that high on the "strong female character" buzz?
The show is fine. I enjoyed it enough to watch until the end, and would recommend it to anyone interested. But man, did it drag. The pacing was glacial. The side characters were boring more often than not. The action scenes (and in general superpower-related) were poor, with one exception. Also, the show was entirely humorless, which for a Marvel project is baffling. I know many of you hate "muh quips", but jesus, the show is absurdly and unnecessarily dark for capeshit.
>>63019320
The critics are high on Marvel Buzz. I also suspect because it's Marvel, they expected something more tame and safe and were pleasantly surprised.
I predict Marvel will be an economic bubble.
I had the same problem with Daredevil.
Halfway through the season they neuter any greyness in the villains and go full 'WE EVIL NOW! BURN DOWN HELLS KITCHEN! I'M A FUCKING RAPIST!" and from there it just turns to shit.
Overall bothare still better than expected, and better than most commercial comic book tv shows, but still average to sub par and i won't give a second season the time of day unless i hear from enough people that they're much, much better.
Thoughts:
- Jessica is an annoying teenager type, and like any annoying teenager there were more moments of aggravation with her character than anything else.
- The fight scenes were horrible, it looked fake as fuck and awkward when they showed super strength or something.
- The villain was fun, the episode where he and Jessica "played house" was the best one.
- They were really pushing a progressive worldview, I'm not sure how I felt about it, other than it seemed awkward.
- The climax didn't work.
>>63019320
>How is this show getting so much praise?
Maybe back lash over what else is on tv right now. Plus people are all over Netflix's nuts going up against network tv and cable over all. Ehh and it's Marvel, everyone loves Marvel.
I mean the show is pretty good but does have a chunk of issues too.
