This is easily the best show airing on television right now. Will /tv/ be saved and propelled into a new LOST-esqe era? Anyone who isn't watching this needs to quit watching pleb-tier shows and catch up right now.
>>62980998
This show will get cancelled because it doesn't have zombies. If both The Leftovers and Hannibal get cancelled in the same year I'm cancelling my TV and only watching porn and cat videos
>>62980998
I just finished the latest episode.
THIS FUCKING SHOW.
THIS.
FUCKING.
SHOW.
Gods be good, can you imagine how wicked awesome Lost would have been if they'd had their shit together and wrote this good? The flash-sideways written like last night's episode? Fucking hells...
Between this and Manhattan and Fargo...it's been a helluva fall TV season.
Post an intriguing screencap
kevin
fucking
garvey
i really love this show. big chills during patti's jeopardy monologue.
unburden yourself by throwing children into a well
you must first know yourself and adorn yourself accordingly
I hope they don't catch that bird
The white Merc was the same one the 3 girls went missing in.
"Mary down the hall" - either Mary is dead in the next Ep or just in the afterlife because she's brain-dead.
>>62981416
>Manhattan
>>62980998
Why is it to so good?
Did anyone else notice the guy congratulate Kevin after patting down his crotch.
>>62982041
because:
everybody's wondering what and where they all came from
everybody's worrying where they're gonna go when the whole thing's done
but no one knows for certain and so it's all the same to me
I think I'll just let the mystery be
Some say once gone you're gone forever
And some say you're gonna come back
Some say you rest in the arms of the Savior
If in sinful ways you lack
Some say that they're comin' back in a garden
Bunch of carrots and little sweet peas
I think I'll just let the mystery be
Everybody's wondering what and where
They all came from
Everybody's worrying about where they're gonna go
When the whole thing's done
But no one knows for certain and so it's all the same to me
I think I'll just let the mystery be
>>62982184
I did. I thought it was funny
Does this show feature infidelity?
>>62981073
>doesn't have zombies.he literally just rose from the dead
>>62982184
he found his magnum condom he uses for his monster dong
from the last thread, nobody got a chance cause the thread autosaged
>do your worst
let's see if /tv/ is still as unfunny as it was during /lost/
>>62980998
I'm in love with this show. "International Assassin" was amazing, I'm re watching it tonight
feelio when you don't have a single friend that watches this show and it only gets two or three threads on /tv/ per episode
reason why magical nigger shot himself instead of drinking the poison was cause it was less painful
>>62982403
>>62982685
he was so thirsty
>comparing this to lost
>implying lost wasn't trash
>>62980998
This is brilliant and I am now almost certain they'll cancel it, like everything else wonderful, even though it does hit pretty hard, the numbers aren't there. Here's hoping though...
If it does cancel though, I wonder if they'd pursue netflix or some such.
>>62983043
That's exactly what's being implied.
>>62983043
I loved lost dearly and this totally shits on it in leaps and bounds.
>Damon Lindelof
One of the biggest hacks in the business. This show is garbage.
>>62983101
HBO already ordered 3 full seasons so we get at least 1 more
>>62983222
Seriously? I feel so much better now.
So why do people who drink the water want to kill the bird?
>>62981416
>Between this and Manhattan and Fargo
>The Affair is missing
noes!
>>62983445
Seriously? "Drinking the water (kool-aid)" is widely known to be falling for something devious and possibly false, likewise it could be awoken to a certain truth. Virgil, like the others, gave in and thus accepted their new reality, "death" or whatever that other side is meant to be.
>>62983222
I can't find anything on that at all.
>>62983445
because fuck birds
>>62982603
>>62982744
>>62982910
/tv/ confirmed for still not funny
>>62983510
I know that, I wanted to know why they kill the bird.
I thought it was because the bird is killed by the Negress in attempts to resurrect it, the people who want to kill the bird have drunk the water, and thus have accepted their fate and want to kill the bird because it is a symbol of rebirth. But it sounded a bit iffy so I wanted someone elses opinion
>The Leftovers: Damon Lindelof Explains Sunday's Bats$%t Crazy Hour
http://tvline.com/2015/11/22/the-leftovers-kevin-purgatory-season-2-damon-lindelof/
>>62983572
That sounds fairly accurate, my thinking on it is the denial of other possibilities "wishes"? That opens up a whole other aspect of where/when/what this hotel is, which I'm not certain is very relevant as of yet.
Who is he /tv/? what did he say to Kevin?
I can't believe people are still falling for the Lindelof ruse.
>>62984025
Cuse*
>>62980998
Fargo is ten times better.
>>62981946
What's your opinion of Manhattan? I find it almost as riveting as The Leftovers. the episode where they went all psyop on Frank was my favorite episode of TV this fall until last night's episode of The Leftovers. Plus Manhattan has based Harry Lloyd.
>Manhattan never has a thread so it must suck.
Get over yourself.
>>62984354
this is the leftovers thread
not the walking dead
>>62984007
>Who is he
The Australian who rose from the dead that was on the news.
>what did he say to Kevin?
Only thing I can think of that would help resolve the current plot is the location of the girls.
>>62984007
That the girls are dead.
>>62984730
daaamn good catch man
but wait
if the australian had risen from the grave
then why was he in purgatory?
>>62984893
His soul is trapped there but his body still lives on earth
what a based fucking show
>>62984730
>The Australian who rose from the dead that was on the news.
I missed that part, how's that?
>>62980998
Not while The Knick is airing it's not.
>>62984961
It was like five episodes ago, just a news report on tv in the background. The fact they specifically referred to it as happening in Australia and this guy has an Australian accent can't be a coincidence though.
>>62980998
b..but the AV Club hates it.
>>62985114
the commenters, maybe. Sonia SJWaya left AV after season 1 and the new reviewer guy treats S2 pretty good.
also post yfw Patti will still show up, because they producers have a fetish for Ann Dowd
>>62985194
>Outta left field, Ann Dowd getting fingerblasted by the lawnmower man
>mfw the ratings are so bad that HBO is sending shills to /tv/
This season has been incredibly consistent 9/10 since episode 3
6>8=5>7>3>4>1=2
>>62985273
>ratings indicating how good a tv series is, in the era where 10 million people drool weekly over zombie stupid cliffhangers
yeah no, if something is good, I don't give a shit if it reaches out to rednecks or not
ironically, despite this entire purgatory Lost-tier bullshit episode, the one I still have issues it the most this season is Matt's. I just can't get over how hamfisted of a faith parable that episode was.
If Kevin can return to the real world, does that mean Patti could too?
>>62985568
whether gives Lindelof a boner
>>62984007
was this the guy from Birdman that was in the streets yelling lines from Macbeth?
>>62985391
>>62985568
guys it's not supposed to be definitive that this episode actually wasn't kevins hallucinatory fever dream brought on by virgils potion or if it was purgatory
>>62985674
if kevin just hallucinated, why the fuck did Michael bury him
>>62985655
just looked it up, yep it was the same guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTSudPcM8cs
>>62985194
After loathing Patti in the first season and being sceptical about her appearing as a ghost/projection of Kevin's I came to like her presence and actually felt pretty bad for her after this episode.
Those scenes at the well were powerful.
>>62982304
>Not knowing the difference
>>62985757
i loathed the GR in S1 (Meg and Laurie as such), but not Patti in particular. she was just as strong back then when she started talking.
Getting real tired of Leftover shills.
Still
>Damon Lindelof
Cannot get over that.
>>62983510
The water is Lethe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethe
>>62985825
>le shill meme
com'on, dude, we're 25 people here at best. you don't like, nothing stops you from going to fuck yourself.
>>62985722
part of the ritual? rising from the grave after a strong hallucinogenic trip would be intense. why would michael be so surprised is what you should have asked.
but maybe he wasn't completely "in" on the whole thing.
>>62985722
because his heart stopped, or slowed down
>>62985674
In the Aeneid, Virgil writes that it is only when the dead have had their memories erased by the Lethe that they may be reincarnated.
>>62985722
Michael ain't no fucking doctor. Virgil told him he'd die, he sees dead guy, buries him.
Louis man.
>people actually falling for lindelof's shit, again.
>>62985887
>grave
>not dead
pick one
>>62985891
Michael having no idea what's going on, after all the time spent with Virgil, is either not plausible or a shit plot device
The fact that they will never explain the actual disappearance makes this series just bad. It feels like Lindelof is dangling a carrot in front of your head. This will be Lost all over again.
>>62985949
kevin didn't reincarnate, assuming his heart stopped he resurrected. but i am curious why you wrote that.
>>62985951
>Virgil complicated things by telling both Kevin and Michael that the drink is poison and death is required for the ritual because...
...oh wait, I forgot. former lost guy. yeah you can't have a good plot with this.
>>62986011
no it's not. the departures don't matter. at all.
>>62986011
>them explaining the departures
the reaction would "omg asspulls. fantasy. lost shit tier."
>them not explaining the departures
omg carrot dangling. bad storyline. lost shit tier
sorry nothing can satisfy you, care for some homemade go fuck yourself poison?
>>62986033
People who drink the water lose their memories of their former lives and can go on to be reincarnated.
just want to say the score in this episode was great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWk-SelJroA
judging by the 2x09 promo, how fucked is Kevin, now that John knows his fingerprints are on the car and is no-fucks-given mood to hear fairytale departure and purgatory stories
>>62986157
i went once to see that opera. died of boredom. Verdi is like the Tyler Perry of classical music.
also the song was repeated too much the same way and with the same cut-off shtick. just my opinion, of course.
>>62986060
>the event that makes all the mystery elements in the show work and is mentioned every few seconds of the show doesn't matter
>>62986104
Or there would be
>don't setup your story in a way that disappoints viewers either way
or
>set up the story in a way so the departure actually gets explained and not ass pulled
Yes, I know it's based on a shitty book. I'm especially asspained because the perfomances are really good and besides the retarded premise, it's well made.
>>62986248
the departure event only triggers the drama through which everyone is going and that you, as a viewer, are watching. there is not Lostian mystery aspect to it. the lack of answers to that event border on human faith or lack thereof in there being any answers. it's not SF mystery asspulling, it's religious parable making.
Literally filler episode.
How the fuck do you support this fanwank? This is LOST-tier hallucination bullshit in a show that always felt grounded, even in it's "spiritual" elements.
>black church boy who never says bad words
>sees kevin rise from the grave
>holy shit xDDD
>>62986391
Only good part of the ep familial poster.
>>62986391
guess the detail of him insisting on not cussing inside the house of his God went past your head
well our funposters have arrived i see
it was nice but i'll be leaving, see you guys next week
>>62986381
I agree it's difficult to find any grounded excuse r reasoning in such a development, nonetheless the execution was not as bad as I expected.
>>62986473
>anyone who criticizes leftovers is funposting
You're morons for talking about this show at all, as you're just setting yourself up for disappointment later when lindelof either goes full retard or simply ends the show without explaining anything.
>“The Leftovers is a show based on a supernatural premise and although we want the storytelling to feel as grounded as possible, the presence of Patti after her death flirts directly with that premise. We knew when we designed the season that Kevin’s main thrust this year would be ridding himself of Patti and this episode was the culmination of that story. There are those who don’t like it when the show gets “too weird” and they are likely to assume this episode was all in Kevin’s head… an ongoing fever dream catalyzed by whatever Virgil made him drink… A further manifestation of the psychosis Laurie diagnosed.
>There are also those who will assign a supernatural interpretation to this episode. “Goddammit, here goes Lindelof with the Purgatory nonsense again… WE GET IT, ASSHOLE!”
>It is not our place to explain ourselves nor clarify this debate. The show has to speak for itself on this front. I make no apologies for this as Tom, the writers and I have always been upfront about the storytelling on this show being purposefully ambiguous… The Leftovers isn’t about answers, it’s about the frustration of not getting them and the emotional state that drives our characters to. Like throwing rocks through the windows of people we feel sympathy for or drinking poison.
>All that said, our intention here was simple. To try to do something different. And unexpected. And above all, emotional.
>And regardless of what people think of the writing and/or storytelling, I hope they can appreciate the incredible performances from Justin and Ann who committed to this fully and fearlessly… I am proud and honored to be the beneficiary of their immense talents.
plebs triggered?
>>62986810
lindelof leaves shit purposefully ambiguous because he knows people watching will come up with more interesting shit than he ever could
>>62986810
>people may accuse us of being worthless hacks wiping our ass with stationary... but aren't our actors doing well??
masterful
>>62986702
The Leftovers is good.
This is my opinion.
I also think it is better than Game of Thrones.
I also think it is better than Doctor Who.
I enjoy the mysteries and mindfucks it gives us.
I enjoy a show that you evidently do not.
I enjoy seeing what others post about this show.
I am sorry that you feel it necessary to shit on other people.
I don't shitpost in threads about shows I don't like.
I would appreciate you doing the same.
With that being said...THAT FUCKING BIRD!
>>62986810
who in god's name writes like this?
>>62986329
Shitty plot devices are exactly that, it doesn't matter if it's religion or techno babble. You could do this easily without any of the disappearance bullshit, with any worldly cause for the loss of loved ones, but then people would hate the show, based on the fact that most of the characters are just constantly busy hurting without any cause by a higher power. And you would have to put in effort to make the hallucinations work, because people talking to themselves aren't really that entertaining.
the bird was vergil's soul still in between worlds.
who threw the rock at the black familys window?
why did black woman throw it at noras window?
>>62980998
dirty little mouth slut
>>62987060
are you serious with those questions? both have obvious answers in the "Lens" episode.
>>62987092
i dont want to rewatch the episode, could you remind me?
>>62987141
nora threw the rock at Murphys
erika threw the rock back at nora's home after figuring it out it was her
also that episode was very good k
>>62981416
>>62980998
Fuuuuck, I kept trudging through the show, trusting in /tv/ that it would be worth it. 2 seasons of mediocre to decent, I thought it would never reach greatness. But then this episode came and it was like I was watching LOST again. Will this be a one off? Will the mystery be minimal again in the future? Maybe, but in this moment I am indeed euphoric.
>>62987189
thats what i thought, but why did they do that specifically? I know they talked and disagreed and something about birds...
>>62987270
asshole fireman blocked job from being readmitted.
>>62987270
nora may have done it in frustration at John banishing Matt out of Jardin
erika did it for the reasons I just said.
the bird talk was a completely different matter between the two of them.
>>62987270
Nobody knows why Nora did it, because she never said why. It's probably because Murphys fucked her brother over or because Nora hates people who blame everything on rapture. Probably a mix of both
>>62987342
Bird talk also happened AFTER Nora threw the rock
>>62986869
No. Because this isn't a fantasy show. This is a drama. About what it means to be human. Not some dumb bullshit.
>>62987398
>Bird talk also happened AFTER Nora threw the rock
so? what does bird talk have to do with rock throwing? that's my whole point.
>>62987398
but the Murphys don't blame anything on the rapture. in fact they're intent (or at least John is) to distance themselves from any departure or miracle related reasoning. it is only Erika's belief in this that is finally shaken, once her daughter seemingly disappears herself, in context with what she (Erika) did with the bird at the same time.
>>62985995
>Michael having no idea what's going on, after all the time spent with Virgil, is either not plausible or a shit plot device
He saw a fucking dead man climb out of a hole he put him in. How would you react?
welp.
here's hoping Fargo can still wisely land its finale descent. it'd be a fucking shame not to.
>>62987527
did you pick up the conversation from the very end? wtf.
I'm talking about him being oblivious to Virgil's plans or the outer-world dimension of what's to happen to Kevin.
Instead, he just picked up Kevin's body and buried him like 'yep, this guy's dead and grandpa blew his brains out, better clean up"
>>62987581
are you dumb?
When Kevin shows up to virgil's Michael is leaving and it looks like hes been crying.
This is bc Virgil has told him what's going to happen, aka he's gonna die and probably won't be coming back.
When Kevin wakes up Michael's got like a chair and food set up like he's been waiting and watching. He was probably supposed to bury him and then wait for a pre-determined amount of time. It was probably more likely than not that Kevin wouldn't come back so it would be easiest to just bury him in advance. Or burying him may be part of the ritual who knows, but Michael obviously knew what was going on.
based off of /tv/'s favorable reviews, I decided to check out the pilot.
So many questions. I guess the answer is to keep watching so they're answered.
My big question is, why are major religions (i.e Christianity) on the "decline"? If the Christians were right, why aren't people following them and flocking towards NRMs?
>>62983445
>>62983510
>>62983532
>>62983572
>>62983706
>The bird
Has Kevin seen and heard about the bird and its rebirth philosophy thing? Because if not, isn't that kind of proof that this isn't just happening in his mind, but it's actually something more?
Honestly I wish Lindelof would just get rid of Perotta at this point since he's the one who seems to keep the show in the "is it real or not" territory, effectively preventing the show to go all in with the mystery and take it to another level like Lost.
>>62987737
again, you're not picking up the conversation from the start. someone postulated that Kevin was just hallucinated. I said well then why the fuck did Michael bury Kevin, then. Then replies rained on saying "oh no Michael doesn't know shit". To which I asked HOW.
>>62987810
>So many questions. I guess the answer is to keep watching so they're answered.
they'll never answer "big" questions, it's been said a 100 times. First season is also rough as fuck(outside of couple stand-alone episodes), s2 is much better
>If the Christians were right
They weren't, it wasn't a Christian rapture, there's no pattern to people who disappeared, pretty sure Dr.Who talks about in the very first episode
>>62987266
>>62987826
>I literally want this show to go in Lost mode
Ugh.
I'm so glad this conversation doesn't happen face to face so I could tell you two to fuck off.
Lost mysteries were always in "yeah I'm not gonna reveal shit" mode. I would never want to watch that ever again on TV.
>>62986011
>>62986060
>>62986248
>>62986104
>>62986248
have they explicitly said they will never reveal what caused the departure? Because in that case I just might stop watching
>>62987899
>Lost mysteries were always in "yeah I'm not gonna reveal shit" mode
confirmed for not watching Lost, things got revealed all the time and were replaced by new mysteries
>>62982685
The shot to the head is kind of final too.
>>62987854
fair enough, yeah I doubt it was just a hallucination
>>62987826
Pretty sure after last night its all confirmed to be supernatural as fuck.
>>62987810
If Jesus literally came down from the sky, there would still be atheist skeptics.
>>62987919
Of course they won't. It'd be as stupid as "revealing" what happens after you die. It's all about how humans process it. Literally NO answer would be satisfying.
>>62987950
fuck off, I endured all six seasons. the show was totally epileptic on piling up mysteries and having the characters talk in mystery-tongues and unexplained shit happening with little resolve.
save me of your pretentious lostfaggotry defending.
>>62982603
Epic, simply epic memeing, good sir :^) *tips fedora*
>>62988120
>getting triggered by bane memes
>>62986168
the actresses who play the missing girls are credited in the final ep
i would say he will be just fine
>yfw the departure was caused by jack removing the cork on the islandL O S T
>>62987877
Lenses though...
It has a 7.7 on imdb. That's low for a TV series. I don't think I'll be watching it.
Anyone who says this show is bad is either a legitimate retard or shitposting.
The shilling is real in this thread.
>>62988700
Who the fuck goes into a thread about a show they don't watch then calls the other people who do shills?
I get that you're just shitposting but do you realize what a fool you are?
>>62988729
hey kid i get that ur mad but that dont mean u get to act like a tool too my man ok?
>>62988065
this
>>62988625
That's probably because of Season 1, it wasn't something you might say was outstanding and should have won awards, but it did set up a lot of the themes that the show will continue to expand upon and explain. Season 2 has been GOAT so have a look at the ratings. Last episode was 9.7
>>62988729
I watch it. The bullshit people talk about in these threads is beyond retarded. Like checking off talking points of exactly what lindelof wants people wondering.
When everyone, E V E R Y O N E, at this point, should know damned good and well lindelof is going to leave everything ambiguous because he knows he can't write anything remotely compelling.
>>62989269
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean? We're talking about plot points and that triggers you? Do you even fucking watch Film & TV? It's hilarious that you think every other writer and director "unintentionally" creates something to hook audiences. At this point you may as well say that it's retarded Walter White secretly cooked meth and hid it from his family, and Michael Corleone shot a police chief in the face because they're "talking points"
>>62989398
>lindelof
>plot
Its random bullshit. Hes not going anywhere with anything.
>>62981803
Kevin had to destroy his pity to be free. It's from Dante's Inferno, right down to the guide named Virgil. Basically, to feel sorry for someone is to question god. Your pity for others suggests you think you know better than God. It's a really interesting concept.
>>62989269
>Watches show
>Hates show
I think you just hate yourself desu senpai
Things you like make you resent those things
Because you hate yourself and hate things that make you happy
You should kill yourself
>>62985077
Specific episode please senpai?
>>62987919
The book never explains it.
>>62987919
They have said they will not answer the question of what the departure was. If that is a deal breaker for you, you will not be missed and are a fucking dumbass. Consider suicide before you breed.
>>62983185
Don't shoot the messenger. The show isn't garbage. And wether that's intent or accident, it's stayed fantastic for two years in a row. So shut your fuckinf face. You're wrong.
>>62986168
Dude on bridge told KG where the bitches are you fucking dunce
>>62980998
>Damon Lindelof
That's all you need to know. Fuck this shit.
>>62984386
Never heard of it.
>>62987266
>mediocre to decent
>implying season 1 matt-centric episode and holy Wayne weren't great
>>62987441
Too stupid to watch this show
Stop watching this show. The Muppets airs Tuesdays at 9 on ABC. If you make it through all the episodes without asking anyone anything, move on to Law and Order. Under no circumstances do you resume watching the Leftovers.
>>62984961
Edwin on the pillar had Michael mail him a letter in episode one of this year. It's gonna be a great ending, yo. I can feel it.
Between this and the orchestral music playing. Lynch crossed with a bit of Kubrick?
Character dead... maybe?
Wakes up in hotel with different name.
Sopranos, fags. Season 6. Eat shit.
>>62984386
not the guy you replied to, but Manhattan is seriously lacking this season. the show is missing something. the atomic bomb seems to have taken a backseat and personal drama started dominating the show. seriously, what human in the entire planet would put a good fuck as a priority before developing the weapon that can end the war. i doubt anyone would and i seriously doubt that fucking Oppenheimer would be an exception (same thing with the british fuck that wanted to leave the manhattan project because he got his feelings hurt by a girl). also, i could see that psyop coming a mile away.
>>62987266
>Euphoric about a good episode of a "mediocre to decent" show
>2 seasons of mediocre
This is LOST apologia all over again. Goes nowhere for 6 seasons but eh, fuck it, it's fun while it lasts. RIGHT GUISE?
>>62989667
>matt wins
Hes gonna get mugged
>matt gets mugged, but fights off mugger
>matt stops to help smokers
hes gonna get attacked and put in the hospital
>matt gets attacked and put in the hospital
>matt wakes up
its going to be days later
>matt gets to the bank "just in time."
>its days later
The smokers bought the church
>matt drives to the church
>the GR is painting the church.
That shit was as by the fucking numbers as something could possibly be. How little does one have to see to be surprised by any turn in that episode?
>>62981870
I like that idea. Like Mary's mind/soul have gone to this afterlife (reality?) but her body is still stuck in the real world.
>>62989510
Just done some googling, I think it may be episode 3
>>62988664
>this
>>62985655
Wow, good catch
>>62985795
I love them so much I use Guilty Remnant as a username... We should discuss this group and our feelings.
>>62989781
Thanks senpai
>>62982685
He never planned on coming back, probably felt his purpose was to guide Kevin and "atone".
>>62989763
Stick to Game of Thrones, kid, it's more on your level.
>>62989766
20/20 hindsight, impressive shitposter
Other greatest hits from Faggy McFaggerton:
Clearly TD Season 1 wouldn't go full on Cthulu, anyone could've seen it coming
Obv Sopranos will just cut to black, prob with "Don't Stop Believing" playing, any non-plebe could see this.
You're bad, and you should feel bad.
>>62989884
>hindsight
that was as I was watching the episode for the first time.
>>62986011
Is God real? is a question with no real answer. It is unanswerable. Just like "where did the departed go?"
We live with no clear answers and this show demonstrates extremes of our everyday lives. As Patti said, "on October 14th, it became abundantly clear that you can lose anyone at any time"
But that is always true. Before during and after the 14th. It's a show about prescribed meaning and it handles it deftly.
>>62989903
Yet only posted a scant 18 months later! Truly masterful. You should play the lottery, you numb fucking cunt.
>>62989884
Go look at the livethread for that episode in the archive. People were calling everything minutes before it happened.
>>62989929
Are you really pretending the "oh god I'm just in time, oh no its days later" thing has never happened before?
But the last episode was the worst ever and the second season, in general, is much worse than the first.
Lindelof turned it into another disastrous season of Lost. That's why critics are eating it up now. It's more of the same le addictive binge watch trash.
Lindelof really is just an awful writer. Everything he touches is dogshit.
>>62989930
Obviously he was gonna get mugged. I was surprised when he fought back and won. When he did get knocked out I figured he'd be late getting there.
It was less about those two cliche plot elements and more about how much more this episode made me love Matt. Something this season has been more iffy on.
Regardless last night was god damn amazing
Remember that at the very start of the episode the camera/direction was lingering on that water the fat dork was examining at the small lake when the girls were teasing him.
He was testing the water and later we found he was selling it and black dad beat him up.
Anyway black dad's daughter filled a bottle at that little lake and brought it home with her and the direction deliberately showed everyone drinking from it when they were preparing food (can't confirm that they all drank it, maybe just the daughter did).
Later on the daughter disappears with her friends, who presumably drank from the bottle too.
Now in the "afterlife" there's a concept that people who drink the water there forget their former lives.
It's interesting to note that the water was pointed out in that first episode.
>>62989984
>Last episode was the worst ever
wew lad
gr8 b8
>>62989926
>Is God real? is a question with no real answer.
The only reason its a question is because people have been insisting god or gods exist for thousands of years.
>on October 14th, it became abundantly clear that you can lose anyone at any time
Which was bullshit, as that was the case before as well. The difference is the departening only happened once and gave no indication it would happen again.
>>62989930
In a word: no. I will do no searching, no googling, no looking. You're a dipshit who comes to a thread to spew how predictable the show is. Why would I take actions you suggest I take? In the hopes that I, too, can become such a miserable prick that I may one day scour the Internet for signs of people enjoying something I myself claim not to enjoy and tell them how predictable it is and that I, I, MYSELF, GLORIOUS GENIUS ME predicted these things so that MAYBE anonymous strangers will validate my sad life? How fucking sad is that? Again: you are bad. You should feel bad. Your life is a sad thing.
>>62986329
Exactly. If the show was about the geography club or the azriel doctors, we'd be heading for answers... But it isn't. More interesting is that there IS that Lost kinda show going on in the background... I love that there are congressional hearings about the departures and people making up entire carousels disappearing. It's not relevant to our story, like the answer to where they went isn't relevant to our story, It's just great workd-building.
>>62980998
I hope not. Did you already forget how much of a joke LOST became?
>>62989884
>Clearly TD Season 1 wouldn't go full on Cthulu, anyone could've seen it coming
You clearly weren't there when TD s1 aired, because the few faggots hyping the Cthulu were laughed at from a huge majority.
>>62989990
>its cliche but I still like it
So did you not realize hes a walking talking vegetable-raping bibilcal Job until he directly stated as much in season 2?
>>62983572
Maybe this is useful, maybe not. From The Venerable Bede:
"The sparrow, flying in at one door and immediately out at another, whilst he is within, is safe from the wintry tempest, but after a short space of fair weather, he immediately vanishes out of your sight, passing from winter to winter again. So this life of man appears for a
little while, but of what is to follow or what went before we know nothing at all."
>>62990037
>i refuse to exert effort to prove myself wrong
:^)
>>62990067
>implying that implying someone hasn't been on 4chan as long as you is a sick burn
You've been a forever alone neckbeard for years, you sure roasted me faggot
>>62990054
>more interesting is that there IS that Lost kinda show going on in the background
Its a fucking abram's "lensflare." As in he wants to give the impression interesting stuff is happening off screen, but lacks the imagination or creative spark to actually show something interesting.
It's the shit lindelof has been doing his entire career, and plebs like you keep going out of your way to fall for it.
>>62989872
Yeah he clearly doesn't get LOST like we do. I mean, so what if we like the taste of asshole, right?
>>62990080
desu, who isn't raping someone or hurting someone in the show.
>>62990111
I can supply no proof of my claims and demand others do my heavy lifting because I am wrong and talking out my ass
>>62990086
That's pretty accurate actually.
It is LOST.
In the book they never explain what happened to the people.
They leave major plots out and fill it with drama shit.
I started to watch it. but feel out after finding that the main reason I got interested in the show was never explained.
Like how the fuck are you not going to tell us? Just trash.
>>62990189
just let the mystery be desu senpai
>>62990189
That's not the point. Life must be pretty hard for you.
>>62990142
Have you been watching this show at all? Which parts did your autism translate to "mystery because something is not interesting"
>>62980998
who is this semen demon?
>>62990124
Or my point was, that your argument using TD was shit, because pretty much everyone but a few faggots waved off it going Cthulu. Also if you don't actually like this board, because everyone who's been here longer than you is obviously a no life neckbeard, I suggest you leave.
>>62990323
>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Who is this semen demon?
>>62990315
Her name is Patti and she was pretty pissed off that her husband Neil wouldn't take a shit on her chest, they end up in Limbo together where they presumably get up to some kinky shit in the hotel room
>>62982202
I actually really like the new theme
>>62990323
>defending /tv/'s honor
>>62990390
No Patty didn't like the shitting. Neil liked getting shit on.
>>62989984
I am a firm believer that s1 was GOAT and s2 has just been good. People the dislike s1 but really love s2 are literally the exact people who caused my intro to become a yodeling folk hipster chick. Fuck those people. You turned a show about inner trauma into a show about twists and I wish you were dead.
>>62982202
Probably the only intro I sometimes don't skip. By the way, it's from the same people who make the True Detective intros
>>62990323
So you liked the Sopranos one then and that's why you're being a little whiny cunt? Thanks kid. Don't worry about it, I'm sure you have good qualities somewhere deep down inside. Keep coming back, you too can stop shit posting one day. Happy to be your mentor.
>>62990398
Ditto, I love the shift
>>62990451
Old one was boss (from same company that does GoT intro)
New one sucks ass
>>62990398
Misread this as meme
Killing me /tv/
>>62990438
This guy gets it
Just let me see 'em hurt, goddamn.
>>62990189
It's designed to piss off people like you and keep them from watching. And thank God. You're unwillingness to watch a show with an unanswered question in it is actually so fucking telling about the misery that is your life. I couls never explain it, but I am so blessed to not see the world like you do.
>>62990323
>literally and unironocally doing the thing he was making fun of you for in the first place
>being this void of self awareness
>>62990438
>Implying there are most "twists" in S2 than S1
>Millions of people suddenly dissapear
>Weird cult who smoke, why?
>Weird cult who don't talk, why?
>Weird cult buying churches and recruiting, why?
>Wayne
>Crazy dogs
>Crazy dog killing guy
>Gramps seeing dead people
>Sleep walking (is it even sleep walking?)
>>62990189
You probably watched Inside Llewyn Davis and screamed WHY ISN'T HE A THRIVING MUSICIAN MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>62990573
All of those but one were explained unless you are a mouth breathing retard
Spoiler: you're a mouth breathing retard
>>62990288
Oh I got you it's a lets take normal people and put them in an extraordinary situation cliche.
It's bullshit just like LOST. They run you around introducing characters that do fuck all to the story other than to have pointless arcs and keeping you watching this garbage.
I instantly stop caring about a story so lazy as to not fully conceptualize it's world.
It's a lack finality that makes these stories so unrealistic.
The end to everyone's story is.... death. To deny that destroys any connection to the real world and it's audience.
>THEY VANISHED WITHOUT A TRACE...... and we never found out why.. WINK!
Cheap just truly cheap.
>>62990559
>lindelof is genus he make so that he dundn't want ppls to watch
The lost/lindelof/gilligan formula is to draw people in with a hook, then pretend the hook doesn't matter because expanding upon the hook would be more expensive than having two characters sit around and talk about tha univarse and staff
>>62990625
No that's not it at all. No wonder you can't dig the show, you're clearly a moron incapable of grasping intellectual concepts.
Maybe just stick to Modern Family?
>>62990296
>accuse person of autism
>post complete and total gibberish
... uh, care to try again?
>>62990625
If you don't enjoy the philosophical implications and the consistent misery most of the characters face, that's really not my fault. People have different reasons for recreational television consumption. Sorry it's not happier or zombies or dragons or some shit.
the cliffhanger at the end of this season will be Kevin waking up on the Island.
>>62990678
>if u dun liek leftovers u mus like twd
>i like leftovers so im smar
I like how you ignore valid criticism just strawman.
>>62990438
this.
I'm reading through this thread and seeing so many people shitting on s1 like it was mediocre at best
s1 was fucking brutal and fantastic
s2 has been just as good but it's definitely a different beast
>>62990655
That isn't the hook though. They have flatly stated they WILL NOT explain the departure. Wouldn't that be an awful hook then?
The reaction to the god awful emotional trauma of not knowing is the hook. One you can actually share with the characters SINCE NONE OF YOU KNOW. There. See that? I know you love having things spoonfed to you.
Also: Muppets, Tuesdays, 9pm, ABC. Have a feeling you'll LOVE that one.
>>62990718
"They don't spoonfeed me every answer so they haven't fully conceived their world" isn't valid criticism dipshit. It's invalid. As in "You are a mental invalid"
>>62990721
s1 was contrived as fuck because nothing (except the lindelof OC) was believable to be happening 4 years later. Furthermore it was predictable as fuck.
>>62990573
>>Implying there are most "twists" in S2 than S1
In s1, the story was completely fleshed and full. All of the twists are the result of story editing, not writing. My hopes for s2 are growing as the Aussie guy is being introduced... It bodes well for me.
>>Millions of people suddenly dissapear
Causing intense emotional trauma in at least five people you see daily.
>>Weird cult who smoke, why?
Because existience in the form of ego is only for suffering. Death is nothing to fear.
>>Weird cult who don't talk, why?
The dress in white and do not speak so that they become living reminders- of the 14th, of the fact that the old world is gone, that not all questions have answers, but mostly to become blank slates others project onto. Some call them "ghosts," some "stalkers," and nobody's wrong. The whole point is you see what you wanna see. The audience of the show and the world in the show has people who love them and would join them, like me and Meg, and people who loathed them, like earlier anon and guy screaming in Tommy's face.
>>Weird cult buying churches and recruitng, why?
Because everyone else is pretending. If you're tired of pretending, join us. No more faking it.
>>Wayne
Fraud.
>>Crazy dogs
Primal. Literally explained in pilot by twins.
>>Crazy dog killing guy
He explains himself and is definitvely a real person seen by multiple characters other than Kevin
>>Gramps seeing dead people
He and Kevin are NOT crazy but I can't decided exactly what they are just yet
>>Sleep walking (is it even sleep walking?)
Kevin is probably schizophrenic, actually.
>>62990722
>bunch of people vanishing in a rapture style incident isn't the hook of leftovers
And now we've gone full retard.
>>62990622
And because they eventually got answers they were never twists? Sorry, but you're confirmed for mouth breathing retard. Same thing is happening in season 2
>Kevin dies
>Comes back
>Literally an entire episode and previous explanations by Patti/Black Guy telling you how that happened
Are you even watching this show?
>>62990722
This, for sure.
>>62990721
I'm inclined to agree, we're in a different place now that there has been a movement from the initial trauma of the departure.
>>62990756
Its lindelof. Hes don't the exact same thing with every single project. Throw around a bunch of mysterious shit, never expand upon it, then end on a cliffhanger.
>>62990757
It was 3 years later.
You miss a lot of things, get a lot of things wrong don't you? It's ok. Enjoy TWD.
>>62990625
We do find out why, if you're paying close attention. Resent. We'll just never find out WHERE they went.
>>62990811
The first season took place across the course of an entire year.
How's GoT?
>>62990777
Yes I'm aware they were explained, that doesn't mean they were never questions to begin with. The first post argued that S2 is shit-tier because there are questions, just as there were in season 1. And that's obviously a fucking retarded thing to say.
>>62990823
The "resentment" vanishings were undermined by a pedophile sticking around.
>>62990777
Pleb here, when was it explained that Wayne was a fraud?
>>62990829
you've gone and gotten another wrong Timmy. Next episode starts the windup towards the 4th anniversary of the SD. Are you really this stupid?
>>62990757
I've heard this argument twice. No need to type it out again. Just know that you're wrong. Everybody was in perfectly reasonable stages of greif. But thank you for pretending 3 years is plenty of time to be over your family vanishing behind your back. Or that Kevin's wife leaving six months ago and asking for a divorce and his son not speaking to him isn't just as brutal for Kevin as Nora's loss was for her.
>>62990625
Jesus I hope this guy is trolling, nobody can be this autistic.
>>62990906
Never. It just left it ambiguous. Like the mystery you should just leave be.
he was afraid he was a fraud, then he "granted" crazy's wish.
>>62990906
>Wayne literally says "I have a feeling I'm a fraud"
>>62990906
It wasn't totally, and the implication of Kevin's wish, assuming it was for a family, Wayne might not have been a fraud after all. He also remembered Kevin, but that's not really indicative of anything in particular.
>>62990829
Wrong.
>>62990917
>Everybody was in perfectly reasonable stages of greif.
For a year later.
>>62990914
The GR's sorrity prank was on the 4th anniversary of the not-rapturening. The statue was unveiled on the 3rd. A tiny asian girl went from not pregnant to pregnant to giving birth to vanishing over the course of one season. Season 1 was a full year.
>>62990901
No, it's active resent. Someone had to be thinking "i wish they were gone" as the mom in the car does before her baby, as nora does before her whole family, as laurie does before the fetus, as the group of bullies did for the boy they locked in the fridge, as the old lady on the floor did while her downs syndrome kid was making her count change one at a time on the floor...
>>62987826
>>62987992
The show will eventually reveal that, there is nothing spiritual, or metaphysical about anything that's been happening. It's just what it is.
We will never know what's the deal with the departure. Things will remain ambiguous, just like life itself.
>>62990906
>>62990777
I'm not entirely sure he was a fraud. I'm guessing you say this because Laurie told Kevin that they made up the entire thing, but I believe that's only what she thought, she didn't know that's what actually happened. We even saw Wayne in the bathroom, the child left for Tom, even Meg fucked him presumably for the same reason that Wayne had a bunch of Asian women in pregnancy. When Laurie is in the house she sees the picture with the baby, perhaps a realization that the story was in fact true? I could be wrong though, have I missed a painfully obvious scene where it's explained he's just a hackfraud?
>>62991016
>no one actively wishes a pedophile was gone
uh huh. the show goes through several cases where resent could not have been the cause and shows cases where people who were resented were not disappeared.
