What went wrong?
>>62886119
your judgement
>>62886119
Didn't show if the cat survived the base explosion
>>62886119
IT WAS ME JAMES
IT WAS ALL ME
Everything went to shit when Christoph Waltz revealed that he was, in fact, the author of the famous novel All Your Pain
nothing
literally nothing
I didn't actually see the movie
Mendes and whoever gave him the franchise and didn't take it from him after Shitefall
They forgot Skyfall was a big piece of shit and did it again.
>>62886119
>Daniel Craig looks like he doesn't give a shit in literally any scene.
>Without the Bond name it would just be another shitty action movie.
>The scene whenhe throws the explosive watchwas ridiculous becausevillain could have just put guards anywhere near James to ensure victory but instead has them where they can't see his hands.
>>62886119
That the fact the a pistol could bring down a helicopter as far as football pitch away and the fact that it could completely destroy a secret base.
Waltz. His character was terrible.
Wasn't menacing and had no definable traits.
Batista looked better in the movie, even though they dubbed over his one line for no reason.
>>62886969
He used an assault rifle to destroy the base but yeah that scene puzzles me almost as much as how he crashed that plane in QoS, though I later looked back at it and it was a combination of obscuring the pilot's vision and trapping him in the slipstream so he was unable to evade the mountainside.
It was bullshit, but it was Bond.
>>62886998
>Batista looked better in the movie, even though they dubbed over his one line for no reason.
isn't that just usual post production stuff, with the noise of the train and what not they'd have to dub it over, they talked about similar stuff in Fury Road, with all the engine noises and such the actors would have to go back into the studio to re-record dialog
>>62887065
Movies typical re-record dialogue no matter what. Like Furious 7, you can tell they couldn't re-record Walkers lines and there was noticeable noise.
For this though, he clearly was saying "shit".
>>62886169
I don't think this will stick.
KEKOO will
>>62886119
it's shit
>>62887132
I thought he said 'shoot'? I thought it was a funny thing how this dangerous enforcer type didn't swear
>>62886119
It was a pretty good movie without any Emo shit at all. Maybe that's what you're missing, Dieter.
>>62887233
Yeah, that's what I mean. What he was saying and what was actually heard didn't match.
I'm guessing it was a last second change to avoid profanity in the franchise, though surely there's an instance where someone curses in a Bond film prior to this.
>>62886969
The Transporter could easily do this.
It wasted a potentially amazing villain and the return of Spectre after 40 years
>>62887265
At a PG-13 rating I think you're allowed at least 3 fucks,with numerous shit and ass
>>62886119
>manlet bond
>no one liners
>no Martin Campbell
>nigger moneypenny
>no classic bond misogyny
>le quirky q
>teal and orange filters
>austin powers tier plot
>worst theme in the entire series
>>62887375
>>nigger moneypenny
You've had 3 fucking movies to get over this, LET IT GO
>>no one liners
"Well now we know what the C stands for"
"Owch"
>no classic bond misogyny
He fucks the wife of a man he killed not 2 days ago, what the fuck are you talking about!
>what went wrong?
not enough Lea
>>62887462
Her ass in that one dress was divine
>>62886119
SPOILERS INCOMING
1. the whole helicopter-in-mexico scene, as if someone could fly a helicopter for almost 10 minutes in a huge city with a festival with thousands of people outside, dont they have military response time in mexico?
2. so he gets tortured with those super mechanic and precise needles that should make him blind, lose balance and make him forget peoples faces, but even after 2 of those needles hes still able to kill literally 100 of men with a gun after aditionally an explosion happend 2 meters away from him
3. the worst villain ever, so christoph was the most criminal supermind so bad, the villains of the last 3 movies were just his fodder, and his only goal was to what? kill women james bond fucked? and wait years to just torture him?? what???
4. the reason for this bullshit was that his daddy liked james bond more than him
5. you can capture someone in the mi6 building the night it blows up and theres nobody anywhere near to secure the building so nobody enters it, james bond just ran into the building as if it was abandoned
>>62887932
It's amazing how you're simultaneously tearing apart a fucking BOND movie for not making sense (almost none of them hold up to much scrutiny m8) and half of your reasons imply you just weren't paying attention or don't know what you're talking about.
>>62886497
Its like youve never seen a Bond film. James survives by luck and pure coincidence every time.
>>62888804
>James survives by luck and pure coincidence every time.
Well that and inept villains who don't just kill Bond and instead tell him their plans.
>>62886185
And the writer of the song "Everything that goes wrong with the women in your life"
>>62886969
>Magic Bullet.
not black enough
>>62886119
The flower in his suit was far too big and this ruined the movie for me
>>62886497
>The villain could have easily stopped and killed bond
Is this your first bond movie?
>>62886497
>craig
>bond
>>62888804
>>62889000
Bond is mostly a master escape artist with top tier charisma and a spotter. Once he scopes out the enemy's lair through some measure of skill or luck, he calls down the hammer and destroys the enemy cell. If he is unable to, he has to improvise using unconventional warfare - usually utilizing his years of military experience and his relationship building.
He was the ideal super spy not because he was a master assassin, but because he was a tactically flexible forward thinker. He can turn any surprise attack into a level playing field, use his enemy's strengths and expectations against him, and make the most out of his resources to reach the best outcome. He wasn't smart in that he was a MacGuyver tier genius, but in that he was the model for someone who is expected to deal with a rapidly evolving situation.
In comparison, Craig's Bond is a 2nd rate gun hero. Either he shoots stuff ant it dies or explodes, or he fucks up and gets fucked up until something coincidentally saves him from getting fucked to death. (Admittedly there are rare moments where he outwits his enemies, but on average they're yawnworthy.)
>>62886119He died in the chair, that's why he has a happy ending
>>62886169
The librarian of all ya sorrow
>>62887375
>manlet bond
Lol you think a lanket can hide around fit into a sports car effectively?
>nigger moneypenny
Fuck you shes cool
>>62887417
>disrespecting a man so hard you seduce and bang his spouse even after you've already killed him
That's misandry, idiot.
>>62886154
got me
>>62890570
The director of your tragedy.
>>62890835
The chef of your spaghetti.
>>62890850
The stitcher of this your straight-jacket.
>>62886119
>no parkour
>no Bond being a cheeky bastard
>no Bond with amazing clothes
>no young beutiful womans
>no Dench
>no supervillian doing amazing things
Fuck that thing with C if I wanted see an asshole boss I would be working fuck that also
too many air scenes, there was three scenes with a helicopter and one with a plane IRC.
>>62888597
I didn't see anything wrong with the reasons he posted.
>>62886969
>the fact that it could completely destroy a secret base with a gun.
Yeah what the fuck was that?
We only see that he shoot some kind of valve and then everything goes to shit.
All the references and them piggybacking off of Casino Royale ruined this one for me. cheap bastards.
>>62890570
Look at that fucking FACE. JUST LOOK AT IT. Its like its begging to become a meme
>>62886119
You can tell from the poster just how much he hates everything that has to do with Bond
>>62890570
The doctor of ya booboos
>>62891622
the architect of all your anguish
Not enough Monica for me. I felt cheated.
Lea was great (dat ass) but still...
>>62886119
bootstrapping 3 previous movies in the last 20 minutes of the 4th one
>>62887318
A decade ago it was one fuck, no cunts, and unlimited everything else
First part was insanely good and had a lot of promise. Beautifully shot, humour, familiar tropes, great production value. Then new writers stepped in, adding two weakly connected plots and trying to avert old tropes to amuse the fan base. Austin Powers twist kicks in with the third part and it all goes to shit. The finale is straight awful and absurd even for a Bond movie, and Waltz is not even entertaining enough to match Lee in TMWGG
>>62886119
Poor direction and vision thanks to a divided Production crew and cast; one part of the creative talent wanted to keep the stripped down, cold hearted Bond elements that Craig had introduced to the franchise, and the other part of the crew wanted the old Bond elements back, so this time around we got more gadgets, henchmen and sillyness mixed awkwardly with the cold and bourne-like elements Craig introduced to the series. The problem with this, is that it makes for a poorly focused and split movie that doesn't know what it wants to be.
The script was very lazily written, and was scrambled with rewrites done at the last minute, confirmed by the Sony hack of emails. If you have a shit script, you're gonna have a shit movie.
The main theme song is gay and whiny as fuck.
Unrealistic love interest development, Bond is supposedly able to seduce Monica in like a minute and fuck her. Then later in the movie when Blofeld is torturing Bond, Lea Seydoux, who only knows Bond for a few days, says she loves him. Fucking kek, whoever approved the script doesn't know reality or how to write either, besides the writer(s) who gave us that shit.
Christoph Waltz is barely used, despite having good talent, and it is worse how he's hardly used because this whole movie sets up how he fucked up Bond's life for the past 3 movies (of course, this wasn't the original case, because we know that the producers didn't have the legal rights to include any Spectre or Blofeld elements until after Skyfall. It was also executed poorly in the film, in regards to how the last 3 films connected Spectre and Blofeld to Bond. Pathetic.
300 million dollars, jesus fucking christ, how the fuck could this mediocrity be worth that much? The money would've went better off donated to charity, maybe for skin cancer considering how bad Daniel Craig's skin looks.
The Producers just don't know what they're doing. That's the bottom line.
Nothing.
>>62892450
They really need to just ignore the Craig era completely as a fucking embarrassment and go back to classic Bond stories and plots.
>>62888597
>half of your reasons imply you just weren't paying attention or don't know what you're talking about.
Enlighten us then.
>>62892500
What we need is another Goldeneye. A film that blends classic Bond with modern: A strong story, great villain with a great plan and lair, iconic yet realistic henchmen, beautiful Bond women, thrilling action sequences that aren't over the top, exciting catchy soundtrack, strong character depth, gadgets but used sparingly in a grounded and realistic way, and,
Bond himself;
At least a 6 foot tall handsome man with dark hair, none of this blonde manlet bullshit.
>>62892838
Couldn't agree more. Really hoping for this.
>>62892838
gonna watch goldeneye right now because of this post
Skyfall was too good
we expected too much
>>62892890
>Skyfall
>Good, used in any sentence to describe it
I had a dream last night that I was watching movies with this asian girl and some other person whom I never recall seeing, but we were watching James Bond movies and I was up next to pick the next one. The only thing is I just know the names so I was picking up a bunch of boxes with just the titles on there and talking about which ones were good. I've never seen a full James Bond movie in my life.
>took Bond out of a rut with GoldenEye
>took Bond out of a rut again with Casino Royale
Seriously, this guy is criminally underrated. Fuck Mendes.
>>62886119
Overall I liked it. Still and since you asked, op...
>no discernible Barry. The gunbarrel music was a David Arnold arrangement if I recall correctly. This means Thomas Newman never bothered with the Bond theme for fuck's sake. Just the usual incidental music crap. No themes, no motifs. They let Monty Norman win ffs.
>some inexplicable shit such as Bond attacking the copter pilot for no reason and the casual attitude towards irreversible brain damage. It's explicitly stated that it's a death trap, Bond does not avoid it (for the first time in the series!) and then it's as if this never happened.
>too many nods to previous movies
>Blofeld was unnecessarily related to Bond and his evil empire was needlessly behind Skyfall. CR and QOS I get, they were designed to work within SPECTRE, but Chigurh was better left alone, as an unlucky and twisted version of Bond.
>>62886119
Bond wasn't black
>>62893141
>Blofeld was unnecessarily related to Bond and his evil empire was needlessly behind Skyfall. CR and QOS I get, they were designed to work within SPECTRE, but Chigurh was better left alone, as an unlucky and twisted version of Bond.
I agree, there's too much of this "cinematic universe" shit now Marvel made it profitable.
QOS was meant to be SPECTRE but they didn't have the rights yet. Could have been a great film if not for the Writers Strike meaning Craig had to write some of it himself.
>>62890202
Jesus christ, this fucking image again.
>>62893409
>Craig had to write some of it himself.
That explains quite a lot.
There's something about Bond that makes you forget the actor is just an actor. Like Connery, sure he had other roles, but you can imagine him in his tux, on his 70s private jet between Vegas and London. Same for Moore.
But Craig, no. Apparently he goes to the pub in London and is a bit of a cunt. I know he's a gritty Bourne-Bond for the new age, but he has none of that beleviability.
>>62893500
>But Craig, no. Apparently he goes to the pub in London and is a bit of a cunt
He does come across as a moody guy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2293617/Rachel-Weisz-plays-peacemaker-Daniel-Craig-gives-camera-wielding-fan-riot-act.html
>Rachel Weisz was forced to intervene after her 007 star husband, Daniel Craig threatened a fan who took their picture.
>New reports allege that Craig was angered when he caught the onlooker surreptitiously snapping them at the grocery store in New York.
>Daniel is said to have shouted: 'Is watching me food shopping with my wife all that interesting to you?'
>According to Britain's Daily Star the Bond star allegedly grabbed the man's phone.
But Rachel is said to have stepped in to calm him down and give the fan 'a stern but polite lecture on privacy,'
>Rachel then told Daniel to give the phone back to the stranger.The Skyfall star did as he was told and handed the device back, but not before ordering the man to delete any pictures he had taken of the couple.
>>62893607
nah I can respect that. Bit rude but he was within his rights.
Bit drunk but in the mood for some Bond lads.
Which are genuinely good films, Bond name aside?
GoldenEye, From Russia with Love? Saw Goldfinger a few weeks back so that's out.
>>62893767
Watch Goldeneye, to see how a modern Bond film is properly done. I have to watch it now to wash the awful after taste from Spectre.
>>62893767
tomorrow never dies is underrated,
its the real steve jobs movie
>>62886119
that poster for sure jesus christ
>>62890570
The buddha of allya botheration, the vizier of allya vexation, the guru of allya gloom, the architect of allya agony, the master of allya misery, the tailor of allya tribulation.
It was all me, James.
>>62893797
I watched the opening and credits sequence the other night but fell asleep shortly afterwards (it was late). But man, GoldenEye really is a perfect Bond film. A great way to reintroduce the character in the 90's and a new actor and all that good shit. Martin Campbell really is one of the finest Bond director's.
Which one has the super-modern Royal Navy catamaran ship and the bad guy that looks like Sven Goran Ericsson?
>>62887375
>>62893074
>>62893885
We need a draft Martin Campbell campaign to make the next Bond film, and every film after that until the day he dies. Get a truckload of cash and put it at his doorstep.
Introducing Q and Moneypenney ruined the Craig films.
>>62893938
I really wish he would've stayed on as director after Casino Royale. That would've been the best thing ever for the Craig era personally.
>>62893885
>Goldeneye is anything but average at best
Is this a dank meme or is it just 90's kids elevating a mediocre movie because of the video game? Either way it needs to stop.
>>62894101
Actually, people who dislike Goldeneye are contrarian, tasteless and a decided minority.
>>62893987
Q is great though, cunt.
>>62893767
From Russia and Casino Royale are must watches.
Who had this? I know GoldenEye N64 was GOAT, but man this was better than some of the films. Going to Germanic castles for parties hosted by the bad guy, car chase levels, sneaking through Tokyo skyscrapers, that opening mission with the sniper rifle in a helicopter. Gadgets galore too.
>>62894141
>Brosnan not comfortable on the role yet and it shows
>Trevelyan is an extremely run of the mill Bond villain elevated only by Sean Bean's performance
>The rogue MI6 agent storyline has absolutely no impact on anything, and Trevelyan's past with Bond seems like an afterthought that never matters one way or the other
>Forgettable Bond girl that couldn't act
>Forgettable plot that feels like a leftover script from the Dalton era
>The score is literal trash
It's not bad, but it's not the masterpiece Reddit likes to think it is.
>>62894293
Fuck. Nightfire.
Even had a nice opening track too. And the Multiplayer was nearly GodenEye-tier.
>>62887285
Get your Bond timeline straight. The Craig movies take place before the old ones and now we know how Ernst Stavro Blofeld got his scar.
>>62887932
The Mi6 building wasn't supposed to blow up that night. Maybe it was a bit too easy to acces s with all the explosives and all
>>62892497
yes
>>62893767
Diamonds Are Forever
>>62893919
Tomorrow Never Dies
>>62894363
>dat Tokyo stealth mission
Fuck that was great.
>>62894454
>Get your Bond timeline straight. The Craig movies take place before the old ones and now we know how Ernst Stavro Blofeld got his scar.
>The Craig movies take place before the old ones
>>62894454
>The Craig movies take place before the old ones
lol no, is that what the producers want you to think? Casino Royale was a complete reboot of the series, a brand new timeline where the Connery to Brosnan film events never took place.
>>62894454
The MI6 building being abandoned and blown up and taken over is laughable, considering the security and people who work there.
>No
>What a shit film. DAF is one of the worst Bonds. Cheesy fat and over the hill Bond.
>>62894454
Another shit film.
>>62894512
>Tomorrow Never Dies
>Shit
You having a giggle there m8?
>>62894462
Yeah, just thinking about it got be nostalagic.
The underwater mission in the Aston Martin with the sub.
Mayhew the triple agent or whatever, and you track him down to a traditional japanese house and fight the ninja.
Or that whole driving mission to get to the base in an SUV with missiles and shit.
Damn, I forgot how good it was.
>>62894546
That whole campaign was really good. Damn, I wish I had my PS2
Somebody spoil this movie for me, I'm not going to see it until it's out on dvd.
>>62894705
Austin Powers: Goldmember + muh grit, muh realism
>>62894705
Skyfall part 2: Electric Blofeldoo.
>>62894734
Is there yet another submarine in a Bond movie?
The reboot of james bond is utter shit , it's not original like the classic movies. The realistic shit makes it boring,
>>62894766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xGyaQZfR_Q
>>62886223
We have a winner. 09's confirm
>>62894764
I fucking wish
Did Blowfeel pick his guards solely on having shit aim?
>>62886119
there was an unprecedented amount of advertising on the basis of nothing for this movie.
Completely unrelated commercials of all sorts, only to end with "SPECTRE IN THEATRES SOON"
I've never seen anything like it.
As far as I remember, there was a nike commercial, a vodka commercial, at least 3 different car commercials, and probably a few i dont recall.
They didn't even have footage of the film, it was fucking ridiculous.
>>62894800
If Zombie Simpsons hates it then it's probably good.
I wasn't really following the story, but why did Bond just show up at the bad guys base?
has there any been nudity in these stupid movies?
>>62888597
What are you tlaking about? those are all legit reason why this movie sucked. ESPECIALLY the precise needle. that was fucking dumb.
and jesus christ could you underutilize Christoph Waltz as a villain any more? >>62887932 is right, "I want to kill bond because my dad liked him more'". LITERALLY FUCK OFF with this pleb logic bullshit.
Fuck. this movie was a mess. the first half was fun but goddamn was this a fucking mess.
>>62887375
>no one liners
>forgetting about Bloefeld's enjoyable cheesy lines
That's the thing with brothers. We always know how to press each other's buttons.
The opening was really good. The Day of the Dead setting and Bond walking across the rooftops with the drums playing was cool as fuck. Then it got to the title sequence and it was all downhill.
>>62894903
Yes in the credits sequences, except its always shadowed. You'll see a silhouette of a nipple and some ass with edited out vagina but that's it. Still, if you watched every opening you'd probably get a boner. I haven't yet fapped to James Bond openings actually, should try it.
What was Drax the Destroyer's last line?
>>62894839
Even my mom called it, no one tries that hard to shill something without actually showing it unless they have zero confidence in its quality.
>>62895110
What I hated was the obvious CGI in the distance.
And the intro was very good, but the Mexican government wouldn't let them get tax breaks unless it was 100% positive about Mexico, hence why everyone looks smart and clean as fuck when that's just not the reality.
>>62891847
That was creepy to me. I felt like Bond just went to a funeral took some really vulnerable woman and kind of date raped her a little... didn't seem right.
>>62895259
>taking advantage of emotionally compromised, but totally consenting people is now date rape
Don't you have exams to be studying for?
>>62893767
The Man With The Golden Gun
Actually... this is weird but I just realized that every Bond movie with 'gold' in the title is GOAT.
They should make the next gold related because its weird that Craig wouldn't get a golden titled film yet. Should be like GoldTrigger and be a reimagining of Golden Gun.
>>62895151
Oh, shit.
>>62895304
I know it wasn't really rape that's why I said only a *little* rapey but yeah not truly rape at all. Its predatory though.
There were lots of little things and a few big things. They let bond keep the watch? This is spectre, who knows everything already. The whole they'll shut us down thing, straight from the last mission impossible. It felt like Bond was playing in god mode, the thing I loved about Casuno Royale was that briefly, Bond seemed mortal. The cinematography in the last few movies has been so fucking amazing, this seemed shit at times. He get holes drilled into his brain but can still fire? Again, in Casino Royale he really suffered at times (except that idiotic defibrillator sequence). It seemed like they wanted to wrap up the ending, why not leave it open? I get spectre==evil, but tell us why. What's the plan. It made it seem like spectre is /b/ with guns, doing shit for keks.
>>62895473
The Gold Man, Goldman, and His Gilded Gold
Best possible James Bond?
>>62886119
Things that I didn't like.
>Blowfeld was somehow related to James Bond. Why did they have to add that?
> The last scene where Bond walks through the old MI6 and all the pictures of people from his past are posted up.
>007 program being disbanded but with no impact aside from a farewell party
> No Spectre Agents vs 00 agents.
>>62894355
>Not mentioning action and setpieces
>Hating music
>Not mentioning the direction
Also
>Brosnan not comfortable on the role yet and it shows
It was his best perfomance as Bond.
>Forgettable Bond girl that couldn't act
False.
>>62886119
Titling it "Spectre" and building up the hype for Bond fans who were expecting the greatest plot of all time, only for for it to turn out as unforgettable QoS-tier shit.
>>62895473
Skyfall actually reused the aspect of tracking an assassin who uses unique ammo like Scaramanga.
why the fuck did bond fall for another girl after vesper?
>>62896518
I enjoyed it, I'm glad they did a goofy bond movie with Craig before switching him out. Girl was a qt, and quirky subordinate boss were great. I don't even mind all the previous villains being agents of Spectre, Quantum flunkies were already Spectre-lite and even saying Spectre was the one bank-rolling a turned MI-6's revenge plot is still believable if pushing it.
But what I do mind is the last act is just all over the place, I'm blofeld, woops the evil base all self-destructed for no apparent reason, stupid shenanigans in London, woops blofeld still alive, bond girl is in a pinch, but for some reason it's completely possible for Bond to save her and there's an exit path laid out (this one really boggled me, I expected some HAH it was all part of my plan to let you escape but nothing), then Bond shoots a helicopter with a handgun and defeats Blofeld and it just sort of ends. All of that in like the last 30 minutes of the movie.
>>62896781
Read On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
>>62891193
Growing up, I always thought that was a camera shutter, not the inside of a gun barrel.
Camera shutter still makes more sense to me.
>>62894363
I liked Everything Or Nothing too.
>>62886119
People realized that bond is a very one-dimensional character. It's like thinking the last indiana jones ruined the franchise. They were all terrible.
>>62887932
Alright since the three of you
>>62891123
>>62892657
>>62894980
seem so convinced that this poster was right I'll tear his bullshit apart.
1. Not a big issue, but technically you're right, it would make sense if the military responded but it's a fucking Bond movie remember? I still can't believe you guys are looking into it this much. Do you guys even enjoy the series? I have to assume not. But whatever.
2. I agree with this completely actually and I was thinking the same thing. The scene was a huge let down and way too rushed. He kills like 5 guards and that's it? Weak.
3. Here's where your argument gets weak.
>the villains of the last 3 movies were just his fodder
Well it's implied they work for his organization yes... but does that somehow demean their impact or something? For starters this is how the series originally worked, Dr. No, FRWL and Thunderball all had main villains who worked for Blofeld, so what? I fail to see an issue with this.
> and his only goal was to what? kill women james bond fucked? and wait years to just torture him?? what???
You can't be serious. You actually think Blofeld's plan was to fuck with Bond at all? It's made very clear that Bond being mixed up with Spectre is a pure coincidence. You really need to pay more attention. What you're saying is you watched this movie thinking everything that has happened to Craig's Bond the last three movies was purely because Blofeld wanted to get revenge. Seriously man... just no.
4. Once again, that's not the reason. Yeah Blofeld makes it clear he hates James and had daddy issues over him when he was younger, and also implies that's what got him started in going down a criminal path. But it's got nothing to do with Spectre as a whole or his plans for the organization. Bond just happens to be the agent who stumbles onto them and Blofeld decides to make the best of the occasion by torturing Bond.
5. The building WAS abandoned. Did you even watch the movie?
>>62898846
>it's just le bond movie guize chill out
>types novel defending it
Autism much?
I only saw QOS so it's all up from there.
>>62894705
Return to more Bond cliches of old and stupid jokes mixed with the grittier aspects of the Craig movies.
Blofeld is villain and Bond's former foster "brother"
Bond dates Mr. White's daughter
Blofeld arrested at the end and Bond and girl drive off happily.
>>62898993
Watched QoS without seeing CR?
Kek
>>62891232
the editor of your irritation
>>62890202
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>>62886119
>worst girl (at least the writing)
>worst villian (s?)
>nerdy Q having a role other than handing Bond a gadget
>none of the casual audience ever had any idea who Mr White was
Starting bit was bretty cool, went to shit after that. Good meme potential tho.
>>62896871
He actually has one more in his contract, though I think he's gonna pay all the money he made to get out of it.
>>62892838
/thread
>>62886119
The film has some of the shittiest villans in the series
We're supposed to be scared of Blofeld and think he's some genius schemer but he and his organisation fail in literally everything they set out to accomplish;
They don’t blow up the stadium
They don’t get to Mr White
They let Bond easily infiltrate their secret meeting
They let Bond beat them to Dr Swann
They let Bond easily win/escape on multiple occasions
They let Bond blow up their base
Their shitty master plan is easily sabotaged
The scene in the Spectre meeting, where they're discussing their routine business like human trafficking is way more interesting than their dumb surveillance superplot, it's a shame the tone of the movie isn't more like that throughout. In the first half of the movie they build up Spectre as a cool Illuminati esque organisation, but after that it’s just Blofeld and his army of mooks, they don’t do anything interesting with the concept of a worldwide crime syndicate.
C sucks, his whole plotline with M feels detached to what Bond is doing but then suddenly becomes the entire focus of the last third of the movie. He's barely even a character and his entire motivation is apparently just "secret Blofeld protege". There’s nothing in the film to make us see what’s at stake with Spectre’s big surveillance plan. Why does it matter it matter if they succeed and all the countries sign up? They already have cameras in fucking MI6 headquarters, what more do they need?
Blofelds “Long lost Brother” backstory falls flat, the way they try and make him behind everything that happened in the other movies falls flat, just because he dresses the same as a classic villan and has the same scar doesn't mean you can just neglect to make him threatening in any way.
The one decent villan is Bautista, who makes a great heavy, but his death is anticlimatic and comes too early, so they even fucked that up
>>62899512
The global surveillance program would've been a good plot point any time Pre NSA.
>>62895624
>No Spectre Agents vs 00 agents.
This brings up a point in my mind. The girls in this movie SUCKED. Would it have been so hard to have a sexy Italian Spectre agent hunting down Bond?
>>62899512
>The one decent villan is Bautista, who makes a great heavy, but his death is anticlimatic and comes too early, so they even fucked that up
I wish they gave him a touch more exposition as far as how he finds Bond and gets things done. The scariest heavies are the ones that are clever. At least his death was a touch ambiguous so they can bring him back right?
>>62887932
>1 or 2 memorable scenes
>the best thing about this movie is the imax poster
>how many times did bond say..
>"i told your father i'd protect you"
>never a sense of police presence or civilians
>sound effects were shit
>no pro-choice bond moments with pro-choice bond sound licks
>waltz could of been the best bond villain ever
>instead he in the film for ten minutes and in 3 different scenes ultimately
>DADDY ISSUES (???????)
>zero style. no substance in clothing, gadgets, tricks
>the movie felt like two separate bond films being remixed together
>300 million dollars wasted, used on other things than this movie
>hey dad give me the car
>end film
i paid good money to see this shit at the imax and i left with my ears bleeding and a huge headache. the whole story was boring and only slightly better than quantun of solance
>>62886119
Who else /underwhelmed/? It's not a bad movie, it's well-made and all, but the story was crap and there was nothing spectacular in the action scenes. I liked the Bond girl, the song intro was good, Monica Bellucci was cool, my favorite part was probably the fight on the train, some cool bare-knuckles action (reminded me of From Russia). Outside of this, I didn't find anything particularly impressive. I paid my ticket half because I wanted to see Christoph Waltz and I only got MAYBE fifteen minutes of him out of this movie at the very end. He gives a good performance but again he's only there for such a short time,but it was kind of cool to find out he was Blofeld through.
No one wanted to be there
Waltz looked more engaged during Green Hornet
Sony is at fault 100% here, also Sam Mendes is not good at action
>>62895259
She wasn't vulnerable, though. She clearly said she had fallen out of love with Sciarra and only stoof with him out of fear.
Also:
>Can't you see that I'm grieving?
>No.
I liked the bit whenBond shoots the bullet-proof glass and the spectre motiff forms from the impact.
It was silly but cool.
>>62903086
>It was silly but cool.
exactly what bond should be imho
Why was Rogue Nation a wholly better spy flick?
The movie was long but the pacing was shit. He kept jumping around without any clues where to go next it seemed like. I still enjoyed it though.
>>62903389
Tom Cruise called the shots, as opposed to a committee of producers and executives with conflicting interests under the umbrella of the most retarded movie studio in Hollywood
>>62903389
It wasn't even close
>>62891193
>>62898662
I always thought it was a scope
>>62903718
It is objectively better as a spy flick, let alone everything else (except Bond girl, but Ethan Hunt didn't fuck a girl so it doesn't matter).
>>62903752
yeah not really at all
>>62896781
>Roald Dahl, a screenwriter of You Only Live Twice, said he was given a formula to work to for the film: "you put in three girls ... Girl number one is pro-Bond. She stays around roughly through the first reel of the picture. Then she is bumped off by the enemy, preferably in Bond's arms."[131] The next girl is anti-Bond and normally captures him, but Bond will save himself by using his charm and sexual potency: she is normally killed mid-way through the film. Girl number three will survive and end the film in Bond's embrace.[132]
