>"Always two there are, no more, no less. A master and an apprentice."
Why are the Sith so powerful, then? There are literally THOUSANDS of Jedii.
>>62895645
You saw how Sheev cut down like 5 Jedi at once, right? The Sith are way more powerful than the Jedi
That rule is untrue
Maul, Oppress, Ventress, Sheev and Dooku were all Sith and were alive at the same time, and that is more than 2
And at the same time Sheev was building Anakin into yet another Sith, so really the rule is "there is no rule, its just nonsense to trick the Jedi"
>>62896047
>>62895645
Jedi are just really fucking dumb
He is not saying that there are only 2 Sith. He is saying that the Master and the Apprentice are always together. They killed one so they were freaking out about the second one that had not been revealed.
>>62896047
>Oppress, Ventress
Who?
>Dooku
Dooku wasn't sith.
>And at the same time Sheev was building Anakin into yet another Sith, so really the rule is "there is no rule, George lucas is just a retard"
Well said
>>62896096
That transformed into Darth Bane's rule of two later on, which is 100% canon and complete bullshit
>>62896110
Savage Oppress was Maul's brother/apprentice
Ventress was Dooku's apprentice
Dooku was a Sith, his Sith name was Darth Tyrannus
This is all canon
>>62896047
>ventress and oppress
>sith
they were dark jedi, not sith. all sith are dark jedi, not all dark jedi are sith. you're only sith if you got darth in your name. sheev figured maul was killed.
>>62896047
Those were not sith though, Sith is a religion, if you don't follow it you are just a dark side adept, alas, a dark jedi, Maul was never a sith, Dooku is debatable, any of those other ones are straight Dark Jedi.
>>62896096
>He is not saying that there are only 2 Sith.
Yes he is, what the fuck? Sometimes I wonder if people have seen the same movie, now I wonder if people read the same sentence.
>it's a Yoda seduces the guacamole episode
>>62896140
>>62896150
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Savage_Opress/Canon
>As part of Maul's plans, Opress became a Sith Lord, but he was forced to become the apprentice—submitting to his brother, the Master—in accordance with the Rule of Two.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Asajj_Ventress/Canon
>Asajj Ventress was a Dathomirian female who, at various points throughout her life, was a Jedi Padawan, a Sith apprentice, a Nightsister, and a bounty hunter.
>>62896070
This is likely more accurate than people realize. Darth Bane said only 2. Sheev clearly didn't care about that and said fuck the rules.
>>62895645
Much like Jews, the fewer of them can accomplish more than the many,
Why? Because, again, like Jews, Sith have no morals and a driving force towards destroying anything they don't agree with.
Bravo George.
>>62896195
That is the same wiki with the breast article senpai.
>>62896273
Doesn't make the information any less canon
>>62896047
You forgot Jar Jar Binks
>>62896137
Dooku was secretly a good guy, playing both the incompetent jedi and the sith behind the scenes. He didn't know anakin was so corrupted by sheev that he would kill him
>>62896384
But for all intents and purposes he was a Sith, that is how he portrayed himself to the Jedi and to Sheev, it doesnt matter if he was merely pretending
Also if he was a good guy why didnt he out Sheev at the beginning of Episode 3?
>>62896047
>Oppress
>Ventress
literally who?
also EU doesnt count anymore
>>62896502
Neither of those are EU. Why haven't you committed yourself to Star Wars yet, anon?
Dooku didn't become an apprentice until after Mauls death. Sheev convinced him to leave the Jedi Order with some bullshit about the separatist movement and he became his apprentice. Also if you faggots ever watched the cartoon series which is canon, Sheev never acknowledged Ventress. Ventress was more of a groupie slut who desperately wanted to be apart of the Sith. She even tried really hard to impress Dooku the first time by showing off her many moves. Sheev knew that Ventress was just a tool by Dooku.
Opress only become a Sith under Darth Maul. Maul was so pissed at Sheev abandoning him, he started his own Rule of Two Sith and had him under him. In the cartoon series, Opress and Maul faces Sheev because Maul believed he could overthrow him and take the Sith for himself. So Opress was just a Sith posing dummy under Maul's scheme.
The rule of two still stands faggots.
>>62896940
>Opress and Maul faces Sheev because Maul believed he could overthrow him and take the Sith for himself.
That was great. Sheev just shows up on Mandalore and fucking wrecks them. Damn good fight scene.
>>62895645
it kinda works like Highlander
all the dark side force powers get concentrated on the two representatives
that just means every sith lord traditionally has only one apprentice, there are many sith out there though
>implying Palpatine gave a shit about the Rule of Two
It was convenient for him occasionally, but really he planned on living forever and being immortal, so the Rule of Two was going straight out the window first chance it started to become an annoyance.
>>62896137
bane came before yoda which is eu and not canon retard
>>62896070
KEK
>Sheev
It's Sidious you faggots, why is /tv/ infested with Disney/JJ cock sucking shills?
>>62896137
>Savage Oppress
>>62895645
Because Sith's kill their masters, and take on an apprentice of their own
>>62896140
what the fuck is the difference? they have red lightsabers and do ebil stuff, Star Wars a shit
>>62897938
Bane was created by George as part of his Phantom Menace notes and showed up in the Clone Wars as an illusion in Yoda's vision quest to prove his worthiness to learn how to Force Ghost
>>62898286
Please die
it is actually kinda bullshit when you think about it
the jedi are pussies just bent over ready to accept limited sith light-BBC
>>62896047
Maul was an apprentice, he died then Dooku took his place.
Oppress was Maul's zombie demon brother and sort of a secret apprentice. Ventress was Dooku's secret apprentice. Secret apprentices don't count towards Rule of 2 because it's presumed that it means the apprentice will make a move against his master soon.
And Sheev only started building Anakin up....after Dooku died dummy.
>it's an EU thread
The ONLY thing that's not EU is the 6 live action movies. Everything else is just the man-child fanboy community making shit up in their collective basement and pretending like it matters to the rest of us
Read Lords of the Sith, it explains all the deep philosophy behind the Rule. Sheev calls Vader "a good friend" the whole time. They are friends until the master has nothing left to teach, at which point he is killed. The collective hatred and knowledge of generations of Sith Lords had been pooled into Sidious, that's why he was so powerful. Perhaps because Vader was mutilated, or maybe he still had residual good in him, but Vader was never able to receive all that Sheev had to offer. That's why he wanted Luke so much.
best movie of 2013
if you think otherwise you are a pleb
>>62898890
DUDE SCIZZORING
>>62896384
>Dooku was secretly a good guy,
Wait explain, this sounds interesting like the one where Sheev was actually trying to save the galaxy by taking over the republican, creating unity and creating the death star to combat the coming threat from outside the galaxy.
>>62898607
lmao that reads like EU nonsense more please
>>62896047
Sidious and his chosen apprentice at the time were the heirs to Darth Bane's Rule of Two legacy. Savage, Ventress and Maul at the time of the Clone Wars show are not Sith in his dynasty. Maul is no longer Sidious' apprentice, Tyranus is. His previous status AS Sidious' apprentice still makes him a Sith Lord though, I'd say. The others not so much.
Savage and Ventress are more like dark acolytes than Sith. Sidious and Dooku use them but they aren't proper Sith.
Besides that Sidious didn't really give a shit about the Rule of Two if it helped him in the long run. In the Darth Plagueis book (hurr not canon EU) Plagueis knew Sidious had Maul and allowed it because they used him as an assassin.
Honestly the Sith are the bad guys and Sidious does whatever he can to get the upper hand and win. Odds are during AotC and RotS Maul is still alive because he didn't die in the Clone Wars show. We'll see him again later I bet.
It's a lot like how there are more Jews than white people but Jews have more power because they successfully infiltrated key spheres of power/control and convinced people they're normal.
>>62895645
>one master
>one apprentice
>the master turns the apprentice into another master
>now there are two masters, free to take on two apprentices
rinse, repeat
>>62895645
if a cup of poison is diluited into thousands of goblets, it looses its potency
the fewer cups that it is in, the deadlier the poison is
or that is how bane would have you believe the dark side works
>>62900754
BANE?
So, explain to me, why the canonical events points out the following:
>Sheev is Dooku's Master
>Dooku trains Asajj and Grievous
>4 siths (one is more like a droid with blades but he received training directly from Dooku)
>Maul came back from the grave
>Maul trained Savage Opress
>6 Siths total
and back when it was still considered canon:
>Sheev got Vader as an apprentice
>Vader trained Starkiller
>3 Siths
Because fuck the rules
>>62896150
>Qui-Gon see a dark side user with a red lightsaber
>instantly reports it's a Sith
Face it, Rule of Two is retarded bullshit. Almost everything from EU and PT is retarded bullshit.
Prophecy makes no fucking sense either.
>>62902634
Erryone thought Maul was dead. Bringing him back was dumb af. Anyway Grievous isn't considered a Sith, just a cyborg that can use lightsabers well, but no Force powers. Asajj, neo-Maul, and Savage would be considered "Sith Acolytes" or angry, angsty Force-users who follow Sith doctrine but aren't allowed to know the full details and knowledge, mainly getting bossed around by the big guys. The point about Starkiller is valid, basically how the Rule of Two works is that the apprentice learns from his master, then secretly passes his knowledge to his own apprentice so they can work together to overthrow the master and move up in the world.
>>62896502
>EU
Kill yourself. The Clone Wars shit is canon, dicklipped faggot.
>>62896155
no he isn't
>>62895645
Why is Yoda dealing in absolutes?
>>62902634
>Sheev is Dooku's Master
Yes, this works.
>Dooku trains Asajj and Grievous
Yes, he was training Asajj, true. But as we know, this went tits up and Asajj bailed, leaving Sheev and Dooku, again. Grievous wasn't a Sith.
>Maul trained Savage Opress
And the two of them tried to take down Dooku and Sheev and failed, yes.
I think the quote works better if you look at it as:
>"The Sith are at their strongest when there are only two: A master and an apprentice."
The Clone Wars were kinda a boondoggle for Palpatine due to Dooku being a shit, so he excised him and took on Vader and bam, they were at their strongest again.
The prequels are garbage and everything in them burnable trash.
The EU takes everything so fucking literally
>Always two there are, Master and Apprentice
>Yoda is just saying that if a Sith exists, he must either be a teacher or someone who was taught
>EU says THERE ARE LITERALLY ONLY TWO SITH AT ANY ONE TIME AND NO MORE
Kind of like how the Kessel Run was literally turned into a contest of getting around black holes in the shortest distance because George Lucas didn't know what a parsec was, and the Old Republic was literally 25,000 years old because Obi Wan was being hyperbolic when he said the Jedi existed for a "thousand generations"
>>62896940
> actually considering that show as canon, even though it may officially be
>>62896047
they can train and judge as many people as they want, but from all their trainees and applicants, they take one apprentice who they want/expect to replace them
if they had to practice apprentice fidelity, the chain would be broken the second a single retarded overeager angry sith got his ass killed by being a dumbass
its like passing on a job, you pick the best one for the role, regardless of how many eligible applicants there are. masters obviously need to get to know their applicants and see how eligible they are before one becomes an apprentice. its not like sith just fill out a resume
its why vader has a bunch of retarded apprentices in eu or the games, he's still not a master, he cant pick just one to succeed him yet
The prequels aren't cannon
>>62896047
Oppress and Ventress weren't true Sith any more than Kylo Ren is.
Dooku probably didn't become a Sith until after Maul died.
I really believe that that shit didnt just apply to the sith, it also applied to the jedis
I mean in phantom menace you had Qui-gon and Obi wan, Master and Apprentice, in 2 and 3 you had Obi-wan and Anakin, Master and apprentice.
I think it literally just mean that you dont send a jedi/sith alone on an operation/mission, you always have 2, an example would be in Menace where Maul was believed to be the main villain only to find out that there was another guy pulling the strings
So is sith just a title? What would be the difference between, say, sith dooku and pre-sith dooku?
